Ku Klux feat Devin O’Shea (Premium E261)
Added 2024-09-27 14:13:58 +0000 UTCThe origins of the white supremacist terror organization known as the Ku Klux Klan. We explore its emergence during the post-civil-war reconstruction era, its roots in “charivari” and how it came up with its bizarre aesthetics. The episode is guest-written by the ever-excellent Devin Thomas O’Shea.
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Congrats Devin, can't wait to read that book.
Andy Kraushaar
2025-02-27 16:00:53 +0000 UTCWHO IS THAT IN THE AUTO Q? Is that Tucker?!
Maggie Rants
2024-10-10 22:56:31 +0000 UTCGreat episode and don’t change a thing!
Toni Scott
2024-10-09 05:15:49 +0000 UTChi!! what was the name of the podcast devin mentioned to listen to about the civil war? great episode!
Syster
2024-10-07 15:07:10 +0000 UTCI resubscribed for this episode. Don’t know what that says about me, but great episode and always love to hear from Devin O’Shea. 💪
Laura Woodford
2024-10-05 23:26:40 +0000 UTCCan you unlock this? It’s really fascinating and I’d like to share with some friends
Patrick
2024-10-05 14:58:49 +0000 UTCAre their photos of those early janky costumes?
Amy F
2024-10-04 02:20:34 +0000 UTCThis guest could use some acting coaching from Jake. The flat affect is deadening to listen to compared to the usual talent.
Emvee
2024-09-30 12:54:42 +0000 UTCI also have classic brain. I don't know if it's covid or drinking out of the dang hose growing up that did it.
Samwell Ganges
2024-09-30 02:05:57 +0000 UTCBe nice to Jake! I appreciate his Skyrim Civil War analogy 😤
Samwell Ganges
2024-09-30 02:05:03 +0000 UTCExactly this. I’m a long time listener from almost the beginning, who found it when my ex got sucked in early. There was basically no counter-Q info on the internet so I often felt crazy trying to keep all the weird narratives straight. I can’t tell you what it meant to find a Q debunk source that wasn’t afraid to get dark but didn’t lose their sense of humour. Means more than you know guys!
Jennifer Kot
2024-09-29 22:31:39 +0000 UTCWhat a great episode! 👏🏻
Jennifer Kot
2024-09-29 22:19:19 +0000 UTCHorrific. Devin's episodes are always so good and so horrifying 👏👏👏 Also, this calls to mind 'Ring Shout' by P Djèlí Clark, a novel set in this same time period and also deeply horrifying. And satisfyingly violent.
Hanna
2024-09-29 17:38:01 +0000 UTCAs someone who larps, I find this not surprising but helpful for contextual using my experiences. The main larp I do is a giant festival and much of the story comes from a meme or a bit that gains traction during drunken revelry. These bits often end with costumes parades or elaborate scenes-somehow becoming religions or other in-game groups that people feel real attachment to. I’m often told I’m too sensitive and strict about themes or people I engage with, but I think this is exactly why….costumes/crowds/group creativity is so powerful and it takes one bad seed to turn normal people into capable of committing evil. It is so sad that something so beautiful (humans ability to come together) can be exploited and twisted by evil people or just ignorant ones.
Westbrook Evans
2024-09-29 14:07:18 +0000 UTCCan we do more episodes in Christopher Walken “accents” going forward?
Daryl
2024-09-29 10:39:19 +0000 UTCImagine dying in the real life 1800's Purge movie
Sean Marshall
2024-09-29 07:39:47 +0000 UTCGreat ep, but Devin’s portrayal of Charivari (and Skimmington) is anachronistic for the early modern period. Such practices were also fundamental for communities in resisting unjust oppression. Calling something “vigilante” makes little sense in a period before there were police forces. For France see Natalie Zemon Davis, for England E.P. Thompson
Daniel Johnson
2024-09-29 06:21:22 +0000 UTCIt’s right here on Patreon!
Leyland
2024-09-29 00:42:01 +0000 UTCclassic brain...
Brendan Luster
2024-09-28 23:44:18 +0000 UTCHow else are we to prepare to deal with all the conspiracy quacks around here?
Lane Miller
2024-09-28 23:18:13 +0000 UTCGreat episode but Devin told me to listen to the war nerd podcast about the Civil War. I couldn’t find it on apple platform. Anybody know where to find this?
Cussian
2024-09-28 19:36:09 +0000 UTCIn Sven Hassel's books, he talks alot about how the uniform of both the german and russian army during ww2 "helped" young men and those older too . To commit awful crimes, how the group mentality was reinforced. And the anonymity of the uniform gave them the release from the natural bonds of society. His books are not seen in a positive light so much nowadays. Since they arent seen as all factual. But i have yet to read any book that manages to show the horrors of war and human cruelty better. Its a must read for everyone imo
Toadwine
2024-09-28 17:00:28 +0000 UTCJake is the Emperor Palpatine of comedy and COVID is his absolute power
Noblesse Oblahaj
2024-09-28 16:55:03 +0000 UTCHuh. Always wondered where the wedding night tradition of ‘shivaree’/‘chivary’ came from. I’ll be damned.
Tinkersdamn and Skel
2024-09-28 16:50:35 +0000 UTCplus ça change
E Lyons
2024-09-28 16:42:38 +0000 UTCThe descriptions of the charivari and carnivalesque violence are incredibly scary. Straight out of a horror movie.
Hannah Blumenfeld
2024-09-28 14:44:54 +0000 UTCThe pitfalls of doing a southern accent. In 1976 there was a play, on Broadway, “The Last Meeting of the Knights of the White Magnolia,” part of a cycle of three plays called The Texas Trilogy. Fred Gwynne played Col. J. C. Kincaid, a member of a tiny, Klan-like group in the early ‘60’s. The seriousness of the play was undercut by an audience who had all watched “The Munsters.” Fred Gwynne, out of his Herman Munster make-up and with a fine southern drawl, was still Fred Gwynne, but his skill soon overrode our sitcom-mediated view. I watched, with my fellow freshman theatre classmates, from the orchestra seats. We were earnestly experiencing the serious drama, even as Colonel Kincaid strode downstage and loomed over us. But then he laughed. The moment was meant to be serious, maybe chilling. But a reflexive, surprised chuckling rolled through the audience as - suddenly - sweet, goofy Herman Munster appeared. We stifled it quickly, ashamed at our gauche, Pavlovian reaction. We gave Fred a hearty, and a bit apologetic, applause at the end. The play ran less than a month.
Jeanne H-B
2024-09-28 14:31:48 +0000 UTC"I'm not racist, but my fursona..."
Her Fierceness
2024-09-28 13:22:19 +0000 UTCHappy to be 1 of the 11 Southern listeners. Jake's accent is totally fine sounds kinda like my grandpa from Savannah tbh lol
Austin Flanders
2024-09-28 12:40:36 +0000 UTCGreat episode! But only an American could say the sentence "nothing is really older than 200 yrs in any given culture. "
Lindymizer
2024-09-28 11:29:43 +0000 UTCWhere's the quiz? I was promised a quiz!
DD
2024-09-28 08:22:37 +0000 UTCholding it down as a 2x Western listener, representing our louche morals and corruption :)
Shivvy
2024-09-28 08:15:00 +0000 UTCNot a Southerner but I bet I have cousins in nonviolent fiddle groups on my moms side ☘️
Shivvy
2024-09-28 08:13:26 +0000 UTCcuckolds, even? so harsh
boo
2024-09-28 04:41:31 +0000 UTCA number of names reference?! My gahd Julian I love it. Great fuckin song
Kling Klang
2024-09-28 04:34:27 +0000 UTCSouthern listener here, love the accents
#1 Jeremy Roach Fan
2024-09-28 02:56:50 +0000 UTCThe young people are always the devil.
C’mon
2024-09-28 02:39:35 +0000 UTCKidding of course 😉
C’mon
2024-09-28 02:36:38 +0000 UTCI had limited info on this subject and this was eye opening. How can anyone “both sides” a violent, evil group like the Klan? fascinating but makes me feel like I need a shower. 😝
C’mon
2024-09-28 02:35:35 +0000 UTCwell said, jane!!
Michael Vader
2024-09-28 01:43:54 +0000 UTCThe documentary Who Put The Klan In Ku Klux Klan is a very good doc!
Chloe Showalter
2024-09-28 01:38:38 +0000 UTCWho else loves being one out of 11 southerners listening to this podcast
Chloe Showalter
2024-09-28 00:35:40 +0000 UTCFun fact about the plaque in Pulaski commemorating the spot the KKK was founded. It was flipped to face the wall in 1989 by the owners of the building to show the town had turned it’s back on the KKK.
Paul Moyer
2024-09-28 00:14:27 +0000 UTCAs a Northerner I’m suddenly concerned with the number of Southerners infiltrating our ranks. 😶🤣
C’mon
2024-09-28 00:07:03 +0000 UTC((I suspect there are more southern listeners than they suspect 😉))
C’mon
2024-09-28 00:00:39 +0000 UTCMissed you Jake 😁❤️
C’mon
2024-09-27 23:58:27 +0000 UTCNumber 14
Tom
2024-09-27 23:35:36 +0000 UTC“Klan War” is a great book detailing how Reconstruction met so many initial roadblocks but people didn’t back down. Gave me bump in respect for Grant.
Tom
2024-09-27 23:30:19 +0000 UTCNumber 13
Kenithe Biggs
2024-09-27 23:27:20 +0000 UTCQuebec: ‘now why am *I* in this?’
Laura Walsh
2024-09-27 22:04:15 +0000 UTCNC listener here. Jake, your accents and hat commentaries are always on point. And southern Julian is mighty fine. A truly horrifying tale of a not-so-distant era. Thanks ya’ll.
S G
2024-09-27 21:50:04 +0000 UTCFuck yea Sharevari!
Turtle Bugg
2024-09-27 21:29:28 +0000 UTCI really appreciated not only Devin O’Shea's writing, but also your horrified reactions and insights into the darkness of human nature. Yes, you all make quite a few off-colour jokes all the time, and yes, you pretend that you are just silly guys who make a lot of pop culture references, but when it comes down to it, you are deeply humane and caring people.
lady8jane
2024-09-27 20:56:57 +0000 UTCI guess I’m number 12. There are a dozen of us!
Behold a Pale Whore
2024-09-27 20:47:26 +0000 UTCWaves are wrong second was 1920s-30s and third was Civil Rights
Kyle Reesman
2024-09-27 20:40:32 +0000 UTCA MLM who terrorised people all around the U.S.
Martin Sirois
2024-09-27 20:40:12 +0000 UTCNothing is older than 200 years says the amerikan... my house is older than 200 mfer XD
Toadwine
2024-09-27 20:39:46 +0000 UTCBig day for O'Sheaheads
Grease Witherspoon
2024-09-27 20:34:14 +0000 UTC😂
Dave
2024-09-27 20:29:54 +0000 UTCMe too!!!!!
Dave
2024-09-27 20:28:51 +0000 UTCliv agar
ev
2024-09-27 19:42:59 +0000 UTCLissner
ploob
2024-09-27 18:31:11 +0000 UTCThe klan, when a horde of zombies just isn’t terrifying enough
Brent
2024-09-27 17:52:25 +0000 UTCSorry to be a downer, but the ghostly looking man in the photo is John Lester. However the young person in the front row is unidentified and could be the devil. UNC Press Blog, Courtesy of the Giles County Historical Society
Jose Chung
2024-09-27 17:49:52 +0000 UTCIf y'all ever need accents from any of the categories Houston, TX/Alabama/exactly Hank Hill, just lmk
Byron Lagrone
2024-09-27 17:23:15 +0000 UTCit's me, an 11 southern listener
Byron Lagrone
2024-09-27 17:22:04 +0000 UTCFun fact: the 2nd wave of the KKK was mostly an MLM.
batlock666
2024-09-27 16:45:00 +0000 UTCAnother of your 11 southern listeners. Like the accents. Need to add one with more twang, jake!
MmKay
2024-09-27 16:36:49 +0000 UTCWith a little Virginia mixed in!
MmKay
2024-09-27 16:32:00 +0000 UTCGreat show, my favorite podcast though
Alex Norris
2024-09-27 16:13:11 +0000 UTCThat's old upper crust Georgian accent. No one in Tennessee talks like that
Alex Norris
2024-09-27 16:12:25 +0000 UTCSt. Louis is lucky to have you, Mr. O'Shea
Jonathan Jones
2024-09-27 16:06:47 +0000 UTCY'all need to broaden your southern accent repertoire outside of Savannah, GA. It sounds like that's the only one you know 😂 great ep. I hope Jake feels better soon!
Mae Berlow
2024-09-27 16:05:11 +0000 UTCVery excited for this episode. My dissertation is on white surpemacist terrorism in the post-Reconstruction South. The history of the KKK is so much weirder than people realize. Can’t wait to listen!!
livlive
2024-09-27 15:47:27 +0000 UTCThanks for another great episode. Things really haven't changed. The song remains the same. Bad people, dressing up to do bad things, ignored (or collaboration with) cops, a clueless press, and inept federal government. 1860's same as the 2000s.
bigphoton
2024-09-27 15:33:29 +0000 UTCthe rhyming between the KKK, nazis, and Israel is insane but also so clear it’s enough to make you insane
Willie
2024-09-27 15:26:20 +0000 UTCListening to Jake's description of the founding group photo in the first 5 minutes and I'm suddenly much less surprised one of the Mumford & Sons members made a far right turn.
Gareth W
2024-09-27 15:22:52 +0000 UTCAny episode with Devin is an instant play
Hank
2024-09-27 15:08:48 +0000 UTCI'm sure you'll have more than 11 comments here from southern listeners alone. Y'all need to respect the listners out here in Magaland! Bless your hearts <3
Maggz
2024-09-27 14:54:29 +0000 UTCOooh, Devin O'Shea!
ploob
2024-09-27 14:47:44 +0000 UTCI am one of the 11 southern listeners and the accents are not forgiven. I do not appreciate the work y’all do! Going to cancel you on Twitter dot com for this one I’m afraid
Top
2024-09-27 14:35:10 +0000 UTCNorthern’er here and I am damn excited to hear bad southern accents.
Kristopher Snyder
2024-09-27 14:33:18 +0000 UTCSouthern listener checking in. You mock my ancestors, Jake. Prepare to be haunted by some really racist ghosts
Lane Miller
2024-09-27 14:30:37 +0000 UTCI am one of the 11 southern listeners and the accents are entirely forgiven. I appreciate the work y’all do!
Willie
2024-09-27 14:22:53 +0000 UTC
