Haikyuu!! 1x5 Reaction Extended (YT link below)
Added 2022-11-15 22:22:05 +0000 UTCIn Haikyuu 1x5, A Coward's Anxiety, the stereotypical volleyball hooligans gain 4 new members and receive a new spite-filled challenge.
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It's not your fault when it comes to "short-term" decisions, your biology actually makes you do that, it is really hard to go the other way with long-term decisions. Read the book "Incognito" if you want an explanation on free will and choices :)
Aray YIKAMACI
2023-02-20 03:37:44 +0000 UTC@benj I actually read through this thread a second time because it was living in my head rent free for a couple days. I kinda cringed at first a little from second hand embarrassment, but I felt a strong urge to read it again. I’m naturally the kind of person who wants to go balls deep in controversial topics and expand my knowledge base. It was a good read, I’m surprised by the points that everyone made and the amount of research done by all the parties involved. Obviously many of the things that you said were very problematic, but I was still extremely fascinated by your viewpoints, sometimes like you would be fascinated in a two headed snake, but still fascinating. I’ve never seen a collection of opinions like that I’m fairly religious and right leaning myself as well, and also a half Latin second generation immigrant, but don’t really gel with the whole “natural flow thing” (maybe cause I’m autistic, idk), but whatever, everyone has their opinions. Also kinda surprised with you being religious since you had shown to be totally for premarital sex in a Kaguya video (something I personally don’t plan on doing but am still chill with others). I agree with the other commenters more so and disagree with most of what you said. Sometimes I think you need to go outside more often. But I still think everyone here made articulate arguments without getting overly emotional, far better than the degenerates I talk to on the internet. I feel like my knowledge base got richer just from reading this.
Chris Sharpe
2022-11-20 14:59:03 +0000 UTCDamn…. was catching up on Haikyuu videos and stumbled across this thread, really spiced up my hmmmm….. (checks time) midnight.
Chris Sharpe
2022-11-20 05:34:15 +0000 UTCWas just catching up on Haikyuu videos now (just started season 2) and saw this. Thanks for the thoughtfulness!
Chris Sharpe
2022-11-20 05:17:17 +0000 UTC“The epic battle to defeat the mild trash-talker continues,” “Once per episode, the ball-in-the-face quota . At least,” “Everyone’s clothes just coming off. Not sure who this is for, but I know it’s not for me,” (Various yelling at the characters to give themselves credit) “Everyone wants a piece of Kageyama,” “This a great day. Free pork buns,” “What is this, some kind of weird, twisted volleyball revenge?” “The stereotypical volleyball hooligans,” “These are some of the best midcards I’ve ever seen,” “I am you. I am you. Thank you for being here to explain this to me,” (It’s so funny seeing Haikyuu from the perspective of someone who doesn’t know jack about volleyball. Half of my family played at a somewhat high level, and the rest learned from that. I don’t remember a time not knowing how to play, so it’s a LOT of fun seeing Goodwin essentially learn from scratch) “We don’t need to block with offense like this,” (in utter shock) “There’s more than one girl in this universe!?” “This is a man with vision. Wow indeed,” “A volleyball player needs his rest,” “If you can do it once, it means you can do it again, and probably even better than you did the first time,” (This is season four stuff lmaoo)
Geneva The Weeba
2022-11-17 03:23:01 +0000 UTCDang Goodwin switched to saying Hinata instead of Shou. I thought it was cute lol
Geneva The Weeba
2022-11-17 02:51:17 +0000 UTCjoined the patreon expecting great analysis and wow, amazing stuff. cant wait for more haikyuu !
Jasmine Tea Enjoyer
2022-11-17 00:22:24 +0000 UTCIt is demonising to assume that a persons sexuality creates victims yeah, a person simply being homosexual has absolutely zero baring on your life at all. Also "most meaningless"? Please point to me where anyone asked you to insert your own religious beliefs into a conversation about boys playing volleyball. I am all for friendly debate and am sure there is some credit to your beliefs, but if you can't see how policing people's sexuality based on a religion not held by everyone is harmful then I don't know what to tell you.
izzy
2022-11-16 21:24:47 +0000 UTC@Izzy Congrats for winning the award of the most meaningless comment on this thread. Literally nothing of value from what you just said. Is there no way to talk about these issues without being disrespectful according to you? If any single person doesn't completely 100% prescribe to the 2022 mainstream left wing viewpoint on the LGBT community, than that means they are being disrespectful and demonizing? Ok.
benj
2022-11-16 20:57:05 +0000 UTC"The fist victim of homosexuality is the person himself" bro what the fuck are you on about, this is a comment section of a sports anime reaction, not your safe space to disrespect and demonise gay people. It's clear from how passionate you are about that this that you have a lot to work through, but you should consider the weight of your words and rhetoric.
izzy
2022-11-16 20:53:42 +0000 UTC@Donnie I never said Japan is perfect, they have many cultural issues just like any other nation, and most of it can get boiled down to two things I have already discussed a lot in this thread, Godlessness, and exploitive free market Capitalism. Japan has a massive issue with overworking its male salary men population, who have to stay at the office as long as possible in order to climb these idiotic corporate ladders, which are inefficient and don't even help the company grow or improve. On top of this, Japan is one of the least religious countries in the world, and if the national militaristic government didn't genocide the millions of Japanese Christians on the southern islands who were converted by Portuguese missionaries in the 15th/16th century, it probably would have spread throughout the entire nation like it has in many other countries, and today it would be a religious country, but unfortunately that didn't pan out. -I do believe there are multiple victims when someone is a homosexual, it is impossible to procreate which is the fundamental reason for existing. All of us typing on this thread exist not because of gays or trans people, but because our parents had unprotected heterosexual intercourse and brought a new child of God into this world. When people choose to not do this for their entire life, they are not only ending their genetic line, therefore completely working against thousands of years of their ancestors working and dying in order for you to exist, but you are also negatively affecting society by not creating the next generation that will take care of the old, and continue to improve the wellbeing of all of humanity. The decline of the birth rate in Western and developed Nations is one of the biggest tragedy's of the modern age, and one of the many reasons why this is happening is because Western society is getting more and more gay, and that is not happening naturally, it is happening due to social engineering from powerful forces with a lot of money and influence who want it to happen for sinister reasons. The final victim of homosexuality is the gay person themself, and this is a really sad thing, because in fact the vast majority of homosexuality is caused by traumatic events and severe trauma being inflicted on said homosexual when they are young during childhood. Almost all gay people went through some type of extremely traumatic experience, or multiple traumatic experiences, when they were in critical stages of physical development. Or in some cases its because of failure in socialization when they were in childhood. This is why homosexual people go on to have high partner counts, high levels of promiscuity, lots of drug addiction, etc. -I totally agree we should be tolerant of LGBT people and people shouldn't bully them or treat them harshly, etc. But, LGBT people are far from the only group of people in this world who get treated badly by the general population, you don't see these types of extremely disproportionate levels of suicide, drug abuse, promiscuity, etc. among other minority groups, even though those groups are treated even worse in a lot of cases than gays are. These include racial minorities, religious minorities, ideological minorities, and none of them have the same disproportionate levels of suicide. -All the data shows that American women in the 50's and 60's were much happier than they are now, and that was back when traditional gender roles were much more the norm. Yes, a lot of modern day countries who still uphold those traditional gender roles happen to be countries in the 3rd world that are undeveloped and are rife with lots of other issues not relating to gender roles, which is why they have lower levels of life satisfaction. Also those countries are negatively affected by the current globalist economic structure that is in place, like Japan, because the exploitative Capitalist corporations want as many women as possible to be in the workforce because then they can have more labor that they can exploit for their own profits. These powerful billionaires and think-tank groups decided in the 50's and 60's to begin the expansion of the female's role in the workforce so that they could make more money, you may think its because women wanted to work 50 hours a week in a factory and that that's somehow empowering or something, but in fact it was only done so that giant corporations could make more money from a larger labor force that now includes Billions of women. -To entertain your personal curiosity, the first 5 books of the Old Testament were told to the original Israelites (Completely different from modern day Israelis) by the Holy Spirit, and the rest of the Bible was simply inspired from that original text. There were hundreds if not thousands of witnesses to the Holy Spirit giving this knowledge to them. On top of this, Jesus Christ, the son of god, was a real person who historians today, religious or not religious, accept that he was a real human like us who walked the Earth. The first four books of the New Testament are the intimate telling of his life, and if you read those first four books you would know that Jesus was... let's just say a very cool dude. Like, very epic indeed. When Jesus died for all of our sins and decided to be tortured to death in order to save all of humanity, he rose from the tomb and ascended back to the kingdom of heaven with his father. Twelve out of the Thirteen apostles, even with a sword to their neck and their family, refused to denounce Jesus and refused to deny that they did in fact see him rise from the tomb. All Twelve of them were systematically hunted down, tortured, their lives and families destroyed, and eventually all were killed, and not a single one of them ever confessed or admitted that what they saw was untrue. That is incredibly significant. It's a very important, real story, that is the basis for all of Western Civilization, which you and I are a part of, and for those reasons among many many others our God is the one and only true God of this Earth that all human beings will face final judgment from when they die.
benj
2022-11-16 20:42:11 +0000 UTC@Tope I am a half-Hispanic, half-White second generation immigrant who was born and grew up in some of the most liberal states in the US. -Believing that I have a coded message in the opinions I have displayed here in the comments is very much so not good faith, why assume I am hiding secret messaging in my opinions that are actually way worse than what I am saying if you don't even know me? Just because I have alternative viewpoints to your own, that means I am secretely coding more extreme messaging in my comments? I have not typed a single Dogwhistle in any of these comments. -When did I say I don't think you or your family have inherent value? If you read any of my other comments in this thread, you would see that I believe in the value of ALL of humanity, as it says in the Bible that we were ALL created in the image of god, male and female, all races, everyone. I do not deem you or your family undesirables because I know nothing about them. These assumptions you are making about me are completely unfounded. -I am gonna take a guess, this could be wrong, but I am pretty sure you came to all these nasty assumptions about me due to the fact I said I was completely against all immigration? Being against that does not mean I am condemning all non-Americans as undesirables, it simply means I want best for the current population that is already here, like you and your family. The number one victim of open border loose immigration policies are the Working Class and poor Americans, this is an empirical fact. The number one winner from open border massive immigration? Billionares, CEO's, Politicians, Wall Street, and the all of the evil globalist capitalist elite who want to exploit cheap immigrant labour so they reduce wages for everyone and line their pockets with more and more money. It's really sad you would assume I support policies that would actually benefit you and your family because I am racist against you and your family, when that couldn't be further from the truth.
benj
2022-11-16 19:52:47 +0000 UTC@Bighead You are clearly a very tolerent and good faith person, I appreciate that. Big ups to your overall mentality about this stuff. -Morality is not subjective in my opinion, there are objective moral values that come from religion, and without religious people who have a spiritual understanding, non-religious people would have no basis for what is good or bad. Morality by definition is a word without meaning, so we religious people give it objective meaning. I do also think there is a correct way to live life, and that is too follow the teachings of Jesus Christ to the best of your ability. -I am not projecting my ideals onto others, I am projecting God's will and what is said in the Bible to be morally good or bad. I did not write the Bible, nor am I god or the son of god. I am simply a humble follower defending my opinions about this stuff to non-believers who disagree with me. I am not attempting to convert any of you, obviously. You can only find God through your own spiritual journey. I respectfully agree to disagree with you and everyone else on here I am talking with, and for the most part this has been a healthy and polite discussion. No problem from me either.
benj
2022-11-16 19:41:54 +0000 UTCSuga is easily in my top 10! And this cast is absolutely STACKED. As someone who has autism in my family and have worked extensively with a whole range of people on the autism spectrum, Kageyama can definitely be coded as autistic. I think there’s plenty of basis to do so.
Sacha
2022-11-16 18:29:38 +0000 UTCFellow Suga fan. :) I hear sometimes people speculate that Kageyama might be somewhere on the autism spectrum, but I'm not anywhere near knowledgeable enough on that to say anything.
Ryan
2022-11-16 18:08:28 +0000 UTChuge yikes
izzy
2022-11-16 17:09:12 +0000 UTCI always love how you can tell from the beginning how differently Kageyama treats his senpais then his peers. The way he talks to Suga, Daichi etc is very different to how he talks to Hinata, Tsukki etc. Sure you can just excuse it as ‘ of course he would treat a senpai respectfully’ but I just think it’s great characterisation for him while we are still getting to know him. He’s a sweet, awkward boy. Also Suga is just the absolute best and I won’t hear otherwise 😄
Sacha
2022-11-16 17:03:49 +0000 UTCOh, and like source 5 states, the increased happiness of one gender that comes with more equality does not come at the expense of the other gender(s). So that's nothing to worry about either!
Donnie Betlem
2022-11-16 16:18:40 +0000 UTC@Benj Japan does show a society that is 'orderly, peaceful, and disciplined'. But when we look at it's happiness stats, it shows us that it has one of the least happy populations in the developed world¹. Happiness and fulfilment count as subjective well-being and things like GDP per capita and life expectancy as objective. Japan ranks amongst the highest in the latter, and lowest in the former (in the developed world). This is like being depressed in a clean, orderly villa. I mean, it's nice having a villa, but I'd personally still rather live in a house that might not be as big, if that means I can life more happily. If I didn't have a house at all, I would almost certainly be less happy than either scenario, so objective well-being is also very important, but there is a limit to its contribution to a happy and [healthy] society. (¹https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/happiest-countries-in-the-world) (They use (https://worldhappiness.report/ed/2021/#appendices-and-data) as their source, but the site allows you to check it out without downloading anything!) I don't think there is a correct way to live life *as long as your way of living has no victims. If you look at it like that things like murder, theft, and other horrible actions are immoral, because it has a victim. Things like being gay, trans, or a woman who is not bound by traditional gender roles do not, and therfore are not immoral. However, LGBT+ folks do tend to be less happy than the average population in most countries², and suicide rates are much higher among this demographic, particularly as teens. Because of this I've seen people claim the victim in being LGBT+ is themselves. 'After all, LGBT youth are 5 times as likely to attempt suicide compared to straight youth!' And while this is true³, the research seems to suggest that this is because of how they are treated rather than something intrinsic about not being hetero or cis⁴. After all, studies show that gay men are much more likely to be happy in countries accepting of at least LBG people, than in countries where they aren't accepted. In fact, the higher the public opinion of these people is on average, the happier they tend to be²! LGBT+ youth with supportive families are also reported to have a suicide attempt rate that was less than half of those without supportive families⁴. So if we want lgbt people to be happier in life, the best thing we can do for them is to accept them. (²https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/05/27/the-countries-where-gay-men-are-the-happiest/ (³https://www.ajpmonline.org/article/S0749-3797(18)32436-X/fulltext) (⁴https://www.thetrevorproject.org/survey-2022/) Countries who expect people to fit into traditional gender roles also tend to have populations with a level of life satisfaction that's much lower on average, Japan is no exception to this. ⁵ (⁵https://genderpolicyreport.umn.edu/gender-equality-supports-happiness/) (This source compares average life satisfaction with gender equality score ('The Gender Empowerment Measure (GEM) is a measure of inequalities between men’s and women’s opportunities in three major areas.'⁶) (⁶https://www.cbs.nl/en-gb/news/2009/27/dutch-women-among-the-most-emancipated-in-europe/gender-empowerment-measure--gem--#:~:text=The%20Gender%20Empowerment%20Measure%20(GEM,and%20senior%20officials%20and%20managers.) And I'm not here to argue with you about religion, but most people who believe in a single God say theirs is THE real one, what makes you believe your God is the real real one? What is the thing that makes your God the real one, and the others just fiction or misguided? Things like religion are a lot harder to argue about, as according to a lot of people (including me so far) it's not really that you can prove definitely does or doesn't exist. So this last one is something I'm just personally curious about :)
Donnie Betlem
2022-11-16 16:09:08 +0000 UTC@benj Responding just because you referenced my comment twice. I’m a black, female, child of immigrants who was born and grew up in one of the most conservative states in the US. So I’m well-trained in clocking dogwhistles from a mile away. Maybe in my younger days I would have felt compelled to engage in debates trying to argue for the inherent value and humanity of people like me, people like my family, and people not like me who you deem “undesirables,” but I’ll let someone else take on that role. Instead, I’d rather send a fun, succinct message emphasizing my distaste for your beliefs/opinions and leave it there.
Tope
2022-11-16 14:35:14 +0000 UTC@benj I deleted my previous comment since I realised I didn't want to insert myself into this conversation after the fact. But since you took the time to reply to me, I'll just clarify my points. 1. I'll be open to admit that calling you defensive and closed off is just my surface level judgement of you through your comments. I might be right or wrong, but as you said that's just my opinion/perception of you at this moment in time and isn't really a fact. So it's great to know you like your views being challenged and are open to change. 2. I do realise morality is subjective and ever changing. But I'm sure it's a given in this day and age that murder, theft and the plenty of "other horrible" things you mentioned are morally wrong and condemned as should be. You call it "horrible things" because you inherently understand that it's horrible, i.e cause of horror. I hope we can at least agree on that. I think there are certain things we know to be morally right and wrong, and certain things morally grey, that changes from one situation to another. And when someone says "There's no correct way to live life" it just means our lives are a culmination of rights, wrongs, ups and downs. There isn't really a step by step guide to living life. We all live our lives on our own terms. You just blew the statement out of proportion and turned it into a morality question. 3. Coming to if I think all individuals know what is right and wrong, obviously not all. But as you said yourself, right and wrong is also subjective and changes with people, culture, environment and other factors. What I do believe in is that it's not our place to decide for people if how they're living their lives is right or wrong in accordance to our biases. Hence why I have a problem with you projecting your ideals onto others. 4. This whole conversation comes down to something you said- "I do however think those three groups of people you have listed have gone against the natural and correct path of life in how the world is intended to work, which is a bad thing for not only greater society but also a bad thing for those people themselves." You say you don't pass judgement, but this statement doesn't just pass judgement but also seems to almost antagonize (whether you intended it to or not) the groups you speak of, because they operate against your version of "how the world is intended to work." At the end of the day, we're all allowed to have our opinions and live by our values as long as our actions and beliefs don't affect other people negatively. We both have opposing beliefs and think we're right, just another example of how subjective "right" is. As long as you can respectfully agree to disagree and have a healthy conversation about it, I see no problem.
Bighead
2022-11-16 10:11:13 +0000 UTC@Winnie The classic "You mad" arguement lmfao my fav. I've actually been laughing, smiling, and enjoying this discussion the entire time. But you have no idea how I feel right now unless you're staring at me through my computer screen. Its pretty much impossible to tell the real emotions of what a person is feeling through text because its text, not face to face. Even if I was mad, you would have nothing to support your claim. I also don't believe in conversion therapy, again just making assumptions about what I believe. Yeah, I've never done any actual research into any of this stuff, I just say random shit and believe whatever the last thing I read online was, you got me there. Anime doesn't just sometimes lean towards conservative values, the majority of the time it leans towards conservative values. Why are you so unwilling to accept this basic fact? Is it because your insecure that your favorite medium of art is actually mostly right-wing and upholds traditional values you disagree with? Because thats what it sounds like. My god is the one and only true god, sure other people can believe in other things, but my God is real nonetheless. I don't think people should follow the guidelines of Christ because I follow the guidelines of Christ, that doesn't make any sense and I never said anything like that in this thread. I believe people should follow the guidelines of christ because they are righteous, holy, and beneficial to all of humanity.
benj
2022-11-16 09:51:18 +0000 UTC@benj Wow, you’re really mad. So, to close this topic, let’s combine our definitions then, shall we? Anime is a medium of storytelling that encompasses any and all cartoons that are made by art studios that exist in Japan that are almost entirely made up of ethnically Japanese employees. See how that literally doesn’t change anything? Because that wasn’t the point of what I said. I said that you can’t box art in. Just because sometimes it leans towards conservative values, that doesn’t mean that all anime does that. Is that more clear? No, I don’t think either viewpoint is “wrong”, just that they both have flaws. It’s okay to not have a definitive answer to complicated problems, and for things to be up in the air. And, yes your views are unsavory. It’s not just an opinion because people who are gay and trans cannot change who they are. It is a fundamental aspect of reality, no matter how much you disagree. They are only suffering because people like you think that them existing as themselves is destroying their lives. Conversion therapy and the like don’t work, fyi. Trust me, they don’t want your backhanded compassion. They’re not going to be happier or live better lives by pretending to be something that they’re not. There are countless studies that prove this, I highly encourage you to do some actual research. And lastly, my god you went off the rails. I really didn’t think I’d need to specify “within reason” to my point about no correct way of living, but here we are. No, I don’t think killing people is right. Is that what you wanted to hear? My point is that there is no set “path” because we all make our own. You can bring God up as much as you like, but your god isn’t the same as everyone else’s, nor does everyone even believe in him. Just because you follow these guidelines doesn’t mean that everyone else should. And it doesn’t automatically mean that it’s harmful. Take care and don’t pop a blood vessel.
Winnie
2022-11-16 09:36:12 +0000 UTC@Bighead I am not defensive or closed off to opposing views at all, if I was, why would I be reading and responding to all these people disagreeing with me? In fact I love getting my viewpoints challanged as thats how I learn new things and change my opinions on topics, like how any free thinking person does. Do you really believe ALL individuals know what is right and wrong? That is an unbelievably optimistic outlook on humanity, that all 8 billion human beings have the same correct understanding of what is right and wrong. I am not passing those judgements, god is. God is the only one who makes the final decision for all people. Instead of saying there is more nuance to an idea, explain why the extreme that I took it too is incorrect. If there is truly NO correct way to live life, than that also means there is no incorrect way to live life, meaning that you could justify murder, theft, and plenty of other horrible things by saying, "Well there is no correct way for me to live! When I steal from people, it makes my life happier! So how can it be bad?". In my opinion, my perspective on that idea is a lot more nuanced than yours, which is that there is no objective morality.
benj
2022-11-16 09:10:15 +0000 UTC@Winnie Exceptions to the rule does not break the rule itself. Yes, there are aspects of Japan that are not completely conservative or traditional, just like how there is a ton of anime that is not completely conservative or traditional (The high levels of sexualization being the biggest example of that). But, that does not change the fact that most anime does uphold conservative values, I was not intending to group all anime into one exact worldview, but that the vast majority of popular anime does fit into that worldview, which is true. -You think whole over the individual is wrong, and than the Individual over the whole is also wrong. So what do you believe than? You can't have neither, there is no perfect 50/50 split between Collectivism and Individualism. That's a utopian fairy dream. -Anime is not just a medium for storytelling. By the mainstream popular definition, anime is any and all Cartoons that are made by art studios that exist in Japan that are almost entirely made up of ethnically Japanese employees. -My views on those groups are "unsavory" in your opinion, thats subjective. They are not unsavory from my perspective. You brought up how I said that it is bad for themselves, which literally means that I want them to be happier and live better lives, which clearly is not an unsavory opinion. If I truly hated these people, I would be happy that they were destroying their own lives and would smile at them while suffering, but in fact I want them no longer to suffer. It is only a contradiction to you because of your own personal opinions, it is not an objective contradiction, and my refusal to admit that it isn't doesn't prove you right. -If there is no correct way to live, than lets just start killing each other right? If there is no way the world is supposed to work, than lets just start pillaging, killing, and stealing from each other! Because why not! There is no correct or incorrect, there is no objective morality, we are just a bunch of atoms and nothing matters, so lets just do whatever! Right?
benj
2022-11-16 08:32:28 +0000 UTC@Winnie Haha, if you ever stumble into me again in Patreon comment section, you can address me as Senni (which is my actual given name). 'Ruma' literally stands for 'ugly' in finnish 😝
Ruma Risto
2022-11-16 08:23:21 +0000 UTC@Ryan Well Economically speaking I am much more left leaning, and I do know that about Miyazaki, although I am most definitely not a Marxist. Conservatism and modern-day Free Market Capitalism have nothing in common. American conservatives have been brainwashed into supporting open unregulated free markets even though the forces that support those economic policies are anti-Christ and anti-Conservative values. I am also totally anti-War and anti-Militarism and I love Miyazaki's films for those viewpoints that he has. I am also an Environmentalist and I love Princess Mononoke specifically because it is a pro-Environmental film while also being a pro-Human film, even pro-Industry. -In terms of gender roles, sure you can bring up Naruto which I haven't seen but I'll take your word that it is that, but you and I both know the vast majority of popular anime have female characters that are purely supportive of their male counterparts and take on the caregiver and romantic role of the series. Sure, there are always going to be exceptions. -I knew someone was gonna bring up Yuri and Yaoi anime, and yes while those genres do exist and I am completely aware of it, it only takes a quick moment looking at MAL (the largest anime database in the world) to find out that the most popular and the most highly rated Yuri and Yaoi anime don't even break into the top 200 of either popularity or score (score being based on user-based quality ranking). If you were new to anime and decided you were going to watch the 150 most popular anime ever made and the 150 most highly rated anime ever made, you would end up not watching a single Yuri or Yaoi show. -With the diversity point I was making, I said that I was mostly focusing on the lack of diversity shown in Slice of Life anime due to the fact SoL shows take place literally in what is supposed to be a realistic Japanese world. Out of the 125 million people currently living in Japan, 98% of them are ethnically Japanese. The country also happens to have some of the lowest crime rates in the entire world, and is overall known for its cleanliness, orderly, and disciplined society. I don't think this is a coincidence. I agree most anime don't just fall on one side of the spectrum or the other, I do think however that because the vast majority of the people making anime are ethnically Japanese people who are born and raised in the conservative traditional country of Japan, those perspectives and viewpoints naturally come out into the art they are making without even thinking about it. You don't find "wokeism" or forced diversity in anime because most people in Japan don't believe in these radical modern western beliefs, not yet anyways. Thank you for the well written and insightful comment as expected from you Ryan. These types of replies are so much more productive and interesting than people just saying "yikes" or making nasty assumptions of my political beliefs, like that I believe in Ethno States like Hitler did or something.
benj
2022-11-16 08:13:55 +0000 UTC@Ruma 😳 omg did we just become besties? Well, Ben you did something right, I guess lol
Winnie
2022-11-16 07:52:25 +0000 UTC@benj I'm not a historian by any means, but I think I can speak to the factual claims here. I think that *any* representative survey of popular fiction broadly, or Japanese anime/manga specifically, would conclude that there's pretty much the full gamut from right-wing nationalist propaganda to Neo-Marxist Luddite treatises, and everything in between. "Globalism" doesn't neatly split right/left in Japan, either, so whether series lean more towards isolationism or globalism will vary greatly, too. There are plenty of famous examples of series that are clearly not right-wing or conservative either in the Japanese sense or in an American Evangelical sense in the domains you mentioned: - Economic Conservatism and Militarism (Studio Ghibli as a whole is famously left-wing, openly pacifist, anti-fascist. Miyazaki is openly Marxist.) - Complementarianism in gender roles (Naruto and Fullmetal Alchemist both are cited frequently as examples of egalitarian depictions, but again, Ghibli is just as relevant here) - Heteronormative (more obvious mainstream series would include Sailor Moon, but "BL," "Yuri," "Yaoi," and "Bara" are entire genres with their own sub-markets) - Ethno-nationalist and Anti-Diversity (the most on-the-nose counterexample is probably MHA, following pretty closely in the footsteps of X-Men (which Horikoshi cites often) in explicitly promoting acceptance of those who differ as not just necessary but also desirable) Obviously, those examples or any number of examples don't make anime "left-wing," either. The field is as diverse as the people who work in it. Most series don't really fall on the spectrum one way or the other, and there are some series like Attack on Titan and GATE that are more-or-less openly right-wing nationalist. I'm obviously not trying to say whether any of this is "good" or "bad." That's above my pay grade, and frankly, I don't think that's an interesting or helpful question. But I'd be careful about how much you're gleaning *from* the data available as opposed to how much you're reading *into* it.
Ryan
2022-11-16 07:52:03 +0000 UTC@ Winnie Why aren't we friends already 😅 You literally said everything I was trying to type but worded it better
Ruma Risto
2022-11-16 07:40:03 +0000 UTC@benj So to start off, as for the Demon Slayer comments, I was there when they were released and read all of them already. Some people were speaking in bad faith, sure but a majority of people were criticizing the fact that Nezuko was written to be an unspeaking moe-type character. You can argue that her lack of focus is a part of that, but I believe that it would be a moot point. Now, I have honestly no idea where to go from here because yeah, yikes is right. Anime does not destroy the idea that diversity is a strength. First and foremost, it is a form of art. I firmly believe that trying to encompass an entire art form into saying that every single work does the same thing is incredibly limiting and ignorant. The same goes for encompassing an entire nation, when it has been pointed out so many times that the “whole over the individual” basis for existing has its own flaws. Same with the US’s “individual over the whole” approach. Anime as a whole is not fundamentally right wing. It’s not anything. It’s just a medium for storytelling. Quite a lot of them do uphold conservative values, yes but not every single one of them, my god. It’s a really big pet peeve of mine when people try to put entire art movements into boxes. As for all of the other stuff in your comment…no words. I was actually going to write something else out, but then I saw your comment about how trans, gay, and feminists are going against the “natural and correct path” of life. You say you don’t have any unsavory views towards them, but also say that it is bad for themselves, and society. Blatant contradiction, even if you refuse to admit it. There’s no point in arguing anymore, but there is no “correct” way to live. There is no way the world is “intended” to work. People are people, and deserve to live their lives without others telling them that they’re going to ruin society bc they like to kiss boys. Your religion is not the only one in the world, nor does it need to be inserted everywhere and applied to people who don’t follow it. Thank you, though, for confirming every suspicion that I’ve had of you from all the comments you’ve left. Have a good day.
Winnie
2022-11-16 07:36:59 +0000 UTC@Kaedjik No I am not a believer in ethnostates, I am however completely against immigration. Those are two totally different things. I don't have unsavory views on any of those people, we are all created in the image of God and I have love for all groups of people just like Christ did. I do however think those three groups of people you have listed have gone against the natural and correct path of life in how the world is intended to work, which is a bad thing for not only greater society but also a bad thing for those people themselves. I agree minority groups deserve to be treated better, frankly, almost everyone in our current society deserves to be treated better bar the billionares, politicians, and elite class. Godlessness and unregulated Free Market Capitalism has destroyed the world as we know it, and its only getting worse.
benj
2022-11-16 07:19:41 +0000 UTCI can probably guess what mask-off is for you based on your last comment. You probably have some unsavory views about gay people, trans people, and women (or anyone) who are feminist. Maybe you pigeonholed yourself into your views by getting mad at the most loud/annoying/extreme people. Most people with "Western" or left-leaning views just want minority groups to be treated better. Since you seem to dislike diversity, I'm assuming you like ethnostates?
Kaedjik
2022-11-16 07:14:12 +0000 UTC@Tope Care to pick out which part is big yikes? Or explain why thats your reaction to my comment? Actually curious.
benj
2022-11-16 07:03:55 +0000 UTCbenj has gone mask-off, Jesus
Kaedjik
2022-11-16 06:59:10 +0000 UTC😳 big yikes
Tope
2022-11-16 06:45:47 +0000 UTC@Winnie If you need real examples, go read the Demon Slayer patreon reaction comment sections on here. You will find dozens of women complaining about how Nezuko barely gets any character focus and how thats an awful thing the show did.
benj
2022-11-16 06:39:33 +0000 UTC@Ruma @Winnie I am aware this is going to be controversial because this is 2022, but one of my favorite parts of anime is the fact that female characters are written to uphold traditional gender roles and conservative values. Japan is a very conservative country that is ruthlessly pragmatic in maintaining its own culture, and I think anime is fundamentally right-wing. There is no radical feminism or any of this globalist modernist garbage we see dominating current Western media. There is barely any focus on homosexuality, transgenderism, or female "empowerment". A lot of anime (particularly slice of life anime) displays a homogenous society that is orderly, peaceful, and disciplined. Anime/Japan completely destroys the concept of diversity as a strength.
benj
2022-11-16 06:35:37 +0000 UTC@benj Interestingly enough, I’ve found that the criticism was more about the writing of the female characters rather than the focus. Again, just because a show is categorized as a certain genre, that doesn’t excuse bad writing. Yes, I agree not every show need to be about both male and female characters. However, if a writer creates characters and doesn’t use them to their full potential, then what was the point? And not every character will be a major player, but they should still be utilized as much as they can be. At least that’s my personal belief on that matter. Do you have any real examples of things people said regarding criticisms of focus? Because I would be glad to read them. And I’m genuinely not trying to be rude here, but I wanted to preface the “don’t start fighting” because you have a history of getting somewhat hostile in the comments and I wanted to avoid that as much as possible.
Winnie
2022-11-16 06:24:21 +0000 UTC@benj I think it's more about the representation. If women are continuously portrayed as physically attractive but characteristically flat supporting figures without their own agency, it tends to give the (male) target audience a very twisted and toxic picture about women in general. Art always reflects reality and poor female presentation in media enhances the objectification and belittling of women (and gender/sexual minorities). Again, Haikyuu does a good job with everything. It eventually fleshes out pretty much every single character. The glasses are my favorites. Bought them at a summer rock festival called "Ruisrock" a couple of years back.
Ruma Risto
2022-11-16 06:18:57 +0000 UTCName a Better duo, benj and hilariously long patreon reply chains where I get ratio'd every time
benj
2022-11-16 06:10:17 +0000 UTC@Winnie Amen
Ruma Risto
2022-11-16 06:06:01 +0000 UTC@Winnie I never said women are saying they want anime to only focus on female characters, I said not every show needs to always be about BOTH Female characters and Male characters. I have come across many Western Female anime fans IRL, on this patreon, and many other internet spaces, where they critique shounen anime for not having a focus on female characters. Again, not ONLY a focus on female characters, but a focus on both female and male characters. Also how is this a fight, we are just going back and forth on our opinions on a TV show, why should I not reply to your reply to my reply? No personal insults have been exchanged, we aren't literally punching each other in the face, this isn't a fight nor did I start one. Did you start a fight with me by replying to my comment disagreeing with it and explaining why I'm wrong? I don't think you did, but than I go and do the same thing to you and you say I'm starting a fight? Ok. Funny how you apologize for being condescending and than proceed to be condescending in the very next sentance lmfao.
benj
2022-11-16 06:04:59 +0000 UTC@benj Idk man, I’ve yet to come across a single woman who wants anime to only focus on female characters, even in my inner circles. “I wish this show would treat its female characters better” =|= “I want all anime to focus on female characters only” is the conflation I often see. Just because a show is meant for a certain demographic doesn’t mean you can have bad writing. But again, no one was criticizing Haikyuu’s writing. And also, I said the show makes space for the new characters when they’re introduced. Nowhere did I say that there was a lot of focus. Im sorry if I came off as condescending, and Iunderstand you said you were sick and all, but please don’t start a fight over an innocuous comment.
Winnie
2022-11-16 05:56:52 +0000 UTC@Ruma I like your shades 😎 lookin' swag
benj
2022-11-16 05:55:02 +0000 UTC@Winnie It was actually so obvious your comment wasn't meant for me :D Sorry.
Ruma Risto
2022-11-16 05:52:12 +0000 UTC@Ruma Gotcha, thats what I thought as well. Goodwin hasn't ever really made that critique of lack of female characters, hes never had an issue with that for the most part. Sorry Again for misunderstanding the intention of your comment.
benj
2022-11-16 05:44:50 +0000 UTC@Winnie The original comment said "Don't worry" Implying that Goodwin and Ruma (who has now said she wasn't saying that seriously, hence understanding why I made the comment that I did) thought it was a bad thing there wasnt really a focus on female characters, which is why I jumped to the conclusion that people think shounen anime also need to focus on female characters or else thats a bad thing, which a lot of female anime fans ive seen online do think. its one of the most popular critiques of shounen anime among female fans.
benj
2022-11-16 05:43:48 +0000 UTC@Ruma lol my bad my comment was meant for Ben, I just forgot the @
Winnie
2022-11-16 05:42:08 +0000 UTC@Winnie I know. I just wanted to comment. And again, I don't mind the male-focused storytelling. I love Haikyuu. After all, this is a story about highschool boys' volleyball team.
Ruma Risto
2022-11-16 05:40:09 +0000 UTC@benj I don't think he was criticizing the scarcity of female characters either and I wasn't being dead serious when I said "don't worry" :D. I don't want to spoil anything but season 2 WILL introduce one of my favorite characters (a female one) whose interactions with Kiyoko are beyond adorable.
Ruma Risto
2022-11-16 05:37:18 +0000 UTCYeah it does make space for the new characters introduced next season lol. No, Alex didn’t complain he just made a quip about how there are very few women in the show this far, it’s fine. Everyone knows the genre, and nobody was saying every show needs to only focus on female characters idk why you felt the need to jump to a conclusion like that when you said you hadn’t even watched the video.
Winnie
2022-11-16 05:36:13 +0000 UTCDoes it though? And was Goodwin criticizing the lack of female characters in this show... I haven't watched the reaction yet but its a Shounen (type of anime specifically made for young male japanese teenagers) sports anime centered around a Boys Volleyball high school team. Not every show has to have both, movies/TV can be mostly entirely focused on all females, or vice versa, I just want good writing, good storytelling, real passionate art. And Haikyuu is all of those things, so who cares about their not being female characters, the show is about a Boys volleyball team, it would be worse if they focused on females who aren't on the team taking away from the point of the show. Sorry for the long reply to your short comment lmao its just that this conversation comes up on almost every single anime Goodwin reacts to (especially the Shounens) and it just doesn't make sense to me.
benj
2022-11-16 04:56:00 +0000 UTCDon't worry. Season 2 will give more room for the female characters!
Ruma Risto
2022-11-16 03:40:52 +0000 UTCin Kaguya Sama there's a hilarious moment where Shirogane and Papa Shirogane are making Kei mad with nagging her and they both start eating and go "mogu mogu" in unison its amazing. Never knew the meaning of them saying mogu mogu, but I always thought it was hilarious. Japanese is such a fantastic language. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlbf-6-OBQE
benj
2022-11-16 02:47:56 +0000 UTCForgot! But for Chris Sharpe especially, 13:20 "mogu mogu" is, obviously, the Japanese sound word equivalent of "nom nom nom"
Ryan
2022-11-16 02:34:09 +0000 UTCHave you slept? It's like... 8 in the morning in Korea and you posted this earlier than that... Please take care of all your organs, not just the heart and gall bladder.
Ryan
2022-11-16 00:30:37 +0000 UTCI relate to Hinata's anxiety so hard. I would get so nervous before a game because the anxiety of messing up was too much. I didn't like the idea of anything being my fault and costing us a point. The only way I got through it was by getting into a rhythm. It totally changes how you feel about your playing. I once got spiked in the face going for cover and ended up saving the ball. I would have never saved it had I been scared of everything and letting the smallest mistakes get to me. But we'll see how Hinata handles his pre-game jitters.
Athena
2022-11-16 00:22:36 +0000 UTCI have watched 3 full length Goodwin videos today... and now I shall watch a 4th. Great content for the last couple days with me being sick with the flu... at the exact same time my family and I are moving to a new house! Incredible timing.
benj
2022-11-16 00:11:54 +0000 UTCWhy does that show sound so familiar... New goal in life is to work on the size of my gall bladder
Alex G
2022-11-15 23:53:46 +0000 UTCNew character's name: Takeda-sensei's name is "Takeda Ittetsu." Bear with me (sorry), but there's a famous TV show about an amazing teacher in a rough school with troubled kids called "Mr. Kinpachi of Class 3B." It ran for more than 3 decades, and it's not an exaggeration to say that it's how many Japanese people were first introduced to conversations about issues like teenage pregnancy, homosexuality, gender dysphoria, drug abuse, and so on. Many people think of the teacher, Mr. Kinpachi, as the ideal teacher role-model, and the actor who played him is named Takeda Tetsuya, hence the teacher's name in Haikyuu. (Not similar personalities; only really commonality is "teacher who cares about his students as people first") "Cowards" is probably as close as we're going to get in English to the word from the title, but the word Suga uses to describe himself and Hinata is 小心者, "shoushinmono," or "small-hearted-people." The idea is, the smaller your heart, the more easily you'll be discouraged / affected / freaked out by other things. Funnily enough, the "opposite" of small-hearted in Japanese is "big-gall-bladdered" (大胆), haha, but that's someone who's able to take any setbacks in stride and just bravely carry on. 6:08 Small detail, but I like how both Hinata and Kageyama try to hand in the application politely, but mess it up in different ways. It's "supposed" to be with both hands, oriented so that Daichi could read it, but they get one part of that wrong each.
Ryan
2022-11-15 23:52:09 +0000 UTCWe, in the Haikyuu community, like to refer to Daichi as Dad-chi and Suga as Mama Suga or Sugamama because of their parental personalities. I'm sure you're getting that sense too since you've already identified Tanaka as the big brother type.
Athena
2022-11-15 23:49:49 +0000 UTCloving these reactions cant wait for later episodes
M2GZ
2022-11-15 22:43:19 +0000 UTC
