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Added 2021-11-04 19:13:23 +0000 UTCHello All,
I still have about 100 GB of video from South Africa to edit and put together, among a dozen or so seemingly monumental bullshit tasks going on in life right now. It's a daunting amount of footage to edit and most of the videos would end up being an hour long each. I'm thinking of instead breaking the videos up into roughly 15 minute sections instead. Typically one video consists of an entire day's botanizing, with only one intro and outro per episode. So each 15 minute segment would instead likely start and stop with a black screen or map image and maybe 15 seconds of narration to set the stage for habitat, elevation, rough location on a map, etc.
What would you all prefer - that I keep the hour-long episode format, which seems brutal... Or is it easier to watch a days botanizing broken up into 3 or 4 15 minute segments showcasing maybe 6/7 species each?
Thanks in advance.
J
Comments
I'm a fan of all you do..We have similar interests and I don't get out much so whatever you post is great plants. evolution.. geology!!! social comments and video and your own trials and tribulations
Sherry Newman
2021-11-30 06:57:04 +0000 UTCLove the idea of the short video with a brief into and map to set the stage. Give us an idea of where the video and environment is and its place in the world. Obviously the hour long videos are great too
2021-11-10 22:44:39 +0000 UTCI feel like if I want some short watching I can go to Facebook and catch one every once in a bit but I really am down with a spot for longer format videos. Seems like 35 minutes or so is palatable easily too.
2021-11-10 16:46:30 +0000 UTCYes
2021-11-10 12:25:36 +0000 UTCI think both formats have value, and people will still watch them, regardless. Although I am not a YouTuber myself, I feel like the long videos might be intimidating for uninitiated viewers. Some might see the length of the longer videos and decided to watch them "later." But here is what it comes down to: Work/Life balance. In my experience, it's easier to avoid burnout than it is to come back from it.
2021-11-09 07:18:18 +0000 UTCI like the long episodes. They provide a selective pressure that promotes longer attention spans.
James
2021-11-09 04:14:34 +0000 UTCWould love any vids, have watched you for hours and loved every minute just glad you had an amazing trip and look forward to whatever is easier for you man
Colette Haskell
2021-11-08 03:30:59 +0000 UTCI would prefer 15 minute episodes. It would be nice if they were grouped into playlists on the channel's page.
Alexandre Comeau
2021-11-07 15:26:34 +0000 UTCYeah, great stuff - all appreciated, but easier to shut out the world for 15 minutes than an hour. Thanks for all you do!
Jayme Seehafer
2021-11-07 14:59:47 +0000 UTCI like a mix of lengths, sometimes I want a quick fix, sometimes I want to sit down and watch for a bit. I think a balance would be great!
2021-11-07 09:14:47 +0000 UTCI can squeeze a 15 minute video into a lunch break, so I end up watching the longer ones broken up like that anyway
Rose
2021-11-06 22:57:09 +0000 UTCLong or short videos, maybe should depend on what the subject is about and how much illustration you think we need to get ... no wait, might as well do shorter and simpler and hope for the best.
2021-11-06 17:50:03 +0000 UTCI vote shorter too. And then if they’re grouped in a “South Africa” playlist, ppl can binge longer if they want
2021-11-06 10:42:06 +0000 UTCi second this
2021-11-06 08:21:10 +0000 UTCI like the idea of the 15 minute videos
2021-11-05 19:30:10 +0000 UTCWhat ever works for you, Joey. I prefer the long format, because I'm obsessed with botany and geography, but the short ones are great, also.
April Hughes
2021-11-05 17:12:54 +0000 UTCWhatever is less work is perfect. Seriously.
Esoteric
2021-11-05 05:00:29 +0000 UTCShort sounds good.
Linus Lancaster
2021-11-05 03:11:26 +0000 UTCi vote for shorter. gotta respect the viewer's attention span.
Kevin Shlosberg
2021-11-05 01:11:35 +0000 UTCI'm gonna have to go with the short format.
Dominique Frost
2021-11-05 01:08:55 +0000 UTCI'll be honest, seeing the 50 minute timestamp sometimes means your vids end up on the watch later list for quite a while. Shorter videos with a tighter focus would let me bang out 1 or 2 in a series, then go do something else. It might help with your channel growth too if that's something you care about. I just make sure to keep the patreon donation active cuz i wanna make sure theres always some botanizing to return to when I get around to it!
Patrick Kroyak
2021-11-05 00:36:44 +0000 UTCWhatever is easiest for you! So grateful for the education and comedy. And TBH living vicariously through your travels!
Daniel Pirone
2021-11-05 00:21:15 +0000 UTCI think editing style is unique and takes the audience into consideration already. Longer videos are cool when they jump to different locations or you’re talking to someone. Otherwise the short ones are great for saving time to tag along using wiki search and shit.
2021-11-04 23:58:56 +0000 UTCI would like to see how the shorter piece with a Map & habitat intro would work out. I like the idea of setting the context and then seeing what survives/evolved there. You do a very good job of connecting the abiotic with the botanic in an evolution by natural selection context. I could see how the map/location & habitat intro approach might provide a very tight story in that sense.
Jay Holmes
2021-11-04 23:42:32 +0000 UTCShorter is good. You are a real dense watch. ;)
2021-11-04 23:39:33 +0000 UTCShorter format for my ADHD addled brain, please!
Bigfoot Is Right Outside
2021-11-04 23:18:35 +0000 UTCI like both. Sometimes I like to watch your vids while I'm doing menial tasks at work and the longer format is great for that but I don't always have the time to watch a full vid so the shorter format would be nice for those times.
2021-11-04 23:16:54 +0000 UTCI don’t mind either way. Just wanted to add to the conversation that it could be a good idea to hire a video editor to help you, given you have such an overwhelming amount of content to craft now. It would save you a lot of time :)
2021-11-04 22:45:53 +0000 UTCI like the shorter format idea.
Circuitmike
2021-11-04 22:34:07 +0000 UTCI do prefer the longer ones, but not really by much. And that's everything being equal. If your creative process is improved or made more sustainable by doing shorter vids, I'm all for it.
2021-11-04 22:28:05 +0000 UTCi like the shorter, multiple video format idea
2021-11-04 22:01:39 +0000 UTCI can do either
NateTheOK
2021-11-04 21:41:49 +0000 UTCI like the shorter format so I'm able to comprehend everything better because I have a hard time concentrating for the longer format, I get distracted easily.
2021-11-04 21:29:21 +0000 UTCI prefer shorter formats in general. It's easier to commit to watching the whole thing. I'm not saying you should never do them. The longer formats are great when you're doing longer narratives, interviews, etc. But if you're visiting a couple of locales over the course of one day, it doesn't mean a lot to me if that's packaged as one video or three or four shorter ones. Above all, I hope you find a way of working that helps you sustain your energy for the project!
2021-11-04 21:27:17 +0000 UTCI like the short format too, 15-30 minutes.
2021-11-04 21:23:08 +0000 UTCShort format is good, 15-30mins. You could also do like a "stream" VOD of the whole thing that people could watch if they wanted to go all out for a day, separately along with the shorter videos of course.
James Hershiser
2021-11-04 21:09:19 +0000 UTCDefinitely like the 15 min approach! Go for it
2021-11-04 20:59:06 +0000 UTCI somewhat prefer the longer videos, but I don't think it makes much of a difference. You should do whatever's easier\less time consuming.
2021-11-04 20:52:14 +0000 UTCThe shorter formats are fine and wouldn't make a difference. Do what is best for you because getting burned out can kill a hobby real fast.
2021-11-04 20:49:57 +0000 UTCGimmie that short burst of information so my little ape brain can reel in amazement for a day or two before you hit me again. You've made botany so accessible.
2021-11-04 20:48:15 +0000 UTCShorter is fine but whatever is easier for you, man.
2021-11-04 20:47:41 +0000 UTCShorter, 15 - 30 works well in my opinion.
Tristan Ursell
2021-11-04 20:37:27 +0000 UTCI've got no problem with the longer videos, probably prefer them even. But I reckon you'd get more views with the shorter ones. But ultimately you just do what is best for you.
2021-11-04 20:36:00 +0000 UTCShorter is my vote!
The Gypsy Barber
2021-11-04 20:25:31 +0000 UTCShorter…. Save a brain cell or three
2021-11-04 20:21:27 +0000 UTCI'll watch short and long videos, whatever you put out there for us. Always enjoy the content and a good laugh! Many thanks!
2021-11-04 20:21:01 +0000 UTCDefinitely shorter format, 15 minutes sounds great! I used to create e-Learnings professionally and, though our subject matter was WAY less interesting, ≤15 minutes in length is considered a standard reasonable "ask" of adult attention span. Also want to echo the feedback that I personally tend to avoid lengthy videos, despite knowing that I'll love the content.
Sean Radcliffe
2021-11-04 20:10:47 +0000 UTCI vote for your mental health - do the shorter videos and we'll still love them.
goldenlunafish .
2021-11-04 20:06:15 +0000 UTC15 to 30 minute sounds easily digestible.
2021-11-04 20:01:12 +0000 UTCA map image intro and shorter videos sounds wonderful, especially if there's at least a little location change between videos. If that means I won't be told to go F myself at the end of absolutely every single video, I can live with that.
Stephen Meyer
2021-11-04 19:59:00 +0000 UTCShorter format please
Gary
2021-11-04 19:55:51 +0000 UTCI really like the longer videos more because I feel like I can get more immersed into it, but putting them in a playlist would solve that problem. Really whatevers easiest for you is what you should do I think, I'm just here to see plants (and Jack)
2021-11-04 19:55:18 +0000 UTCSmaller chunks are very fun and I'm into it
2021-11-04 19:49:06 +0000 UTCI know it's a lot of extra work but if you wanted to record a video intro and maybe outro for each video that could be amusing.
Gordon Chin
2021-11-04 19:45:50 +0000 UTCI definitely prefer the longer formats. I make time for them; it feels more intentional on my part.
2021-11-04 19:40:12 +0000 UTCShort, like my attention span. Plus, I don't have time to watch an hour long anything. I'd say, 25, 30 min. max.
Dana Gibson
2021-11-04 19:38:00 +0000 UTCIll watch whatever you put out but 15 minutes is a lot easier to consume
Ashley Dickinson
2021-11-04 19:36:42 +0000 UTCShorter videos seems like a good call, mainly to lessen the burden of your workload, but also given the reality of often short attention spans among many of us—the unwashed masses, the goddamned Philistines—here in your digital audience.
2021-11-04 19:35:43 +0000 UTC15 minute videos would be very easy to digest and sounds like it'll be a bit easier on you
Lucas O'Neil
2021-11-04 19:35:02 +0000 UTCEven just as a viewer, I see the larger benefit of what ever is easier on you, and I’ve always enjoyed the shorter video format just as well as the long. Plus, with more releases when they go public, there’s a higher chance of one coming on people’s recommendations.
Thomas Lappin
2021-11-04 19:34:13 +0000 UTCMy ADHD is partial to the shorter format as well.
Taylor Darsey
2021-11-04 19:32:24 +0000 UTCI like the smaller chunks. Maybe once in a while have a longer episode if there is something really special. Love the work keep it up!
2021-11-04 19:32:21 +0000 UTCSmaller chunks in an episodic format would be pretty great. Looking forward to seeing it.
2021-11-04 19:30:08 +0000 UTCSomeone else mentioned that once you’ve uploaded a series of shorter videos, you could then put them together into a playlist for those who like the long format.
2021-11-04 19:30:07 +0000 UTCyou could put them into playlists, pt 1, pt 2, pt 3, so some context carries over and you only need to narrate the new context
Fletcher
2021-11-04 19:28:37 +0000 UTCEchoing what a few people have said, I personally love the longer videos. I like being carried through the day's botanizing without interruption. But you should do what is best for your schedule & needs. I think the pre-botanizing area explanation would be illuminating and educational. I would be sad if long videos disappeared entirely, though!
2021-11-04 19:28:14 +0000 UTCI'm cool with both formats. As somebody said earlier the long-format videos are relaxing. Shorter episodes are definitely easier to fit in the day and you can do playlists to provide a way for us with more time. I tend to like the longer videos because one hour of plants makes you forget the misery more easily than 15 minute fragments, but do whatever is best for ya Joey, we're just tagging along.
2021-11-04 19:27:43 +0000 UTCYes!!! For me, the shorter (15 min.) videos are best. I think I will view more of your content that way! Thanks; keep up the good work!
Kit Davenport
2021-11-04 19:25:54 +0000 UTCshorter for me too, but do what's best for you
2021-11-04 19:25:34 +0000 UTCThe smaller chunks would be a lot easier and you could stretch out the content over multiple days
Steve Appleman
2021-11-04 19:25:18 +0000 UTChard to commit to a one hour viewing, end up skipping ahead to bring it down to 20 mins anyways. 15 mins seems ideal.
Eric
2021-11-04 19:24:13 +0000 UTCI prefer smaller chunks.
Eva Kenieva
2021-11-04 19:24:09 +0000 UTCI'm all for the long videos, but do whats best for you
Bep
2021-11-04 19:23:02 +0000 UTCPlaylists solve these issues. Pick the method which is most likely to make you want to keep doing these. (I choose shorter and more numerous.)
2021-11-04 19:22:00 +0000 UTCShort vids sound easier to follow too
Arblebee Crimdle
2021-11-04 19:22:00 +0000 UTCWhatever's easiest. If that's 15 min vids, then do that. I usually watch them in the evening so it's no different to watch several shorter vids or 1 long vid. Thanks man for your effort btw! the channel is a jewel
Otto Poiesis
2021-11-04 19:18:50 +0000 UTCWhen I see an hour-long video, my stubborn neurotic brain tends to want to avoid committing to it. I’d definitely prefer the 15 minute segments especially if they’re easier on you.
2021-11-04 19:18:15 +0000 UTCI personally like the longer videos because I watch while I wind down from work, but do whats best for you man, im just happy to be here 🤘
casey Taylor
2021-11-04 19:17:14 +0000 UTCI love long videos, but shorter videos might be better, especially if it's easier for you. It's also nice because when I go back to watch your videos it's easier to remember what species/rant I want to rewatch when it's in smaller videos. Plus it's better for YouTube algorithm. Loving all the south Africa stuff! It's hard to digest all of it.
Cassandra
2021-11-04 19:17:11 +0000 UTCI prefer the smaller chunks, and if it's not extra work for you or even easier for you, then that seems ideal.
brandon
2021-11-04 19:16:43 +0000 UTCI tried editing video a couple of times and it's really hard.
Gordon Chin
2021-11-04 19:16:05 +0000 UTC15 minutes seems like an ideal length.
Gordon Chin
2021-11-04 19:15:19 +0000 UTC