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[DK] The Yuri Anime with Toxic BL Tropes | A Citrus Retrospective

[DK] The Yuri Anime with Toxic BL Tropes | A Citrus Retrospective

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I just want to say that you absolutely made my day when you said the grief you had with so much yuri is that it's too close to the Cute Girls Doing Cute Things category and I'm like THIS IS WHAT I KEEP SAYING oops hit enter too soon BUT LIKE FOR REAL, its not that i have anything against wholesome romances as a whole and I even like some of them (like Shirayuki x anyone, but especially Obi), but I'd be lying if I said that I wasn't a little bit more drawn to relationships where there's some fucked up shit going on. LET GIRLS COMMIT CRIMES. I didn't even like Citrus that much when I read it once upon a time because I was just so annoyed by the cast, but I would rather watch/read it ANY day than most of the yuri that makes it to the anime sphere because oh my god. at least these girls are committing crimes. I support womens' wrongs etc etc. if there was a yuri version of Super Lovers i would eat that shit the hell up in a heartbeat

Gayjax

I don't think I've seen that one lol. I think it's wonderful and In my opinion there is not another anime out there like it and for its time, the thought of having gender roles being messed around with, because it was the '90s lol, like that was a big deal. Yes it has tropes but I honestly don't know what creator you're talking about, and also I think that it's like a classic in the way that evangelion is and I feel like utena gets a lot of extra hate because of the fact that it's two women. Like I feel like if it was a man instead of a woman, AKA utena was a man, that more people would know about it number one and number two realize that a lot of anime today takes from utena. And then also utena takes from sailor Moon which you'll see in the opening if you watch it, and then I don't know In the realm of things that are controversial, I don't understand how utena is different from any normal anime. Now it is goofy as hell at the end but! It's you know... My partner, who is Gen X, said that that's some zoomer concern lmao. He's not gonna assemble though (funky frog bait did a video on that lol). He said that it captures the dichotomy of feminism and being oppressed and also fighting for liberation. It's very metaphorical and surreal. I mean if you watch it up to the end where there's this surprise they'll go oh that's what that one chick was talking about, then you'll understand that you have to take that all metaphorically and I literally can't say anything because it's so... It's so random. My partner also said that if you watch it, there's so much content to comment on and there's like a bazillion things to talk about and there is. I've seen clips and I've seen the clips of the ending and omg wtf lmao. There's also a movie and a series. Okay I'm done with my persuasive essay lmao Also yeah I know that it's not performative and it's really appreciated because I don't know of any commentators or YouTubers that put up those resources to help people in the capacity that you do and, in the realm of content creators and YouTubers, that is one thing that like you take number one spot on and I sincerely respect about you. It shows that you actually care and you're not just talking out of your ass and I feel like more people should do that, not talk out of their ass lmao, but rather put the links up Oh my God but I'm a swiftie okay and it is so annoying seeing all of these like NFL ads with Taylor in it because like she doesn't want to be in there she's just there to support her boyfriend and like dude it's so annoying because the dude bros get all like omg a woman is in sports videos and then you know the woman in question, Taylor Swift, has to deal with the harassment and stupidity that comes with that but... I am a Chiefs fan because... I hail from that state but the opposite side and I have no idea that that area even had a freaking football team. LMAO Peace homie looking forward to watching your stuff I finally got like a better job so I actually have time to sit down and enjoy myself lol So anyway take care!

PyroAries

forreal, it's a somewhat fascinating "culture shock" even when its coming FROM guys in the west but i think even that is highlighting WHY exactly some male yuri fans are seeking it out since the objectifying lesbian approach is something associated with toxic masculinity and men confident in their masculinity (to the detriment of the world around them LMAO) who view the world as their oyster and are "playing the game the right way" which SOME of these male yuri fans very much are not and they want to escape from the overall pressures and environments that those behaviors would occur in. Its just so FASCINATING like i totally went into this video intending to shit on himedanshi but i came out of it like "damn im sorry yall feel this way" XD. I can also agree that my general disinterest in yuri stems largely from popular character design choices, Im overall a very aesthetic influenced consumer so while im open to mostly everything at this point anime-wise (besides maybe horror, just dont care for it), it could check all the boxes of tropes i like for all i know but i dont CARE if it doesnt suit my aesthetic tastes LMAO. From what has been highlighted to me it seems that theres a lot of yuri that isnt roly poly girls but the anime adaptations seem to favor stories with those art styles as of late (and thats before taking into account how ROUND most anime has become in general artistically). ALSO THANK YOU *BLUSHES*

KrisPNatz

I have not seen Utena, I imagine i will get to it eventually but after a certain content creator’s controversial video on the topic around a year ago with discourse still discoursing around it I think ill take my time getting around to it and if i feel a need to make a video of course i will XD THANK YOU FOR THE KIND WORDS! yeah Ive always been a fairly outspoken person so me bringing up causes in the pinned comment or in videos was always kind of an eventuality for me as a creator, I always try to approach these things in an effective way cause looking performative even if your intentions are “pure” just isnt effective for advocation but I do try my best to bring light to things happening in the world in the pinned comment at least because especially with how much dumbass fandom fuckery I make videos about I feel a need to highlight THERES A LOT MORE IMPORTANT SHIT TO BE WORRYING ABOUT LMFAOOOO. NOT TRAVIS KELCE to each their own… LMAOLMAOLMAO (no judge— thats a lie, kinda small judgement XDDD)

KrisPNatz

Heck. Yes. LFFGGGG Okay but i stan citrus *because* of is toxic "bl traits". It was about time!!!! The manga is so pretty LMAO, that's literally objective faxxx THANK YOU for your analysis. Yuri is so typically boring. Like sasaki no miyano, sooooo boring. Omg rule 63 OMG that's the best joke and statement every Okay but what do you feel of utena idk I've seen you talk about it. I'll have to lurk moar Thanks for explaining moé cause I've never understood WTF it meant. I agree with you with the cuteness thing 100000% Haikyu is great for the fanfiction LMAO yes!!!!! SAME!!!!! yes oh my God we're literally on the same wavelength LMAO Hell yes haruko and androgynous girls are where it SHOULD be at. I LOVE SAKURA!!!!!! LMAO yes Okay so I just wanted to like actually like chime in because I've been like watching and commenting as I watch, And I use dictation because my hands don't work right so anyway moving on lol You say that like a lot of people have too much privilege and that is something that like totally I agree with because if people truly and this is my personal opinion and you do a great job of advocating for everything it's absolutely astounding and I commend you significantly for your contributions to humanity and you're consistent advocation for good causes, people who get into the nuances of that without advocation for their causes in my personal opinion they have way too much privilege number one and number two think of the good that they could do if they expended the energy of this infighting discourse instead of just accepting that a lot of people have preferences and nuances within their own lives and then accepting that as well, imagine that energy that they put out with nitpicking gender and sexuality and instead advocated for for good causes. Anyway that's my soapbox for that and I just wanted to say that you do such an amazing job every time you make these videos and it is just you deserve like some type of like streaming award or I don't know I'm not like a streamer or whatever so I don't know but you highlight issues and your commentary is always on point in my personal opinion, like there's only like three people that I watch that I'm always in like, basically lockstep with You are one of them and hilariously enough so is Hasan piker, you more so then him, lmao So yeah that was just my little like contribution to that because like I just wanted to commend you for your video essays I find them absolutely important and your voice is such a very very very 2000s perspective but I think it's a very balanced perspective and I also have that perspective because people do want to like persecute and it's like you can do that up to a point because you got to let people live. Like you advocate for reading bara and that's wonderful but for me personally, I just don't like bara and I just don't like bigger dudes like ironically I think Hasan who I just mentioned is like one of the only dudes with muscles that I'm like yeah that guy's hot. Taylor Swift's boyfriend right now is kind of hot lol But like and now I'm just kind of state you know for my own opinion like I always find that Yuri is so effing boring Like it's just like this like smiles and blushes like oh my god I can go like daydream that or whatever Like I would prefer to see more animated Yuri like citrus like animation wise because I absolutely love the animation of citrus. I also like the classmate series which I'm not even going to try to dictate in Japanese lol And I think that they made another series but it's GL and it's by the same author I'm pretty sure I just haven't picked it up. But I enjoy the art style and I just am so bored with just the boring nice blushy smiles like oh my god it's so annoying It's so boring I would rather like reread gravitation for like the 20th time because that is an insane shounen ai. Lmaooo idgaf if it's bait, if it's pretty and better then sasaki no miyano, count me in lmao Yes shounen ai repeat is perfect surreal like a fever dream that's actually Kakegurui is gorgeous idgaf what others says Oh my God i haven't seen the euphonium anime but now I'm going to. LMAO the edging comment 📠📠📠 LMAO ahahaha OMG the loli thing You're so right! Image boards, if you go look at "recently updated" on zerochan you'll see it. Yeah parent your kids don't let them have unfettered access to the Internet on their phone it's wild lol Oh! There's the difference i think kids are hilarious but you have to have your own, they're like pets until they get older lmao Mannish pixie dream girl LMAO yes!!!! Tysm as always Okay i liked scums wish but for reasons others didn't LMAO Peace!

PyroAries

I do find it interesting that the Yuri community would complain about "Yuri bait" shows. Coming from the western culture and having guys always trying to pressure two straight females to make out for them to watch, the bait seems like an odd thing for the male viewers to get upset about. I'm pansexual and do enjoy BL and I'm not against watching or reading any Yuri content but I do wonder if your point of how the characters look have had something to do with it not seeming to peak my interest.. maybe I should look into Yuri more for "research" purposes. Anyway your video was entertaining to watch as always! Also not sure if it's the time of day you were filming but whenever the lighting is like that your eyes look so pretty! And all those name were cracking me up but I think I liked Jen De Envy the best. Thanks for the video!

Captn Kimbe


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