Post Traumatic Election Disorder (E301)

Just brilliant! I hardly find much funny these days sadly but this podcast makes me belly laugh. I need to find friends like this! Thank you 🙏🏼

Samantha Chambers

It is fucking fascinating that there are still so many libs that listen to this podcast, and comment crying every time that Julian makes fun of democrats/libs…have you not realized that this podcast has two members who are openly socialist and the others heavily lean rad left…they have always pointed out how the libs/dems are a problem just like conservatives…are how tf do y’all not see that you’re part of the problem??? Malcom X described the liberal perfectly

Hannah Lux

Did anyone transcribe Jake’s digital army battle. I need to read it again. And again.

Gallo Altanero

Because huge country lots of interests lots of different policy ideas and ideologies plus big big world that has events and people who also have impactful effects. We can yell “why can’t we give everyone a home!” And point fingers for decades, it’s not helpful to be the person complaining that the house is on fire while in the house to the people in the house

Kal

Yep

Kal

So true. The double negative tho threw me! 🙂

Kal

I agree - but I think I understand it. Why couldn’t the entire dem establishment stand up to Biden and stop him from a second term but keep stating that this election is going to decide the fate of several nations so we must vote to keep them in? Like it yes is true, but I can see how that is … I mean how were people supposed to buy into that, on top of Gaza, etc.

Kal

Ps jk i mean figuratively. Like I couldnt have a gun I’d be terrified of it 24x7 exploding or I dunno I’m not a fan of

Kal

Seize the means! I’m with you! We ride at dawn! I mean, prez is immunized from legal/criminal laws..

Kal

The Hill is a conservative publication; they are of course going to fist bump the idea that America was reacting to “wokeism;,” that’s them confirming a thing they want to be true. It’s the same antagonism that’s always thrown on liberals by conservatives and it’s brilliant at creating smoke and mirrors internal conflict, think “political correctness” back in the 90s. The culture war is in the heads of those who obsess over it. My sense is that voters were frustrated by dems and saw them as out of touch but not for wokeness as much as for denying the everyday frustrations (economic, social, legal) that people struggle with. That and the hubris of Biden to not only run again (no one thought he would and then he did and that was absurd) - but that the entire establishment of dems were unwavering in this being totally acceptable, it was infuriating. You can’t tell the voters on one hand that the fate of the nation comes down to this election and on the other tell them that yes, an 82 year old is best for the nation and Biden wants to run again so he’s our candidate, lest we hurt his feelings, it’s his choice. Like if you can’t be real about bidens clear lack of capacity because you don’t want to rock the boat but you want to tell voters they better vote or the nation will fall, like that’s deeply offensive. I think that kind of clear elitist political class stuff bothers folks more than a lunatic (trump.) (I voted for Kamala) - like we don’t need to fight over how we’re too woke, we’re fine, we need to fight over how much we’re willing to listen, to be real and be accessible and accountable. Simple as that

Kal

Welcome back Julian you have been missed babe!!!

Kai Haskins

Um. No.

C’mon

Liv Agar

Laura Walsh

Take the Bible scam. Every state that implements a bible based curriculum is restricted into using one of 2 Trump branded bibles that he gets a per unit cut of. And that's just one scam!

Brad

ya gotta hand it to em

Andrew Mahalik

Democrats versus a single bloated orange conman. See the difference?

Brad

I went back and listened to the 2019 Krang epi with the first "Letter from the Meme War". Y'know, Twitter was a hell of a lot more active then. Kinda shocking what a ghost town it is now.

Horse Badorties

Democrats have been fleecing their faithful for 50 years, asking money to "fight for abortion rights" but never doing anything.

Horse Badorties

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpjHW4mr6qo

Horse Badorties

Hillary at least won the popular vote, Kamala lost both. They both ran very similar campaigns which is why they both lost. Nobody wants diet Republicans.

Talley Me Bananas

And at over 74 million votes and counting, she certainly didn't do worse than Hillary Clinton.

Richard Umphlett

Ross, there are a fair number of us out there. You should look into the SRA or other leftist gun groups, or just get together with other like-minded leftists and have a range day.

Talley Me Bananas

Did you miss when Tom Suozzi said "Dems have to stop pandering to the left" and Seth Moulton said, “I have two little girls, I don’t want them getting run over on a playing field by a male or formerly male athlete, but as a Democrat I’m supposed to be afraid to say that.”? Did you miss it when the Hill wrote "Voters rejected a ‘woke’ America — time for Democrats to listen and learn". This is what the Dems do they move further Right and abandon the Left.

Talley Me Bananas

Nobody on the left side of the aisle is blaming “wokeness”

Andrew Lenahan

Julian is 100% correct about MSW, it's nice to hear Jake not be such a lib. Blueannon is real and is taking over the Dems. The Dems are abandoning trans issues, never cared about Gaza, and are blaming "wokeness" for why a politician who never won a primary lost even worse than Hillary.

Talley Me Bananas

Loved this episode! As someone who is politically between being a liberal and a progressive, I'm deeply concerned about this Qanon level conspiracy about the election. There might be things worth looking into, but we have to accept that this is what the voters decided. It's just pure denial of reality and coping. We live in a world where truth and reality don't matter, and everyone chooses their reality. Social media and misinformation have cooked humanity.

J M

You know Jacques would get so angry at this comment! 👁️

Leyland

Of all my non MSM resources, the only post-election commentary I was pressed about hearing was from you folks. Every bit the catharsis I needed.

huang.gui.fei

That’s wild

huang.gui.fei

WHO said it is no longer a global public health emergency. It's endemic, not pandemic. https://www.who.int/director-general/speeches/detail/who-director-general-s-opening-remarks-at-the-media-briefing---5-may-2023

Jim Lippard

It's not a rhetorical 'gotcha' attempt. What happened to pushing Biden left? Forcing his hand through being organised to extract concessions, help people in poverty, etc. All the stuff that's happening now after the news of Trump's election - leftist grassroots organisations having their inboxes flooded with people asking how do we resist this? That should have happened with Obama's election, with Biden's election, too. Shouldn't it? Rather than when it swings back to the Dems, a sigh of relief and a to b marches and calling representatives as though that's enough. This is how it has tended to go each cycle, reactive instead of proactive. On the back foot. It doesn't have to be like that.

hhhhhm

"post-pandemic inflation" just in case, here is a gentle reminder that the WHO has not declared the pandemic over (Biden et al just wated it to be and ignored the WHO to declare it over)

hhhhhm

That it. I'm out. Let me know when Jake and Travis get their own pod, with occasional expert guests, movie nights, etc. I'm at Peak Julian.

Tim Mullin

All the great takes in this episode aside, I'm sorry, did I hear that right...banana honey uncrustable? what the literal hell is that? That sounds amazing!!

The Gr8Houdini

I didn’t say it was the wrong thing to do I just said it’s already extremely played out

Andrew Lenahan

I got the reference Jake and I enjoyed the song you sang after the silence

Jeremy

Blue pill to get it up... Oh. The joke writes itself.

Josep C.

You are wrong, Andrew. Blaming the democrats is the right thing to do. They ran an extremely unpopular candidate with minimal effort, lost money despite raising $1b, shifted rightwards on foreign policy and immigration, didn't campaign in nearly enough important places, etc. etc.

yap_that_fool

Bullet ballots

Carl Mann

The thing I remember most about Reince Priebus is when Ben Carson called him “Rinse Pubis”

TravisPewPewPew

It is lost…. If we give up on the other half that did NOT vote for Trump and the cowardly GOP Dems made mistakes… but the energy and momentum IS real. I’d rather make an honest mistake being too hopeful, then cynical at my core. In reality Dems were against incredible headwinds from the beginning, including relentless disinformation campaigns. it tells you something that they rallied so strongly in the end. We’re still out here. We aren’t giving in to the false narrative Autocrats are selling.

C’mon

Damn. Julien is more like Hunter S Thompson every episode ❤️

Natalie Dempsey

It’s funny to me too. I mean, people, “owning libs” isn’t really a game plan for life 😆

C’mon

I’m sure you’re right. People in the love-filled MAGA Party are there to “help people”. Kristi Noam will set a stellar example … she’ll handle FEMA with compassion. After all, people aren’t puppies.

C’mon

Julian is so close to Posadism. It's got dolphins, aliens, and the nuclear death of all our enemies! It's the one true way!

Aaron

I think we should let liberals have the word cuck. I just think it's really funny In all seriousness, thanks for the dose of sanity that comes from addressing this insane reality Julian, glad you're with us

Grease Witherspoon

Liv's analysis is correct, Julian's is not. A global anti-incumbency wave over post-pandemic inflation. Harris campaigning in the swing states reduced the shift to Republicans vs. other states by about 50%, but it wasn't enough, though all the Senate candidates won in those states except Casey in PA (so close it's going to mandatory recount). Overall result (~1.5% margin) was closest popular vote since 2000; Trump didn't even reach 50%.

Jim Lippard

Every single time it's the lesser of two evils speech from you fucking useless cowards lol. Get some new material

Skullbrain

Voting for the lesser of the two evils was better than not voting and the greater evil winning so you can grandstand about your morel highground while the most vulnerable Americans AND your precious Palestinians both get ground into the same hamburger meat. You're not even playing the game son and you damn sure didn't read my posts. Go out and play catch with your dad kiddo the grown ups are talking.

TalkieSoundBox

If you're blaming "the left" who wouldn't vote for a genocider instead of yourselves for going ahead and doing so then you're nothing but a lib (or something worse, but probably just a lib). Sorry just calling balls and strikes here lady

Skullbrain

As someone who is from North Carolina and works in politics here, NC voters spilt their vote. It’s very common. NC went to Trump and a Dem gov in 2020 as well.

Kristen Robinson

Nah it was far more "You're this thing because I say you are! Who am I you ask? Why fuckin nobody of course!"

TalkieSoundBox

My response wasn't "no u" it was "yes, you", moron

Skullbrain

If you're only response is "no u!" you ain't got shit to say man. How did you manage to get on patreon? Are you borrowing your mom's credit card to pay 😂

TalkieSoundBox

You are absolutely, 100% a lib

Skullbrain

When Jake starts giggling uncontrollably enough he starts to sound like Anderson Cooper to me

Lindsay R

"we can't use the leverage we have over Israel because we'd lose the leverage we have over Israel" is certainly a take.

David

This is the answer.

Landry

They can't handle that man I'm tellin you. Grandstanding on their morals was more important than survival and now we gotta take the brunt of the hits for em. It is what it is.

TalkieSoundBox

Four! There could be dozens of us, dozens!

Virgil918

I'm not a lib but go off siss

TalkieSoundBox

God you libs are such cowardly losers

Skullbrain

Best economy... for who

Skullbrain

So so so good to have an authentic Julian rant again.

Evan

What we're in right now is the backlash to the two events your describing. I never heard the end of it in the south after Obama won. Hes still blamed by the white majority for everything bad down here to this day and trumps rise is largely an answer to that sucess. Obama was our one chance for a black person to do something for black America and he largely failed and now the white backlash is so complete we'll not have another shot. Hillary sucked but once again she at least got the popular vote and so the backlash was extreme. She was ultra villainized by the right beyond even the terrible shit she actually did and the rise of the manosphere and young men spite voting now means that avenue is cooked for woman as well. Basically Americans are just too hateful racist and mysoginistic and even our so called allies are only willing to elect minorities during the good times but quick to scape goat them during the bad. It's not surprising to those of us who always been on the bottom but I think it is to those who fancied themselves our allies at the top. Thus the reluctance to call it what it is and instead the push to blame anyone but the garbage who voted for trump.

TalkieSoundBox

There were obviously a lot of factors that went into Kamala’s loss. I don’t think Gaza is the sole factor at all (I think it would’ve helped her to be anti-genocide even just superficially, but I won’t pretend to know if she would’ve won with that change alone), and obviously the racism and sexism of Americans is part of why she lost. America was racist in 2008 and 2012, though, and Obama won very comfortably both times. America was sexist in 2016, and as much as I hate to hand anything to Hillary Clinton, she won the popular vote. It is possible for Democrats (even black people and women) to appeal to voters who are prejudiced by making them feel they will affect their lives positively. Harris tried to appeal to reactionaries by being reactionary too, but when offered a choice between a full-on fascist and a biracial woman who hates immigrants and Palestinians to a lesser extent than he does, reactionaries are going to choose the fascist every time.

No Relation to Henry

Well I guess they're getting an ample learning opportunity now to actually pay attention. Trumps done a bazillion awefull things, said a bazillion awefull things and if they couldn't grok that I don't know what to tell them. They in the FAFO phase now.

TalkieSoundBox

I’m sure there were Muslims who voted for Trump because they heard more about how bad Kamala was on Gaza than how bad Trump was. A lot of voters are “low information,” sure, but it’s the campaign’s job to make sure information reaches them. It didn’t help that Trump did retail politics, went to Michigan to meet with the mayor of Dearborn and another Muslim mayor of another town, and got their endorsement. We can say that was dumb on the part of those mayors, and I agree, but did Kamala try to get their endorsement? If she had taken a stance against Israel and its genocide rather than just trying to say “we’re working tirelessly to end the war” (an obvious lie to anyone paying attention even a little) then she would’ve won those communities. I think people who believe Trump is anti-war are naive and not really paying attention, but he is able to portray himself as anti-war because the Democrats have so obviously embraced a hawkish foreign policy.

No Relation to Henry

I’ll admit that’s purely anecdotal. Just based on people I know I find it far-fetched that more than 8% of leftists (and IDK how you would define that – I guess just self-identification) voted for Trump, but maybe I’m in a bubble. There are some weirdos like the “Patriotic Socialists” who are definitely just fascists but call themselves leftists and adopt a sort of Soviet aesthetic, but barring them leftist Trump support just isn’t something I’ve been seeing.

No Relation to Henry

How do I get on the pod so I can join Julian in directly yelling at Muller She Wrote

Matty C

I didn't say that the democratic party believed all humans deserve basic rights. I said that I do, and so I selected the option that wasn't explicitly against basic human rights led by someone I know for a fact doesn't care about other humans at all.

Brad

Best economy in the world, real wages higher than pre-covid, best anti-trust activity in generations, investment in green energy, booming manufacturing investment, first year with no US combat deaths this century.

dsjordan

More like one party with some face eaters versus a meglomaniac who requires 1000 faces a day and the sycophants who peel faces all day for him.

Brad

70% of Israel's arms come from the US and it would obviously be a huge blow to them if the US stopped sending them. Where else are they going to come into that amount of high end armaments, Russia? Good luck with that at the moment lol. Like it or not Biden had a huge amount of leverage over Israel and chose never to use it, looking like a useless, spineless wimp at the same time with his ridiculous series of red lines which Netenyahu took clear pleasure sprinting over every time. He built an aid pier just so the IDF could use it to stage another fucking massacre! We've seen exactly what 'realistic' policy on Israel/Palestine looks like now for more than a year and it's genocide, with brutal police crackdowns and censorship laws on anyone who dares protest it. The fact senior Dems occasionally tut and sigh about that nasty mean Bibi does not change the barbarity they actively supported, nor that Trump's administration will simply be a smooth continuation of their policy. I don't believe this issue was anything like the main reason Harris lost the election, but it certainly was a key reason why young people across the country did not turn out for her, and pretending it wasn't the sort of refusal to face reality that will lead the Dems into many defeats to come.

Interested Third Party

Well not doing it got us where we are right now so 🤷‍♀️

TalkieSoundBox

Isn't it wild? We minorities ended up the sacrificial lamb so Democrats who weren't inspired enough can grandstand over Gaza. I hope they'll at least provide shelter when shit gets bad though frankly I wouldn't trust them to do even that.

TalkieSoundBox

Also as far as the "what if it was your family" thing there's a lovely little subreddit called r/Project2025Award that's just getting going but already has some absolute gems from Muslims who voted for trump shocked that he doesn't seem to back Palestine. Apparently it didn't matter that in some cases it was literally their family on the line they voted for the greater evil. Also plenty of Latinos who are suddenly worried about mass deportation after they voted for trump. It's a fascinating read truely.

TalkieSoundBox

"There were definitely more black women who voted for Trump than the nebulous leftists you're mad at." Any proof to back that up? Like legitimatly otherwise that's no more believable than my assertation that they did vote for him in appreciable numbers.

TalkieSoundBox

New challenge for Jake: work in a reference to Pvt. Wierzbowski. Preferably shouted.

fredbaroque

The two parties are not the same, but they are both wolves in this metaphor. One is the Leopards Eating As Many Faces As Possible party, and the other is the Leopards Eating A Lot Of Faces, For Sure, But Fewer And Probably Not Mine party.

No Relation to Henry

The Democratic Party certainly does not believe all humans deserve basic rights. You gotta come further to the left if you want that.

No Relation to Henry

And to be clear, I do understand the “lesser of two evils” shit. It’s what I’ve always done in the past. I voted third party because I don’t live in a state that is remotely competitive. I understand how the first-past-the-post system works, but I also understand the Electoral College, so I knew that whether I voted for Harris or not my EC votes were going to Trump. In my situation voting feels very futile, and I’m beginning to be more sympathetic to non-voters than I used to be. Our electoral system effectively disenfranchises loads of people.

No Relation to Henry

“Some even voted for Trump over Gaza” People always talk about “leftists” voting for Trump, but it isn’t a significant phenomenon. There were definitely more black women who voted for Trump than the nebulous leftists you’re mad at. A lot more of us either didn’t vote or voted third party. Still, I think the only places where the anti-genocide vote was probably significant are places like Dearborn, and again, if both major candidates were saying “there are significant differences between us but we both support the annihilation of your family in particular” you probably wouldn’t feel inclined to vote for either person. You can say you would vote for the lesser evil if that evil was still “your family should die,” but you also can’t blame people who wouldn’t.

No Relation to Henry

Scratch one and a fascist bleeds.

Virgil918

Hey! Up to you on whether or not you listen, but this one actually largely speaks to the takeaways you brought up

Molly Ginnane

How many times are you going to respond with this exact comment

Andrew Lenahan

Jake's evil Santa comment has me picturing the "Garbage Day" scene in Silent Night, Deadly Night 2, but starring JD Vance and it is haunting me.

Brian Sheppard

Is there seriously a Covid doomer in 2024 replying to my post? What the hell are you talking about man

Andrew Lenahan

Also, I would have cheered for the intro Travis vetoed

Laura

Glad to have you back, Julian! ❤️

Laura

I'm fascinated by the ....ummmm...logic supporting the "I'm not voting because of the Biden/Harris WH inaction to stop Israel's war on Gaza." Firstly, what the frack can Biden do to stop Israel? Attack Israel? (Not realistic) Stop selling them arms? Sure, but we'd lose ALL negotiating power with Israel, and the Israelis would buy arms elsewhere and keep slaughtering Palestinians or anyone who threatens Jews. Bottom line here is this; like it or not Israelis don't give a popcorn fart what others think about their war. The Holocaust taught them only Jews have a right and responsibility to their safety and nobody...not the UN...the US...Russia...or anyone gives a shit about keeping Jews safe except Jews. Your friends were morons for not voting. Effectively they voted for Trump...and he doesn't care if Israel turns every Gazan into cat food, whereas at least Biden/Harris would have approached the problem realistically. I hope everything works out OK for my friends in vulnerable groups (Gays, black people, trans, etc) Personally, I faught like heckl to keep Trump out of office but lost. I used to be optimistic....but since November 5 I'm getting a bad feeling about the future. I feel like I did during my last deployment...like the battle is lost. Good luck to you.

bigphoton

It would be so cool if leftists starting getting guns so we could start having a little violent workers' struggle

Ross Moore

Trump only knows like 3 scams and for some reason the universe has decided I should suffer watching him run them over and over. I know anecdotal experience isn't admissible, but I can't pretend there's an equivalence.

Brad

Hahahahaha yea how many players choose unrestricted marriages when they reform their religion? If you play as a Zorastrian character you get rewarded for marrying siblings

Ruth Kiszka

talk about a plot hole!

Benji R.

I don't know of this reference will land here but You wouldn't misgender transfem Hitler

Benji R.

👏👏👏👏👏👏

Benji R.

Mmm sure some of them. But I think a lot of them are hurting economically, like we are.

Benji R.

I hover somewhere between progressive lib and leftist. So when Kamala was first announced I was pretty hopeful. All the dread about project 2025 was lifted with hope of a fighting chance. With the Tim Walz nomination as well, I was assuming she was taking a more progressive stance than Biden. I was worried about misogyny, but I didn't hear a lot of "woman president" scoffs or anything. (tbr turns out I was in a bubble.) I found out that all my friends were not voting. The one friend who I had convinced switched to jill stein last minute, and Kamala's interviews got worse as she pandered to moderate conservatives. My friends didn't want to vote because of Gaza, but, I felt Trump wouldn't be any better for Palestine and at least Kamala's statement feigned a "ceasefire" deal (will defending Israel and blaming Hamas idk.) I'm not a one issue voter, but I definitely felt the skin I had in the game and am horrified Trump is going to "day 1 ban gender affirming care for all ages." like he said he will. Trump winning did not feel like a conspiracy, because I had seen the election malaise all around me. (tbf I live in a deep red state so my friends know our votes don't count.) My 65 year old "blue no matter who" mom told me "Trump is crazy but the Dems are just as much to blame. they can't politic for shit and they haven't been able to in years." The fact that the Dems knew they were going to lose no matter what was the final fucking kick to the face. They told us how important this election was yet they ran a candidate they knew was going to be a hard sell. They gave us all false hope. Now we're here and I have to figure out how to not forcibly detransition in January. Hoping that's the biggest fish I have to fry in the coming years.

Creamer

Biden declared the pandemic over, prematurely (the WHO have not declared it over to date) - leading to the biggest Covid wave of the whole pandemic in the so called USA, resulting in a huge amount of deaths, for every death, very many more people saddled with new or more chronic illness / disability since Covid19 is a vascular disease, and he greenlighted a genocide of Palestine. Have i missed anything? What happened to pushing him left?

hhhhhm

As the years pass in this pandemic, i'll trust less and less people's driving ability.... Driving Under the Cognitive Influence of COVID-19: Exploring the Impact of Acute SARS-CoV-2 Infection on Road Safety https://www.neurology.org/doi/10.1212/01.wnl.0001051276.37012.c2 "Results Findings indicate an association between acute COVID-19 rates and increased car crashes with an OR of 1.5 (1.23-1.26 95%CI). The analysis did not find a protective effect of vaccination against increased crash risks, contrary to previous assumptions. The OR of car crashes associated with COVID-19 was comparable to driving under the influence of alcohol at legal limits or driving with a seizure disorder. Conclusions The study suggests that acute COVID-19, regardless of Long COVID status, is linked to an increased risk of car crashes presumably due to neurologic changes caused by SARS-CoV-2. These findings underscore the need for further research into the neuropsychological impacts of COVID-19. Further studies are recommended to explore the causality and mechanisms behind these findings and to evaluate the implications for public safety in other critical operational tasks. Finally, neurologists dealing with post-COVID patients, should remember that they may have an obligation to report medically impaired drivers."

hhhhhm

Ooft!

hhhhhm

Why is it so socially acceptable to use the ableist slur 'd*mb" in the so called USA? It's so grim.

hhhhhm

Yup, its a disingenuous equivalence from the jump, who's the other wolf? Harris? Once it's Trump v "them", its not reality.

Brad

The dems didn't do much to help people. What they did offer was: 💀 Greenlighting and funding a genocide of the Palestinian people. 💀 Prematurely declaring the Covid-19 pandemic over, even though WHO has not declared it over, leading to huge deaths, chronic illness, disability (and that is still in progress). 💀 More escalation of the system in general. They shat it. And it was honestly what was to be expected. Obama just escalated the system further after Bush and helped create the conditions for a Trump. Cunts the lot of them.

hhhhhm

I recommend following a YouTuber called FD signifier and the people he promoted if you want a take from those who actually see what's on the line. The reason you see so many white talking heads focus on blaming the democratic party is because focusing on the idea that the people who voted for trump aren't just dumb or being tricked is far too depressing. This show always tried to give the majority of Q people the benefit of the doubt when many of them were hateful racist misogynistic people before that cult even came along. They were just quieter about it.

TalkieSoundBox

Mmm yes because calling trump voters stupid has worked so well in the past 10 yrs

Benji R.

To pretend the two parties are the same shows your ignorance. That sort of loft centrist nonsense usually comes from a place of privilege. Only those not in danger of being eliminated have the privilege of condemning both sides.

TalkieSoundBox

I just hate that so many on the left are useing the libs as a smokescreen so they don't have to talk about just how spiteful and hate filled the white majority of America is. Libs suck but you guys need to confront that the maga crowd isn't ignorant, they're complicite. They know what they voted for and it was to harm their enemies full stop.

TalkieSoundBox

When the crappy libs are being used as a way to be in denial over how far gone half of america is, yeah, it's pretty mystifying.

TalkieSoundBox

What the fuck are you talking about, this podcast has been about right wing nutjobs for most of its life

Andrew Lenahan

Dstyu d

Blake Senne

Imagine being a regular listener of this podcast who is mystified by using "lib" as a pejorative

Dylan Neptune

Liv> That's Hoth. Julian> Fuck off, Liv. Joy.

Nèv

Where can I buy a maybe nonexistent Kamala watch for 100K?

Brad

The thing is, I don't have to give up critical thought and common sense to vote for a democrat. I didn't have to pretend that Harris is smarter than me to vote for her, because she's not a bad opportunity grifter who's trying to line her pockets with every act she takes. She's not trying to avoid checks on her power so she can be an unchallenged dictator, and I haven't been watching her do the same thing over and over to the same people for 50 years. There aren't two wolves.

Brad

The term “the only good Democrat is a dead Democrat” exists for a reason too. Doesn’t mean it’s a good reason! Just like that dumbass saying

Andrew Lenahan

Also, the term "scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds" exists for a reason, you know...

Nick Branson

Also thank you for these analogies Brad. I feel like I’ve been going insane since the election with all the talk about how the democrats suck ass while not talking about how the other party is literally a bunch of racists and predators

Andrew Lenahan

You do not know what is in my heart, stranger. I call liberals dumb because they are, and that's harmless compared to the things I think about fascists, which would get me banned from most social media!

Nick Branson

They are not the disguise dude

Andrew Lenahan

Wish you guys had this same type of smoke for fascists

Andrew Lenahan

Old school greg palast head here waving hi from 2001

Garth Hansen

Dems are the lube the GOP uses to fuck us all. Great concise description

Garth Hansen

Is language overlap, Many Americans use the term liberal to mean neoliberal with some just using it interchangeably whether consciously or not. Is why I make sure to use distinguishing words where possible and remembered.

Overzealous Euthanasiast

I’m waiting for my guerrilla leader Harris to lead the charge.

Daniel Greene

Thanks! I guess it just makes me sad seeing people who should ostensibly know better post some very dumb opinions here!

Nick Branson

I’m so sorry you have to see other people’s opinions.

Daniel Greene

I started a drinking game called “take a shot every time a leftist podcast screeches about the Cheneys as a reason the Dems lost” and I died from alcohol poisoning last weekend

Andrew Lenahan

That's because it is!

Nick Branson

Some of you really love using lib as a slur/derogatory term and it confuses me

Andrew Lenahan

Honestly might skip this one based on the description. The blaming the democrats/pointing fingers/“Liz Cheney” talk is honestly already very played out to me and it’s only been a week and a half since the election Really the only takeaway should be that a very large number of Americans are stupidly uninformed and at least tolerant of unashamed racism if it means egg prices goes down

Andrew Lenahan

We won't get a lib j6 because that would requires liberals to believe in ever taking direct action to fight fascism. something you cateorically don't.

Frontlinecaster

"Electile Dysfunction "

Garth Hansen

Nick Branson

It's because the Democrats aren't little red riding hood in this instance. They are simply the disguise the wolf is wearing.

Nick Branson

IMO There is real, massive voting fraud going on. Not by hacking the machines, or packing drop boxes, but by candidates/pundits/media lying through their teeth to voters. Lies permeate the process and are tolerated by too many people IF the lies are what they want to believe. And while we chase the chimera of voter fraud with ballot audits, hand counts, poll watchers, voter roll purges and lawsuits, nothing is done to stop the very real, in a legal and ethical sense, conspiracy of politicians etc lying to voters. Just my take. Sorry about the rant everyone.

bigphoton

People are forgetting qanon started under the second year of trump, when they already won but were too invested in their own pride to admit he wasn't fulfilling his promises and they may have been mistaken. Fueled even further by evangelical thinking and communities alongside a political party so devoid of solutions or any real platform they have to obsessively attack trans and migrant groups in spite of all data/results. There's so many other factors not being considered behind this moral and contextual flattening of conspiratorial thinking that makes the both-sidesism at best useless if not actively harmful.

Overzealous Euthanasiast

Its like if Little Red Riding hood was running against the Big Bad Wolf and now I'm being called a fool for supporting the naive girl and not the literal predator.

Brad

It's weird to hear what the dems and the libs did wrong over and over and have to wonder how the podcast talkers perceive themselves. Am I a dem or a lib? I mean I believe all humans deserve basic rights, so I guess? Almost makes me feel like they are saying that I'M the moron for pointing out the naked emporer over and over.

Brad

We’re so back baby!!!

Elizabeth Warren Moon

It’s insane it wasn’t enough for some people given how terrible Trump/GOP are was clearly on display.

Daniel Greene

I like that when the options are "uninspiring" and "aspiring dictator" people couldn't be assed to cast a prevention vote. Must be nice for them to know all the worst things Republicans could do won't affect them so nothing was on the line here I guess 😂

TalkieSoundBox

A lot of the left just didn't show up based purely around Gaza. Some even voted trump over Gaza which is completely unhinged lol. White women also voted for trump in droves despite the party wanting to literally take that ability away from them because upholding their whiteness was more important than upholding their autonomy as human beings I guess lol

TalkieSoundBox

I would and I'd vote for the one who promised less harm. Your scenario is a false comparison because both sides were not promising equal harm so that's pretty crappy of you to pretend they were but in the scenario you dreamed up I would look at the two candidates, the people around each one and I vote based on which one I thought has the least competency to pull off that attrocity. Id also do exactly what I'm doing now, circle the wagons and brace for impact. No inequevalelant dreamed up scenario you create is going to make me blame those who did not vote for the lesser of two evils this election less. Y'all made your bed, now you get to lie in it. We have to do it to and our only solace as black people is we don't have much to be taken from us and we been through all this shit before. Just don't expect us to carry another civil rights movement to get you back all the rights y'all lost because you chose a moral highground.

TalkieSoundBox

We have proof they wouldn’t. The 2000 election actually was stolen, and they did fuck all about it.

No Relation to Henry

Solid episode. I hate it.

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

“Hello my friend, stay a while and listen” - Mike Flynn

Jose Chung

lmao liv does deserve the biggest room 💚

ev

Okay I think Jake was driving. Liv sat next to me playing Switch. Then we went to their house where they all lived together like it was the apocalypse, and I distinctly remember that Julian’s “room” was a little section with netting over it and a Sailor Moon sleeping bag. Liv had the largest room and a rainbow light up keyboard. Travis also had a sleeping bag and was sitting dejectedly under what looked like a roof with holes in it. Also i distinctly remember feeling paranoid that UFOs were trying to get me, and Liv, Travis, Jake, and Julian were hiding me from them as well as the government.

Chloe Showalter

was Travis driving? I wouldn't trust anyone else

ev

qanon started as a fringe theory that was not picked up by the mainstream GOP for some time. it started just like the Dems shit is right now.

Rai

liberals have no room to balk at the term "BlueAnon". russiagate itself was an election denial conspiracy theory. I feel like the only reason liberals feel like they have a right to be exempt from the label BlueAnon/BlueMaga or just conspiratorial is because they think there is some moral essence that not voting for trump gives them. and that simply isn't true. this may be hard to hear but there are likely several trump supporters that are overall better people than you. your vote actually isn't the only moral measuring stick with which people can judge your character or intelligence.

Rai

Jake. Jake. Why the fuck did you donate to Kamala’s campaign bro 😭😭😭 ily man but come on

yap_that_fool

The aliens in the rafters reference. I laughed, Jake. I laughed.

Brent

Im glad I'm one of the good leftist. Also, I hate it.

Tom N

I like this idea that Dick Cheney decided the election. Not the voterbase being unhappy about inflation like what happened to most incumbents internationally. America’s average voter that didn’t even know Biden dropped out but I’m sure they were moved by Dick’s endorsement.

Steven Kirk

Why is it after this episode I had a dream I was in the car with all of you, and you were trying to save me from the Trump administration. God help me.

Chloe Showalter

Welp the world is going to shit but at least we got a banger jake story out of it

Nolan-Globus

From England tied to your rope and following you into the abyss, I really appreciate all you guys and galls. Your differing perspectives and your ability to communicate real cynicism as well as love for each other are actually really important to me.

Cara

liv agar

bakaneko420

I was surprised that Jake seemed so confident on Harris's victory and thinking that Trump didn't have the juice. To me the right wing, especially with their online propaganda machine, has become increasingly energized and lockstep. While Gaza drove a wedge on the Dem side and Harris ended up playing it so "safe" she became uninspiring. Listening to lots of liberal-bent political podcasts like Ezra Klein/PSA/538 to feed my electoral politics addiction, the election being in Trump's favor and/or being extremely close was well-broadcasted. Young men, Latinos and other minorities going more toward Trump has been discussed as weakness for Dems for a couple years (these trends became apparent in 2020). Maybe it's my media diet, but I wasn't seeing the levels of perceived inevitability we saw with Clinton '16. I must push back on a couple things. While I have been seeing some the stupid Starlink conspiracies and election denial from the Dem side, it's not nearly as pervasive and it's not being pushed ad nauseum from the Dem institutions or their media. While I am happy you guys are covering it, because it's been annoying me, I don't think we're getting a liberal J6 or its really going to gain the same traction as the so-called "Big Lie". I still don't think "both sides are the same". Harris and Dems asking for money for recounts is not for the presidential election. This is about close uncalled House races, some of are close enough to spark recounts and so close that provisional ballots and curing ballots are considered. These all require legal resources which require money. I'm not giving them money and I'm not saying you should, but this is all pretty normal things for a political party to do for extremely close races, especially while control of the House was potentially up in the air. As for people concerned about their mail-in ballots being rejected. I agree that it's basically impossible this would have been done at scale across the board that it would shift the race. If swing states had been razor thin, perhaps it would have. Republicans have been broadcasting making signature verification stricter or being punitive in general about whether to accept or reject ballots. I think there is real reason worry about voter suppression when it has been GOP policy for some time. People anxiously trying to interrupt what unreliable government websites say about the status of their mail ballots is neurotic and broadcasting their uncertainty and paranoia online is stupid, but it doesn't seem as outlandish as the Starlink stuff.

Daniel Greene

QAA has the capacity to give me much needed catharsis. One of the few things that helps me stay sane. Thank you all

David

At least three of us!

Chris Esson

I don't blame the Democrat party, in spite of their failures. IMO I blame the people who voted for TrumpMAGA. For me, the most revealing thing said during the election was " I voted for Trump because he's one of us." I took that to mean that the MAGA voters are like Trump; ignorant,crude, dishonest, bigoted, selfish and sexualy perverted. Given that Trump won the popular vote, I now know what a majority of American voters are.

bigphoton

Just want to say to the QAA host gang I really admire the clear friendship and respect you all have for each other. Years of covering really tough shit, combined with your own personal mental and physical health ups and downs, can’t be easy, and I’m sure there have been disagreements and hard times between you. But from this outsider’s point of view, you all seem to clearly care about each other and aren’t afraid to work at it, and that’s really cool. Glad you’re back, Julian—take care, all a’ yous.

Orlando

I want to hear Jake's response to the amount of incest committed by players.

Blake

After his breakdown I am profoundly Jake-pilled. I always thought I was more like Julian if we got his uncensored audio but now realize I am actually just a pop-culture vacuum screaming as my understanding of the world around me crumbles

Tad Dolphay

Banger episode, though I do get more concerned about the collective sanity of the pod every week.

Blake

It's not conspiracy thinking to point out corporate media has been hyperfocused on Trump for ratings and neglected to inform the public about the many successes of the Biden administration.

dsjordan

I'm proud to say I'm one of the at least two listeners that laughed at that reference

Jacob James

Wait, Maine shifted Democrat also, I thought.

Brad

One thing I don't think the neolib election deniers realise is that even if it turns out there was cheating, even if there was irrefutable evidence found across the whole cursed goddamn country: does anyone honestly believe the Dems would fight it at all? Or would they do what they always do and avoid confrontation while claiming the can of justice has been kicked down the road a little bit you just gotta wait?

Overzealous Euthanasiast

You guys should do a crossover episode with seeking derangements where you make Jake and Jacques do a series of cognitive tests

HonestEd

As someone who has been watching Trump repeatedly fleece the witless for almost 4 decades, since working in the NYC construction industry of the 80s and 90s, I can't figure out from any of the post-election podcasts, including this one, if it's my fault for encouraging democrat votes, or if I get to blame someone. Let me know! Love the pod.

Brad

That's what I'm sayin'

Farbik The Olden

I have to hand it to you for prescience: you’ve dealt regularly with most of the highest-profile picks that Trump’s announced in the past week—i.e., Musk, Kennedy, Gabbard, Gaetz, and, as of today, Patel. Some have had entire episodes devoted to them. Gabbard got two. We can’t say you didn’t warn us.

Liam Harte

Much love to Julian, happy to hear from him and that he’s on track. Stay strong!

Jacob B

They pulled back on everything that was energizing their own base in the first week to once more try and court conservatives, who ultimately voted for Kamala by *lower* margins than 2020

Jackson

Yeah Jake's take is dumb, them pulling back on that energy after the first week didn't earn any conservatives and just depressed their base

Jackson

The unlocking of the folder that contained all of trumps first cabinet is so relatable

Dave

I want a justice warriors spin off of The Fetterman-Biden amalgam

Joelio

People say that whenever the government does anything to help people. Given the alternative was letting people starve, go homeless, or die, there was no choice. And people like getting things. You can't give them things, then say, "oops, the government can't actually do anything to make your lives materially better, it was a dream"

Noblesse Oblahaj

Lots of people attribute that government intervention as causing inflation.

Daniel Greene

So glad Julian is back to rub salt in the wound.

Daniel Greene

Liv can you do an episode about Crusader Kings 3? There are mods where you can play a time travelling Hitler as duke of brandenburg. It's perfect you can have Hitler oversee German expansion at the expense of those pesky slavs

Ruth Kiszka

So funny & so spot on

Mx_EddyNikko

This is the episode I’ve been waiting for. Let the healing begin!

Ben Ivory

Also I think that a lot of Dems are being very reductive with the "people votes against whoever was in the office while inflation happened". COVID showed us that the government could help us with food and money and debt pauses, when they wanted. People liked that. Then COVID was suddenly declared over, and the governments of the world went back to pretending they couldn't do anything

Noblesse Oblahaj

Attacking the fascists for being weirdos and making fun of them was cool and good and a better thing than very cordial VP debates

Noblesse Oblahaj

Also side note but being the voice of reason IS the weaker position. When the other side does not respond to reason then what's the point of a moral high ground? You might as well go out in your back yard and argue with a rock and then because you didn't call the rock mean names claim you won the argument. Personally I'm done with the high ground, now that people like me have an even bigger target on our backs all the high ground is good for is giving them a cleaner shot.

TalkieSoundBox

QAA hosts can just sit around and name old Trump administration Guys and just have the best time

Subodh Kafle

Take comfort in the fact that Jake and Julian are still able to laugh. When that’s no longer the case, ooh boy.

monkey

QAnon never dies, it reinvents itself … or something …

monkey

I think all the back n forth over who's fault it is is hilarious. Anything to not blame a hateful white majority and a "left" who put Gaza above all the minorities here who are going to suffer under trump. We black women showed up to try and save y'all like we always do and ya failed us. It's not surprising but it is disappointing

TalkieSoundBox

When will we hear more about these new uncrustables?

Morgan Wardwell

Dammit, thanks for ruining eating ass with that Trump interview. Is nothing sacred? Not even analingus?

Robert Williams

That Juan o Savin post that was read made me feel full-on schizophrenic. I know there were words read, and I think they were English, but I have no fucking clue what he was saying.

Brad Plumb

Jake UNLEASHED!

Brad Plumb

The only post-election review I've listened to that made sense. Thanks!

Angela Brown

Don't worry Jake, I enjoyed your Pelosi crawling through the ceiling description. The true greats are always misunderstood in their time.

Ian Davies

The "weird" thing was like the only good thing that campaign did. Then some pencil neck dweeb came and told them to shut it down and it was all down hill from there lol

Brandi Ray

Glad to hear you back Julien!

Reece K Shaw

You guys should let Julian yell at specific listeners more often

Nick Balaz

I don't think the race was loss because of any particular messaging mistake, but because of a general sense of frustration with inflation. The Harris campaign would have had to drastically distinguish themselves from the Biden administration which was not possible.

Matthew Halsall

I don’t think that the libs saying conservatives are weird is what did the campaign in. They got rid of that rhetoric once they started courting Republicans and so the GOP was no longer weird but a “prospective voter base.”

Chloe Showalter

It’s Joever

Matt Alten

Nice to hear your voice Julian. Great Jake story, bleak shit you guys very bleak. Take care of yourselves

Spliffy

Me too usually but this one was not very comforting honestly. I binge old episodes of YKS it's very soothing

Spliffy

Tim Walz agreeing with rather than debating JD Vance took the gas out of the weird thing.

Brooke

“SHADOWBANNED, ANN!”

Shivvy

hilter 😭

Shivvy

I have to disagree with one thing; I do think the "weird" thing would have worked, but the Obama/Biden campaign people pumped the brakes on that one. They feared it would alienate moderates and disaffected Repubs. Self-indlicted defeat

Craig

America has a raging case of Electile Dysfunction, as well.

Schwartz666

I've smoked dipped cigarettes before. It's called sherm : )

ev

Long may she Liv

Craig

liv agar

ev

Senators ARE Congressmen Julian and Jake!

Justin S.

The Democratic leadership are definitely Xenomorphs. I see you, Jake.

Evan Pitkin

The Quislings are really showing themselves; Biden and his fireside chat with Trump. His wife extending an offer to meet with Lady Macbeth ( and Mrs Macbeth giving her the finger in response). Personally, if I was Biden I wouldn't have had a chat with him, but I would have shit all over the Oval office on my last day. And what about Kamala? What words of defiance to America did she offer in the face of a man she said was a facist? " It's going to be OK." Wow so inspiring. Imagine if Churchill had offered that the the English in the summer of 1940, After France fell, and England faced invasion. He'd have said "And now the whole fury and might of the enemy must be surly turned on us. Hitler knows he must break us in our island or lose the war. But, it's going to be OK!." But Sly Stallone really set the bar high by slithering to Mar-A-lardo and kissing Trump's ample ass today, calling him George Washington. Sly apparently doesn't know that the difference between an ass kisser and a brown noser is a matter of depth perception. Sorry about the Rant everyone. Great episode!

bigphoton

not gunna lie. i smoked a little bit of the blue anon to cope like a secret cig

wollymight

It's times like this, that i turn to the gospel of Eiffel 6:5... Blue are the people here That walk around Blue like my corvette its in and outside Blue are the words I say And what I think Blue are the feelings That live inside me I'm Blue Da ba dee da bAnon Da ba dee da bAnon 💙

Schwartz666

welp, ding dang diggity

Brendan Luster

Jake talks, a lot.

Ryan Post

I got the Last Crusade Elsa reference too, Jake! Julian, I've missed you!

mysticwerebadger

Mueller she wrote being a listener is an absolutely wild reveal. Wilder than Rachel Maddow.

Samantha Miller

Julian the prodigal son! Rise! The ominous approaching horizon of powerful bickering courtesan's ravaging each other as neoliberal opportunitists perch on the sidelines like vultures condescendingly tuttng into megaphones will need someone with a spicy sass bite to take the edge off a lot of incoming helpless frustration 👩‍🔬👌

Overzealous Euthanasiast

weird mine tooooo

Shivvy

liv agar

Alex Anderson

Also great to hear everyone, but especially Julian

Suzie B

I recently found out that a friend of mine did a ton of PCP in high school and you literally would never guess, she's totally normal

Suzie B

Hey, you. You’re finally awake!

MJ SKA BOI

Just getting started and pretty sure this is going to feel bad. And comforting, in a dark way, which seems to be the only way these days.

Justine Riekena

Been waiting for this one, bring on the pain train

Mishap

It's called post-pardon depression

Noblesse Oblahaj

I laughed at the Aliens reference

Patrick La Shell

Love y'all.

Chris Brandon

Really glad you're okay, Julian !!

Evan

I’ve never related to Julian more.

josh heffernan

I hope everyone is taking care of themselves.

Hydroflask Full of Hot Sauce

Man Travis is so strict in the QAA chat! Love to Julian!!

Shivvy

So comes the end, and the beginning. This podcast has kept me sane for years now—and it looks like there's no end in sight for that. Thanks again, take care everyone. *Including* the hosts!

nice meme

Never needed an episode from you guys more in my life than now.

Casey Lau

My comfort podcast!

Amanda Menjivar

Finally a blueanon episode

Stone Nelson

Oh thank god, I needed something to listen to. The bad thoughts are setting in folks!

Altinia Holdings Inc

Been dreading this one all week. Thank you!

Wanted Matt

I have been anxiously awaiting this

Corinna Jayne