slop, adhd & getting older | patreon ep. 13
Added 2024-12-08 16:00:10 +0000 UTCComments
This is one of my favorite episodes I have watched so far. It really got me thinking about life and how much slop actually does exist and how I have also fallen victim to it. I can’t really describe the feeling I’m experiencing after watching this but thank you
Lexi
2025-02-17 19:53:35 +0000 UTCHearing jack talk about adhd and getting diagnosed and the fears about getting diagnosed is making me more confident to try and get diagnosed because I’m pretty certain that I have it
Keira
2025-02-13 18:54:53 +0000 UTCI’m so glad Tommy mentioned Succession when he was talking about good quality entertainment still existing!
Madeleine Carson
2025-02-11 00:28:13 +0000 UTCI completely appreciate Tom’s optimism but I think his perspective is narrowed by the media he consumes himself. If you think about it on a much larger scale, ‘slop’ as Jack calls it is kind of just hyper consumerism. It extends to what we buy, the rise of things like Shein and Temu where you can buy crap products for less money, meaning you can have more, rather than having less but with each item having more value to you. I believe that consumerism genuinely is at an all time high in a way that has never happened in the past and it isn’t as simple as people will get some perspective because I think the masses are genuinely addicted to it. Sure TV shows and films still get massive viewerships but it’s still all instant gratification. When you have endless choices, you’re inevitably going to choose media that suits your own personal echo chamber, even when it comes to what you watch and what you read. This isn’t to say that everyone is caught up in it, but if you operate using the internet (including downloading films and books and using delivery services) you are going to be susceptible to the obsession with instant gratification.
Ellie
2025-02-07 07:04:36 +0000 UTCI wonder how the boys feel about the recent David lynch news :/
Kai
2025-02-01 19:59:21 +0000 UTCthis is a really good episode
Otis
2025-01-28 00:46:07 +0000 UTCShit’s getting profound
Ella Belec
2025-01-26 23:14:30 +0000 UTCYeah 100% agree, its so weird being on meds because all the effort you put into school work starts paying off. I also notice that I get irritable when their wearing off, but knowing the reason why helps.
ArtE
2025-01-23 21:28:13 +0000 UTCJack accurately described what its like having adhd, at least in my personal experience. For me however I was diagnosed very young, and started medication in 5th grade. There are some days where i forget to take the medication and its like losing my soul for the day, all productivity goes out the window.
ArtE
2025-01-23 21:23:51 +0000 UTChey Jack, if you're wanting to watch more films, Warner Bros posted their film on Michael Collins for free on youtube. it's an amazing film about one of Ireland's greatest in our revolution. dont know if you'll see this, but you do PLEASE watch it. it's a great anti slop film imo
Evan
2025-01-21 18:36:16 +0000 UTCi just found out david lynch passed away literally 5 days ago (rest in peace) so uhm... sorry champs 😥
recoplayer
2025-01-20 22:12:32 +0000 UTCreally liked hearing Jack talk about his fears with getting an ADHD evaluation and diagnosis, because that's almost exactly how i felt before every diagnosis i've ever gotten. pretty much every person i've talked to about getting any kind of diagnosis has very similar fears, too. it's reassuring every time tbh, that no one is uniquely alone in their fears. thanks for talking about it<3
Claire
2025-01-11 08:14:09 +0000 UTCtype shiggles
Liv and Toby (goated)
2025-01-11 07:58:37 +0000 UTCI really do reckon its just bc the internet is a new medium, a new way of living. The invention of the printing press contained all sorts of social upheaval, it'll find its feet eventually
Weevil (evil)
2024-12-31 16:32:22 +0000 UTCHistory repeats itself first as tragedy, second as farce, and sometimes the world needs more farce despite the raw and true nature of tragedy
Danamon
2024-12-22 06:42:55 +0000 UTCgod i remember how frequent those elsagate and elsagate like videos were coming out
Thomas Miles
2024-12-22 05:45:46 +0000 UTCI’m Tommyinnit dinner
Tommy innit diner
2024-12-18 20:53:12 +0000 UTCpls post the audios alone again i can’t set turn off timer on videos 😭🙏
Lauren Coffey
2024-12-18 02:06:16 +0000 UTCi told a friend earlier this year i didn’t know what i’d do if I didn’t end up getting diagnosed with adhd (i did) because i needed help. I had my first week of grad school finals last week and it was emotional cause i’ve never been ABLE to work so hard in school before. My personality’s still the same and though my meds don’t mean I’m doing assignments early, i’m able to do an assignment when I sit down to do it instead of just staring at it. My personality’s honestly better cause I’m not so drained all the time (although I do get annoyed easily when my meds are wearing off for the day) if it helps, it helps!
madmerlow
2024-12-17 10:04:59 +0000 UTCwait so tommy finally realized he has adhd
Brithwoods
2024-12-17 07:17:01 +0000 UTCFor me a part of the reason the content slop feels so miserable is bc like tom said, a lot of the current viewers are children. I'm reminded of all the "spiderman x Elsa" vids from a few years ago, and now children are being raised on technology since pretty much day one. The slop and speed is ruining an entire generations dopamine receptors. I don't like the idea that small children (and teenagers) are going to spend their days watching 20 second long edited clips of TV shows with subway surfers gameplay while scrolling through the comments. Plus, while previous technological scares were usually either just a presentation change (records to DVDs), ai content entirely removes the creative and human aspects of art. I don't think AI will take over the world or anything, but I do think that current slop is particularly concerning from an artistic standpoint. (Obvs part of it is that parents need to stop giving their babies tablets and monitor what they watch, but those points can coexist)
croc odiel
2024-12-15 18:37:59 +0000 UTCI just watched bo burnhams interviews for eighth grade and i can tell you’ve seen them all
Jaiveer
2024-12-14 18:59:16 +0000 UTCJust watched now. Loved this episode so much. Such a nice change of pace especially from the NON patreon ep 13 with blood worms
JonKan
2024-12-14 07:11:25 +0000 UTCreally good episode, loved the diagnosis bit! it helped me put my own into perspective and feel understood :)
Belamy
2024-12-13 15:54:27 +0000 UTCI like the episodes where you both just chat about more personal or deep thoughts, it’s always meaningful and just enjoyable to listen to :P
Valerie
2024-12-13 14:09:34 +0000 UTCI’m Tommyinnit dinner
Tommy innit diner
2024-12-12 21:14:11 +0000 UTCI will be departing with the Patreon to Go to the goofy people(not pledgers) farewell Patreon. Will be coming back in a few days.
The Kirby man guy thing
2024-12-12 18:38:36 +0000 UTCAs someone who has had ADHD and has been on meds for practically my whole life, there’s nothing to fear Jack - whenever I take them, I don’t lose any of my personality (and I’m a very bubbly positive and energetic person) at all. It just kind of places a filter almost? I’m not sure exactly how to explain it, but I’m a very impulsive person - I do a lot of things when I get an impulse. Like for example, if I get hungry I will just want to eat anything and everything because it all just sounds good to me (to the point where it gets unhealthy sometimes). But on my meds, I can say “okay, I’m hungry, let’s see - do I like the idea of a burger? Nah, probably Chinese food instead” and it filters those thoughts down a bit. And it doesn’t just stop there - I’m a streamer and I used to worry the same thing of if I’d be boring on stream if I took my meds, or if I’d be too concentrated in tournaments or just lose my personality. But, once again, it wasn’t the case at all. If anything, it made my creative process easier, purely because I was able to think properly and get better jokes in, or better quality ideas for stream, etc. It doesn’t affect me at all. But also, this episode is very much so quite meaningful, and I’m fuckin 20 - the way you described slop and the way it is right now, I completely understood as soon as you started talking. I think people in general are seeing the way things are and are too afraid to try new things because of how much they depend on success. I think people on this platform especially (pretend we’re on yt) are waiting for something to tip over the ledge and start that new “wave” like you mentioned happens once every few years - like how we went from 2018 to 2020. That wave really feels like it should come within the next 2 years, and I don’t know why. It’s also meaningful because of how you described having adhd - I got it completely, as if someone was taking my experience with it and just putting it into words. The way I usually describe it is “my brain doesn’t have a focus onto it, it’s more like having 10 or however many of those dvd logos that bounce around in my brain, and every once in a while one thing hits the corner and that’s my motivation or thoughts. Having those dopamine things like tapping your leg sometimes rattle it so it happens faster, but sometimes it just doesn’t work. I’m writing this at 1am and when you mentioned that sort of experience of “being able to see the option but it’s greyed out” I was in adhd paralysis myself - I couldn’t get up, like my mind wanted to and I told myself “you need to get up” but just… couldn’t. Until you mentioned getting enough dopamine did I get up - so it’s a very real thing. Anyways, sorry for the long rant, good ass podcast episode, and I’m sure you lot won’t see this ever o7
Emily Cupcake
2024-12-12 06:03:45 +0000 UTCon the adhd medication topic; i'm a musician and i abstained from medication for a while after my diagnosis because i was scared of losing my personality or my sparkle as such, especially since so much of my education/job/interests relies on my charisma and personality i gave medication a go and i have never been more fulfilled and felt more productive in my entire life- i became a better person across the board in the way that i'm less impulsive and i get less discouraged by failure, and i'm able to do the smaller tasks within the 'big things' (if that makes any sense). i feel like theres a lot of negative sentiment towards meditation and whether or not they zombify people, but if anything im more confident and social, and a lot more comfortable in that sense. hope it all goes well, this shits hard
emily s
2024-12-11 07:11:21 +0000 UTCwatched this mid niko b gig, may be missing out on making genuine memories but the shut up im talking grind doesn’t stop
digitalpupz
2024-12-11 02:46:16 +0000 UTCThe is the perfect podcast to consume slop to
UltimateGoose 58
2024-12-10 21:38:29 +0000 UTCThe stroke
UltimateGoose 58
2024-12-10 21:36:14 +0000 UTCI’m Tommyinnit dinner
Tommy innit diner
2024-12-10 20:53:31 +0000 UTCas someone who is in the process of diagnosis as well, everything jack said resonated with me as one of my biggest adhd struggles is the big tasks paralysis thingy too. my friends who r diagnosed and medicated say the normal pills dull down their personality, so they just tend to take them when they need to do work or a big task. Just want my damn normal pills so i can LOCK IN (watching this to avoid 2 evil essays. thanks guys!)
Ella
2024-12-10 18:17:20 +0000 UTClove the dancing in the dark reference
Nea
2024-12-10 14:44:35 +0000 UTCI totally agree he’s so unbelievably relatable when he discusses it!
Ginny
2024-12-10 12:35:17 +0000 UTCI’ve always thought Jack could be ADHD/ADD as someone that has it lol especially when you spoke about how you struggle with the time/ lateness, sensory things with food and avoiding tasks.
Ginny
2024-12-10 12:34:01 +0000 UTCcongrats on the award tom❤️
Josh
2024-12-10 07:59:14 +0000 UTCi wanna talk to you mr manifold hearing you talk about adhd has been so great thank you
Josh
2024-12-10 01:32:54 +0000 UTCholy shit the amount of comfort i got from jack about my potiential adhd diagnosis is immense thank you so much for the podcast boys
Josh
2024-12-10 01:30:56 +0000 UTCoh god ive mever looked at the science for adhd but this all makes so much sense
Josh
2024-12-10 01:28:49 +0000 UTCfor that "test" thing where you got 36 and stuff i have done so many of those and i get such high scores but im just worried its not right.
Josh
2024-12-10 01:27:07 +0000 UTCi have comfort in jack having the same thoughts as me. im on a waitlist for an adhd diagnosis and i have the same thoughts and feelings about big tasks and i think about the pills so much as i know they'd be SO helpful. i also get so worried that i wont get diagnosed and im just not good at life or something? its all evry scary and i just want to know if i am
Josh
2024-12-10 01:25:42 +0000 UTCi agree with all the slop talk apart from the curry
Josh
2024-12-10 01:13:00 +0000 UTCwhat a great ep! i really enjoyed it, i have a lot of the same existential thoughts when it comes to how culture will continue to evolve.
grace
2024-12-09 22:50:19 +0000 UTCI appreciate the slop rant Jack. It’s something that’s been on my mind for a while as well. I paused this episode to go get some lunch and on my way I saw a 2 or 3 year old almost walk straight into a fella cause he was glued to an iPhone. Not only is adults who are susceptible but kids are being raised to consume it too
Nathan Little
2024-12-09 22:11:29 +0000 UTCwas really nice to listen to Jack explain adhd. I don't know why- but i've just never heard someone explain my exact experience word for word
Nike
2024-12-09 20:55:30 +0000 UTCThis episode is making me think I need to go and get an ADHD diagnosis
Tess
2024-12-09 20:21:54 +0000 UTCI’m Tommyinnit dinner
Tommy innit diner
2024-12-09 20:08:37 +0000 UTCI was gonna make a comment about how this podcast has been a good thing to spend my downtime on whenever I need *something* to keep myself occupied with, rather than watch whatever quickform content I get my hands on - to add on to my whole ramble.
siofrain
2024-12-09 19:06:32 +0000 UTCNothing beats a Patreon episode and a couple Luna Rue comments to read along with it, all is well with the balance of the universe. Also, this year, I've consumed a lot of slop content and I find it helpful when I open my browser to look at my tabs and determine "do I care about this? Is this worth watching?" and going immediately off my gut feelings. It cuts off a lot of excess stuff I've clicked on the day prior (or throughout the day) and keeps my tabs clean. This is also to call myself out for having way too many tabs open on my browser... overall, I hope everyone down here in the comments is taking care of their wellbeing and evaluating the things we spend our valuable time with. Thanks for the episode!
siofrain
2024-12-09 19:03:02 +0000 UTCbruce springsteen being quoted every single moment by tom is the funniest shit hes actually just like me with bruce + fontaines dc TOM LISTEN TO A HEROS DEATH BY FONTAINES DC YOU WILL LOVE IT
Toby S
2024-12-09 17:46:46 +0000 UTCcame over from 15 minutes into the spotify episode to comment thag my snapchat private story name has been innitenterprise for two and a half years and it will never change
Truu Love
2024-12-09 17:20:04 +0000 UTCRelate way to much to Jack right now, considering getting myself tested for ADHD now
Omar Hajimatov
2024-12-09 17:04:26 +0000 UTCive been thinking about this episode all day 🙏🙏🙏
Florence Lee
2024-12-09 16:12:24 +0000 UTChonestly i’ve never had such an epiphany listening to jack talk about his struggles (even though im going through the process of getting diagnosed) and it definitely made me feel better that i probably do have it and the voices are wrong 😭😭😭
belle
2024-12-09 16:07:56 +0000 UTCThis made me realise that much like Jack, I too am susceptible to the slop. Hearing Jack's perspective, I agree completely that the internet especially has become so void of substance and it's really a bit miserable to think about sometimes. But hearing Tom's thoughts was really meaningful - I'd like to think that one day I can also stop perceiving everything as slop, and find meaning in more of what I do. This is still the best fiver I've spent in a long time - thanks for the episode, and for showing us substance and creativity in a time where many of us struggle to find it for ourselves <3
Amy Spencer
2024-12-09 14:29:27 +0000 UTCSadly I don't have the time to take my time. Because I am busy with work 9 hours a day, need to do chores and eat as fast as possible to at least have some free time left . The reason the world is slop is because we do not have the time to go slow.
William
2024-12-09 11:58:27 +0000 UTCi think this episode has made me seriously realize and start considering i might have adhd
etherlyy
2024-12-09 11:52:50 +0000 UTCTom if you want to make art people remember... I think u are doing really well. You were there when I chose my career path, you got me thru COVID, helped me thru my finals... When I got diagnosed with ADHD, when I got my first job.. all thru making me laugh and comforted. I remember promising myself to get my own place when I was watching you. The same way people promise the ocean or The moon... I guess you are my ocean... Am about to get my own place and you are still here... It's been an honour growing up next to you ❤️❤️❤️💯
Luna Rue
2024-12-09 11:19:01 +0000 UTCI kind of get what you mean but it sounds like your saying trying to enact positive changes in society is a bad thing we should try and change having a positive outlook is good too but we’re part of the world not just our own brains and why are you turning it into a weird essentialist gender thing 😭😭 I get that white men probably aren’t reminded of social injustices as constantly as someone who is more affected by them but it sounds like you’re saying oh men think like this and women think like this and this is bad and this is good which is kind of a strange thing to say. I really hope this didn’t come across as rude or passive aggressive I just don’t really agree sorry 😭😭
Abanpii
2024-12-09 11:18:19 +0000 UTCJack you really cute 🙂 your personality is. Also I have Ur kind of ADHD... I get it. It gets better.
Luna Rue
2024-12-09 11:12:16 +0000 UTCDon’t usually comment but just wanted to say how nice it is to hear jack talk about his adhd. He doesn’t even have an official diagnosis yet and he explains the symptoms better than I can even though I’ve had my own for a couple years now haha. Helps actually put it into words.
Simon Toast
2024-12-09 09:10:33 +0000 UTCAny1 else realise they have every symptom jack listed to the letter?
william Rogers
2024-12-09 06:24:35 +0000 UTCI think that it is the tendency of a lot of people, especially white men, to identify a problem and instantly try to solve that problem on a global, societal scale, probably because every time a problem gets solved for them it is at least partially due to their “solved” status in society, but either way—Jack. Perhaps the slop you’re trudging through is actually part of the simulation. Perhaps your mind is melting and perceiving slop where there shouldn’t be because you have brain cancer. Perhaps a million other things, ultimately the point is that the world is just as “sloppy” as you, yourself, perceive it to be. Because that’s the only thing you can really rely on to be true, and it’s the only thing that can ever define reality. So just like how Tom doesn’t see any slop whatsoever, you, too, can one day live in a world where the slop is cured because it does not exist because you choose not to believe that it exists. Men think that the way to solve a problem in life is to create a plan and enact it on a global scale. Anything to avoid doing the work of looking inward and allowing yourself to be at peace with your reality, and allowing your focus to change. 🤍
Lorien
2024-12-09 05:35:44 +0000 UTCadhd talk same day i get my adderall refilled AWESOME
Nathan Huchton
2024-12-09 03:37:37 +0000 UTCNo way did Tommy say he doesn’t have adhd after info dumping last episode AND dead on explain a hyper fixation
APOLLO !!
2024-12-09 01:38:24 +0000 UTCmajor YAP sesh this week (and I loved it)
embyveddii
2024-12-09 01:23:57 +0000 UTCSame mate
Jaiveer
2024-12-09 00:58:45 +0000 UTCjack talking about adhd really ran true to me i spent many an hour over sixthform sat at my laptop feeling physically unable to to work and wondering what was wrong with me and in the process of getting an autism diagnosis wondering if i was faking it and then panicing that they would tell me its not autism
Ethan Jones
2024-12-09 00:09:47 +0000 UTC‘everything is slop’ really insightful
jess
2024-12-08 23:12:06 +0000 UTCactually really appreciated the more introspective tone of the episode - the general downturn of the internet has been something weighing on my mind a lot so it's comforting to hear you guys (jack especially) talk so candidly about it, particularly given how, as content creators, you're both very much at the epicentre of it. also appreciated jack's vulnerability in talking about his adhd symptoms - really made me feel seen as someone who is also going through the diagnosis process, haha
Madeline McGinnis
2024-12-08 22:14:34 +0000 UTCamazing episode! i had the same thoughts of ‘my personality will change, i won’t be as funny’ when i got my first adhd medication prescription. for me it was a learning curve, once i got used to being able to focus i would compare the difference when i would take it and not. then i naturally started to keep up my humour around friends and kind of relearn how a neurotypical person battles working and being socially like yourself. obviously when i dont take the meds i feel MORE out of control and all over the place but you will find the right meds will mellow your brain out and actually be able to function as a working adult. thanks again for this amazing podcast guys!
Isabelle Pallister
2024-12-08 22:08:06 +0000 UTCIf it's any help at all, the way I'd describe my personal experience with adhd meds is normally my brain is like a chrome window with 20+ tabs, always switching between them and distracted by how much is going on, but when I take my meds I just open a new window. All of the tabs are still there in the background, but I can focus on one at a time.
charles 🐛🫧
2024-12-08 22:01:26 +0000 UTCyou guys are seriously the best this podcast makes my day
Jessica Hill
2024-12-08 21:41:45 +0000 UTCgreat way to start my monday morning aha
Casey
2024-12-08 21:06:27 +0000 UTCThanks for opening up jack. If this provides any comfort, i feel more like myself than ever when i pop my pill. Best of luck to you!
Gabriel Butenhof
2024-12-08 20:27:08 +0000 UTCIt’s important that when we see someone doing something creative and unique that’s not slop we give it attention
Evan Inc
2024-12-08 20:07:24 +0000 UTCW SUNDAY BOISSSS(and Girls lol)
The Kirby man guy thing
2024-12-08 19:44:20 +0000 UTCgreat episode! i loved hearing jack talk about adhd. i didn’t get diagnosed until i was 17 and finally getting an explanation for why my brain wasn’t functioning the same as everyone else’s was such a relief, amongst other feelings. i also have the worry sometimes that i’m not the same person on meds, so i completely understand that. but my experience was emotional too, so it’s comforting seeing someone else have that moment
Emily
2024-12-08 19:36:23 +0000 UTCThis was a really awesome and introspective episode fellas. As someone quite interested in this wave of mindless slop we've been receiving online recently, it's great to hear you discuss it so honestly. Got to be one of my favorite episodes!
Cryptid
2024-12-08 19:28:08 +0000 UTCloved this but i'd rather have some lighthearted stuff to watch during my downtimes so looking forward to next week
jamiestonks
2024-12-08 19:05:19 +0000 UTCwow, this was an amazing episode, i really enjoyed how in depth you guys went on the slop, i think it definitely gave everyone who watched it more happiness and hope for the world :)
aidan
2024-12-08 18:30:01 +0000 UTCMy boss won't give me a break and I blame you guys. Happy sunday!
Lunar
2024-12-08 18:21:25 +0000 UTCloved the episode! also congrats tommy on winning your Sarcoma award :)
Lauren
2024-12-08 18:18:13 +0000 UTCThe patron episode is wayyyy better than the main channel this week!
Sander Wong
2024-12-08 18:15:18 +0000 UTCgenuinely great episode, had some really interesting insights into art and the internet culture as a whole which just made me feel a bit less shit about it all
Finley
2024-12-08 18:12:39 +0000 UTCOne of the best episodes on the patreon I say. This is why I pay $10 CAD. Going to watch Up now.
Alison
2024-12-08 18:08:31 +0000 UTCjust heard from the youtube this’ll be a lighthearted patreon episode, im sure it wont give me mass insight and reflection at all! (ALSO CONGRATS ON THE SARCOMA AWARD TOM)
deanko
2024-12-08 17:58:39 +0000 UTCThis should be good
Avery Clancy
2024-12-08 16:11:51 +0000 UTCslop? like pyrocynical?
bella gamblefold
2024-12-08 16:10:40 +0000 UTCHAPPY SUNDAY LES GOOO
Olivia Pittman
2024-12-08 16:07:22 +0000 UTCyesss!!🤞
Florence Lee
2024-12-08 16:04:14 +0000 UTClet’s gooo another week from the boys
Josh
2024-12-08 16:02:44 +0000 UTC
