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UNCUT - The Expanse Season 1 Episodes 1-3

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UNCUT - The Expanse Season 1 Episodes 1-3

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I'm here to watch people watch The Expanse and chew Bubble Gum, and I'm all outta Gum

Jason Dokos

I mean yeah. Eventually his shirt comes off. 😂

Aaron Wells

LMAO I KNOW!

Daxeah

By like 10,000%

Daxeah

There are several videos in which they explain that they aren’t science fiction fans at all and so their appreciation for Star Trek is based on things other than being in the sci fi genre.

Aramis Calcutt

it is creole! creole is just a language that came about from mixing multiple other languages, so in the belt they speak (belter) creole, b/c they came largely from a few distinct linguistic backgrounds, but then were largely alone with each other for a few generations

TivAcrid

it's better than BSG

Todd Pritchett

Ah, the Expanse. Honestly one of my all-time favorite TV series'. But man are the first few episodes so slow. Luckily it picks up soon and starts moving along a bit faster and evolves into awesomeness.

Boggle

I've watched two of the three so far and this seems like a pretty good show. I think I understand what's going on, and I like the realism they've tried to put into space travel and gravity. When this show came out it was touted as the next BSG, but I'll need to see a little more before I go that far.

Ken R

especially at the begining... if we're watching on streaming like Prime, it doesn't include the "Previously on" recap... so timecode is off.

Greg Latta

Must... comment... something relevant... cannot talk about... adorable cat...

Evan Guthrie

In terms of energy density per mass of fuel, the rockets of The Expanse are plausible. We would need to figure out cold fusion to get to that level, which is exactly what the ships on the show use for their engines, but if we assume we have cold fusion then the engines are plausible. The next step up would be anti-matter. If we could efficiently produce and store large amounts of anti-matter and build rockets based on matter/anti-matter annihilation, you get into the territory where interstellar travel becomes feasible with reasonably fast travel times, at least from the passengers' point of view (relativity shenanigans come into play at this point). This is the premise behind the space travel in the Avatar movies.

Jeff Cornell

I don't think it's anything to do with mission control. It's just the demographics of the people who initially colonized Mars. They were disproportionately Texans and Australians, so those accents in particular are common on Mars.

Jeff Cornell

My gf felt the same way the guys do about him at the beginning. Eventually he became her favorite character. So long as they give him a chance, I think the same may happen to the guys. (So long as they continue past season 1...)

John

Thank you for this, excellent explanation. I hope the guys read it. One of the fun things about the expanse is the care they take in mostly paying attention to physics. A certain scene involving a flying drill comes to mind. In Star Trek, the gravity is always Earth standard, the air is always breathable, the aliens always have a suitable forehead for prosthesis. The expanse is kind of a different beast and I love it.

Aaron Wells

There's an in-universe explanation for the Texas drawl stuff on the part of Martians... It's an affectation that goes back to their colonization period with a lot of texas-based mission control or whatever. It's talked about a bit in the books. So there's actually a cowboy bar culture on Mars, paradoxically. And some martians like to affect that accent.

Aaron Wells

Of course, this being precisely how everything works in the expanse. The only problem is that a drive that is so efficient and so powerful at the same time doesn't seem to be scientifically feasible, not just with current tech, but in terms of actual energy to mass conversion.

Aaron Wells

Snap judgments about Amos won't be rewarded LOL. He's probably the most interesting character on the show. But, like all good things, that development takes time. It's not there immediately.

Aaron Wells

Amos is the way he is for a reason. You think you know his character but believe me, you don’t. It makes for a great reaction though so keep it up! You’ve already said some things that, if you do go on to watch the whole series, are going to haunt you (in a good way)! I really can’t wait to see your reaction to episode 4.

Chris Christison

Typically, increased thrust means less efficiency. High-efficiency engines like NERVA and Ion engines exist, but the higher the fuel efficiency, the lower the thrust, to the point where an ion engine pushes about as hard as a piece of paper in 1g. High thrust engines like the ones that would give you the ability to turn on a dime in interplanetary space, are like kerosene-powered and waste gobs of fuel. Could you have the best of both worlds? That's the fiction part of it.

Angelaina Marie

Please more sync moments

Sam Langanke

Give Amos time. He's a fan favourite for a reason, we just don't really have any context for him yet. You never know, he might be that guy. Wait and see. Speaking of accents, Naomi is from the belt and sounds British, and Alex is from Mars and sounds Texan. I dig it. As for Holden, I don't dislike the character, but he's a bit of a boy scout. Holden is sort of like what you get if you play Mass Effect and make 85-90% paragon decisions. Just a bit generic.

Timothy Nikiforovs

I think it's more about fuel efficiency, if I understood correctly. We have engines that could provide as much thrust, or near to if scaled up, but would run out of fuel hundreds of times faster.

Paul

One of the fun concepts that comes up in both sci-fi and real world discussions is a planet-to-planet ship that accelerates to the midpoint of the journey, then flips around and decelerates the rest of the way. Build it such that the floors are in the direction the ship is traveling from at the start, and you can have at least some G for most of the journey. Paul there probably knows more than I do about real world practicalities of that, but that idea was one of the first things I ran into that helped me understand mass and inertia in space.

SageGreenGoat

Every cat Josh, every damn cat does their utmost to show the whole internet their anus🤣. One line from the pilot that always stuck with me was Miller asking the guy how old his kid is, and when the guy asks if he has any kids, he says "yeah, no. I missed that boat". That combined with how jaded he is going around taking bribes, roughing up his own people, letting his health go to shit, it all kinda sums up the existence of a lot of belters. Just existing, with no future or legacy to leave behind, no hope for anything, just doing whatever selfish thing gets them one step ahead for a moment. At least he found it in himself to do the right thing at the end.

Timothy Nikiforovs

Glad you guys are getting into this. This series has two of my top ten favorite characters in Sci Fi..Amos, and a female character that is totally badass who you will not be introduced to until season 2, so please stick with it past season one! BELTALOWDA!!!

Monty Crawford

Personally, I got into it right away, but I hear that a lot from reddit and other places. Most people don't get hooked until ep3.

Paul

Lol. My captions say they are speaking Creole. 😆 🤣 😂

T’Pynyn of Vulcan

I used to play a lot of KSP. I mean I still do, but I used to also.

Angelaina Marie

Seems about right. Of course, Amazon also started putting unskipable ads in prime video subscriptions which force me to snipe the pause button on time. We are in the future. The Ferengi business models are taking hold.

Ch'Ih-Yu

Good to see by the third one you are getting more into it

AzoriusMage

What you call bleak, I call realistic. The seriousness of the expanse is what makes it believable. What makes the stakes believable.

Aaron Wells

A lot of shows need time to spin up. Trek being the textbook example.

Aaron Wells

Amos is a fascinating character...you really don't get his vibe figured out for several seasons...indicating subtle character growth instead of blatant hand holding.

Aaron Wells

I loved it from the first episode. There's very little filler in the expanse.

Aaron Wells

Absolutely about the progressive quality increase in subsequent seasons. And yes, there is very little goofy comic relief in the expanse. No goofy Ferengi antics, no awkward dad joke network TV humor. Its just a serious hard science fiction drama...and an extremely well made one. There just arent enough shows like this.

Aaron Wells

Its a top 5 scifi show of all time. Even if these guys flake out after a single season, stick with it. Subsequent seasons just get better.

Aaron Wells

Well said.

Aaron Wells

What follows is a lot of science talk, feel free to skip unless you'd like to understand it more, since the show does ground itself (mostly) on sound science or "hard" science. I love that, but of course we aren't all such nerds :) In terms of "weight" in space, where gravity is very limited and weak, objects that have mass can still, well, be "massive", and changing their inertia will require time and energy or a force applied over time in order to achieve it, even without much or any gravity acting upon that mass. In space, without any other force acting upon a moving mass, it will not decelerate. So once you reach a speed, you can coast at that speed and no force is required until / if you want to decelerate. When you commented that they made the scene appear like a big ship had heft, they really did intend that and it is scientifically accurate to a T. In short, a big ship with a lot of mass cannot change its velocity (up or down) or vector (direction) instantaneously, this requires time and a lot of force to overcome intertia which is caused by the Higgs boson field. And in applying this energy via the ship's thrusters, what feels like gravity will affect objects and people on the ship, this is known as "G-forces", equivalency to the force of Gravity on Earth, which is 1 G or 9.8 ms/s. Acceleration of any kind is indistinguishable from gravity. Which is why you can simulate gravity on a ship or space station either with propulsion via thrusters, or via spin. When they mention "high G burn" it's turning on those thrusters to max and pumping out acceleration as fast as they can without literally crushing their own bodies or tearing the ship apart. And the white drug they pump into themselves is meant to help their bodies deal with high Gs that, in our current level of technology, we can't do for long (fighter jet pilots routinely experience 10 Gs or more but not for lengthy periods of time).

Paul

Something to bear in mind, this is formatted mostly on the books. The first season is basically the events of the first book. And so on, for a while.

Aaron Wells

I'm pumped for you, getting to watch this for the first time. It's among my very favorite shows. Subsequent seasons just get better.

Aaron Wells

No. This show DOES NOT have a high budget. Its actually completely amazing the effects they pulled off on a syfy channel budget. The bird looks fine for a TV SHOW. This has similar production quality to a movie, but its not. Its a TV show.

Aaron Wells

Also, AMOS BURTON. Just sayin'. :)

Aaron Wells

This is a top 5 science fiction drama of all time. No exaggeration. It's excellent, as is the source material. Be warned guys, this is not funny. This is very sincere story telling...no self referential humor, very little comic relief. It's not dicking around, and there is a real learning curve in the beginning, the find out about the various factions and the state of the in show universe.

Aaron Wells

This is one of the best Science Fiction shows ever made Their attention to the facts of science, gravity and speed are way more accurately represented and handled as a almost character of the show, whereas in Star Trek it’s all just a bunch of magical going beyond the speed of light with one throwaway line in one episode somewhere that says if we didn’t have inertial dampeners, we would be puddles of blood on the back wall Whatever you do, don’t give up on the show those first few episodes are foundational and it gets so much better as the show goes on. You don’t even have to wait all the way for season two to see the improvement.

Thicketdweller

Interesting info.

T’Pynyn of Vulcan

Thanks for expanding to The Expanse. I've never seen it. I'll be experiencing it for the first time with you guys. I watched the first episode so far. 2 more segments to go.

T’Pynyn of Vulcan

The show's producers hired Nick Farmer, real life linguist to create the Belter language (Lang belta). It has its own grammar and vocabulary. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belter_Creole You can find a quick spoiler free reference to some common words and basic Grammer here : https://www.worldanvil.com/i/1914451 (Part 1) https://www.worldanvil.com/i/1914450 (Part 2)

c3

Should be roughly a minute difference for episode 2. Episode 3 we also have a sync moment right as the actual episode starts

Josh (Target Audience)

I think Prime Video cut the flashbacks at the beginning of the episodes out. My timecode obviously doesn't sync up.

Ch'Ih-Yu

Fun fact… The Expanse is based on table top role playing game sessions that TNG’s Melinda Snodgrass (writer of Measure of a Man) and George RR Martin (of Game of Thrones) played in. Two of the other guys in their gaming group (think Dungeons and Dragons but in an outer space setting) wrote down their play sessions in a series of sci-fi books published under the pen name James S. A. Corey, which in turn, is the basis for this TV show. Melinda & George came up with a lot of the content.

Matt Everkoul

Well well well

Adam from Germany

Hell has frozen over!

Josh (Target Audience)

I love this show because almost every character is not just what they appear. With Chrisjen, we see how she will do anything both great and terrible for what she feels is right. She ruins her friends life (and he is a friend), but the possibility of averting a war between planets. With the lives of 40 billion at stake. One life even that of a friends is not important in the slightest.

Mark Wood

Holden was always my least favorite character too.

Aramis Calcutt

Outer Planets Alliance

Aramis Calcutt

To confirm a few things you were unsure of / potentially relevant real world knowledge: Floating in water relieves most of the strain that Earth's gravity puts on the human body, so it's considered the only humane way to keep a Belter prisoner on Earth. As opposed to hanging him on hooks and letting the gravity torture him. Ceres is a dwarf planet inside the asteroid belt, between Mars and Jupiter. Because there's some ambiguity whether Ceres should be thought of as a tiny planet that happens to be in the asteroid belt, or thought of as just being by far the biggest asteroid, the category of "dwarf planet" was created to describe objects of that type. That's also why Pluto stopped being considered a proper planet, and is now a "dwarf planet". It was discovered that there is essentially a second asteroid belt that Pluto is within. The place the Martians accused the Cantebury of making a stop, "Phoebe", is a real place: a tiny moon around Saturn. Since the rings of Saturn are where the Cantebury was harvesting ice, the Martians consider it plausible that they could have secretly made a quick detour to Phoebe. Lastly, the CGI bird looks 100% fine except for the way that it moves, and the weird way that it moves is intentional. I will die on this hill.

Jeff Cornell

The drug the martian took enhances his vision. Thus the focus zoom in on eyes, and them showing the camera zoom in and focus on facial ticks. All done to show how the body gives off subtile signs when someone is lying.

Mark Wood

The show does not have a high budget. Let's get that out of the way to start with. The range per episode was estimated to be between 2 to 5 million. 2 million is what the typical CW show got which is low for an hour long (designed for the US market). The 5 million is a decent budget for a typical broadcast show hour long of the time. Broadcast shows that were either heavy in fx or scope typically ranged between 5 - 8 million an episode. To put that into perspective since this is from 2015. TNG at the stage you are watched was running 1.8 to 2 million an episode back in 1991 (it started non pilot at 1.2 million in 1987). Enterprise which ended more than 10 years before this started averaged for the first three years between 3.5 and 5 million an episode. Discovery which aired 2 years later then this regular episodes were 8-8.5 million per episode with both shows shot in Canada so you did get more bang for your buck. Now this being the first episode is going to be more fx heavy, and have upfront costs associated with it like every new show. But it was not an expensive show for its time.

Mark Wood

Ha ha that is so on brand with your comments on other shows :)

AzoriusMage

Why the need for hooks? Is it not just ten chapters of a story? If so does every chapter have to be some big event? I don’t think so otherwise it is being forced.

AzoriusMage

You guys seemed locked in in the third episode, good to see! Ceres is a a dwarf planet in the asteroid belt and they are both between Mars and Jupiter.

Florian

Look at sober Alex explaining to JOSH what’s happening in the story, instead of the other way around! You go, brother! 😁

Aramis Calcutt

Have you guys read much Sci-Fi?

AzoriusMage

Alex said the radar trilling noise sounds familiar, it's a tribble

Doug

The astrophysics in The Expanse are appaluded by science nerds as THE most accurate portrayal of how things actually work in space. The only thing as far as I can tell that is a stretch is the 'super efficient' engine which we have no concept of how that could work in real life, actual rocket engines are hard AF to get working at all, and can't possibly put out the kind of constant performance that is depicted here. But the rest of it, the effects of reaction and the way weapons are done, spot-on. Enjoy the most realistic space show you will ever likely see.

Angelaina Marie

I'm excited for this, I got into this show because I used to play a lot of KSP and I love the hard-scifi aspect of it. I never ended up finishing the show so now I have a good reason to

Doug

The belt is between the orbit of Mars and Jupiter. Ceres is an asteroid right at the exterior of the belt.

Michel Provost

Noted.

Josh (Target Audience)

Ahoy. Just an FYI for when you're editing future episodes... the DVD appears to have a recap, but the Amazon Prime Video episodes don't (at least not for these first few episodes), so it makes it pretty difficult to sync the start. If you could stick one of the short un-muted and un-blurred segments right at the start of the episode (after the recap) that would be mucho apreciado 👌

Scott Robert Edington

alright, episode 1 down. Really impressed with the production, this looks great!

James Bottas

I’m glad you’re watching this, it may or may not be your cup of tea but it’s extremely well made. Lots of realistic science put in (without the technobabble) and a deep lore that looks at how an imperfect human spacefaring society might look in the future. For me it’s easily up there with TNG as my favourite SciFi but it does lack the lighthearted episodes you get in Star Trek, which can get a bit grim at times. Even if you don’t continue to react after season 1, I’d recommend watching on your own as each season for me got better and better.

Worf and Riker Ride Again

Love this show. If you can make it through the first couple episodes, I predict you may like it too.

Jason Lallathin

the character relationships are the heart of the show. i THINK you'll dig it.

penoyer79

The ship has gravity when it's under thrust. When it's accelerating, you feel the rate of acceleration as gravity. The show uses drugs ("the juice") so that characters can handle levels of acceleration beyond what a normal human can handle, but past 10 Gs, you risk popping a blood vessel in your brain and just dying. Anyway, when the ship is accelerating, it feels like gravity. What they're doing about half an hour into the episode is a "flip and burn". The ship is going at a certain velocity, and they turn it, then hit the engines to slow down, and they're slowing down as quick as possible, which is a high g maneuver, hence their need for "the juice." Speaking about Amos: "I want to go up to him and say, 'You're not that guy.'" Interesting take. He's a complex character. I'm glad you're still interested in the show.

John

I struggled with this show through the 1st and almost all of the 2nd season. By the end of the 2nd season on, I was fully engaged and enjoyed it quite a bit. Gave me a little of Firefly vibes with the main characters, but much more serious and dark. Satisfying most of the time, so if you manage to get past those first couple of seasons, you should be good to go.

Collin Freeman

I’d echo those other comments - i tried the first few episodes a couple of times and found it hard to get into so gave up…eventually after reading nothing but praise about the subsequent seasons I preserved and got halfway through season 1 - after which I was completely hooked. Stick with it, I’m confident you’ll enjoy it.

Jordan Cooper

So the Amazon Prime subtitles are much better. They actually write out the Belter Creole so it becomes somewhat understandable over time. OPA stands for Outer Planets Alliance. Im pretty sure its mentioned in the first episode. Excited to keep watching this with you guys!

Julie Carter

When watching Battlestar Galactica, you kinda have to live for those few uplifting, hopeful moments that show up. At least in the Expanse you don't have so many episodes that are bleak and horrible. I also think the Expanse's future is much more realistic than Star Trek's. (And BSG's for that matter.)

John

Not as dark is kinda debatable….like I understand what your saying on a basic survival of the species level…but I wouldn’t call the future we see in the Expanse very bright and hopeful or something to look forward to (albeit perhaps realistic given how humans behave)

Derek Orr

Its a great show and I loved it. But given how they gave up on Battlestar just as it was getting good…I’ll be REALLY surprised if they get into Expanse.

Derek Orr

The hat is more like a trilby, which is basically a fedora with a narrow brim

Aramis Calcutt

Oh no, SciFi!! We will never get season 2. LOL

Sam Langanke

Yeah, I have to get done with work before I can sit down and watch this. Only an hour or so to go, thankfully.

John

Cannot wait for this 🙌 It took me a couple of episodes to get into it... But it is one is the best sci-fi shows ever made!

Alan F

Really enjoyed this show. Hope you both do as well. Also, that chick's voice wasn't vocal fry...it was vocal roast. She sounds like she has smoked about 6 packs a day for the last 30 years.

Kosh Naranek

Bridge Crew has good taste. I hope y'all give this a real chance. It's a very different future from what Star Trek envisions, but it's not as dark as Battlestar Galactica, and it got the budget it needed for good special effects, and talented, if not particularly well-known (for the most part) actors.

John

Damn I'm so happy to see this and yet also pissed...because my productivity is about to take a massive shit 😂

Darin Starr


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