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Next Decoding Material: Curtis Yarvin

We are doing a two-for-one set of gurus next with Curtis Yarving and Peter Thiel before heading into left-wing wonkery.

For those who want to play along, here is the Yarvin material we will be looking at. We also get to hear from Francis and Konstantin! Yay!

Next Decoding Material: Curtis Yarvin

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Yes. Very common term used by children of communist parents. Mainly baby boom generation.

Martin Birch

PS - anyone here in the US ever hear of a “red diaper baby”??? My ears are bleeding

Melissa Eldridge

WHAT AM I LISTENING TO?? Even the sound of his voice makes me want to die - why are they letting him talk and WHAT IS HE TRYING TO SAY AHHHHHHH ☠️

Melissa Eldridge

Still, you've got give a libertarian credit for being able to see that libertarianism (which is what he means by 'freedom') is incompatible with democracy.

Sonje Finnestad

Yes, my experience of old communists - the few who are left - is that they continue to be very careful in all sorts of ways. And they do use the word "progressive" in that way.

Sonje Finnestad

He 'explains' everthing at such unnecessary length. Do these guys not feel insulted, being talked down to like that?

Sonje Finnestad

The hairdoo is very AGP

KBDaxio

Yeah, he swings wildly between knowing and referencing obscure thinkers I have never heard, and shocking gaps in his basic knowledge. The one that hit me was when he claimed that the term “progressive” dates back to Communists of the 1930s without realizing that there was a whole Progressive Movement that elected two very non-Communist presidents, and then a Progressive Party about a generation earlier.

Noah Heck

Ha. My mother always wanted to name her son John, but after marrying my father she had to give that up. She’s 89 and I think it still bothers her.

Martin Birch

Your family? Communists? The John Birch family?

Dada de Broglie

Have to say I liked his descriptions of his grandparents and 1930’s communists. Very much like my family and their friends, including the reluctance to discuss their old affiliations even after 50-60 years. Still concerned who could be listening. And many used progressive as a euphemism for communist.

Martin Birch

That Manscaped ad was something else.

Linda Sears

“I am Richard II, know ye not that?” ~Elizabeth I

Dada de Broglie

Crazy how he invented the “red pill” term. Must be all of those old books he reads. The Hero as Blogger.

Dada de Broglie

This Francis guy is like a Tocotronic member from the upside down

mobitobi

He definitely ate too many ‘soggy biscuits’ in the dormitory of that private school he went to

Mark Francis

I confess this guy bothered me so much I had to skip around rather than listening straight through, so I could be wrong (to quote the great sage Peterson), but was he arguing that Elizabethan England was a time to look back on with fondness? Because Elizabethan England was kind of a bloody mess if one was a Catholic. And Shakespeare was a man of his day, so it is no wonder he was a monarchist, and had he not been sufficiently praising of the monarchy, he would have found his head on the chopping block.

Linda Sears

It feels like whatever this guy possesses that can be called intelligence it’s a very vertical slice.

Sam Morris

I can’t stop thinking about idiocracy. I can’t see him, exactly as he is as President Camacho’s closest adviser.

Sam Morris

Ew, he‘s so smug

mobitobi

Wow, this guy tracing his path of discovery to the dark enlightenment... it's just an endless stream of strawman arguments knocked down by logical fallacies. Diagramming this would be both hellacious and amazing.

Bill Ellis

I love it when just a simple reiteration is enough.

Sam Morris

Very, very softly. Who’s going to be chosen and how is succession going to work? Are a couple of sitters. If it’s me, chosen as king that is, can I stick him in a reeducation camp?

Sam Morris

Never before have I understood the idea that reading might not always be a good thing. He’s like stupid John Gray. All the right references for an interesting conversation but at least with John Gray he has the decency to pull his conclusions out of a hat.

Sam Morris

Did they? I got half a hour in and they've said like 3 sentences between them

Z

He has the same pattern as other gurus where he will create a baseline that sounds calm and carefully reasoned, but then smuggle in absurd arguments in the same tone of voice. Like the teacher telling the student he must be a nazi, or what would Elizabeth think of Hitler. And because the rest of the speech made him sound like he thinks things through, you'll give him the benefit of the doubt for those terrible takes that get sprinkled in.

Z

What a smug, self satisfied prat. I actually have no idea what his point was, except, maybe, modern liberal democracy - bad, and only people like him are smart enough to see it.

Aaron Holder

I may be fat, but I am clever enough not to point myself gut first into a social situation.

Noah Heck

The gut hanging out under the shirt in the beginning… I’m fat too but yeesh

D

Okay. He has provided his evidence for experts being corrupted by using the lab leak. I had to wait til the end to hear that wacky reasoning.

Linda Sears

He uses the lab leak as his “evidence” for experts being corrupted/untrustworthy and why a monarchy is a better system than democracy.

Linda Sears

I know that ad hominem attacks are never a useful way to engage with an idea, and will accept dutifully if not enthusiastically if this post needs be deleted, BUT My god is this guy a fat, self-satisfied, stupid, mendacious bag of shit.

Noah Heck

I recognize that sensation. Your description is exact.

Anne Stephens

Yarvis has been popular lately and seems like an awful dude

Tobias nilsson

Oh it’s just so great to see Francis Foster!! Just made my day!

Julie

Jeez another anti modernist romanticizing the past, with a very loose definition of oligarchy and monarchy

Mark Francis

I lot of waffle to sugarcoat fascism

David Noble

I was completely ignorant of this guy until today. It was bliss. What a tool. I’m not sure I can make it through an hour of the sound of his voice 🤢

Nell Van Vorst

apparently he has proven himself as a computer programmer, even as a theorist in that field, or so I've been told by a programmer friend.

Augustin Cambau

He’s smart? This interview made me think of ‘Idiocracy’

Sam Morris

I felt my brains seeping out of my ears listening to this.

Sam Morris

Blanket statements like “experts become corrupted” without any proof or explanation bother me. In addition, isn’t reacting to progressivism/liberalism by becoming a traditionalist not uncommon? I don’t see that as a red pill, world changing awakening moment.

Linda Sears

"Marketplace of Ideas" at 1:06:00. Christ.

Jack

I've been wishing for a Yarvin decoding for a while, but I'm finding out listening to this interview that he's not even very good at playing the deep-thinking royalist. Just another smart edgy boy with many names to drop

Augustin Cambau

God he's painful to listen to. The massive speech he builds off the back of 'the teacher telling the student if you don't agree with this you're a nazi' I don't remember this lesson in Government and Politics or History. Maybe I was sick that day.

Rufus Evans

Blast from the past. Where he belongs.

Philip

It's so fucking exhausting listening to this pretentious asshole. I need a break.

Jack

If it makes you feel any better they sort of push back against this guy the whole time. Albeit softly

Richard Haas

Btw when is this episode dropping?

Richard Haas

Just listened to this. This guy is great at not answering any questions. Almost as bad as Peterson…

Richard Haas

Looking forward to this! These two with JD Vance as their candidate are basically the intellectual ballast for the new technofascist worldview. As Thiel wrote, "Freedom and Democracy are no longer compatible" in an article few years ago. It's a weird but influential and scary movement.

SHOUNAK SARKAR

Haha was just about to say

Níall Faughnan

6 mins to crawl into Plato's cave, is that a record?

Jack

Half the point of DtG is to help with that. Chris' algo suffers so yours doesn't have to.

Unfitforpurpose

Yay! Thank you.

Violet

I have to admit I dislike giving Triggernometry views. They're so obvious in their grifting.

Níall Faughnan


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