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Punching Day: Robot Jox 🌭

There are reasons giant robots show up again and again in our fables and legends. One, they’re big enough that they don’t have to listen to what their mom tells them to do. Two, they let someone engage in physical combat even if that someone has incredibly soft hands and is sitting in a comfortable chair. End of list. That’s all they need, and don’t let anyone ever try to justify these things more to you - they make no sense physically, mechanically, or tactically. They are completely and solely a power fantasy treasured by children and underdeveloped men, and I love them so much.

Which is why I was shocked and angered that Robot Jox hadn't been discussed on this site yet. "I'll get to fixing that," I said from my comfortable chair.

Robot Jox is a very late '80s movie about robot combat that was made by a film studio with nowhere near enough money or robots to actually do such a thing. You can be forgiven for having never heard of it, because the studio actually went bankrupt while making it, leaving no money for the part of the process of “telling people” they’d made a movie about giant robots. It was in and out of theatres so fast it was effectively a straight to video release, but again, they forgot to tell people they made the videos too, so it’s really just turtles all the way down here.

The other reason you can forgive yourself - honestly stop beating yourself up, this isn’t worth it - for having never heard of Robot Jox is because it’s not actually that good. And it’s not even that bad. It has none of the defining qualities of a cult classic, and is instead just a cruddy movie that has been made with a shocking degree of professionalism. I mean that! Using modeling clay, a mostly empty room, and the best actors within arms reach, these people actually managed to tell a story about giant robots. Well done them, and it’s a shame you will forget the movie as you are watching it. So take my soft hand and join me as we celebrate its feats.

Robot Jox takes place in the future, as you'd expect, in a period just after a nuclear war. War is now outlawed - which is so smart, we should do that - and now all disputes between the two superpowers are settled in one-on-one fights between building-sized robots. The robot fights, which are kind of the whole point of this movie, are all done in stop motion, which is crude but surprisingly effective. Despite everything, the big cool fighting robots look like big cool fighting robots, in a way that modern Transformers movies can't pull off, so much so that it seems almost churlish to point out the number of wires visible in the scenes.

Our hero is named Achilles, and if you were thinking this is the movie setting him up as someone with a fatal flaw that will be exposed at a critical juncture, stop. Just stop. This movie isn't that clever. You're only hurting yourself. Achilles is nothing more or less than the best pilot the Americans have, thanks to
 some personal qualities he must have, they’re not really mentioned. There's a lot of martial arts training, that's for sure.

A word about the actors: They're all doing their jobs. They are actors, and they are acting, and I want to be clear that this movie is not bad because of them. They are probably doing more with the material than the material has done for them, and for that we should all be grateful. That said, it is impossible not to notice how they all look like store brand versions of other actors. The hero is clearly a cheaper Jean-Claude Van Damme, his buddy is 90% of John Goodman, etc.

Plot wise, there is no plot. Achilles, and his Russian foe, Alexander, are nominally fighting over the rights to Alaska, but this so beside the point that it's almost insulting to mention, I'm sorry I did that to you. No, if this movie is about anything, it’s a character study of Achilles, the man with few if any identifying qualities. Let's break it down, regardless: Achilles initially wants to fight Alexander because Alexander stepped on his friend. (In the lingo of the movie, this is not known as "Joxing Off," which is a large missed opportunity.) Anyways, THAT'S A GOOD REASON. Achilles is going to fuck Alexander up, he is pumped up, and so are his friends.

And then they fight in
 well they fight in a small studio where men carefully pose robots like dolls. But the small studio is made up to look like a desert. Which makes sense, you'd want to keep the building sized murderbots away from people, except there are actually people there.

But there is safety glass, and boy you’d hate to guess what might happen if that glass wasn’t there when a 200 ton robot sits down on it.

That's right, in the very first full fight we see, a building sized robot smashes into hundreds of people, killing them.

Anyways, now Achilles is sad, and he doesn't want to fight, and we get to the "middle" of the movie where there is no fighting. There’s just nothing but dialog and character building and other things which lean on the strengths of the script, which, again, aren't there. Here, look at this bullshit.

This isn’t just a screenshot. The director very carefully framed this shot for several seconds. Why did he laboriously set up this image of someone making the world's most famously easy origami model? Has the director done this because an origami motif is about to unfold here, just like I did within this very sentence?

I’m not even sure if that’s racist or just lazy! There's more. The guy named Tex wears a cowboy hat.

Also, for some reason all the Robot Jox - American and Russian - all hang out together in this one bar.

Does this make any sense? No. But they needed a fucking place to do some dialog and no robot fights, and this room was available, so here we go. Put on your jumpsuits, everyone.

The whole middle of the movie is like this. Sure there’s a love interest, and clones, and betrayal, and none of it fucking matters, because there’s no robots. I want to be clear this isn’t just me and my soft hands angry about the lack of toys, you can feel the movie itself contemptuously plodding through all this, angry that it couldn’t just sell 43 seconds of stop motion robot fighting as a full movie, but not wanting to put in the hard yards to make the rest of the film.

The robot fights resume eventually, thank fuck, and there's explosions and robots joxxing all over each other. But by this point you can sense they’d gone so long with no robots that they had to cram all their robot ideas into what remained if the movie's - hang on I'm going to look up the actual number to get this right - hahahhahhahahahhahhahahhhahhhhhahhhhhha 85 minute running time.

Here's an example of what I'm talking about. So Alexander has robot joxxed into an advantageous position, and in his massive, arachnid-like robot, now looms over Achilles.

It's a pretty serious situation, but however you think Achilles is going to respond to this, you're wrong.

Because Achilles responds by leaping into space.

Physics talk. Going to space is super hard and requires all sorts of rockets and fuel tanks and math, none of which are present on these robots at all. At no point has anyone mentioned off-hand, "oh yeah, these things can go to space, it's a thing that happens sometimes." Never happens. But here he just fucken up and goes to space, I'm guessing solely because someone thought it looked cool. It's incredibly insulting if you know anything about space at all, and that actually gives a big hint about who this movie is for, mainly 5 year old children. Because six year olds will know enough about space travel to know this can't happen.

Anyways, it seems Alexander can also go into space, so he does, and while there shoots Achilles in the foot. Then they return to Earth. Like exactly where they started from. The whole thing was somehow more pointless than the 60 minutes in the movie that weren't robots fighting.

The robot fight, which now seems almost absurd to still be continuing, continues. Achilles, now in a robot less a foot, transforms into a kind of tank thing, which one, ok, and two, means this whole time he had been piloting both a robot and a rocket, and both a robot and a tank. Which seems like a lot. It also means he now has to scoot along the battlefield like a dog with anal gland problems.

He scoots underneath the crotch of Alexander. Alexander's crotch unfolds a chainsaw.

What happens next isn't as sexual as it could have been, which is just tremendous news all around. I don't think I could have written this article if it had. Eventually both robots get destroyed, and Achilles and Alexander fight with sticks for a bit, and then they very rapidly decide to stop and be friends instead. Then they do this.

Credits roll, movie over, quest complete. This movie is fucking done with itself.

In short, you have never seen anything like Robot Jox, because movies are normally made by people who know how to make movies. So what happened here? Like who the fuck wrote this thing?

Wait. What? Joe Haldeman is a Hugo and Nebula award winning author. His whole thing is writing incredible stories, usually grounded and sober ones that illustrate the costs of warfare and the toll it takes on the people who fight in them, themes not so much absent from Robot Jox as much as they are actively refuted. War, violence, and Robot Joxing, in the movie’s mind, is awesome, and has few downsides.

It seems that while Haldeman tried to write something sane and grounded, as he does, the people paying for the claymation crossed all that shit out. Every day, this whole movie must have been one long, exhausting argument between grounded realism and producers shouting LOL, ADD MORE JOX TO THE ROBOTS, JOE. PUT A CHAINSAW WHERE ONE'S DICK WOULD BE.

Recast in that light, you can kind of see Haldeman's influence here. There's a bit about Achilles having a contract that some jerk in a suit tries to screw him on terms, which is a very Haldeman kinda plot point, which lasts entire seconds before the movie gives up on it. And the villain, Alexander, is mostly evil, like 90 or 95% evil as these things are measured, but beneath the scenes and the dialog and the robots abruptly going to space, you can kind of sense he's trapped in the same kind of situation as Achilles. To be clear, drawing parallels between the protagonist and villain isn't precisely advanced screenwriting, I think a lot of Mad Libs actually set this up for you, but it's something.

And that spectacularly inappropriate ass pat? I forgot! I TOTALLY FORGOT. That's a fucking plot point. My same ass-grabbing guy at one point uncovers an imposter by patting them on their ass. He detected the ass was different! They set that up so well!

Yeah, yeah, you can kind of sketch out a better story with the pieces here. A trophy fighter with no choice to fight, risking his life so that no-one else has to risk anything, standing across the battlefield from someone in the same situation. Does he escape, or allow himself to be replaced with one of the test tube people, bred to never even be able to understand the hell of their existence? (I skipped past this; it seems important now.)

But in my heart of hearts, I don't think that movie ever existed. We can't retcon Robot Jox into a hidden gem; this movie is literally one person smashing action figures together and another person trying to give those action figures lines grounded in a place deeper than 'JOX FOR ROBOTS.'

I’m going to be honest with you - gestures for you to come closer to my comfortable chair - when I first remembered Robot Jox, I was like “Oh great, I’ll be able to talk about how awesome this movie is, or failing that, how awful it is. I can’t possibly lose!” And then I watched it, and reader, I lost. Robot Jox isn’t amazing or terrible, it is the most profoundly C- movie that has ever existed.

Which made me realize every movie must have gone through something like this, a thousand arguments and compromises made between people who hate each other. It's a miracle we ever get anything as artistically cohesive as Citizen Kane or Caged Heat. In fact, nearly everything must have gone through something like this. How many fistfights erupted about the kerning on the font on your bag of Doritos? We are surrounded by the work of people, some of them talented - but far more who aren’t - some of whom cared - but far more who spent their days staring at the ceiling, silently mouthing “Fuuuuuuuuuuck, let’s just finish this.”

What I’m saying is the whole world is filled with people making Robot Jox.

So let’s try to all acknowledge how basically adequate that is.

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Comments

I remember we rented this once for our weekly Bad Movie Nights and at the end of the movie we were disappointed because, like you describe, it's just profound C-. There's not much here to really latch on to to either mock or enjoy, which is a colossal sin - as colossal as that one robot's chainsaw dick.

petertron

Been a long time since I got the Bucholz discharge. Good stuff. Goooooood stuff.

estrin42 .

Less funny but real answer: We both copy edit articles, including each other's. We'll occasionally edit a guest column if the writer is rusty or inexperienced -- but even that's just for readability and some cuts. This is exactly what Bucholz turned in. 90% of the content you see on the site is exactly how the writer wrote it, because we're very picky about who gets to write for us. And we want you to see what they can do, rather than what we can do. That's the key to keeping different voices intact. But Seanbaby does all the photoshops for everybody except Brockway and Brendan - and even then he steps in sometimes. He is a beast. You make good use a beast, when you have one.

1900HOTDOG

I assumed all editorial disputes were resolved by Hotdog Kumite. What that means and what the rules are is a secret, and may or may not change every time, depending on who is competing in the Hotdog Kumite. You could be participating in the Hotdog Kumite right now, and never know, its so secret.

Flippant Sausage

Me too! I don't remember quite how I got to an article about how to fight 20 children but it was an eye opening experience.

Flippant Sausage

I unironically love this movie, even though I haven't seen it in probably fifteen years. Giant robots, a main villain that the hero comes together with in the end to show how we could end the Cold War with a fist bump, and a naked Athena seen at just the right point in my young life.

Clifford Tunnell

I'm fairly sure the creative back-and-forth is solved by kick-boxing and probably an occasional harpoon gun.

Skink

I remember watching this with my Dad in the earliest part of the 90s, so I must’ve been about ten
 it’s occasionally entered my thoughts since then, but I remember remarkably little about the actual plot or characters. Guess now I know why. Although it’s good to finally put a name to the series of disconnected images hidden deep within my brain, thanks Bucholz!

Christopher Horne

It is interesting that this article actually touched on something I've wondered about, and apologies for getting meta on a Tuesday... Since 1900HOTDOG has gotten to be an entire comedy ecosystem, and I assume that Seanbaby is the Editor for these articles, I wonder if the "thousand fights between people that hate each other" happen here. Did Seanbaby get a draft version of this article, and angrily reply "'All Art is Mediocre'? is that what you are going for on a Tuesday article? When you have a robot chainsaw dick just staring you in the face?" and then there was an involved and emotional back and forth where the author refused to sacrifice their artistic integrity in making a statement about the banalization of the creative process in a commercial environment instead of talking about robot dicks and asses? Did this article actually face the same creative process as the movie itself, and then finally everyone shook claymation hands? Anyway, I would give this article a far better grade than C-, especially since, unlike yesterday's Fabio article, I didn't have to find a towel before I started reading.

Matthew Harris

Fact: Bucholz's article on how to fight 20 children was the first article on Cracked I read, and the standard I held the site to for a long, long time.

Vooster

I'd like to think it doesn't make him a hero or villain. But more of an agent of mischief. Like an agent trickster god

DeltaFoxtrot

I don't need your forgiveness, Bucholz. I have watched this movie more times than is safe for developing brains. I DO need a new comfy chair, though. Any recommendations? What works best for joxxing?

Jeff Orasky

Honorable mention goes to the '94 Battletech cartoon, which tries, and is insane but lacks chainsaw dongs and assplay.

Flippant Sausage

The idea of college students being made to watch and analyze Robot Jox for a grade is just......really brightens my day.

Flippant Sausage

Bucholz brought the comfy chair! I'm so there for it.

LyraV

First, I saw Chris Bucholz and did a little squee. Just putting that out there. It's because of Chris that I won that fight with 20 children. Second, Robot Jox is one of my favorite movies that I have never and will never actually watch. Look, I like giant stompy robots, and the movie actually has some good ones for the period. Very "Budget Mechwarrior", which appeals to me aesthetically. So I have this wonderful vision in my brain and watching the movie would replace that with boring ass facts about a fairly bad movie. I'll stick with the film that plays every week in the theater of the MIIIIIND!

Flippant Sausage

I'm not sure if that makes you a hero or a villain, but I'm a big fan of your work.

Pablo Rodriguez

the only venn diagram worth drawing

SoylentRobot

I love robot designs where they try to cram as many weapons into them as possible. So good job, Robot Jox, with inventing weaponized tea-bagging.

Dan B

This film really does occupy the space between Transformers (robots brawling in the desert), Real Steel (robot martial arts for our entertainment), and Battle-Bots (chainsaw dick).

Brendan McGinley

Bucholz, you magnificent robo-bastard! How close did we come to getting an '80s syndicated cartoon based on this inappropriate source material?

Brendan McGinley

yes this made me spit out my maple waffle flavor k-cup coffee when i saw mr. haldeman's name he is a bookmobile favorite of mine camoflauge awokened some not exactly binary feelings in me he has my gratitude for that i bing'd did he really write this robot movie and the internet says yes he did: "He was not entirely happy with the product, saying "to me it's as if I'd had a child who started out well and then sustained brain damage""" so maybe we can learn from this and still love Robot Jox but don't let it get away with pulling other peoples hair

sissyneck

Cool story Bro time: my wife is a professor who sometimes teaches a course called 'Classics on Film.' When she was first putting it together I talked her into including this one as a sci-fi Illiad. So hundreds upon hundreds of students have been forced to watch this because of me.

Chris W.

that's real steel, I will not hear nor will I read nor acknowledge anything negative about that movie.

DeltaFoxtrot

Hey its a Bucholz piece, dope. This article was two treats and no tricks. Three if you count the way I can now describe my favorite genre of film "They're all doing their jobs. They are actors, and they are acting, and I want to be clear that this movie is not bad because of them. They are probably doing more with the material than the material has done for them, and for that we should all be grateful."

DeltaFoxtrot

i thought this was about that hugh jackman movie where he coaches a boxing robot with his kid (?)

SoylentRobot


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