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Saturn V Line image (single shot)

Thanks for checking out this image.  Any ideas on what that line is!?

I'm a bit baffled.  And humbly summon the collective brain power of nerds everywhere.

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Saturn V Line image (single shot)

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Long of the Short, It simply Ladies and Gentleman is a cloud Nothing more. As on the moon the shape warps down on the left in 9738. And with the reflectivity of color it seems that is the most likely thing. I don't want to shoot myself with my first post, but if it was contrail with what online weather said about wind speed etc, it should have been jagged or Diffused I would think. I would guess it is Cirrostratus or Cirrus. And our Friends at Smarter Every Day Just happened to be at the right spot at the right time for wonderful Photography. BTW the second thing asked was, did it eventually move across your subject or change slightly left to right and it does. :) I would love it if I am wrong and it was a prismatic effect caused by the glass of the Lense on the light and that the tilted horizontal image was that color due to the lense of the light on the top... I love learning I hope this gets solved!

So I called Canon and said HEY! I know you, here check out this premises, and gave them the Verbal Data. They thought this was highly interesting and asked two very important questions. Both Canons were using L glass, but what was the G from Lumix using? That variable I didn't know. But I do know Canon at long distance with a prime Lense is Incredible for Fine Detail.

OK So being a very curious sort I tried to recreate this "illusion" But could not. I pushed a color corrected image to my TV, and used an LED as the base of this. Why? My suspicion had to do with Color Correction In Built to the Canon 60 70 80 D units. I own Canon D and Lumix / panasonic g Cameras as well. In my experiment I introduced Steam, Aerosol, And Just plane Smoke. But I wasn't able to ReProduce the Horizontal line at all.

Nope, he said he could see it through the lens too (all optical)

Since you've talked about rollin shutter so much, I wonder if that is a clue to the cause of the line. Could the camera be writing that line of the photo differently because it is changing a setting when it encounters the top of the rocket?

There are a fair number of opportunities for it to be a contrail. Check out this picture of jets in flight at about that time and at altitudes that could be seen a few degrees above horizon at hundreds of miles out. <a href="https://drive.google.com/open?id=144jkvQe-wCm0CzVGK0X-gZwiVk94be9R" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://drive.google.com/open?id=144jkvQe-wCm0CzVGK0X-gZwiVk94be9R</a>

I analysed photo 9731 - 9740 (adjusted contrast and brightness, aligned them to the rocket). Here you can see a very small brighter line below the "line" which exactly matches the hue of the moon light from the background. Also the distortion (air) of the object, matches more or less the distortion of the moon. Therefore my guess: This is a very thin cloud band. It got this very small light reflection on the bottom from the moonlight behind it. The reflection gets stronger if the light from the moon moves down (as in 9740). I assume this cloud band has to be very high in the atmosphere (or at least far away from the rocket), because the light seems to travel through all this air which caused the distortions on the line. Nice would be a photo from a slightly different angle for comparison.

The Moon makes first contact with the rocket in IMG_9723 and the silhouette is not visible. Then 7.11 seconds later you can see it in IMG_9724. It then fades from the right side. For this reason I'm going to guess it is a distant contrail.

Jayden Newstead

OK after looking more closely it cannot be a cable/line of any sort, since the silhouette doesn't extend onto the sky. It is also doesn't appear to be associated with the red light on the rocket since the silhouette is in photos where the red light is both on and off.

Jayden Newstead

he did say he checked and there are no cables or wires since you can drive up pretty close, im pretty sure its either an atmospheric, or mirage like issue, going back there and checking at other moonsets would be interesting but really hard to do what with the progression and cycles and other issues.

Adric Menning

There is a large power transmission line that runs east-west on the south side of the space and rocket center, this line seems a bit high, but could that be it? screenshot from map <a href="https://imgur.com/a/Dt4Fh" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://imgur.com/a/Dt4Fh</a>

Jayden Newstead

How about a wave interference pattern ? Notice how the line is stronger when the tip of the saturn five hits the bottom of the moon, and the line fades away the closer we get to the penumbra ? I think the very bright zone at the edge of the moon acts kinda like a laser beam (on these scales light-rays are mostly parallel right ?) and the tip of the Saturn V acts as the double slit, or like a string, and creates destructive interference pattern. You just happened to be located on one of the dark spots of the pattern, how about that ? By the way i love your videos, been watching them for yeaaaars, finally became a patron to show a little gratitude, thank you so much and keep doing what you love, cheers :D

It appears that is a static display (note the white light on top and the red/green lights on the main booster), so there is probably at least one gantry nearby and perhaps a second one also. That could be a stabilizing cable for high winds, or it could provide power for the lights as well as data monitoring from the missile itself. It may not be ready to launch, but it would still have some items of concern that they would like to keep track of. Or, if nothing else, that line is the seam of the opening in the bottom of the moon where alien craft enter and exit their secret base contained within!

Could it be an atmospheric thermocline? You’re saying how cold it is maybe you are seeing the barrier between the cold air and a warmer layer of air. When it is extreme you can see some crazy mirages. This would explain the line and how it could be at an angle. The rocket tip would just be a coincidence if this is correct.

It's the fishing line the model of the Saturn V is hanging from. HELLO!?

Robert Keiser

Is the Saturn V really tipped that much from the vertical, or it is vertical and the camera wasn't level?

Mario Nigrovic

Could it have anything to do with wind blowing over the top of the LES and vortex shedding, creating something like wingtip vortices on a plane fanning out on both sides? Perhaps not visible to the naked eye, but under the right conditions with the moonlight in the background they blocked enough light to become visible on camera.

That's no moon! :o (Sorry, couldn't resist!)

Is there some kind of mirror at the very top that would react with the light in the same fashion as a lighthouse? Or, since the light is on at the top, is it possible to have some destructive light interference? ( i know about sound interference so I guess that the same would be applicable to light) Or maybe a polarity thing... Ok I'll stop there, I'm just rambling. #notmyfieldofexpertiseasyoucansee

A stay cable holding the rocket in place against wind shear?

Mike Thomson

funniest comment from youtube: "That shadow of the Earth. Flat Earth confirmed 100%" haha on a more serious note: beats me, I've got nothing. but then again, I am a biologist, not a physicist...

Sergey Antopolskiy


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