Premium Episode 197: Bolsonarismo, Conspiracy Theories & the January 8th Riots feat Ben Fogel
Added 2023-01-18 03:16:58 +0000 UTCOn January 8th, in the city of Brasilia, supporters of Brazil’s ex-President Jair Bolsonaro stormed multiple government buildings. The Bolsonarista movement, as it’s known, had grown convinced that their idol’s 2022 presidential election loss was fraudulent. We explore what happened that day, the movement that spawned it, and the Brazilian new right — ascendant, extremely online, and with their own reactionary conspiracy theories. We also have a segment on how the American right is reacting to the events. Our guest is Ben Fogel, a contributing editor for Jacobin who is currently working on a phd in Brazilian anti corruption politics at NYU.
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Music by Pontus Berghe, Christiane Needs FX, CE. Editing by Corey Klotz.
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Comments
I was so confused it’s not THAT Ben Fogle. It’s a different one!
Joanna Mulvaney
2023-07-12 18:58:47 +0000 UTCThe chances of a military coup, especially a violent one, are low. Brazil, however, is not a safe place when compared to Western standards. Be cautious and make sure to insure any valuables.
Vitor Py Braga
2023-01-20 01:08:59 +0000 UTCAh, Olavo de Carvalho was a funny one. He had a long blog post claiming that Bill Clinton was an agent of the Chinese Communist Party.
Vitor Py Braga
2023-01-20 01:06:50 +0000 UTCI guess that would make Argentina the Spain of South America (or Portugal of the southern cone)
Isaac Suárez
2023-01-19 20:06:24 +0000 UTCAh, the Italy of South America.
Matt
2023-01-19 03:17:07 +0000 UTCAwesome guest. Brazil worries me. There's a serious possibility that in the not-too-distant future it could be consumed by a truly crazy, radical and violent right wing movement.
Andrew
2023-01-19 02:46:44 +0000 UTCI’m booked to do a music tour if Brazil in March, should I be worried you think?
Patrick Dexter
2023-01-18 21:40:37 +0000 UTCBeyond beating them up. Killing them.
Snickerdoodle
2023-01-18 21:37:28 +0000 UTCClearly funded by Big Rubber.
Snickerdoodle
2023-01-18 21:35:30 +0000 UTCIkr?...what do we beat up in Progressive protests? 🤔...I guess we invaded the personal space of a few trees? .... seriously though, I mean, no reason one can give makes sense out of beating up a horse as political commentary. 🥴
C’mon
2023-01-18 19:47:26 +0000 UTCChapo (usually Will) has great fun imitating Tucker, asking and answering his own questions for his nightly audience of clapping seals, most of whom have literally no idea of the ultra entitled wealthy origin of their adored host.
2023-01-18 18:47:14 +0000 UTCWell at least they can prove it’s real? 🤷♀️
Adalis
2023-01-18 18:36:08 +0000 UTCReally don't understand the Mastodon hate. If you want a nicer web interface, just use elk.zone. If you don't want to use it, just ignore it. If you need a SNS to hate on, there's one that re-adds literal Nazis on a weekly basis...
mʌp
2023-01-18 17:50:09 +0000 UTCProbably because the riot police are riding them
2023-01-18 16:21:00 +0000 UTCYou guys are the best. Thanks for all the help with solving the… Vindication day is soon.
Joseph
2023-01-18 14:45:56 +0000 UTCThe horse, a famously calm, predictable and diminutive creature, will entirely understand the righteous political reasons that have led you to punch it in the face.
Interested Third Party
2023-01-18 13:05:48 +0000 UTCWhat is it with right-wing conspiratorial protests beating up horses? I don't remember that happening at progressive protests. Seems like a useful litmus test for figuring out if you with the wrong crowd tbh: Is your crowd attacking horses? If yes, time to bounce and re-evaluate how you got here.
Overzealous Euthanasiast
2023-01-18 11:54:20 +0000 UTCTucker's sing-song presentation irritates the fuck of me.
Brad Plumb
2023-01-18 08:38:40 +0000 UTCNever log off. Never stop posting.
Lioness
2023-01-18 07:34:07 +0000 UTCGreat episode and guest
MB Kramer
2023-01-18 07:14:26 +0000 UTCWait. Praying to a tire? Was there a crucifix suspended in the middle of the tire and he was doing a unique form of Jesus-worship, or was this dude into some new automobile-based cult? I must know more!
David Fellner
2023-01-18 06:55:09 +0000 UTCThis was so fascinating. Tire worship is ....new.
C’mon
2023-01-18 06:01:53 +0000 UTC
