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Episode 34: A GAME OF THRONES, CATELYN VI: "Mountain High, Valley Low"

Hello and welcome to the Not A Cast … podcast: the one true chapter-by-chapter podcast going through A Song of Ice and Fire one chapter a week. I’m one of your hosts Jeff better known as BryndenBFish. 

And I’m your other host Emmett, better known as PoorQuentyn. 

Welcome to our thirty-fourth episode of the Not A Cast entitled: “Mountain High, Valley Low: An Analysis of AGOT, Catelyn VI,” in which Catelyn Stark makes it out of the Mountains of the Moon to the Vale proper...only to have to climb yet another mountain. She just can’t win, despite doing nothing wrong, ever. This episode is brought to you all by our Lords Commander Mark N, Timothy W, Hayden J and WolfmanZack. Thank you, gentlemen!

Spoiler warning: All published books - 5 novels, 3 Dunk and Egg novellas, histories, interviews, TWOW sample chapters, as well as Game of Thrones the TV show. Anything and everything!

Question

Initial Reactions to the Fire and Blood sample. Talk about our patreon plans in November with a full-out review of F&B. And also the GRRM event in Jersey City on November 19th.

Ser Grant the Scribe asks:

What curveballs do you think George will throw into TWOW? Like Quentyn & Aegon in Dance… think we get unexpected

Synopsis

Ser Donnel Waynwood gives Catelyn Stark a chilly greeting, letting her know that she should have sent word that they were coming, and, oh, BTW, did you know that the high road is not safe anymore? Yeah. I think Catelyn knows. 6 men had died bringing her nearly to the Bloody Gate. But it’s more sad than even that. Her memories of them were fading. She was having a hard time recalling their names. But the danger had made it hard to remember anything.

In fact, they had thought that Donnel’s party was their doom. Instead they’d been their salvation. Donnel ruminates on how he’d take 100 knights up into the mountains to teach the clansmen a “sharp lesson”, but Lysa has forbidden her knights from leaving the Vale of Arryn. And Donnel really isn’t quite sure why they’re all up there, doing nothing. What are they defending the Vale from?

Catelyn thinks that it’s the Lannisters, but she keeps her tongue about her. She glances behind and sees Tyrion and Bronn behind them. The dwarf had survived the journey and proved cunningtoo. And she’s troubled by Bronn’s companionship with Tyrion. But now 40 men are around Catelyn’s now-smaller party. Still, Tyrion seemed strangely unafraid.

Could I be wrong? Catelyn wonders not for the first time. Could he be innocent after all, of Bran and Jon Arryn and all the rest? And if he was, what did that make her? Six men had died to bring him here.

But she pushes her doubts away, telling Donnel that she needs Maester Colemon to treat the wounds of Ser Rodrik. Well, that’s not going to fly. Colemon has been ordered to remain at the Eyrie, but a Septon is at the Bloody Gate. He can tend Ser Rodrik. But though Catelyn was wary of the power of prayer in healing Ser Rodrik, she doesn’t see an alternative. 

Up ahead, the Bloody Gate looms against a narrow pass in the mountains. A knight rides out from the gate with a cloak of Tully red and blue and a shiny black fish in gold and obsidian pinning the cloak at the shoulder. The badass, amazing knight asks who’s attempting to pass the Bloody Gate. Donnel says it’s a-me Donnel Waynwoodio and also Catelyn Stark and her companions.

The man lifts his visor and speaks with a hoarse, smoky voice. I thought the lady looked familiar. You are far from home, Little Cat.

That voice belongs to none other than Ser Brynden Tully, Catelyn’s uncle. She smiles, telling him that Brynden’s home is in her heart. She asks that he remove his helmet. He does, warning her that age hasn’t improved his appearance. But he’s lying. Though he’s older with grey hair that replaced his auburn, he still looks the gallant man Catelyn had last seen him as.

Brynden asks if Cat has sent word to Lysa. No. There wasn’t enough time. But, uh, she’s bringing the storm anyways. Sorry about that. Donnel asks if they can pass, and Brynden gives them entry. As they cross the gate, we get some backstory on the bloody gate: a dozen armies had dashed themselves against the Bloody Gate. Hm, potential for some interesting stuff there. We’ll get to that!

Beyond the gate, Catelyn sees a wide valley open up. It’s lush, green and bordered by tall mountains. And though the land was at a high elevation, it was still a fertile land. Catelyn stops to admire the scene before her, and Brynden comes up and points out where the Eyrie is. Way up there in the mountains. And then we get Catelyn’s poetic side:

Seven towers, Ned had told her, like white daggers thrust into the belly of the sky, so high you can stand on the parapets and look down on the clouds.

You get the real sense that George is in love with this place, because he is really going to indulge in his descriptions in this chapter. Brynden states that they can be up to the base of the mountain by evening but warns it would take another day to get all the way up the Eyrie. Rodrik informs everyone that he’s too wounded to go further. So, Catelyn gives him leave to remain at the Bloody Gate and rest up. Brynden, Catelyn and Tyrion will head on up. Actually, scratch that. Marillion wants to come too. Oh, and yeah. Bronn too. He’s #InIt2WinIt. Catelyn sighs at all of them and agrees to their company. Fresh mounts gotten, the party sets off for the Eyrie. 

As they progress, Brynden asks Catelyn about this so-called storm she’s bringing, and Catelyn tells all. Brynden listens silently, his frown spreading across his face. This leads Catelyn to give us some Brynden Tully backstory. Five years younger than Hoster, he’d been fighting his brother since as long as Catelyn can remember. Catelyn remembers how he got his “Blackfish” moniker. It came when Hoster and Brynden were arguing, and Hoster declared that Brynden was the black goat of House Tully, and Brynden had replied that a black fish would be more fitting. He’d taken the personal coat of arms since that day. The two brothers had only reconciled at Lysa’s wedding to Jon Arryn when Brynden announced that he would heading out to serve Lysa at Riverrun. Hoster and Brynden hadn’t spoken since.

Your father must be told. If the Lannisters should march, Winterfell is remote, and the Vale walled up behind its mountains, but Riverrun lies right in their path.

Catelyn had similar fears. And what’s the mood of the Vale? she asks her uncle. Everyone is angry. It’s not just that they’re pissed about Jaime being named Warden of the East. They also think that Jon Arryn was murdered -- though they’re not saying it out loud. And then there’s Sweetrobin.

He’s 6, sickly and perhaps too weak to take his father’s seat as Lord Arryn. Worse still, Lysa isn’t helping things. She’s holding out on a potential new marriage for some odd reason. And while no one can fault her, Brynden believes that Lysa is playing at being open to marriage. Perhaps she intends to Cersei it on up in the Eyrie and rule in her son’s name before he reaches his maturation.

But that’s not all that’s going wrong in the Vale. Lysa is cray. Her marriage wasn’t happy and she’d had stillborns and miscarriages. And she only lives for that sickly child and is always afraid for him -- afraid of what the Lannisters are up to or something. Oh, and you brought a Lannister to her doorstep. Not great, Catelyn. And your protests that he’s here as a captive are belied by the fact that he’s holding an axe.

But then we’re back on the road and finally in the valley. And up ahead, the Gates of the Moon loom. By the time they make it there though, it’s dark. But no worries. They sent someone ahead, and they can be let up, but before that, look up Catelyn. Aw yeah, it’s time for George to describe some shit.

Catelyn raised her eyes, up and up and up. At first, all she saw was stone and trees, the looming mass of the great mountain shrouded in night, as black as a starless sky. Then she noticed the glow of distant fires well above them; a tower keep, built upon the steep side of mountain, its lights like orange eyes staring down from above.

Just gorgeous, George. You get a cookie. Tyrion’s also looking up:

The Arryns must not be overfond of company. If you’re planning to make us climb that mountain the dark, I’d rather you kill me here.

But how will they get up the mountain? Mules up the first part. And then they’ll need to take steps carved into the face of the mountain. After that, they’ll need to go by foot or basket up the last bit of the way. Tyrion says that he’ll go by foot if Catelyn is planning to go that route. He’s got that Lannister pride. That provokes and angry retort from Catelyn that it’s not pride. It’s arrogance. Tyrion shoots back that he’s not arrogant. That’s Jaime. Whereas, he’s as innocent as a little lamb.

But the drawbridge comes down, and Lord Nestor Royce, High Steward of the Vale and Keeper of the Gates of the Moon greets them. Catelyn asks for Nestor’s hospitality. He gives it. But, uh, yeah, Lysa wants you to head up the Eyrie quick fast and in a hurry. In the fucking dark? Brynden asks. That’s madness. They’ll break their necks.

The mules know the way, Ser Brynden, a 17 year old girl says, stepping out from the dark and into our hearts.

Aw yeah. It’s Mya Stone. She’ll get Catelyn up, no worries. Her boyfriend Mychel says that Mya is half a goat. And she hasn’t failed Nestor Royce yet.

Well, Catelyn will trust Mya then. Tyrion will remain with Nestor. Anyways, they’re off after that. Up through pines and … hey Catelyn, don’t hold the reins of the mule so tight. And no, we won’t hold torches. They just blind the mules. 

But time for a little love chat. Who’s that Mychel, Catelyn asks. He’s Mya’s one true love. He’s Mychel of House Redfort. Well, Catelyn engages in a little mix of class snobbery and realism. She can’t marry Mychel. He’s of a higher social class and old houses don’t marry bastards. But Catelyn thinks that Mya talking about Mychel sounds familiar. She sounds like Sansa.

But we’re back to ascending the dark mountain. Catelyn grows more afraid, but the mules prove surefooted. And then we’re up to our next way-castle known as Stone. Inside, skewers of meat and onions are brought to her, and she eats. They receive new mounts, and they’re off again. But because this is getting a bit long, let’s just sketch out a few details until Catelyn gets into the Eyrie:

Sorry, there’s a lot of beautiful imagery in the scenes, but this is a loooooooonnnnnnnnnnng chapter! Okay. So in the Eyrie, Catelyn is greeted by Vardis Eadon who says that he’ll send word to rouse Lysa. Vardis escorts Catelyn to Lysa who’s awaiting Catelyn in her solar.

Lysa pretends to be happy to see Catelyn, but Catelyn sees that the five years since she last saw her sister have been rough to her. Lysa had grown heavy and pale while her blue eyes are rummy and never still. Catelyn lies and says that Lysa looks well but tired. Lysa notices the others around her and dismisses them.

And then Lysa goes apeshit on Cat. She yells at Catelyn, demanding to know why Catelyn has brought her quarrels with the Lannisters to the Vale. Catelyn is mystified. Well, goddamn, they’re only my quarrels, because you sent that fucking letter, Lysa. You know the one. The one where you said Jon Arryn had been poisoned. That ain’t Lysa’s story. According to Lysa, she sent the letter to warn Catelyn to stay away from the quarrels of Westeros. Shitty way of warning the Starks to stay away, Lysa. 

But Lysa is interrupted from speaking further by the appearance of the Lord of the Eyrie. Robert “Sweetrobin” Arryn enters the scene and immediately shows us that not all kids are cute. Sick, weak and trembling, Lysa introduces him to Catelyn, saying that this is the kid that Jon Arryn was talking about when he was saying “The seed is strong.”

Uh, sure. Anyways, we should really get back to the Lannisters. They could … Not in front of the baby! But, Lysa, he’s not just a kid. He’s the Lord of the Eyrie. There’s no time for delicacy. The Lannisters are … Quiet! You’re scaring him!

Good Lord, Lysa. Catelyn is angry and rightfully so. Shit is fucked up in Westeros, and the Vale is in the hands of this kid? It’s troubling. But let’s get bizarre shall we? Lysa pops her breast out of her gown, and Robert Arryn begins feeding at Lysa’s breast. Oh man. This is weirder and worse than Catelyn thought. And though Lysa’s all We’re safe here, Catelyn knows better. No one is safe from the Lannisters.

But what is Lysa to do with Tyrion Lannister now that Catelyn has so rudely brought the child to the Vale? Sweetrobin asks if he’s a bad man. When Lysa replies in the affirmative, Sweetrobin has a thought:

Make him fly.

Perhaps they would, Lysa assures the boy.

And that is AGOT, Catelyn VI: a long chapter, full of glorious worldbuilding and fucked up character moments with Lysa and Sweetrobin. What did you think, Emmett? 

Depth

Catelyn VI is something of an oddball. All of her chapters to date have been fairly plot-centric: the death of Jon Arryn in Catelyn I, Lysa’s accusation that the Lannisters killed him in Catelyn II, the catspaw attack in Catelyn III, Littlefinger framing Tyrion for it in Catelyn IV, and Catelyn snatching up Tyrion in response in Catelyn V. This one, as you say, is far more focused on worldbuilding and character introductions, but it does so in such exquisite fashion that I wouldn’t call it a step down. Like the earlier chapters in the book introducing us to Winterfell and the Targaryens in exile, GRRM very easily could’ve messed this up, and a lot can only go right later because he pulled this off. [Nerdy rant about which kingdoms get the most chapters here]

"And you, Uncle," she said, smiling despite all she had been through. Hearing that hoarse, smoky voice again took her back twenty years, to the days of her childhood.

Likes/Dislikes

Like: I’d like to take the opportunity for my like of the chapter to hold people to account. So many wrong people holding ugly opinions have this take that AFFC but especially ADWD is just worldbuilding via lavish scene descriptions with little plot progression, and that this was something that came about post-ASOS. Man, are you ever wrong. Here, in this chapter, we get a load of worldbuilding and lavish scene descriptions. But it (much like AFFC/ADWD) works to help set the scene for future plot movement. Moreover, so much of the scene descriptors for this chapter help to create the Vale as a meaningful setting that will be important in both Catelyn/Tyrion’s arc in AGOT as well as Sansa’s AFFC arc.

Dislike: Look, as much as I like this chapter, it’s loooooooooong. I don’t mind long chapters per se, and I think GRRM has a lot of worldbuilding to cover to set the scene for future events, but there’s perhaps some room to cut some fat here. Maybe take the scene descriptors down a notch. Maybe pick the chapter up with Catelyn riding the Vale with Brynden Tully and cut all the Donnel Waynwood stuff. The dude is utterly unimportant to the plot going forward, and he can be name-dropped in a paragraph of retrospect. Again, I don’t mind how descriptive the chapter is, but it’s a touch long for my taste. 

Like: Catelyn and Brynden’s relationship here feels very lived in--you could say “your home is in my heart” is a lil flowery, but it resonates when he leaves the Vale with her to return to the place they were both born, and I love how he both implies that she’s fit to rule while also critiquing how she’s handled Tyrion. The Tullys are ever a politically-minded family, even Edmure in his way. 

Dislike: I feel like GRRM left an arc hanging unresolved here. Catelyn dislikes Mya at first because of an irrational association with Jon-->Mya graciously saves Catelyn’s ass in a humiliating moment for the latter-->Catelyn takes it to heart...which doesn’t happen, she never thinks of it again. Not that GRRM has to have her take it to heart, it just seems to me like that’s where the chapter is going with those first two movements, but doesn’t put the pieces together. 

Foreshadowing/Groundwork

Well would you look at that: “Sometimes she felt as though her heart had turned to stone…”

Six brave men had died to bring her this far, and she could not even find it in her to weep for them. Even their names were fading. 

Similarly, in Ned’s Tower of Joy chapter, the faces of the men who rode with him have faded.

Catelyn notes in this chapter that Chiggen “died” without going into detail, but in Tyrion VI, we get the full story:

"You'd do it in an instant, if it meant your life. You were quick enough to silence your friend Chiggen when he caught that arrow in his belly." Bronn had yanked back the man's head by the hair and driven the point of his dirk in under the ear, and afterward told Catelyn Stark that the other sellsword had died of his wound.

Catelyn is never wrong, part 1 million:

His love she might be, but no Redfort would ever wed a bastard. His family would arrange a more suitable match for him, to a Corbray or a Waynwood or a Royce, or perhaps a daughter of some greater house outside the Vale. If Mychel Redfort laid with this girl at all, it would be on the wrong side of the sheet.

In AFFC, we learn that Mya and Mychel indeed banged on the wrong side of the sheet, but then Mychel had been married off to a Royce:

Myranda edged her mule closer. "You know our Mya's not a maid, I trust?"

She did. Fat Maddy had whispered it to her, one time when Mya brought up their supplies. "Maddy told me."
"Of course she did. She has a mouth as big as her thighs, and her thighs are enormous. Mychel Redfort was the one. He used to be Lyn Corbray's squire. A real squire, not like that loutish lad Ser Lyn's got squiring for him now. He only took that one on for coin, they say. Mychel was the best young swordsman in the Vale, and gallant . . . or so poor Mya thought, till he wed one of Bronze Yohn's daughters. Lord Horton gave him no choice in the matter, I am sure, but it was still a cruel thing to do to Mya."

Also in AFFC, we’ll see an expansion on the Blackfish’s “crows on a battlefield” metaphor, as the lords of the Vale gather at the Eyrie not for marriage but war. 

Theory/Discussion

Given how much worldbuilding and groundwork this chapter does for the Vale of Arryn: where do we see Sansa’s Vale plot going in the books? Who lives, who dies, who tells your story?

So, let’s set the scene by talking through the various characters we see here or will see in AFFC and TWOW:

Let’s talk about the Bloody Gate

The competitors came from all over the Vale, from the mountain valleys and the coast, from Gulltown and the Bloody Gate, even the Three Sisters. (TWOW, Alayne I)

Seems problematic that the bulwark of Vale defense has some of its best fighters at the Tourney of the Winged Knights instead of maintaining a watch, yeah? Wonder who might exploit this?

"Lysa has woes of her own. Clansmen raiding out of the Mountains of the Moon, in greater numbers than ever before . . . and better armed."

"Distressing," said Tyrion Lannister, who had armed them. "I could help her with that. A word from me . . ." (ACOK, Tyrion IV)

You have to wonder whether Ser Donnel Waynwood will make a reappearance -- either at the tourney or running for his life after the clansmen overwhelm the gate.

But that’s only one potential piece. So much more can happen:

Conclusion


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