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Miley Cyrus vs Raven Symone debate is so stupid | Vlogmas Day 20

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As someone who grew up in church and believes in god, a lot of the most evil people are religious people and some of the most evil acts in history were committed by religious folk. All in the name of the lord; which I’m sure he does not co-sign 👀

NJK_Jinkies

I don’t think the Internet talk enough about how the Lizzie McGuire movie was essentially the blueprint for Hannah Montana

Stef

I get what you’re saying but Miley’s resume has been STACKED since she was like 12

Manna Steel

RIGHTTT SHE WAS WERKINNN

Manna Steel

OUUUUUU

Manna Steel

Kenya I can’t even drink water during the 2nd half of your rant I’m trying so hard not laugh at work 🤣 when you said huh?! That’s sent me, Instagram in general is a very low and dark place. The next app I’m working on deleting and not using ias much anymore

Ixa

miley is 4 years older than her so let’s see where zendaya is in 4 years. zendaya isn’t really a movie star yet tbh…she hasn’t really even been a lead for her own movie point blank, let alone one that’s been successful both in critical acclaim and box office numbers, closest is challengers but that has had no impact on the general public no shade. then there’s the fact that one is a movie star in the making and the other is a pop star, so those categories are real different and harder to compare. but zendaya don’t even got an oscar yet, she got her rue emmy’s which is fully deserved but she hasn’t taken enough roles in the past decade to warrant being the most successful person out of disney imho, so yeah it might be the gen z in you. miley had world tours when she was a teen, she’s had multiple number ones, she’s been apart of the public conscious for so long. if i was nasty i’d say flower was more successful than zendaya’s whole acting career…

risa kim

Idk how she did it! I love Ashley!! 💕

Dani

Please talk more about the Christians/religious folk PLEEEEEEAAAAASSSSSEEEE LOL…. I need this conversation…

Amber Jokinen

Someone once said..."Hell is gonna be filled with so many church folks that it won't be enough room for the SINNERS" 😆 and it sums up my thoughts on the behavior of church folks

Erica Dallas

Bruh I REMEMBER the Party in the USA Walmart commercial! I remember liking the song but thinking they were just using it for background and not anticipating how big it would aaaaactually become. Also...I'm a fantasy girl and I agree Selena Gomez CHEWED as Alex Russo...but Wizards was not my show at all. I see why the other girlies loved it but it just wasn't for me.

Lilac S.

I see where you're coming from but I'm not sure I agree. Miley is literally the face of Gucci right now, has Grammys, is on a song with Beyoncé, has sold millions* of records, and still acts til this day (i.e. Black Mirror, Guardians of the Galaxy), all while being the biggest Disney darling at her time. Zendaya is hella successful, but it's not giving legend (at least not yet), whereas Miley holds that title.

Lilac S.

"Kyla Pratt was singing, Goddammit." NOT THE CIRCLE OF LIFE REFERENCE. 😂 Raven was my faavvvv Disney Channel girl, but anyone who grew up in that era who says they don't remember the moment they saw those Hannah Montana concerts that played BEFORE THE SHOW EVEN AIRED is lying. "Who Says" was already my song. It only added to me wanting to see the show. Disney knew how to market for real by then.

Lilac S.

No I strongly agree. Wizards was huge and I will die on this hill. Especially unlink the other Disney shows it got better every seasons SORRY!

victoria

Idk about that but Zendaya on Disney was not huge. Miley was literally huge on Disney. And then during her rebellion shortly after she was still huge.

victoria

Id say what was happening with Miley Cyrus isn’t the same as what was happening with Selena Gomez. Miley was a huge star but Selena was a huge star as well it’s just different.

victoria

It was my 8th grade grad song!

Tee

the climb was my 5th grade graduation song

Brianna

honestly, ashley tisdale should be brought up more in the ex-Disney conversations bc she held down suite life, high school musical, phineas and ferb, AND her own music career all at once!!! her fame wasn't as long-lasting, but she deserves some credit too

rudi!!!

Yea when Raven was saying she’s not African American she definitely lost me

Issa Smith

no shade Zendaya is actually the most successful person to come out of disney not Miley Cyrus but maybe i’m just gen z.

Jayden Brown

nickolodeon tried to replicate the hannah montana print with big time rush. Like Hannah Montana was simply lightning in a bottle, 2006-2011 Disney was in its prime. And no shade Raven Symone old as hell girl you were born in the 80s. She was too old to still be a teen sensation in 2010 like get serious

Jayden Brown

Whatttt oh my gosh!?😲

Mariah Gardenhire

Yess for giving Hilary duff her flowers cuz I LOVED Lizzie McGuire I was in the Hilary duff bulletin boards online as a true fan 🙂‍↕️🙂‍↕️🙂‍↕️

Lavender1495

Miley was that girl I’m sorry like I wanted that Walmart collab BADDDDD 😭

Lavender1495

A lil too much Wizards slander in this comment section, it was a top 2 show

Vanessa Carlos

When I tell you I cackled my way through the last 13 minutes. That entire rant about bloggers and church folks was seriously unhinged, hilarious and honest.

Katorah Thomas

🖤🖤🖤🖤

TemTem

Baby I did not play about Hannah Montana!!!

Korli Bridges

Sounds like a Christian lol

Korli Bridges

Nah, WOWP was AMAZING. Alex Russo was that GIRL

Dani

This has to be my favorite one so far! 😆

Howlvin

I mean they was talking about trump was the best thing since sliced bread because of that $1,200 so it's not suprising they'd do that for $3,000

Dairus Wilson

So glad I’m not the only one surviving off of Threads morsels on IG 😭

Sara

I live with my god-fearing grandmother but i swear I can’t sleep in without something nasty about my name coming out her mouth or a single day pass with out somebody being judged and she always start and close her day with an hr of pray

Arie Tv

They were treating Meg miserably for 3 years for klarna installments. If I had known they was that cheap I could’ve donated a little something to save momma. 😞

Keith Primas

If I had to rank my favorite Disney shows it would go: 1. That’s So Raven 2. Hannah Montana 3. Proud Family 4. The Suite Life of Zack and Cody 5. Kim Possible *honorable mention* Phil of the Future

Keith Primas

so true!! backbiting has become so comfortable for people to do in public.

Rihab

Twitter’s more pretentious, but Instagram is dumber. You can tell they had IEPs.

Chris

You’re so right about that last topic!! As a south asian from a muslim family it is the same thing with us like you will encounter the most gossipy judgemental people preaching about god, then in the next breath saying something outright nasty, it’s nuts.

Ray

Christians love to play in their God’s face as if he can’t understand their true intentions.

Chris

linkedin lashings!!! i'm hea!

momo

Omg yes! That’s why she hates the song cause she never expected it to blow up! She didn’t even write it … Jessie J did 😂😂

Farai Bennett

I vividly remember being obsessed with Raven when I was very little, like 4/5 but baby when Hannah Montana stepped on the scene, word to wicked something CHANGED within me!

Taylor Haynes

Vlogmas almost coming to an end 💔💔

Taylor Haynes

SAME

Sabdiel 𐚁

Former pastor’s son here and I’ve never felt more free leaving the “church.”

Gabriel Benton

That makes sense. Lizzie was in her last season technically and that’s so raven was in its first. It needed time to build.

Gabriel Benton

Good thing I don’t believe in God or religion at all because people are nuts. I avoid black blogs the most because it’s nothing but a bunch of hypocrites who gossip and have Bible verses in their bios on instagram. Shit is crazy.

Tiara

Cause the people of the cloth do as they please then ask for forgiveness later, rince repeat. As long as they repented before death they are good in their mind.

Vic

I thought I was the only one that didnt like Wizards of waverly place. I didnt really get it. I thought it was boring lol.

Cosmic Orbit

Would love to hear your opinion on the Keke Palmer and lizzo pod episode

Javan

if you want to be fair we also have to recognize that that's so raven and lizzie aired alongside one another for a year at most... so yes, that's so raven did do well, but disney was more invested in hillary at the time and after they lost her because they could no longer afford her of course they invested in raven.

Montgomery Price

In regard to Hilary Duff. That’s a half truth. That’s so raven eventually eclipsed Lizzie in popularity and broke records for the Disney Channel. It just took more time for the show to take off. So we have to be fair here lol.

Gabriel Benton

Speaking of Cheeta girls I just relistened to you personality quiz podcast and it was hilarious 😂 we need a redo soon!

Vic

i had to delete instagram cuz the DUMBEST OF THE DUMBEST live there

diego

double dutch bus went platinum in my household tho

Nini

maybe it's because i just finished reading disney high not too long ago, but the gag is raven wasn't even bigger than hillary to the disney execs. the whole reason lizzie went to theaters was bc she was too big to be on the disney channel and if they hadn't been upset that hillary's agent was shopping cinderella story to other studios she might have stayed at disney. raven is a beloved figure, and key to building the disney channel into something that could launch the next batch of stars into the stratosphere... but she ain't close to eclipsing miley....

Montgomery Price

Party in the USA was a collab for Walmart!!? That song is EVERYTHING! I sung it at karaoke😭☺️

Mariah Gardenhire

Are people still fighting about this on the internet?

Gabriel Benton

Also never got the hype for wizards…

trojansailor

I really felt like Disney channel was relevant to the outside world during this time when I was in middle school, but right now I cannot imagine knowing anything or giving a fuck about tween shows as an adult.

trojansailor

i remember when that Hannah Montana meet Miley Cyrus cd DROPPED. she had a whole cardboard thing at Walmart for it. and i convinced my mom to buy it for me!!!!! i still have that same cd 😭😭

diego

“Nobody’s perfect is her espresso”😭😭😭

christian

HIIIII KENYA AND PATREON

diego


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