A Proposition Regarding the Future of TTS on Patreon

Either way, I'm behind it!

Aphala

My two-cents: do what makes you "happier". I myself hate the feeling of something hanging over my head. The way you are doing it is fine, I think. Especially so with the addition of the podcast and Vulcan spinoff. As someone mentioned above- why not give it a test-run, see how it works out?

Abayas

My opinion Is keep doing what you are doing take your time for awesome videos

ehh, nah. these things take time and they should be allowed to take time. perhaps post some production updates instead, to let people know you're not dead, at least?

In my opinion you should keep things as they are. Yeah the episodes are months apart but everytime we get nothing short of amazing, you have a system that works. Your'e worried about the production of your series, your'e running a business and thats tough, but I know that cutting these episodes to three parts will add more work and might mess up how the story is told because you'll have to edit things differently. You shouldn't be afraid of your patrons leaving you, we are more stubborn then Cadians, more zealous then Black Templars, more crazy then Sisters of Battle for your series and you have yet to let us down, We are not leaving anytime soon, at least until GW decides to create a whole new line of Squats miniatures because then we have to support that. I don't mind waiting 2-3 months for a TTS episode, I get other series in between and I consider myself very patient. if you'll still cut the episodes in three I'll still support this channel, heck it might be better, but I think the current way works.

Tish

Yeah man, whatever works best for you

If you're really sure it will ease the stress on you, then do it.

I like it!

Russel Not SCP

I don't believe you have to go out of your way to make 10 mins videos. Maybe just more feedback into how an individual episode is coming along or like a 30sec clip every once an awhile.

Holy shit it's been 3 years since you started your patreon... I feel old ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ

GUYFUN

For months now i've been thinking about how you take the pressure of making this series and the fanbase. Personally I think it isn't a good idea to give us shorter episodes just to then merge them for youtube. I think the solution is to continue giving us more short witty clips and maybe screenshots of your progress and any scenes you think could need the 'public' perspective.

GUYFUN

I do not like this idea. The best solution is often the easiest one and going to the trouble to chop an episode into pieces just to piecemeal them onto Patreon seems wasteful. Honestly, I'd rather you were taking a nap than spending time and energy on THAT.

Take the time you need i'd say, waiting is not a problem for me, so I'd rather see the whole episode, thought if it does help you calm yourself the go for it.

sounds fine to me old bean, but I'd rather be like Saint Ciaphas Cain :P (yes, there is a cult that worships him as a living saint)

Field Marshal Fry

This idea isn't half-bad actually. I'm all for this plan.

Tactical Suplex

Alfa I love you mate. But honestly, I would be completely fine if you just made say 10 min episodes like you want to and just release them as part 1/2/3 to the public and then release whole episode with the last part even if individual parts have massive cliffhangers (just don't cut it mid-sentence xD). I'm throwing money at you because I love TTS. And while I'm sure 99% of people would be perfectly ok with it. I'm worried that fixing this stress for you would lead to another one when some people start harassing you for "paywalling" or shit like that.

Hori

Test run, yes, I like test run, test run is good!

Alfabusa

Thank you for the extensive and thought-out comment! I absolutely see where you're coming from, and you're right in many regards. However, at the same time, I really do feel like I perhaps could make this work maybe somehow! Of course, as I established, this will ONLY be a thing on Patreon, and for those who feel like watching it in this format. I'm never going to be releasing them on YouTube in this format. So, while it will be bit rougher, the people who just yearn for TTS perhaps does not mind. In the end, the normal episodes will not suffer. I also feel that focusing on ~10 minutes of video at a time could up the quality of each segment, both because I focus on 10 minutes exclusively both while editing visuals and in post, AND because there may be people out there who will provide useful feedback on the segments that I can improve upon in the final product. That's my thought-process at least. I hope it makes even the barest sliver of sense.

Alfabusa

Thank you for caring. <3

Alfabusa

That is my primary concern always all the time, of course! But I'd be lying if I didn't say it has been quelled somewhat what-with all the extremely understanding comments that have been left here, which is also an incredibly nice feeling. Alfabus is alive and healthy thanks to you.

Alfabusa

Thank you very much! And yeah you're most likely right. A lot of people do tell me that it takes too much time, but those people are not patrons, and I have never heard such sentiments from a patron. However, as for the podcast, oh yes, absolutely, I will make more of those, currently working on a script as we speak as a matter of fact! Black Templar time!

Alfabusa

I wasn't sure how many would just wait it out like you've always done, but I am happy and relieved there are people who are so willing to do so!

Alfabusa

I'm glad you agree! I reckon full format change would be a bit sudden and shellshocking. Oh and yeah I know I tEND TO WRITE LIKE THAT BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW

Alfabusa

Watching a new TTS video without having to wait 3 months per episode? What an absolutely fantastic idea! Go for it, especially if it will make you feel better.

Aubury

I can understand why you would want to do this, it certainly has the benefit of us getting TTS episodes more often to sate our hunger for its fantastic story and comedy. But I personally prefer the way you are doing it at the moment, I feel they are worth the wait.

Mars Project

I say go for it. If it means less stress, then in means better quality. Plus, if you release a half video, then I'll watch that. Then when you release the second half, I'll watch the first half again then the second half. Then when you release the connected video, I'll watch it all again. So, you know, more views! And if anyone bitches about a paywall, then they can go suck a genestealer ovipositor.

Zack Coggins

I like it. Gives incentive for people to support your work without taking away content from the rest of your fans. Also barking Toad plushy when? I could see Vulcan giving one to his dear dead dad. "Look father! I have brought you a small deadly amphibian to keep you company in your endless existence of pain and misery."

brotherthat

Short answer: Whatever is easier for you and makes things less stressful. The long answer: I would suggest starting off with a few "test" chunks of content, just to test the waters and see how much of it would be leaked out to the larger audiences. While I believe everyone has been doing really well when it came to podcasts and previous episodes being released a few days beforehand, you never know nowadays about stuff like this. Still, if getting feedback while work is still in progress helps your stress levels, I say go for it.

CasketCase

This idea, it pleases me! I love your content as a whole and I don't mind waiting especially because you put so much time and effort into your work, which gives us better content in the long run. I understand how creative pressure can manifest, either as depression, stress, anxiety, etc. as I write myself and often go through the same process of self doubt and worry of people losing interest. That said if it would help you out, make you feel at ease, and the result is us getting piecemeal content for us to watch, hell I'm all for it!

Delta

I would love this :D

I personally don't stress out about it. I personally am a Patreon because of the quality of the content, not it's speed. But if it's less stress for you, go for it.

Jim McGeehin

Sounds like a win win, thanks.

Kevin Rodriguez

Whatever you are most comfortable with works for me. However, I would counter complaints regarding speed with the sheer length and quality that goes into your videos.

Glen Mallorca

Whatever makes you more confortable, m8. A happy Alfabusa is a good Alfabusa.

Go for it dude, doesn't sound like it'd delay the YouTube releases much, and you do have a decently sized patreon hoard to consider now.

As long as I get my Chainhammer, I'm good.

Sean Geraghty

I think the way you're doing it right now is fine. I'd rather see a finished product then get it bit by bit. If it's less stress on you then go for it and the last thing we want is this to become too much stress on you and everyone else.

Cyber

Whatever is easiest for you. If it is less stress I would say go for it. You can always do a test run and see if it works.

Liam Swinn

I like your work so I support it. You do you: if it helps you sleep at night and keeps your stress level down you produce your work however you care to. I can wait for full episodes (I know this stuff takes time), or I can check out pieces as you release them I won't know how it is until you try, and if I don't like it I can always just go back to watching the full releases! If it brings down your stress level, go for it I say. I know how much that can wreck a full time creative.

Trevor Bond

I am in full support of this. Have my HAMS sir.

Well, I honestly don’t mind waiting as long as it take to make the episodes Alpha, but if it helps with you being less stressed about not putting content in regular intervals then by all means do it. Im just here to help you keep making GLORIOUS videos.

UltimoPlayer

Oh, and one more thing: I think that "raw" previews and outtakes of WIP videos would be smashing for Patreon updates. We receive them in the mail, and it's always fun to watch a short one. I think that's a very good middle ground. Due to the nature of your videos, outtakes featuring separate short "skits" or just funny outrageous animations that are so abundant in your work (like a gruff remark then flying off on a jetpack) would maybe work very well as updates for supporters. Just don't try to cram your videos in an unnatural format for the sake of more frequent updates.

AyeBraine

Of course if you FEEL that you could do shorter 10-15 minute videos and it would benefit the format, go for it by all means. Again, you don't owe anything to the viewer really, at least in the realm of "oh, the first season had N x 20 minute episodes, and this one has N x 10 minute ones, y u do this".

AyeBraine

I'm REALLY not sure about this. I write for a living, and I write scripts for screen sometimes, and (as you of course know), a 20-minute script is significantly different from two 10-minute scripts or four 5-minute scripts. I mean, I'm sure you could create glorious 10-minute animations if you felt like it, but so far your main format is long, TV-show-episode-length videos - with ample time for long verbose jokes, monologues, joke arches, couple of locations changes and so on. You can't just chop these up in chunks. It's like dividing one MACK truck into five Suzuki Jimnys. There is a _reason_ for why you did such long videos for S1 - it's not that it's a standard for YouTube parody animation videos, on the contrary. I realize that _telling_ you to stop fretting about the pressure is very stupid, but frankly, you'll have to deal with it somehow (I certainly don't know how yet myself )). I'd say this is a solution that is invented to decrease discomfort and delays, but will create an enormous amount of new discomfort and gigantic hurdles and more delays along the way.

AyeBraine

I don't care either way. The people who watch your stuff and support your patreon likely think the same way. I know that not putting out a youtube video for awhile causes people to unsub, but exclusively putting parts of the videos here wouldn't help. That said, there are parts of newer videos that I thought could have been an ending to their own video, so you could just make episodes shorter. I'm not exactly short on patience myself, still waiting for Half-Life 3 over here.

medhathobo

The only issue I'd take with this is the "story phasing issues". Make that not happen, you are free to release chunks at a time.

Zatarra Manetti

I would say it would prob be better to stick with the old way. Also dont worry about releasing content all the time, quality over quantity and im pretty sure most of the people on this patreon know what they were signing up for.

I for one will not stop being a patreon even if the episodes take a while, and while I wouldn't complain about more frequent updates, I do think that the script may suffer if you end up trying to break it down in 10 minute segments.

Steven phoner

Honestly, as for the proposition, I'd have to know how much of a change this would actually make to the schedule. If it's from two months to one month, I'm honestly not really too fussed. The most important thing, though, is definitely your own mental health, and how you personally feel. If chopping up the episodes like that would be better for you, I am 100000000% for it. (Also, just an fyi that's completely unrelated, I freaking /love/ the podcasts. They are really, really good. )

acroPhobia

I am all for the idea, I think it will help shorten gaps and I am all for more content!

Bob Kyne

I mean. I like the teases. And I like my episodes lengthy. Soooo Do what you do now is something I like.

The better for you, The better for everyone =). The emperor concurs.

Ri Souza

I am of the mind that you ought to do whatever you feel you should. I wouldnt mind more frequent episodes, but at the same time, I cannot help but marvel at the small details I find in each one. I understand it takes a long time to make, so I can focus on something like my job or getting my master's degree in between episodes. In short, you do you boss. I'm with ya either way.

L. Wood

I would rather have half an hour episodes every 6 months rather than some short ones per month because long ones are much more satisfying *wink wink*. I mean really because of that I fell in love with your 1.5 hour long podcasts. Even so if it will make you more relaxed (or less stressed) and some people happy, do it. I will just ignore them and wait for the full release.

I will probably wait to watch the full episodes anyway, but as a lot of the others said above - I want you to pick the option that makes your workflow easier and your life easier.

By all means if it helps relieve stress for you go for it Alfa. Just because people are asking and pressuring you for video doesn’t mean you need to stress yourself and staff. Your videos are the type that need time to make and when there done their some of the Best videos I’ve seen in a long time. For example......Voxcast Episode 1, I LOVED the Debate between the Emperor and Priest explaining the pros and cons of the warp.........oh um spoilers. At the end of the day you do you man.👍

Kamen Astartes

i dont think is a good idea, your staff is good, but this is just one step foward to privatice things , i cant talk for everyone else but im supporting you because i like your staff and lets be honest here , not everybody is going to pay for it , still your staff is good enought to share it with as many people as possible, and just want so show you some appreciation , watching earlier a few days i think is enought, but , your decision mate, im just a regular guy with a personal opinion.

lol32

mate take your time. your content is so good and the wait is not an issue. dont worry about stress take yout time and make the best show you can. we will still be here. GW took 20 years to advance the 40k plot and people waited that long and didnt leave so whats a month or 2 to us?. do what ever you feel happy with.

nat3.desperles

fUCK YOU ALFABUSA STOP PAYWALLING CONTENT

Aidan

Dude, of course it's fine to split it into parts. While you do get patreoned for the episodes, you started doing it for the fun of it and that usually shows in the "love" put into each episodes (even though there are mistakes in the subtitles, but we are all make mistakes). Best you do it on your own pace, so you can make excellent episodes while enjoying them with your friends. The worries you mentioned are real, but relatively small compared to stress building up and then we suffer from the drop of quality and you suffer from the accumulation of stress and bad thoughts. EDIT: Thank you very much for all the fun episodes thus far and hope you will get the peace of mind you wish.

I'm not a patron of yours (yet) but I think this is a great idea. More regular content, even if it is in smaller chunks, would be far more preferable than going weeks/months and suddenly getting a TTS surprise in my Youtube subscription feed (which is nice, but waiting that long without content can disillusion the impatient out there). Other content providers do a similar format on Youtube so recreating it on here should not concern you at all. Personally I think you sound paranoid somewhat. Just relax more in the knowledge you produce brilliant content and have a whole lot of eager fans that will happily support you regardless of changes you want to make.

Kashim

I like it

CzarNicolasIII

I am happy for w/e you choose though has the thought of bringing this to GW and seeing if they would like this series enough to back it

Deliciously Decadent

I'm happy to support still either way man. You do what works for you :)

Shane Heppenstall

I'm fine with waiting, but if shorter chunks makes your life easier then I'd absolutely be happy with it.

Kami-Kaze

I’d be happy either way. Whatever you do Alfa it’s always amazing. I didn’t become a patron because I expected to get something out of it, I became a patron because your content is hilarious and clever and I love it. I’ll always be here no matter how long you videos take to come out.

Conor Gordon

"I am constantly stressed by the fact that I haven't released a video in a while". This is all I care about. If your new idea eases stress in ANY WAY, go right ahead and do it.

Kirk Rowe

10 min chunks would be fine. there's a reason nobody minds waiting for these episodes - because we know how much time goes into creating the videos and as long as the quality is there in the end product there are no issues. You are right to be concerned however, since when people sponsor on Patreon they may have an "expectation" of an episode/content per moth or whatever (since sponsorship is "per month").

I'm happy with whatever I get tbh as someone who has edited small shitty things I can only imagine how many hours go into a TTS episode. It's always worth the wait no matter what & I seriously doubt anyone currently here would abandon you because it takes time to make episodes, because it always has, that's the general understanding of (hopefully) the majority of the community. I'm totes down for the segmented episodes here if you feel like doing it but I could take it or leave it, I'm always happy to wait. I love The Emperor Had A Podcast series maybe those more regularly could fill the gaps? Even then you still put a lot of effort into those too so I dunno! *throws brick*

If it makes you feel better, do it. I'd wait for the full length videos if you did because I like them better than all them cliffhangers you'd get with 10 minute videos :)

Paul Calhoun

I like the idea of previews in small chunks as it does give you something to hold you over before the full episode is released. Though yeah don't do this for the entire mass as it is a large shift in the format. Just Patreon is just fine. I say go for it if you think it's best! Also that f in "fUCK YOU" is lowercase when it's all caps.

Puff Dreemurr

I think it makes a lot of sense, especially when it comes to easing stress about producing videos often enough.

Very much appreciated!

Alfabusa

Dew it!

Dude anything that makes it easier on you to keep doing your fantastic work is worth doing

Eoin Thorpe