Curtis Yarvin: The Edgelord's Guide to Monarchy 40K

When your entire political philosophy was summed up by Annakin Skywalker in Attack of the Clones, you probably should just go home…

Paul Ditta

Well, Saudi Arabia is a bit problematic, what with the whole, “I’ll have you tortured or murdered and dismembered if you say mean things about me” vibe. Anyone thinking hereditary monarchy is a good thing, I have two words for you. The first word is Prince. And the second word is Andrew. A man who has 70 + cuddly toys on his bed and a seating plan for them. If one is misplaced he loses his shit. Yikes

Paul Ditta

Sounds like the least enjoyable addition to a Disney Theme park…

Paul Ditta

Well there’s a mental image I shall take to my grave…

Paul Ditta

I can’t believe people think this guy is intelligent.

Sarah S

I’m just curious. I became a Patreon a few months back and I don’t think I’ve been given a “shoutout” yet. How does it work? I really love the show and I enjoy supporting it.

Stephen

Hi

Stephen

Not only does the Emperor have no clothes - he’s masturbating in front of everyone!

Sean Daffy

jesus christ Matt, go off king fucking hell. (Podcast Matt at the end, not me, that would be crass).

Matt

It's actually impressive to be this (allegedly) well-read, yet entirely devoid of any real insight

Matt

Just occurred to me several weeks later. He never says it, but Yarvin believes the limits upon a monarch’s power should come from people like him: wealthy, “enlightened” elites. He probably never says that directly because it’s so nakedly self-serving.

Jonathan Crymes

The real King will be able to choose himself!

Amadeusz Lisiecki

I think we need a case study on this one. He definitely needs some reorganisation upstairs lol.

Natasha Bride

I've just finished this episode... Well, that’s 3 hours of my life I won’t get back! Thanks for the experience, guys!:P :P

Joanna Go

He drops in "tower block" later in the interview too, but in the clip it seemed like this went over the interviewers' heads and didn't register with them as a British phrase that Americans don't really use. All that effort wasted!

Philip Grant

As good a theory as anything, given his complete lack of actual specifics. Pretty plausible actually that he and others would support something like that, ughh/lol.

Daniel Reed Miller

I was gonna say, those are the actual literal hereditary absolute monarchies that exist in the modern world. And he intentionally passed them right by in favor of… Singapore and communist China?? Make it make sense!

Daniel Reed Miller

Bingo!

Linda Sears

Listening to this man speaking gives me the feeling you get when it’s been 2 hours since you had that edible, and you realize you’re in the time vortex where no part of reality actually makes sense, and it never has. Actually giving me bad drug experience flashbacks. Impressive.

AzurePropagation

And inheritance. I was waiting to hear if Yarvin would go into the concept of blood bloods being better rulers.

Linda Sears

Greatly enjoyed hearing Matt's rant at the end. Truly off the leash.

Alex H

Yes, I keep thinking that one of his big problems is that he didn’t study any of this stuff in an environment where he would be pulled up on his shallow thinking. He’s just surrounded by people who don’t know what he’s talking about as he rambles on with his adolescent nonsense.

Noreen B

Lol 'simple jack'

Alex H

The specific accent of Edward VIII, maybe?

Cate Kneale

I'm still waiting for someone to explain Nick Land to me. Can i put that in as a request?

Cate Kneale

It’s mind-bogglingly pretentious, is what it is

Eric Quirk

Wow. This podcast is truly a revelation, I’m actually shocked. I pretty much already knew that Yarvin is a name-dropping intellectual poser, however I had assumed that he at least had a coherent theory of power and political organization… but no, not even that. He’s way more of a pathetic lightweight than even I had imagined! And so insufferable!

Eric Quirk

This guy looks exactly what you would think he would look like.

JGraves

This week I learned three excellent words: broligarchy, wafflearium, and The Nerd Reich. Happy New Year, y’all!

Jeanne H-B

Dude just uses, “you know”, and other stretched out meaningless words to buy himself time while he figures out what name he is going to drop next.

Will Jameson

in the traditional way - violence. steal it from those who can't defend it.

S Garvey

Matt’s point about narcissism at the end is exactly why at one point i was drawn to conspiracies and these online grifters. Can’t thank you two enough for the truly invaluable work you do

Charlie Friedberg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYrPNvVhKLU Behind the Bastards did him. More deep divy and a good compliment to DtG version. Chris and Matt are all you need to hear if you don't have time. Especially just hearing the man talk. It's significant that this guy is hanging out with Peter Thiel, JD Vance and others on election night watching parties. No doubt more cross-pollinating with mutants. The next time you hear someone like Rick Santorum casually mention that the USA is a republic and not exactly a true democracy (and thus the right to one-man-one-vote), just know that the altright thinktank messaging is afoot and guys like Yarvin are providing the historical validation, however badly, to justify disenfranchisement. Don't take this guy seriously but do take his perceived importance seriously. Reminds me of DtG profile of Aleksandr Dugin. He weaves the folklore with the state lies to convince the Russian people that Ukraine IS Russia and Russia IS Ukraine. We don't need the west...

Mike

It's wokeness that restrains the landed gentry from stepping on the neck of those who aren't...ah...landed? How does one get landed? Flowers and chocolate?

Mike

Seems like once a month one of my older relatives starts telling me about some really "interesting" guy they heard talking, that I should listen to. Usually the discussion leaves me confused and annoyed (and in this case yelling about covid not coming from a lab). Then a couple of weeks later you guys do an episode on them and I am like "so thats what that was about..."

Ema Corro

Ok that’s hilarious. I’m stealing this.

Noreen B

the King of the Nerd Reich.

S Garvey

re: will Apple survive without Tim Cook? How will United Heathcare survive without . . . that CEO guy who got shot whose name I can't remember?

S Garvey

the point he was trying to make about the Uhgers was about violence. What these people think (I read his blog ages ago) is that power needs sovereignty to enact legitimate violence. The Chinese used brute violence to deal with the Ughers while we (US) fund proxy "revolutionaries" to CAUSE violence. this relates to Israel. they think Israel needs to be given space to end the war entirely. It's liberalism that perpetuates war with its focus on human rights which restrains the ability of sovereigns to enact violence to solve problems. that's their ideology.

S Garvey

Either that or it’s the subject of the last book he read.

Ben Godek

I think he was trying to make a joke with his British interviewers.

Ben Godek

I wondered that as well. Given his love of monarchy, one would think he’d have an affected English accent.

Linda Sears

I came to the comments because I need someone to address the “I’m using the British pronunciation of Nazi”. What?! Is this a thing? Why use an accent for just one word? Was that supposed to be a joke? Also, not even self described Nazis talk about Nazis as much as this guy.

Megan

It sounded like someone trying and failing to write a Seinfeld joke. (drive on a parkway, park on a driveway)

Megan

Oh and also his weird comment about CP members back in the day—but actually characters in the movie Reds he was referencing—living like modern San Franciscans?! I giggled. One of my grandfathers (who had very opposite politics to me but who always took me seriously even as a teen, listened to me, challenged me, and crucially for my learning let himself be challenged and even change his mind on things) once called SF ‘Moscow one the Pacific’. Love ya gramps, but 🤣🤣🤣

Monica B.

Omg great reference!!!

Monica B.

Hahaha exactly!

Monica B.

So true! I was so annoyed to realize that there is a person in the world that I would choose listening to Peterson over

Monica B.

This new-to-me / may-we-never-meet-again dude is so painful to listen to! I could have lived a full and happy life without ever knowing he existed hahahaha. He talks like someone on zoom who is secretly doing google searches the whole time to find the most superficial touchstones or overly specific facts listed at the top of a Wikipedia page to sound like they know what they are talking about. Also the Eastern brain thing?!?! Like there is no diversity on a quarter of the globe?! These people are terrifying in their confident banality. All that said this was a most entertaining episode, and Chris and Matt, your laughs and reactions and frustration and disgust truly spoke for us all!

Monica B.

I can almost see him walking about in the ruffled collar and poofy pants, hose, and cape. All would be well until he got smallpox and died.

Linda Sears

True. That kind of equivocation does so much of Peterson's work for him. Life would be so much easier if I stopped sweating the little details (like caring about being right).

Lance

We can call this the Jordan Peterson transitive theory of categories: if A and B have any similarities, then A belongs in every category that B does, and vice-versa. For example, fire is a predator because it hurts you, and so do bears. QED

Ben Godek

I didn't know much of anything about Yarvin prior to this episode, aside from knowing that he is an influential thinker for the new right movement. I expected to find his opinions repugnant, but I also thought he would be articulate and intelligent. I was a bit surprised by how incoherent and bloviating he is

Bernt Goodson

It’s like he grew up watching too much of The Lion King, idolizing Simba, and now applies rose-colored glasses to historical monarchies with impressive white washing of pretty uncontroversial atrocities like that of the Uyghurs. Also does anyone else find he sounds very similar to Tim Kennedy, which makes listening to him even more unpleasant?

Milquetoast Ramen

I am loving the term “Broligarchy” to describe our “uber-cool” tech overlords.

AnnieB

Very similar to a lot of the gurus, but especially Jordan Peterson I think. The meandering answers that reference a ton of things that make him sound smart.

Ben Godek

Haha she sure would. Probably her overall level of cleanliness also!

Guruspod 2

Ok, didn't think I'd be overly entertained by this after already experiencing the BtB episode on Yarvin, but I was wrong!

JustTheWorstEver

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpO8OEkiORc

OR

Amy S

I think Shakespeare was savvy enough not to get on the wrong side of the queen; celebrating England and some of its great rulers was sort of required. I really dislike the theory that Shakespeare could not have been a “common” middle class man. I don’t think he would have been able to appeal to multiple audiences had he not been middle class.

Linda Sears

What a tour de force of guru decoding! Some thoughts- I think Queen Elizabeth I would have been impressed by Queen Elizabeth II’s teeth. The rotating wafflarium (wafflerium?) is my new favorite Chrisism.

Linda Sears

I've listened to many stupid people over the years I've enjoyed your podcast, but Curtis Yarvin actually made me dumber listening to him.

Mike Nelson

It's interesting that he dodges the question about Saudi Arabia and the UAE, because those monarchies certainly have plenty of friends among western conservatives.

Philip Grant

Is it a family connection maybe? (He mentioned his grandmother a couple of times in the context of the CPUSA.)

Philip Grant

I'd say Chris term "wafflerium" sums it up pretty neat!

Fredrik Gunnarson

I definitely share Matt's strange surprise/disappointment that I thought he'd be more interesting, albeit in a repellent way. JBP's pseudo-profound bullshit at least has a high WTF factor, even if it's ultimately similarly vacuous

John S Durst

Well you did it fellas: the single most infuriating episode of the year. The oratory equivalent of that game where you try and get from one Wikipedia page to another in the least number of clicks. Merry Shitmas gang.

George

How anyone thinks this meandering lunatic is a heavyweight philosopher is beyond me. Both monarchy and CEO run city states are an idiotic idea on their face. Anyone advocating for a return to a single authoritarian leader is just advocating for the worst excesses and stupidities of both Maoist China and Stalinist Russia. I guess that’s why people like Thiel, Musk and Vance like him. They want unconditional power and he’s the “philosophical” backing they need to legitimize their desires.

James Watts

I'm under the impression that Yarvin got his major 'bump' from his being written about by Nick Land in the Dark Enlightenment (not that Yarvin's arguments are actually well outlined or advocated for in that book, either).

Ymirsdreams

Also that was the 'answer' to the question, 'is the civic calamity that America is facing right now the fault of democracy'? I'm not sure which 'civic calamity' the host was talking about (she and I probably have different views on what is calamitous) but in what world is his sophistry even close to relevant?

Kerena

I’ll check!

Christopher Kavanagh

It’s projection… I’ve played Space Marine 2 and am watching lore videos now.

Christopher Kavanagh

Does anyone know why he's so obsessed with the history of the CPUSA? I mean it does have a very interesting history and at certain time periods was closer to a mass party and had influence or a least a role in labor, social movements, working class (especially immigrant) culture and the intellectual left. Like all parties there's factions and splits and whatnot and then there's the relationship with Moscow. It's not uninteresting. But I'm a former member of this party (in a very mild incarnation) and lemme tell you it has absolutely no influence even on the left currently. I really have no idea why ol Curtis keeps bringing it up.

Kerena

I didn’t expect Yarvin to win me over to his worldview in this ep but WOW that “democracy and politics are the same thing yet ppl say democracy good and politics bad hmmm checkmate libs 😏” argument is the stupidest thing I’ve heard a person say out loud in a while. Stunning stuff.

Hayden Setlik

His approach really makes the case for academia. He thinks he's doing what an academic does by reading six books and trying to shove vaguely remembered points from those books into supporting bland pre-conceived anti-'woke' talking points. That's just the sort of thing I did as an undergraduate. Came to understand that decent academics have a wide reading and understanding of their fields; are conversant with different methodologies; deliberately choose and explain their methodology; are constantly humbled by their peers. I didn't want to do any of that and became a lawyer.

Kerena

Thank you phanatic for this phact!

Kerena

He's boring and lacks any substance but his ideas are ultimately convenient to someone like Thiel because just justify what he was going to do anyway. Billionaires who believe they should be allowed to do whatever they want regardless of the cost to everyone else promote him to justify their existence.

Unfitforpurpose

I can deal with the constant attacks on nebulous "humanities" graduates from Matt. But I was listening to this while painting my miniatures and quite frankly I feel attacked.

Unfitforpurpose

The comment from Chris about K not entirely agreeing he is a “classical liberal” comes a clip or two BEFORE the relevant clip, so there is an out-of-order edit, at least on the public version I listened to today. Just FYI Chris.

Maytree

The Warhammer 40k vibes are indeed strong. This guy takes me back to age 11, arguing with friends over which army is better based on lore and pretty pictures before I actually understood the game mechanics.

Trees

I'd never heard of Curtis Yarvin before (and thank god for that he's a waste of time!) Like Chris and Matt said, I wish he was edgier so I had something to pay attention to. I found myself tuning out whenever Curtis got going. Like Peterson and Pageau, he seems to love whether something is "really" something which is such a snoozefest of a topic every time I hear about it "That's not 'really' democracy". It just. Doesn't. Stop. "What does 'mean' mean?"

Lance

Utterly insufferable but one interesting observation: JBP's long journeys into the lands of myths, dragons and other fantasies, while mostly exhausting, can be entertaining, fun little mental gymnastics. The same cannot be said for this clown's BS. It just doesn't work when you journey into the lands of facts and reality (be it political, historical or whatever). The results are different . JBP looks like a maniac. This guy just looks like a baffoon...

Chomagerider

Simple Jack, in this case, should go full retard and insist Yarvin to explain it that way.

Adam Sher

“I think he’s describing YouTube…” [chef’s kiss]

Shaggy Rabbit

He kept saying that he’s “looking into the past” but he never once explained WHY the past is preferable. On the Shakespeare point, there are plenty of pro-monarchy speeches in Shakespeare, but there are plenty of examples of bad rulers causing a lot of suffering too…

Ben Godek

I mean you could compare and contrast Uyghurs and Afghans as two central Asian Muslim cultures, but his point was ultimately just racist drivel so he doesn’t deserve any credit.

Ben Godek

Vast majority of afghan peoples are from Iranian cultural groups. 11% are Turkic, like Uyghurs. And of the Iranian groups there are groups like Hazara who speak an Iranian language but has a big Turkic influence and they have a lot of Turkic genetic ancestors. So it’s not wrong to say Uyghurs and Afghans have a shared history and lots of cultural connections. That said, I don’t see any real connection though between PRC in Xinjiang (East Turkestan) and the US in Afghanistan. The PRC has a colonial project, the US had a regime change project. The Turkic minorities were generally supportive of the US, the Taliban is Pashtun and tries (maybe less now back in power) to impose Pashtunwali (pashtun social code). One of the biggest US allies was militia leader Abdul Rashid Dostum, an Uzbek (Turkic) who defected from the Soviet backed government to the mujahideen after the USSR collapsed. TBH I think Curtis really just wanted to say “I think what the PRC is doing in Xinjiang is good.” He thinks might makes right. I don’t get the impression that either him or Konstantin really cares about Uyghurs or Afghans so it’s gross to see them used as a prop.

Podcast Phanatic

He has a Ben Shapiro-esque delivery when he gets going. That must be the mechanism that lures in the followers. Certainly certain about everything. 🙄

Jen

“The idea a professor should run the government was absurd in 1900” - the president of the US in 1913 was Woodrow Wilson a political science professor and former Princeton university professor. Maybe he’s referring to this but his style of speaking is so convoluted it’s unclear? But to me his point just sounded completely nonsensical.

Podcast Phanatic

My god he is preternaturally insufferable

Kyle Wilson

Two things: 1) I would say this guy is an idiot but that's an insult to all idiots. 2) I hate that pseudo-academic voice that is so common in people who think they are smarter than everyone else.

John Pohl

Jesus Christ, I’m fully dead from listening to his voice. How is it that men with this tone of voice are allowed to bloviate endlessly?!? And men don’t MIND the tone?!? They can pay attention? And people made fun of Kamala’s LAUGH??? I truly don’t get it.

Melissa Eldridge

He and others like Thiel or Musk basically want a weak figurehead like Trump that they can manipulate to fulfill their agenda. So i guess he ultimatley wants a system like Russia - with fake elections and some sort of Oligarchy in the background. Of course saying these things outright would probably cause too much of an outcry at the moment - hence all the obfuscation and evasion.

teethgrinder

His voice sounds a bit like Michael O’Fallon to me. Maybe old school right wing authoritarians gravitate towards talking like that.

Ben Godek

A laboured exchange of something but I wouldn’t call them ideas.

Dada de Broglie

“It is such a waste of time…I’m so sorry to everyone for having to subject you to this…but it has to be done”—Matt FTW! 😁👍 Well done, you two🙏

Kgar

Lol… You know damn well that, if Eric W did LSD, he would not make any more sense 🤣

Kyle H

"Intellectual powerhouses of the centre left"! Love this description of the triggernometry boys

Spartacus Mills

You know when you're a first year university student, and you think you know everything, have all the solutions and can reference lots of things you've heard your lecturers say?

Jack

Most historians think themselves into the past don't they? Surely there is nobody who likes history that doesn't try to understand the points of view of the people who lived there? Who is he talking to exactly??? People who like technology so much they have never considered anything else?

Nina Davies

Found myself thinking, 'wait does china share a border with Afghanistan?'. Turns out he's not wrong.. there is a skinny strip of land the extends east from Afghanistan to China.. with a 90km border. Thin grounds for a cultural connection

Majestic Syrnicki

Why does this guy talk like he's singing? How does that happen? Also, I've never heard such nonsense in my life.

Natasha Bride

In my experience, people on LSD make a lot more sense than this guy. I'm offended on behalf of LSD lol. I think he's just really stupid.

Natasha Bride

Yes. He's a big influence on the "network states" advocates, one of whom I heard rabbiting on about "philosopher kings"

Stephen McGlinchey

Fuck this guy is boring. Insubstantial lightweight

Protagonist Science

When projecting himself into the past Yarvin assumes he’d be an Elizabethan courtier or member of the Prussian aristocracy. I’d like someone to ask him to imagine himself as a rag seller, chimney sweep, or scullery maid

Jennifer Nelson

This guy kind of seems like Eric W did some LSD.

Kyle H

Matt’s assessment is on point. Yarvin seems to be the authoritarian-conservative response to Fukuyama’s case for liberalism without Fukuyama’s actual intellectual heft.

Brice F

What about Magna Carta? Did she die in vain? /JK

Robert Andrews

Yeah, I think it was in Anthony Beevor's Stalingrad (or Montefiore's Court of the Red Tsar), where, on the eve of Germany's invasion of the Soviet Union, a German soldier defects by jumping into a river and swimming across to the Soviet soldiers and shows them a phrasebook with phrases like "Hands up!" "Surrender!" "Identify your commissar" etc.... but when he got there and the message went up the command, I think (probably shouldn't be doing all this from memory), that Stalin told them to have him shot. There were warnings coming from all over the place, including Richard Sorge, a Soviet spy working in the German embassy in Japan and even Mao and Kim Il-Sung knew about the impending invasion which Stalin stubbornly refused to believe putting his faith in one of the most obviously untrustworthy humans in history.

Robert Andrews

Apparently the vast bulk of food stuff for the German army was being imported from soviet Ukraine which was immediately cut off. This lose of calories had an influence on German food policies and hastened the attitude to who was to be fed and not. Seriously sad game

Mark Francis

Yes fascinating for sure. Synders pretty much says what your saying… Hitler is (luckily) the ultimate Hedgehog from Isaiah Berlins essay The hedgehog and the fox. Hitler knew one big thing, where as Foxes know many things. You would think that Hitler would of read Tolstoy or at least aware of Napoleon’s rush at Moscow?!

Mark Francis

Love the mighty boosh shout out lol. "We are.. looking backwards". Phenomenal reference.

Vee

The defeat of France convinced the OKH that they could rapidly defeat Russia in just a few months. Gorodersky also has Stalin being caught off guard, but also Stalin knew he was the source for raw materials for Germany so it would’ve been counterproductive for the German war against the Brits. Stalin was acting like a 19th century realpolitik statesman taking advantage, but didn’t realize the seriousness of Nazi ideology. Tooze and Maiolo’s books (Wages/Cry Havoc) point that Hitler thought he could quickly knock out the Soviets to incorporate their economic resources in order to focus on gaining dominance over the Anglo-Americans. It’s a fascinating subject!

Brice F

And thought no one was crazy enough to run at Moscow in the winter without the necessary gear

Mark Francis

I just finished Snyder’s Bloodlands. He commented that Stalin was caught off guard about Hitlers invasion because his intelligence sources said that the German Army were not issuing winter gear to the troops at the time

Mark Francis

Is his gibberish basically a 14 year olds red pill take on plato's idea of a philiopher king?

Rambo Billy

You know it’s bad when the decoders are rooting for Francis

Kelley

Icebreaker refers to Suvorov, a Soviet Cold War dissident who claimed that the Soviets were going to attack Germany first so Barbarossa was just self defense (German propaganda made this case during the war). Gorodetsky’s Grand Delusion is the best breakdown of the icebreaker idea and other conceptions of the origins of the invasion of the Soviets in 1941. McMeekin’s book is pretty polarizing among WW2 historians too. Wouldn’t vault it over others unless blaming communism for WW2 is just that much more psychologically soothing

Brice F

It's baffling that intellectual powerhouse of modern far-right is this hollow. Previous generations had ideologues like Marx and Evola who at least wrote complete books where they laid down their ideology like it or not. If I interpreted the Yarvins ramblings correctly he likes Monarchy because he believes that he will be part of the ruling elite and it will be magically aligned with his opinions. edit. Probably closest thing to Yarvins ideal ruler is Genghis Khan, but I doubt that many people think that Mongol Empire was an ideal form of governance.

commutercomputer

groan- that last bit about how tech is making people useless. its hilarious how much the godfather of the dark enlightenment or whatever the they call him really is just a sophmoric fanboy

boo

Meandering through his blog, I found some weird stuff: The day after the terror attacks in Norway (22.07.2011) he wrote a blog post where he condemned the mass murderer… on grounds of being ineffectual. He seems to use a lot of false equivalence, and selective and often times outright false reading of history. I think maybe he’s the closest (at least from the episodes I’ve heard) to just being an outright fascist/neo-nazi.

Marfolini

OMG I never thought I would hear the Chinese authorities response to the Uyghurs population as an example of good government. In that case Hitler built a lot of roads.

Emma

A Christmas gift for all the good little patrons & decoders! Will be interesting to compare your take to Robert Evans ‘ & BtB’s, I liked those episodes. Thanks!

Nancy Hale

oh wow yea - a curious artifact of the era to be sure. 'Plastic Surgery' from the soundtrack goes so hard

boo

I’m only a little ways in, but I’m already annoyed. Of course Elizabeth I and Shakespeare etc weren’t into democracy. They were pre enlightenment. Democracy as it’s currently conceived didn’t exist yet!

Jenson

Big thanks for getting this uploaded today! Listening while I prepare some Bitterballen.

Gungy

“More radical than a Nazi.”Woah dude 🤯

Chris Clark

Jeez he is playing dungeons and dragons, meanwhile… Trump is playing Risk. Elon is trying to win the science victory in Civilization, Putin is playing 5D chess and Xi is playing Go. All very poorly too

Mark Francis

Hang on, I'm two hours in and I'm now wondering if Yarvin wants an AI monarch and maybe some techno-priests to keep it accountable? I may just be losing my mind though.

Cate Kneale

What a Christmas gift. A decoding ep from our dynamic duo 😝❤️

Kgar

Merry Christmas gents! And fellow DGTers

Kgar

Wow I’m glad I’ve never heard this guy. Insufferable bullshit artist.

Kgar

Every time Curtis Yarvin references Elizabeth the First and what she'd think of our society I can't stop thinking about Derek Jarman's Jubilee. But I really don't think that they share a philosophy.

Cate Kneale

Burn it straight to CD! 👴🏻

Empty_Cognizance

kamala's word salads immediately came to mind when moldbug began frantically meandering after being asked for a cogent argument for monarchism

boo

This guy has made my brain hurt. My God he's painful..

Gearóid

Thank you for the Christmas poddie, always on point with your gift giving 🥰 Happy Christmas everyone!

Lillie

All good! Didn't mean to be snarky but maybe it was. I dunno, it's Christmas, who's to say. Listening now, great ep 🖤

JACK VAUL

I'll fix that. Thanks for the heads up!

Christopher Kavanagh

A wav file! I'm going to have to listen to this on the good speakers. The 816mb download was a slog for the podcast app but I'm keen to hear you two legends in uncompressed form.

JACK VAUL

Christmas day listening to this podcast is something I never realised I needed.

Gearóid