UNCUT - The Next Phase (TNG S5E24) | Star Trek Journey 231
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The incosistency of these physics interactions depending on orientation would have Emmy Noether rolling in her grave. But still one of my emotional favorites, and a cool concept. S
temsik28
2025-03-09 05:49:41 +0000 UTCOne quick correction to something you said at the end: this actually wasn't the late 90s, it was the early 90s.
Matt F
2025-03-02 20:40:33 +0000 UTC1. I didn't realize until this viewing how perfect the Ro/Geordi pairing was to represent the whole religion vs science viewpoints of death and the afterlife and whatnot. 2. The pool table is what people call that center console in the middle of engineering. 3. Unless Ro and Geordi both held it in for two whole days, there's probably a phased pile of dookie or two permanently living somewhere on the Enterprise LOL.
Kino Bambeano
2025-03-02 20:01:34 +0000 UTCOne comment on the discussion with regard to limitations of the medium and leeway, this wasn't the late '90s. This episode came out in '92, and what's more they turned this from final script review into a final completed episode in almost exactly eight weeks which is pretty nuts (15MAR to 18MAY). Final script revisions, shot, rough edited, VFX sent out for, re-edited with VFX, approved for air all in eight weeks.
tkitez (take it easy)
2025-03-02 12:47:36 +0000 UTCThanks, Alex, I’m glad I’m not the only one who had that thought when Geordi and Ro touched. “So, Ro, as far as you’re concerned, I guess I’m the only guy in the universe….”
Richard Finch
2025-03-02 02:36:36 +0000 UTCThat's why I don't want magical immortality, only biological. So, I can still die from external forces, but my body doesn't degrade (or can be repaired prior to disease and death).
Paul
2025-03-02 01:38:38 +0000 UTCRemember, if you don't die at some point the sun will go red giant and if you are truly immortal you will be within the expansion and pulled into the center of the sun eventually burning for billions of years.
Eric Wilson
2025-03-02 01:24:33 +0000 UTCThey can pee through any wall off the ship. Or on any floor and no one will ever know. Maybe someone they hate. Pee in there room itll always be there and they will never know.
Eric Wilson
2025-03-02 01:22:33 +0000 UTCGravity plating is complete rubbish but it exists in the universe.
Eric Wilson
2025-03-02 01:20:57 +0000 UTCIf they can move air into their lungs to breathe though and to expell it they just have to blow morse code into Data's ear and they are good to go.
Eric Wilson
2025-03-02 01:20:23 +0000 UTCI figured he was pretending and standing in a sitting position which is why he was so still, it was a lot of focus to do.
Eric Wilson
2025-03-02 01:18:33 +0000 UTCThe only thing that REALLY bothers me in this is if they can breathe air, they are moving air, and they can blow in someone's ear. That and Geordie could have sent a message to data when he was scanning the disruptions and that if Geordie's hand was "partially brought back" and it showed resistance going through, he should now be able to apple SOME force to things to move them.. I figured the not falling through the floor could be gravity plating or something.
Eric Wilson
2025-03-02 01:17:16 +0000 UTCThis sounds quite logical indeed:)
Derek Orr
2025-03-01 22:17:27 +0000 UTCexactly its far more believable than some newer trek
Derek Orr
2025-03-01 22:16:49 +0000 UTC@Michael Metrick There's a happy medium. Because I am somewhat scientifically minded and because I am not a complete idiot, I am sensitive to the scientific realistic-ism present in science fiction. I just cannot "suspend my belief" of science fiction that throws what we know of science out on its ass. The best science fiction stories, I think, weigh some of what we know to be correct with headroom as to what the future *might* hold. I can "suspend my belief" that there is some aspect to matter that we don't understand right now that allows matter to "phase". We do know for sure that all energy (and, by extension, matter) in the universe presents as waves, and that waves can be out of phase. I can easily "suspend" my disbelief that changing the phase of matter would—in real life—make it disappear. I don't believe this makes sense for reality, but I can still go with it in this episode. Hearing the ship whir by in space makes no sense, and makes me cringe a little each and every time, but I can get over it because I know it's a TV show that has to meet people on their expectations. But the inconsistency and rationale of walking through walls, but not falling through floors, I can't look past. It's too glaring, too jarring, really it's too silly. Take that and then realize that "sometimes" they don't pass through things (chairs, consoles, transporter equipment) when only the plot demands it, and you have what I call weak writing. The "science" in TNG is mostly well imagined and consistent, and I appreciate that. That's why it sticks out so much when it's not those things!
Jovet
2025-03-01 17:26:50 +0000 UTCI know these things may work for you in your head, but just so you know, these explanations are complete rubbish.
Jovet
2025-03-01 17:08:48 +0000 UTCYes
Josh (Target Audience)
2025-03-01 16:01:35 +0000 UTCHave you guys actually already finished watching Season 5?
The_Truth
2025-03-01 15:11:15 +0000 UTCSketchy seeming physics, but what do I know; I stopped going to physics class first semester. Love this ep!
rear adm. crackbiscuit
2025-03-01 09:58:57 +0000 UTCLast week Geordie is cold as ice to guinan and puts her in her place. This week he throws a man into outer space. Geordie LaChad has arrived.
Wrestling With Gaming
2025-03-01 04:59:43 +0000 UTCOoooooh man. I've watched this episode so many times and never picked up on that but now that you say it, it's very obvious. Thanks for the call out!
Wrestling With Gaming
2025-03-01 04:52:44 +0000 UTCScience Fiction relies on a certain amount of suspension of disbelief to work. Maybe scifi just isn't for him. Like, did he have an issue with the artificial gravity? Can he get past Star Wars aliens all having two arms and two legs?
#MaxwellDidNothingWrong
2025-03-01 04:15:16 +0000 UTCColm Meaney was off doing films during this period.
Collin Freeman
2025-03-01 03:54:20 +0000 UTCMy old man didn't like Star Wars because in his mind the hangar bays of the Death Star were open to the vacuum of space yet people could breathe and didn't get sucked out. I commented that the blue perimeter lights at the entrance indicated an active force field tuned only to contain atmosphere. He was having none of it. Some people have a very low tolerance for suspension of disbelief. They aren't so fun at parties either.
Sherpa Jones
2025-03-01 03:52:15 +0000 UTCI was surprised Josh and Alex didn't recall the scene from "The First Duty" where the admiral said that even after a loss, life moves on and there are still duties to perform. That IMO gave the perfect backdrop for what we see here. In "The Bonding," the circumstances were different in that the crew weren't actively aiding a ship in distress that could blow up in their face at any moment. And to me, Crusher saying "I just hate filling out death certificates" is something you say in shock over a loss, as a nod to "I hate having to accept that they are gone." Because let's face it, humans do go through shock when someone dies. When I had my cat put down I didn't feel any grief for weeks. I agree to an extent with your comments about "nutrek." For me it started with Star Trek 2009 with Chris Pine. George Kirk was composed and professional right to the end. He didn't waiver one moment about his choice to send his pregnant wife off the ship without him. It was his duty to protect everyone else. But then we see later that it is acceptable to antagonize the acting captain until he loses emotional control, so that regulations require him to be relieved of duty. (Or to be promoted to "first officer" [not an actual rank but I digress] from a cadet, but I digress.) Then in "Into Darkness" Spock breaks character to rage fight Khan over Kirk's apparent death. It feels like this alternate timeline treats the destruction of the USS Kelvin as their 9/11 event and now the Federation lives in fear and emotional frailty. You see Kirk apologizing to his crew in the second movie, when he is about to give up hope. OG Kirk was never like that. Starfleet's job is to turn brand new recruits into officers who have the emotional resolve to perform their duty despite their emotions. In the movie "Into Darkness," the only two characters I really respected were Admiral Pike, and Captain Frank Abbott of the USS Bounty, who Spock was to report to as first officer. That guy was all business and no BS. But I digress.
Sherpa Jones
2025-03-01 03:49:39 +0000 UTCA happy belated birthday to Alex. And Josh, I think I have that same henley shirt.
Collin Freeman
2025-03-01 03:48:33 +0000 UTCFor the floor, I'm with the guy who said there is probably a technobabble explanation with the gravity plating. But still, the Romulan was sitting in a chair. Should I accept that chairs have gravity plating? I've watched this episode many times but this time I picked up on something that I hadn't seen before. After Ro and Laforge are phased back to normal and they start embracing, Riker moves to Ro's left, an hand on her arm, and leans in and kisses her just above the ear. A hint of a romance? Or of lingering feelings? It is very brief and right at the edge of the scene.
Sherpa Jones
2025-03-01 03:29:29 +0000 UTCSeems like a solid explanation (heh). This is now my head canon as well!
Ryan Caulfield
2025-02-28 23:19:48 +0000 UTCA few holes in the plot keep it from being a great episode but a solid one
AzoriusMage
2025-02-28 19:13:59 +0000 UTCHappy Birthday Alex! 🥳
Bret Kay
2025-02-28 18:44:57 +0000 UTCHeadcanon technobabble explanations for how being "out of phase" works. Things we actually know: they interact weakly with things they pass through, leaving a chroniton field behind. An anyon field, even a weak one, brings them partially back into phase and lets them interact more strongly with things. How do they stand on the floors? The artificial gravity is generated in the floor plating, and the magic sci-fi tech to generate gravity also, as a side effect, generates a strong but extremely thin anyon field on the surface of the floor. So the soles of their feet are brought back in phase enough to not fall through the floor. How do they interact with the air enough to breathe, speak to each other, and hear each other and everyone else, but everyone else can't hear them? We know they interact with things they pass through, enough to leave behind a chroniton field. Perhaps when they pass through an object, it temporarily pulls it slightly out of phase with them. The molecules of a relatively rigid solid object get rapidly pulled back into phase with the rest of the world by their bonds with the other molecules in the object. This violent snapping back into phase generates a chroniton field. But for individual disconnected molecules, like gases such as air, they shift back into phase with the world much more gradually. So since Geordi and Ro are constantly passing through air molecules, they're constantly pulling a small pocket of air out of phase with them, and that allows them to breathe, hear, and speak. And something about the interaction between phased and unphased air molecules makes this a one-way thing: sound in normal air can be transferred into the phased air that Geordi and Ro are breathing, so they can hear everyone else. but sound in their air can't be transferred into the unphased air of the rest of the world, so other people can't hear them.
Jeff Cornell
2025-02-28 14:21:18 +0000 UTCthe floor is different then a wall. in the floor are the gravitation stabilators (or so).
Redjac
2025-02-28 13:38:25 +0000 UTCI mean, they do show emotion, but when appropriate. Even under dire circumstances like crewmate death, they'll keep their decorum and composure and get the job done. I like how serious the show takes the crew's characters, as being part of a legitimate organization. They're friends, yes, but Starfleet is equally important.
Paul
2025-02-28 07:21:08 +0000 UTCOr when Riker finally listened to a Worf suggestion
Fishing Trip
2025-02-28 06:13:33 +0000 UTCSome lovely Bajoran culture mentions, and her rebelling against them. Great analogy of a child rebelling against their parents religion.
Badger
2025-02-28 05:17:38 +0000 UTC“She was a firecracker in bed!”
tyranusfan
2025-02-28 03:59:33 +0000 UTCThat’s exactly correct
tyranusfan
2025-02-28 03:54:30 +0000 UTCDo they need to pee? If Geordi was super hungry, then how much pee was he holding? Great discussion as always.
T’Pynyn of Vulcan
2025-02-28 03:53:44 +0000 UTCI don't know there is a certain type of episode i love the most, combining fun, emotion, action, and a good story. It helps that i love the Romulans and Ro too.
jon bolton
2025-02-28 03:36:27 +0000 UTCThese are professionals they dont stand around and cry, Watch nutrek if you want to see constant crying
Scarpad’s Domain
2025-02-28 03:31:39 +0000 UTCStar Trek is a scifi drama, not a documentary. 😉
Column Meanie
2025-02-28 03:19:17 +0000 UTCThis is the perfect example of 'suspension of disbelief' done well Why don't they fall through the floor? How can they breathe? etc etc Every audience has a finite supply of 'disbelief' they can 'suspend' before they check out of a story, and this currency must be carefully spent by the writers. But if the story is compelling enough, an audience will pay that toll to go on the journey. So if the writers do a good job with everything else being believable, and the only cost to pay is one or two small details unrelated to the primary narrative, it doesn't feel like a hard price to pay. Sci-Fi relies on this and Trek is famously good at managing disbelief, be it the transporters, replicators, warp drive or whatever else. If you agree to a teeny bit of hand wavium, they'll make it worth your while because everything else about the story and the characters are grounded, fleshed out, and believably motivated.
#MaxwellDidNothingWrong
2025-02-28 03:12:19 +0000 UTCI'm pretty confident he died, given they were just out of phase, their bodies still operated within physics, needing oxygen, water, food, etc... I think the fact Geordi was shown to be so hungry was meant to imply the Romulan died within seconds after being pushed out.
Paul
2025-02-28 03:00:32 +0000 UTCI loved the funeral scene. If I ever pass (here's to hoping we hit lifespan escape velocity soon...) I'd want my gathering to be jovial, sure, think of me, who I was, the experiences we had together and all of that, but have good food and drink instead of slouching in silence in a stuffy room. Just because more memories with me can't be formed doesn't mean the old ones have to be soured by grief.
Paul
2025-02-28 02:59:22 +0000 UTCMore power to you, Jon Bolton! There are plenty of episodes I like more, but I think it depends on what you're looking for, right? This is the episode you pop in if you want a fairly light, fun time. Which is curious to note given that a funeral is involved.
Paul
2025-02-28 02:56:06 +0000 UTCI was hoping you guys would like it. There are some plot holes but the concept is fun sci-fi and the moments between the crew are touching and informative. :)
Spritzy
2025-02-28 02:16:25 +0000 UTCOne thing i'm surprised you didn't laugh at or comment on was in Ten Forward when Ro fired her weapon straight at Riker's head lol.
jon bolton
2025-02-28 02:09:06 +0000 UTCThe insignia was inconsistent because they hadn’t really given non-officer ranks much thought.
Aramis Calcutt
2025-02-28 01:35:46 +0000 UTCThey called him Chief so he was a chief petty officer. If he had been an acting lieutenant they would have called him Lieutenant.
Aramis Calcutt
2025-02-28 01:34:56 +0000 UTCThis is my favourite episode of TNG.
jon bolton
2025-02-28 00:57:54 +0000 UTCso super random, last night I had a dream with the "Shoot 'em" line. Hard to remember exactly, but there was someone who was like, questioning that for some reason and I was trying to defend the person who said it which was actually me... it was dream logic, but I thought that was kinda funny. I think the guy who was mad about looked like the Federation president from Star Trek 6.
paultardspambot .
2025-02-28 00:28:21 +0000 UTCNo, he didn't.
Darin Wagner
2025-02-28 00:25:33 +0000 UTCthey did, you just couldnt see it
paultardspambot .
2025-02-28 00:23:52 +0000 UTCNo, because he is an acting lieutenant on the Enterprise
paultardspambot .
2025-02-28 00:23:21 +0000 UTCHe was a Chief but had a commission of acting lieutenant to avoid him being outranked by people working for him
paultardspambot .
2025-02-28 00:22:00 +0000 UTC"Chad" as in "badass example of something"
paultardspambot .
2025-02-28 00:20:32 +0000 UTCas in the light and sound waves should pass right through them. I guess we have to just say "well, particles interacted with them in small amounts or something.
paultardspambot .
2025-02-28 00:19:48 +0000 UTCalso being able to see and hear.
paultardspambot .
2025-02-28 00:19:00 +0000 UTCI think the Romulan was phased by the explosion. I don't have a problem with them standing on things, gravity is a different force then electromagnetism so it makes sense they could be affected by gravity. What bothered me was- ok do they breathe? Or see? or Hear? You have to come up with some kind of "oh, the particles are interacting but just very lightly but then they should be out of breath. Also if it was two days.... well, I guess they had some cleanup to do. Gross. The thing with Ro touching her chair was weird, I guess I would say she didnt actually touch it exactly, just moved her hand like she was touching it?
paultardspambot .
2025-02-28 00:17:57 +0000 UTCYeah, not a lot to add that wasn't covered in the discussion and patron takes. This one is just a really solid, fun episode that made good use of a whacky scifi concept. The phase cloak seems like it could be pretty OP as a weapon. Put one of these devices in a torpedo, have it pass right through an enemy ship's shields and then return to normal phase and detonate inside the ship. Then again they presented both a means to detect and neutralize the effect here, so countermeasures are possible. Pretty cool to get 2 solid(or not so solid in this case) Geordi episodes in a Ro😉. The team up also worked quite well. Ro hasn't had a ton to do this season outside her debut and Disaster, so it's nice to see them making more use of the character. I agree it's not quite at the level of S tier, but it's one I'm always down to watch.
Timothy Nikiforovs
2025-02-27 22:11:23 +0000 UTCNo, he didn't.
Darin Wagner
2025-02-27 22:05:50 +0000 UTCSomething-something life support systems automatically detecting their needs and providing breathable, phased air.
Nolan
2025-02-27 21:33:13 +0000 UTCnah, he dead. Geordi was starving by the time he got returned to a normal state, you can absolutely go a couple days without food or water. Biggest plot hole is how they breathe.
Timothy Nikiforovs
2025-02-27 21:29:12 +0000 UTCI don't really have a problem with Rikers little smile to Worf. You see people have those reactions all the time after someone dies...human grieving is a funny thing. Riker knows Picard never listens to Worf that's why he smiled. Lol
Greg Quinn
2025-02-27 21:28:12 +0000 UTCYeah breathing requires the oxygen to interact and be absorbed. If you are passing through everything the oxygen would pass through as well. But...ehhhh...I just try to turn my brain off
Greg Quinn
2025-02-27 21:26:05 +0000 UTCSame with the disruptor blasts getting stopped by the walls, shouldn’t they have passed through?
Worf and Riker Ride Again
2025-02-27 21:22:56 +0000 UTCWhy not say human male specimen
Josh (Target Audience)
2025-02-27 21:22:45 +0000 UTCNow if he is floating and still alive...Geordi and Ro know and they know they shoved him out at a certain room and they could probably guesstimate what speed he was going (looked like maybe 5 to 10 mph) so even hours later they would probably be with 100 kilometers. Id imagine Data and Geordi could figure out a way to more accurately detect him.
Greg Quinn
2025-02-27 21:22:34 +0000 UTCI can accept some kind of artificial gravity explanation for not falling through the floor. But how are they breathing? (This is an idle nitpick; I love this episode even though the concept doesn't really hold up under scrutiny).
Steven Linden
2025-02-27 21:21:01 +0000 UTCShe’s always been great and looks great at 60! Or whatever age she is?
Philbot
2025-02-27 21:19:34 +0000 UTCDude had a lot of bad coming but probably not that much. He's still floating in the year 2410. Lol
Greg Quinn
2025-02-27 21:19:04 +0000 UTCI can’t wait! But I wonder 🤔 Sometimes the guys can be contrarian.
Philbot
2025-02-27 21:17:32 +0000 UTCWhere did fail whale 34 go to
Fishing Trip
2025-02-27 21:17:25 +0000 UTCYep. Ensign would be a promotion. So Chief O'brien definitely had to call Wesley "Sir" at some point.
Nolan
2025-02-27 21:16:11 +0000 UTCI love the time SG1 worked this question into the episode script.
Timothy Nikiforovs
2025-02-27 21:16:09 +0000 UTCBeing hungry would have proven to Ro she’s not a ghost.
Philbot
2025-02-27 21:15:42 +0000 UTCI’m always like if gravity works on ghosts so does artificial gravity. 🤷♂️ Maybe it’s like a mind over matter thing? If you believe you can can still walk you can.. some ghosts float..
Philbot
2025-02-27 21:13:31 +0000 UTCThe repeated references to a Chad will always sound so bizarre and weird to me. Like why not just say a guy or dude. 🤷♂️
Derek Orr
2025-02-27 21:12:23 +0000 UTCThe romulan was very much dead. No reason at all to think the phasing included a portable artificial atmosphere and life support system
Derek Orr
2025-02-27 21:11:34 +0000 UTCIt wasn’t cheesy to me, unlike some of the awkward TOS laughing on the bridge at the very end, this one was more authentic and believable
Derek Orr
2025-02-27 21:08:49 +0000 UTCI think, in this situation, Chief is rank, not position. Like Chief Petty Officer
Jason Lallathin
2025-02-27 20:51:48 +0000 UTCHey, we love when Geordi gets some time to shine. And the Geordi and Ro team-up in particular feels really fresh. They're such different characters with complementary strengths. All that plus some deceptively emotional moments. Great stuff.
Ally Roth
2025-02-27 20:47:05 +0000 UTCCongratulations on another year Alex! Remember, any day you wake up is a good day! Love this episode, good premise, good acting not an obvious ending. Hmmm, did I say A on this one or S?
Jason Lallathin
2025-02-27 20:45:04 +0000 UTCAlex jokingly said that the transporter chief should have been busted back to ensign. Just want to point out that chiefs are enlisted and don't start out as ensigns.
Darin Wagner
2025-02-27 20:39:59 +0000 UTCWow you learn new things everyday, also I think some how they could breath out of phase air, so he is a full dead pop cycle.
John Rose
2025-02-27 20:25:29 +0000 UTCYes that has been my head cannon as well, it always bothered me I can remember when I saw the episode when it first came out and sure enough that's what was killing me. I wish Georgie would have just said something like what you said would have taken 2 seconds
John Rose
2025-02-27 20:22:50 +0000 UTCThis was a good one, but Ro tends to do that to the show.
Ken R
2025-02-27 20:15:38 +0000 UTCMore horror for the Romulan in space. It seems in their phased state the don't need to eat. We don't see them sleep so we can assume they don't. They just...exist. So it is possible that Romulan will drift through space....alone...for eternity. Brrrr.
StealthMomo
2025-02-27 19:50:32 +0000 UTC“Not this time” - Jonathan Frakes
Josh (Target Audience)
2025-02-27 19:28:33 +0000 UTCThought you were going to immediately post the next episode The Inner Light, one of my favorite episodes of the series
The_Truth
2025-02-27 19:15:07 +0000 UTCFunny enough, I was thinking the same thing when watching it here and hadn't thought of it before. I was like "ugh, what cover are you taking guys?"
THE LORE!!!
2025-02-27 18:38:47 +0000 UTCSuspension Of Disbelief. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suspension_of_disbelief#:~:text=Suspension%20of%20disbelief%20is%20the,actions%20and%20experiences%20of%20characters.
Michael Metrick
2025-02-27 18:30:38 +0000 UTCThey’re alive. No reason to warn the dead in Sto’vo’kor that they are coming
Mosquito_Wenzi
2025-02-27 18:28:51 +0000 UTCIt's called Suspension of Disbelief. There no way to watch ANY science fiction without it. If the story is good, then none of the so-called inconsistency matters. If you can't accept that, I'd recommend not watching any popular fiction at all.
Michael Metrick
2025-02-27 18:27:18 +0000 UTCI always figured they don’t fall through the floor out of habit. If they thought about it, maybe they could walk on the air or step down to the deck below
Mosquito_Wenzi
2025-02-27 18:25:07 +0000 UTCI love the Ro character so much. I feel like she elevates just about every episode she's in.
Spencer Loften
2025-02-27 18:19:32 +0000 UTCOne thing made clear is Captain Picard thinks very highly of Ro Laren.
Mark Chrisco
2025-02-27 18:17:45 +0000 UTCEven more confusing, is O'Brien is initially shown as a lieutenant JG I believe. It's an irritating oversight after decades, that the enlisted corps is basically composed of rankless "crewmen" with an occasional petty officer of some sort, though I can think of only one time in canon where O'Brien's full rank is even stated.
Aaron Wells
2025-02-27 18:12:23 +0000 UTCOne of my favorite episodes, I love a good phase-shift scifi story
Doug
2025-02-27 18:03:22 +0000 UTCI love the story of Picard handpicking Geordie for his next command. It makes me wonder why no other Captain is poaching officers from the Enterprise.
D Jammers
2025-02-27 18:01:42 +0000 UTCOh, scientifically, this episode makes NO sense. But it's just fun, regardless, as long as you don't try to think about it too hard.
Ian Westcott
2025-02-27 18:01:39 +0000 UTCThis is a fun episode that would make Neil Degrass Tyson sooooo angry
Phil Ken Sebben
2025-02-27 17:58:20 +0000 UTCGot it.
KatWithAttitude
2025-02-27 17:57:31 +0000 UTCYep, the Chief would have to call the newest ensign “sir”
Phil Ken Sebben
2025-02-27 17:57:23 +0000 UTCEnsign is the lowest commissioned officer rank, so it is actually a higher rank than Chief Petty Officer.
Aramis Calcutt
2025-02-27 17:53:49 +0000 UTCThis was fun. I love seeing where Ensign Ro is in her arc on the show. How she's gone from sulky teen to someone who opens up to people with just a little nudge, and that her peers know her well enough to nudge her to open up, like Geordi in that last scene. I also love the father figure thing with Picard. I have to say, I'm glad the writers were comfortable keeping the Romulans as irredeemable mustache-twirling-tie-the-enterprise-to-the-train-tracks villains. And yeah, that dephased Romulan was such a perfect "Oh shit" our characters are in danger moment. And yeah, if the conversation was: Picard: "Beverly, Geordi's dead." Crusher: "Ugh, the paperwork." Well, that's some interesting character development for the crew....
Chris
2025-02-27 17:51:53 +0000 UTCI wonder how much satisfaction Ro got firing that disrupter through Riker's head. On another note, when they set that disrupter on overload. They ducked for cover behind a bench. Would that really have protected them? Just another useless plot hole to bring up. BTW happy birthday, Alex.
Keith S
2025-02-27 17:51:18 +0000 UTCSee my other comment. It's just headcanon, but I think it's easily explained by saying the gravity plating in the decks can't be passed through.
Steve Boshear
2025-02-27 17:48:51 +0000 UTCNone of matters here on Patreon, but for YouTube only leaving the video would matter
Josh (Target Audience)
2025-02-27 17:45:13 +0000 UTCI was imagining while watching the funeral scene that there's at least one person on the ship who actually hated Ro's guts and was unironically celebrating, only to get really bummed out when she rephased lol
Forbidden Donut
2025-02-27 17:44:36 +0000 UTCMy headcanon on this one has always been that the gravity plating in the floors was the one thing that "phased out" matter still can't pass through. Because gravity involves bending space itself... etc, etc technobabble.
Steve Boshear
2025-02-27 17:44:08 +0000 UTCInteresting. Didn’t catch that.
Shanelle
2025-02-27 17:42:50 +0000 UTC“If they can make a hot cup of tea materialize from thin air … then obviously the carpets can repel ghosts.” 😂 Laugh out loud comment
Shanelle
2025-02-27 17:39:49 +0000 UTC@Target Audience Don't you mean: **big voice guy voice** "SUNDAY! SUNDAY! SUNDAY!"
Jovet
2025-02-27 17:39:26 +0000 UTCThere's just no reasonable and consistent answer to what they pass through and what they don't. We just have to choose consciously to ignore the inconsistency. Still a very entertaining episode.
Jovet
2025-02-27 17:38:47 +0000 UTCThis is an excellent character episode, and they both carried it really well!
Jovet
2025-02-27 17:37:27 +0000 UTCAnd Chief Brossmer is wearing a single hollow pip, which is what they settled on for NCOs for a while.
Jovet
2025-02-27 17:36:31 +0000 UTCGlad you loved this fun episode. I just hope the next one knocked your socks off... One non-episode related question. There have been a several posts about what it does to your numbers if someone stops watching and resumes later. Does that include if someone pauses? Many times I have paused right after the episode to get a few things done before "unpausing" and finishing up with the discussion. Does that make a difference since I'm still technically in it?
KatWithAttitude
2025-02-27 17:36:29 +0000 UTCFor reference, the "Pool table" is the colloquial term for that engineering console in the middle of the room Data was using. It's actually a prop they built for Star Trek IV in the Starfleet Command centre where Sarek was chillin'
EnigmaticPenguin
2025-02-27 17:28:20 +0000 UTCHappy birthday Alex! What a banger of an episode, one of my favourites, just ignore the whole floor thing…
Worf and Riker Ride Again
2025-02-27 17:27:39 +0000 UTCThe phased Romulan is the dead captain that Mirok referenced. He’s sitting in the captain’s chair when we first see him.
Ron Hubbard Jr
2025-02-27 17:26:19 +0000 UTCA great deal of suspension of basic physics and science is required for this episode. When you do that, it’s a very enjoyable and fun episode.
Ron Hubbard Jr
2025-02-27 17:23:59 +0000 UTCSo what do you think Riker was going to say about Ro at her funeral?
Jovet
2025-02-27 17:21:47 +0000 UTCHappy Birthday, Alex. Welcome to the big Three-Oh!
Jovet
2025-02-27 17:15:12 +0000 UTCThe look of shock on Riker's face always makes me laugh.
Jovet
2025-02-27 17:11:50 +0000 UTC34:35 Yeah, he'd die from cold and no air.
Jovet
2025-02-27 17:04:33 +0000 UTC21:00 The smile on Josh's face. haha 😀
Jovet
2025-02-27 16:50:59 +0000 UTC19:50 Well why not? Geordi sat on the Transporter platform. And now Ro can touch things she wants to? hah
Jovet
2025-02-27 16:50:16 +0000 UTCYeah when it came out people argued for years on usenet forums why they didn't fall through floors and someone came up with head canon about the gravity plates. But they probably shouldn't be able to breath or even have light interact with their eyes 🤣
Fishing Trip
2025-02-27 16:49:29 +0000 UTCYeah, I know. And I can choose to overlook it 'for the plot'. But it still bothers me as a huge inconsistency, as the only real flaw with this episode.
Jovet
2025-02-27 16:47:46 +0000 UTCThis isn't The Expanse. If they can make a hot cup of tea materialize from thin air, and instantly accelerate to beyond the speed of light without splattering everyone all over the bulkheads, then obviously the carpets can repel ghosts.
Aaron Wells
2025-02-27 16:46:23 +0000 UTCPlot convenience ;)
captveg
2025-02-27 16:43:59 +0000 UTCRemind me again why they don't fall through the floor...??
Jovet
2025-02-27 16:42:29 +0000 UTCChief is short for Chief Petty Officer, an enlisted rank. A Chief has never been to the Academy, and is a lower rank than any commissioned officer, including the lowest of which, an ensign. The enlisted command structure isn't fleshed out well in Trek, but you'll notice the Chief has a single pip, but not a solid one, as an ensign has.
Aaron Wells
2025-02-27 16:39:09 +0000 UTC7:05 "I remember that sound! That's a BAD SOUND!"
Jovet
2025-02-27 16:37:08 +0000 UTCAnd a terrible hairstyle.
Jovet
2025-02-27 16:35:15 +0000 UTCHappy birthday to Alex and thanks for our gift of more TNG! This is a easy A episode, maybe even S since it’s one of my personal favorites. Even the cheesy laugh ending gets a pass because the rest of the episode is cool. Watching them launch a Romulan into space never gets old.
Brian Moore
2025-02-27 16:35:08 +0000 UTC3:48 She can't go back to being an Ensign because she's not a commissioned officer. The address "Chief" probably means she's a Chief Petty Officer, like O'Brien, which is a non-commissioned (non-officer) rank.
Jovet
2025-02-27 16:34:34 +0000 UTCWhat a nice birthday treat, Forbes & Burton.
Paul Hess
2025-02-27 16:33:31 +0000 UTCMy wife and I were dating when this episode was first aired. I told her that I wanted my funeral someday to be like Geordi’s & Ro’s - no funeral just everyone getting together and having a good time. I haven’t changed my mind since then. Still going with this.
Ron Hubbard Jr
2025-02-27 16:31:13 +0000 UTCA for me. Finally a Geordi episode where he isn’t being a creep around a woman!
Terminaldogma01
2025-02-27 16:27:59 +0000 UTCI always figured they don't "fall" through the floor, because you don't fall in space. And presumably the ship's artificial gravity doesn't affect them. But that only opens up a bunch of new questions. Like, how do they move if they can't make contact to the floor? So yeah... better don't ask... 😆
Kat
2025-02-27 16:25:18 +0000 UTCSunday
Josh (Target Audience)
2025-02-27 16:20:02 +0000 UTCHow are they breathing? “I just said don’t a-“
Josh (Target Audience)
2025-02-27 16:18:22 +0000 UTCThey don't fall through the floor because of the sub space wake given off by the gravity plating. Don't ask me how they are breathing.
Fishing Trip
2025-02-27 16:16:36 +0000 UTCAaaaaa!
Ramen Nudels
2025-02-27 16:12:48 +0000 UTCReally great episode! But I really hope you guys can upload the next one! That would mean a lot to me! 😃🖖
Anthony Goodwin
2025-02-27 16:12:43 +0000 UTCSolid A+ from me. Not revolutionary, but just a really solid scifi episode with an unconventional pairing and some good character moments
TivAcrid
2025-02-27 16:11:35 +0000 UTC
