RAW Saturn V Super Blue Blood Moon Photos

how hot is the filament/glass mount, in the bulb, in the housing? if its the split capsule hinged housing, wouldnt the image of the bulb above or below the housing hinge be the same bulb? ps - wasnt there a heavy head wind here too?

Light usually travels straight. The darker light, that we see as a shadow, comes from the moon and has missed the rocket tip by several meters on its way to the camera. So there is no way, it could have been influenced by the tip itself. Light from the tip that would have been diffracted, would not reach our camera. We only see the light from the tip, that went straight to us, this is, what we see as a tip. If light from the tip would (through any effect) cause an interference with the light from the moon (lets say, it was split by reflection, went lambda/2 and then left into the same direction, which is very difficult to reach, just by accident) we would simply see the tip a bit darker, nothing more. To create a line like that we would need a flat line-like (so that it disturbes only light in the shape of a line) optical lense between the rocket and the observer. Should be quite strong, because it would have to bend the light quite a bit. The change in diffraction index of air to reach that would be quite extreme. So we would need a flat layer of air with an extremely different temperature, that would not be very likely to be stable. I guess we also can neglect the chance of an gravitational lense ;-)

Stefan Schloesser

* It appears between 7023 and 7024 in only a few seconds. * It is (to what I see) at the first pictures neither a straight line (its bend slightly) nor exactly perpendicular to the tip. * Moonlight does not have the coherence to cause interferences (if not passed through a slit) * You cannot see interference phenomena in that direction. * The cameras on the second location did not see that effect (so its likely to be location specific) Yes, its not very likely that you hit a coincidence like that, but there is no "related" phenomenon, that we know of that could happen.

Stefan Schloesser

So, looking at Moon Shots (1 of 1) which appears to be the earlier full moon w/o eclipse, there is no line. This makes me think that the line cannot have been caused by the rocket/camera lens, it's the same rocket and (probably?) the same lens pointed at the same moon. Unless the eclipse somehow impacts the diffraction pattern of the rocket/lens? Obviously this means the flat earthers are right, the shadow of the earth on the moon is a flat line, wake up sheeple! Kidding! *shudders*

In 9736-9739 it appears to be centered horizontally on the tip. It remains centered vertically on the tip perfectly the entire time. It would be quite a coincidence for it to be an unrelated phenomenon.

A thermocline absolutely can appear as a shadow, think the lines in the sun right before some nature documentary narrates 'sunrise on the Serengeti'... So first off, a local meteorologist would know if there were inversion conditions that day, and might be able to help pin this down. If anyone could see it with just their eyes (ie not through the camera lense) it would help to eliminate something happening with the lense and mirror, but if you definitely could not, there may have beens some polarization weirdness (I will post more on this far out but not totally impossible idea below). Further if you could see it with your eyes, maybe you could tell if it 'moved' with the rocket. It's possible that in comparing different cameras you could determine this too, though with everything far away, that sounds unlikely. I have definitely seen serious atmospheric lensing before though, so my money would be on this.

Charles Bosse

My uneducated guess: some sort of light diffraction from the bulb housing on the tip of the Saturn V. Because you're shooting with a telescopic lens, you're noticing an otherwise slight effect. The "line" appears as the moon falls behind the lens and disappears when the darkened portion of the moon takes its place. This theory could be tested...

The alignment with the top of the rocket ist clearly coincidental. Its no optical/interference thing: * The line is not visible in 7023, but optically it should (the moon is already behind the rocket tip) * an interference would mimic the fourier transform of the light object (should be circular, if the tip was the source, but: The moon is the source and is too large to be a source for coherent light) * in that line of sight you would not see an interference pattern Moreover: * The line changes its shape. Its clearly bend upwards at the first images and seems to straighten up duing time. Also its microstructure (small bends up and down, density) seems to change from picture to picture. So its not the shadow of some more or less distant cable or so. I've never seen images of a thermocline. I do not think you could see one as a shadow. I would guess, it would more look like some distortion (like in cheap window glass), as it only is a change in the refraction index. Anyhow, I would guess, it is more straight, with clearer edges and it would not change its shape and density so much. So I guess, its a distant flat cloud, which might be flat due an inversion layer.

Stefan Schloesser

I think the alignment with the top of the rocket is coincidental. I think this is either a distant cloud, or perhaps layers of different air conditions causing atmospheric lensing.

Bracken

I can't work out how it could be a Shluren like effect, but something resulting from a variation in density/index of fraction doesn't sound out of the question. I also can't work out how you could get such a strange diffraction pattern, but that also doesn't seem completely out of the question. For now I'm stumped, but I'll definitely be chewing on this for the next few days. Thanks for the awesome video as always!

I really think this is a thermocline (the barrier between warm and cool air). It just makes sense to me. High vantage point, recent cold front, backlit by the moon- all sounds like perfect conditions to catch a thermocline on camera.

Might have something to do with the camera and the fact that the tip of the rocket has a light in it. Dunno...

After boosting the contrast on 9730, it looks as if the very left side of the line is slightly distorted downward by the atmosphere. If that's true, it may be a high altitude noctilucent cloud. Some info about them here: <a href="http://www.earthweek.com/2013/ew130809/ew130809x.html" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">http://www.earthweek.com/2013/ew130809/ew130809x.html</a>

so generous of you to share! thanks :)

Adam Wishneusky

It isn't in 9723 though, even though if you drew the line from the tip of the rocket, it should be there. Maybe it has something to do with the light of the moon shining through a certain part of the tip of the rocket. This is further supported by looking at 9735 onward; the line seems to fade as the moonlight passing through the "origin point" of the line on the rocket fades. Since the light on the top side of the moon fades more gradually than on the bottom edge, you can watch as the line fades.

Whatever it is, it seems to always present and even with the light at the top of the Saturn V. Flipping through images 9724 till about 9739ish, it is there and always horizontal from the tip. Very interesting...

Destin, thanks so much for sharing these. WOW!

Robert Keiser

The different perspektive is cool. We had a fullmoon in europe!

For sure.

DUDE! Thanks - looking forward to the video.

pat o.