UNCUT REACTION - Battlestar Galactica The Miniseries (2003)
Added 2024-04-19 12:00:41 +0000 UTCWatching off a DVD, which is presented all as one part. YouTube edit will be coming hopefully by the end of the month.
Technical issue caused reaction to be audio only for a few minutes from 1:23:45 - 1:27:55 of our video.
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I remember being about 15 when this came out. I'd never seen more than the odd episode of the original, and it always seemed a little campy to me, having grown up on 90s Trek(not that there was never camp in 90s Trek). Point being, when I saw the trailers and it seemed like a very modern, high octane reboot, I figured a 2 night event was something I could spare the time to check out. It was just so different at the time and really grabbed mine and my brother's attention. We ended up watching into the 3rd season, but I kind of lost track of it at that point. This show can be pretty dark, especially when the characters you're supposed to root for are anything but paragons of virtue at times. Some are, and would fit right into Trek, but others are basically anti heroes. Having grown up on trek's optimism, the darkness of BSG turned me off as a teenager. Some time around 2011 I checked out the show again, and as a young adult I enjoyed it a LOT more. The miniseries is a long watch for a single sitting, but I think it does a great job setting up the premise of the series. There wasn't a series planned at first as I recall, but the reception was so good that it got greenlit pretty fast.
Timothy Nikiforovs
2024-05-15 07:27:05 +0000 UTCNo, because nobody would ever argue that Battlestar Galactica was an underrated show.
Steven Johnson
2024-05-03 03:15:03 +0000 UTC@Derek Orr, nonsense. If you can't have a sense of humor, you are truly beaten. Navy SEALs train in sardonic humor as a motivator. The Spartan's basically invented the 80s one liner as a means of demoralizing their enemies. In the darkest of times, humor is the one thing that can bring you out of it.
Steven Johnson
2024-05-03 03:12:55 +0000 UTCSomething I'd like to hit on from the space battle complaint. yes it's not all flashy and high tech(i think i heard once that the budget was so low that the writers inserted a joke in the show about all the paper and pictures have their corners cut off to symbolize them cutting corners to make the show), however, the Galactica has very REAL world practical elements of military procedure. The Galactica serves actually has 3 separate military vessels we use in the USA. a battlship with heavy ordinance, a submarine(no windows cause of space, and moves like a ship underwater...CIC commands the ship to move in 3d space), and also a Command Carrier ship that holds fighter jets(vipers). there are NO lasers and shields in this show..very well grounded to simple technology to give it realism. Another element is the rank and command structure aboard the ship is extremely accurate(me speaking from experience serving myself). the chain of command and all the ranks are completey spot on. also, i hope the audio improves, it was kinda hard for me to hear you guys talking....i had my volume on MAX
Nate Terry
2024-04-29 03:34:36 +0000 UTCAlso, stick with this because of Edward James Olmos. He is a titan in this show. He'll change you.
Angelaina Marie
2024-04-28 18:11:59 +0000 UTCStick through it till the end, this show will blow your mind. Truly a much deeper take on the whole concept than the original.
Angelaina Marie
2024-04-28 18:06:28 +0000 UTCAs you edit see if you can see the firefly class ship they placed as an Easter egg.
Robert Elliott
2024-04-24 00:38:21 +0000 UTCI agree - some times it needed incredible actors to hold the show on their back while the producers screwed with the format but man, it had incredible actors and it worked. Also this was Ronald D Moore's passion project and his first TV writing job was TNG which is fun
Christopher Devlin
2024-04-23 23:57:05 +0000 UTCI approve of this name LOL
LMPGames
2024-04-23 06:27:31 +0000 UTCB5 is such a great Trek-ish sci-fi show, even with the often errrg cgi.
LMPGames
2024-04-23 06:26:49 +0000 UTCThis is an artefact of the miniseries. It is much more information dense than the series, that and when important moments came up they triggered memories/comments you guys had about the original. On the whole though, this is what reactions are about; your reaction. Not us watching the show. You're going to run into these kinds of issues no matter what is being reacted to, so, imo, it's best to acknowledge that happened and may happen again and then leave it at that.
LMPGames
2024-04-23 06:21:49 +0000 UTCThis is my favorite dark sci-fi series and it only gets better as it goes on. Some seasons have dips, but it's an interesting journey. Hope you decide to continue it eventually.
LMPGames
2024-04-23 06:17:46 +0000 UTCFantastic reaction, gentlemen! Quite enjoyed watching this. Thank you very much.
Jacob
2024-04-22 22:28:04 +0000 UTCAfter two seasons of TNG we have established Data as a new form of sentient life. Can't the same argument be made for Lore? To me that sums up the BSG reboot. I'd rather have humanoid Cylon villains over autonomous drones.
Matthew Jimenez
2024-04-22 01:27:48 +0000 UTCPrime has it. But you have to pay additional money.
Sam Langanke
2024-04-21 16:54:38 +0000 UTCI hope you don't let a few unhappy people change your mind about watching the series. We all come to a series with different perspectives. The thing I like about all of your reactions is that you often point out things, negative and positive that I've missed. Yes, a lot of us can be protective about our own favorites. BSG is one of mine. Let's all be polite about responding to these two guys who have given us a lot of fun watching their reactions.
John5193
2024-04-21 14:51:57 +0000 UTC"Yeah. Even though we really enjoyed it, this is the reason I’m not sure it’s the right move to react to the series. People seem very protective of it, and given our style I’m really not trying to deal with a bunch of people yelling at us every episode." I don't think that's as much of a problem as you think right now, that you happened to talk every time some important information came up and didn't talk during other moments was just a weird and kinda funny coincidence. It's not like there's a constant stream of new information all the time and you can never not pay attention. There was a bit more of that in the miniseries because they had to set everything up and introduce the characters and their relationships,
Phillip Grischa
2024-04-21 13:41:45 +0000 UTCYeah. I dunno, I also had one of THE most stressful days at work. And oddly watching a tension-filled show about the apocalypse did NOT seem to take the edge off, hah. Trek is definitely a good fit for you guys. Its balance of serious and irreverence seems perfectly matched to you two and you mostly play off it well. NuBSG is an entirely different beast. It's more about the "Holy Shit" and mochistic people watching you be affected by how grim the show gets. I know I don't watch BSG the same way I watch Trek. I wouldn't say, "Never react to it" but perhaps not yet? It's such a character driven show, you'd probably like it. But then, you guys were meh on Wrath of Khan, so who the hell knows. You survived that reaction though. Ya just a pair of damned wildcards. I assume you wouldn't be starting the series anytime soon anyways, so, maybe in your own time, rewatch the miniseries without the "I have to React for the youtubez" pressure, see how it sits with you too. Maybe this is a show you meed to pop the sub-titles on, I dunno. You guys know I'm fine to wait for 3 more Trek series before you hope back into it. But word of advise, DON'T look up stuff about this show, not even character information. You WILL get spoiled. And if you think the CGI is dated in this, just wait till you get to watch DS9, VOY and ENT in all their non-remastered glory.
Nolan
2024-04-21 09:20:23 +0000 UTCCorrection, Richard Gibbs scored the Miniseries, with Bear as his protege.
Nolan
2024-04-21 08:33:03 +0000 UTCYeah. Even though we really enjoyed it, this is the reason I’m not sure it’s the right move to react to the series. People seem very protective of it, and given our style I’m really not trying to deal with a bunch of people yelling at us every episode.
Josh (Target Audience)
2024-04-21 08:25:07 +0000 UTC"Not everyone is necessarily out to get you." No, but you can't blame them for thinking the dude who tells them they only like TNG seasons 1 and 2 is because they don't know good tv might be. Keep in mind when they record themselves watching tv they have to talk and make comments so that there's a reason for us to watch the video, if they just sit silently and take in the episode it would be a very boring reaction but of course if they make comments and talk to each other they are bound to miss some things.
Phillip Grischa
2024-04-21 07:59:33 +0000 UTCAmazing, you managed to talk over almost every logistical explanation the characters gave for questions you'd ask 5 minutes later. I know it's the danger of reactions, and normally I don't mind that much, but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't getting a little annoyed, lol. Maybe I just like the show too much. But honestly, it's just impressive how consistently you guys managed to do so in this one. Like EVERY time they brought up Baltar creating a navigation program that Six took advantage of to facilitate the attack, you guys thought you were in a safe spot to talk just before the characters spoke. Be a pretty harsh drinking game boys. 🙃
Nolan
2024-04-21 07:15:00 +0000 UTCI never felt that. I didn't even entirely understand all the hate for the ending either. I'm curious if time might have changed feelings on that for people.
Ca$hWednesday
2024-04-21 05:51:51 +0000 UTCAs someone who never saw the original BSG, I went into this reboot without any baggage. I remember there was a bunch of people angry about the Starbuck gender swap at the time. I couldn't understand the backlash because Kate Sackhoff KILLED it in role. In fact, I thought the entire cast was excellent, especially Edward James Olmos as Adama. I wouldn't expect you to watch more of the BSG series since you're on the Star Trek journey, but definitely check it out in your free time if nothing else.
Ca$hWednesday
2024-04-21 05:29:49 +0000 UTCThat evolution of peoples perspectives though is kinda the point….they are just exactly like us…whether the enemy is terrorists in real life or synthetic life forms that we made…we/the colonials slowly grow to appreciate they are not just chrome toasters with circuits etc…they are just like us
Derek Orr
2024-04-21 05:26:44 +0000 UTCHumour doesn’t really mix with end of civilization, dreary does
Derek Orr
2024-04-21 05:18:08 +0000 UTCDoes anyone know where to watch this on streaming?
T’Pynyn of Vulcan
2024-04-21 02:29:50 +0000 UTCAm I wrong in guessing that for bsg viewers to find you you might need more than one video for YT to recommend you? I have no idea how that stuff gets decided what shows up at the top of a search.
Ken R
2024-04-21 02:27:37 +0000 UTCAn amazing revamp that slowly over the course of five years lost its way and became self-important, dreary, and humorless. This is one of those times when I think it should've just stopped at this mini-series instead of the slow burn into depressive sci-fi.
Michael Nemo
2024-04-21 02:08:50 +0000 UTCAwesome! Love it. Love you two! So cool to see you doing this and hope eventually you'll do a watch of the show, it's worth it! I remember seeing this when released and it was amazing time! Please I hope you two watch. But I do get the time thing. I would rather see you two obviously do Star Trek all lol, that is the GOAT lol, like cmon what's better than Trek lol and it feels so great to watch with you and experience Trek the absolute best thing ever no joke and I think you guys have understood that now with Trek. But maybe one day BSG eventually. You're the only Patreon I do and it's so worth it!!! I think I will change to highest 1 year sub $10 from my new sub of the $5 year lol. You guys are so great and it's so fulfilling to watch you two Trek all, like you two are our friends. Thanks so much guys! Much love!!!
Phluke Skywalker
2024-04-20 23:58:02 +0000 UTCWatched this one along with you guys and wow I forgot how good it was! One thing to know about this show is that much of the feel of it was influenced by 9/11. Those of us who there around remember the outrageous paranoia that gripped our nation, where people were being harassed, assaulted, or arrested because they “looked like terrorists”. While there is definitely an obvious budgetary reason to make Cyclons human, it can also lead to some great storytelling (as was hinted by the reveal of Boomer being a Cylon). Hope you watch the rest of the series! It would be fun to revisit it with your reactions. So say we all!
Column Meanie
2024-04-20 22:22:33 +0000 UTCNo worries! Should be out by the end of the month
Josh (Target Audience)
2024-04-20 18:53:20 +0000 UTCPrime demands additional money for a show that's 20 years old. Sorry, have to wait for the YT version.
Sam Langanke
2024-04-20 18:01:51 +0000 UTCHe was one of my favorites, too. I have not seen any of this series since the 3rd season originally aired, so it was nice to revisit some old friends, so to speak.
Collin Freeman
2024-04-20 17:13:52 +0000 UTCMe, too. He had that American accent nailed down.
Collin Freeman
2024-04-20 17:10:58 +0000 UTCFair. I don't think I was incredibly pretentious and rude, but it probably came across that way. That's why I tried to take the temperature back with my remark. I get it, someone who disagrees probably comes around as someone being condescending, but I tried not to be. Not everyone is necessarily out to get you. I wrote a lot because I care. If I didn't, I could have done something else. Write a lot of bullshit or actually acurate stuff about me if you want. But not every reply is malicious.
Ullrich Pfeiffer
2024-04-20 17:06:06 +0000 UTCI think that is one of my favourite watches with you guys.
AzoriusMage
2024-04-20 17:04:19 +0000 UTC"Uhm... because we're the customers and pay their salaries? Seriously? That's like asking why there is the expectation that staff of a restaurant treats me with respect and kindness." The staff of a restaurant will definitely not treat you with respect and kindness if you waltz in an verbally abuse them which is exactly what happened to Katee Sackhoff, the restaurant staff will refuse to serve you and kick you out. Being a paying customer does not give anyone the right to be verbally abusive. "You're seriously asking this after seeing what Disney's treating fans of franchises like crap has done to their company and products financially?" When has Disney ever treated fans like crap? Some fans not liking what they get is not being treated like crap, neither is making bad movies. "In entertainment there is no job without people who watch your product. You don't have a job without the fans." The same is true for the aforementioned restaurants, all kinds of stores, the entire service industry etc., that still doesn't give the customers the right to be assholes. "When it comes down to it, watching movies is a luxury and if you had to cut down costs in a society to focus on what's actually important, actors would be sent to regular jobs quicker than they can say "Action"." How high is the horse you're sitting on, looking down on and disrespecting an entire profession that has existed for thousands of years? What you say is not even true, entertainment isn't a luxury, it's a necessity. When money is tight and times are bad it's even more important than at other times, it's a much needed distraction. Even in war times, during the Great Depression etc. people still watched movies and went to theaters, listened to music etc. even when arguably those were times to save money and not waste it on luxury movies.
Phillip Grischa
2024-04-20 16:57:22 +0000 UTCI always find it ironic how people will say incredibly pretentious and rude things (which we have no problem with) but when we reply with a sarcastic remark to give it back a little it’s always “Woah chill dude. Learn to take criticism” as if we are supposed to say nothing. I’m glad you enjoy some of our content and have supported us directly by paying us money, but making a comment like “you wouldn’t know good TV right in front of your face” and then being surprised by an extremely mild sarcastic response is very odd.
Josh (Target Audience)
2024-04-20 15:42:17 +0000 UTCChill dude. I really loved your reactions so far. And let's be real, I might return for your Star Trek reactions. I really enjoy those. But this was disappointing from my perspective. And if you don't want strangers to weigh in, don't ask strangers to pay for it. Anyway, have a great day ;)
Ullrich Pfeiffer
2024-04-20 15:15:52 +0000 UTCI’d say for a 3-hour pilot we were pretty satisfied with it. Totally open to continuing if it performs well
Josh (Target Audience)
2024-04-20 15:08:33 +0000 UTCSounds like you are way too intelligent for us. Bummer. Hope you find a channel that can match your high IQ. Thanks for watching this though 🫡
Josh (Target Audience)
2024-04-20 15:05:02 +0000 UTCI'm sorry, but this reaction was disappointing. They spent like an hour of talking about how the Galactica is an outdated battleship, as if their command center wasn't a hint by working like a real ship, and all the converting it into a museum wasn't a thing. There was an entire plot arch about how they found Cmdr. Adama's old Fighter. And just for the slow ones, the old ones are Viper Mk2s, while the modern ones where the Viper Mk7s. For their DECOMMISSIONING celebration. They spell this out throughout the movie. Old stuff survives and new stuff gets shut off by the Cylons. Why does Starbuck win a fight? She is flying a museum piece. Because the Co hates computers. They had a whole story arch about how new interconnected defenses get taken out, but the Galactica, thanks to being the last of her old class with entirely anachronistic tech survives. Like during the entire reaction, there was silly stuff like "Why are they using paper and whiteboards?" and I'm silently screaming "because they are fighting computers!" They are ANACHRONISTIC! because the other side is a bunch of robots controlled by a machine intelligence. They lost 30 battlestars in the first half and your reaction is "well, they used all of their ressources on Galactica!?" Yeah, they don't. The famous dude who controlled all their computers let the Cylons into their defense network. I'm going to be honest, I had high hopes for this thanks to your Star Trek reactions, but you liking the first two seasons of TNG wasn't thanks to you appreciating good TV, it was thanks to you not realizing good or bad TV even if it's right in front of your faces. And like half of the series is the conflict between Cmdr. Adama and the president. It's a geniune interesting conflict. A commander who was on the verge of retirement vs a education minister who was never supposed to be the leader. This shit isn't solved by "well she knows how to be unlikable", Wtf is this? It's an incredibly interesting Sci-Fi conflict. What's important? The 'theoretical' line of successsion or the line of command among soldiers? The entire point is a soldier knowing he is in command (!) but still relingquishing it because someone else has more legitimacy. Battlestar Galactica starts with a more interesting moral dillema than Star Trek ever had to deal with. And I'm sorry you don't see it that way. Have fun with the good half of Star Trek, this part of Sci Fi was really disapointing. Enough to stop me from being interested in this.
Ullrich Pfeiffer
2024-04-20 14:54:13 +0000 UTCThe mixture of tech levels I feel was a great aesthetic choice to give that other-worldly, 'not Earth' but human vibe.
Jon Reid
2024-04-20 14:20:34 +0000 UTCBTW Jamie Bamber (Apollo) is English. I was blown away when I first found this out. His accent is bang on.
Jon1701
2024-04-20 12:40:20 +0000 UTCGreat reactions boys. Truly one of the finest sci fi shows of all time. The original show pales in comparison to the reboot and if you do watch the full show you will quickly forget about it. I do wish you had watched the entire 90s Trek shows first but I predict high viewing figures for this video.
Jon1701
2024-04-20 12:33:14 +0000 UTC"Why is there the expectations that actors should show gratitude to fans or treat them with respect when the fans act like entitled douchebags?" Uhm... because we're the customers and pay their salaries? Seriously? That's like asking why there is the expectation that staff of a restaurant treats me with respect and kindness. You're seriously asking this after seeing what Disney's treating fans of franchises like crap has done to their company and products financially? That should maybe give you a hint. I've worked in producing entertainment and I would never talk to a customer like that. In entertainment there is no job without people who watch your product. You don't have a job without the fans. In fact sometimes I think actors and Hollywood people forget how much of a privilege it is to be able to work in entertainment. It's one of the most useless jobs on the planet with no real impact on anything except people having fun. When it comes down to it, watching movies is a luxury and if you had to cut down costs in a society to focus on what's actually important, actors would be sent to regular jobs quicker than they can say "Action". The pure fact that they get to have those, for stars like Sackoff massively overpaid, jobs is something they should be eternally grateful for, because they literally live off of money people have to spare. Nobody NEEDS actors, nor do most of them have any useful skillsets. To bring back the jovially made point of Galaxy Quest: All actors are actually good at is lying convincingly.
Andreas Schmitt
2024-04-20 11:26:59 +0000 UTCEven if it's just Patreon only, I highly recommend that you jump into the series at some point. One of my top 10 TV series of all time.
Mel Primus
2024-04-20 06:21:43 +0000 UTCThe thing that's always bothered me about this is it's like they (the writers) weren't sure what the human cylons were. Like they mentioned them having silicon pathways and 6's back glow which makes you think oh so they are extremely like humans but physically made of a different material or a blending of flesh and tech......but then there's stuff like it being very difficult to tell them apart from humans medically that makes you think are they just legit human bodies with cylons brains downloaded inside. It's like it is whatever the writers feel like at any poy, very confusing. I still really like a lot about this show...and dislike a lot too, cough cough second half of the whole series
E Parhas
2024-04-20 06:20:55 +0000 UTCI can feel your pain. When I saw this the first time it dragged. Rewatching it I enjoy this way more. I had only seen little bits of the original when this aired so I got some Easter eggs from the original. The dead baby (which I guessed was the shot from the thumbnail was from) has been interpreted both as evil and as a mercy killing. I always took it as Ron and company starting out pushing boundaries they couldn’t in Trek. I have always thought this show is what kept Trek off the air for years because the critical acclaim this got is bigger than Star Trek ever had while airing, even if most early articles focused on the backlash against female Starbuck. Season 1 is suitable for watching in a similar model to the original when you have nothing else on the calendar. I do think this will do well for you guys. I have been wondering what you would think since you watched the first episode of the original.
Jonathan
2024-04-20 05:23:58 +0000 UTCWhen I first heard about this series, it was during Sci-Fi's heyday when I was watching Stargate SG-1 and Farscape (and possibly Haven), so I immediately decided to give this a try. I was not disappointed by the mini-series and was so thrilled to see it being made into a series. And it really did not disappoint me in the least. It was great. I understand if you guys can't get to it. Star Trek is awesome in its own right, and it is the reason you started your channel. But the series is good, so keep it on your back burner.
wildhunt1973
2024-04-20 04:39:54 +0000 UTCOk - so now I've watched your entire reaction. I enjoyed watching the mini series over again with you for about the 5th time over the last 20 years. I did think you'd be more enthused about it, but I understand that it's natural you would be comparing it to the original. I did watch a little of the original when I was young, but found it a bit hokey. I probably never gave it a fair chance. I'm hoping that you give this series a shot and start watching Season 1 at some point. Thanks, guys.
John5193
2024-04-20 03:48:26 +0000 UTC"I don't mind the casting of Starbuck. I will say, Katee Sackoff did not endear herself to oldschool fans at the time by basically telling them to fuck off if they had a problem with it... " Why should she endear herself to "fans" who teared her down and sent her hate before the miniseries even aired? Why is there the expectations that actors should show gratitude to fans or treat them with respect when the fans act like entitled douchebags? Especially in this case, the the fans of the original BSG who did nothing but campaign against the new show weren't going to like it anyway. Sometimes entitled fans who think they get to say anything they want because of their "fan" status should get told to shut up and go away, there's nothing to gain from pretending they or their opinion matter. And four your question about a gender-bent Spock. Nothing about the character requires Spock to be male so I literally wouldn't care. As long as the portrayal is true to the character it's fine. Just like with Starbuck. Starbuck on the original show was a cigar chomping, gambling viper pilot who liked to drink, have fun and have sex. Starbuck on the new show is a cigar chomping, gambling viper pilot who likes to drink, have fun and have sex. So the criticism boils down to "Starbuck has cooties!" because the character didn't change at all.
Phillip Grischa
2024-04-20 03:01:25 +0000 UTC"toxic masculinity" really? People being upset, men and women, that a character was changed in a fundamental way is an understandable reaction. It's an entirely predictable response, too. Which is why people like Ronald D. Moore did *not* aggressively respond to such a change. Telling those people to "get the fuck over it" basically her exact words during a video blog, is not good pool when you're trying to promote a new series. Like I said before, changing the character itself is not an issue - treating fans like they're the badguys because they're upset about such a change is not a wise move. Yes, she was being an asshole to fans of long standing. This notion that if you get upset you're suddenly not a true fan, is also completely silly.
Steven Johnson
2024-04-20 02:45:50 +0000 UTCAll I can say is if you guys never watch the rest of this show either as a reaction or on your own, you will deprive yourself of one of the greatest shows ever made
Retro Tom
2024-04-20 02:41:51 +0000 UTC"I have yet to see a single example of Katie Sackhoff being an asshole 🤷♂️" Yup, she's pretty awesome. She received lots of hate from original show fans before the miniseries even aired, she had every right to tell those fans to fuck off. That's not he being an asshole, that's them being assholes and getting the appropriate answer.
Phillip Grischa
2024-04-20 02:32:30 +0000 UTCLet's make this happen.
DustmanNorochj
2024-04-20 01:35:50 +0000 UTCI missed this mini-series when it aired and I also missed the first couple episodes of the series before I discovered it and started watching. I enjoyed it for the first 3 seasons, then fell away and never went back. I was glad to be able to finally watch this pilot with you guys. One thing that I found fascinating about the story in this BSG is the humans are essentially polytheists: they believe in the lords of kobol and essentially multiple gods. The Cylons are monotheists: they believe in 1 god (God). Nice twist.
Collin Freeman
2024-04-20 01:26:39 +0000 UTCThe baby scene is intense and show the show is not messing about. Loved your faces at the end.
AzoriusMage
2024-04-20 01:24:25 +0000 UTCI did, too, at times.
Collin Freeman
2024-04-20 01:22:46 +0000 UTCDefinitely. It's it's own thing. This ain't your daddy's Battlestar Galactica.
Collin Freeman
2024-04-20 01:20:31 +0000 UTCBuffy is the greatest show of the last 20 years or so. Would be 2nd had Firefly gotten more seasons.
Philbot
2024-04-20 01:09:03 +0000 UTCI think that the point of human Cylons is actors emoting. As opposed to a half assed 3po, before this series premiered I pictured a reboot series being like Star Wars vs the Matrix! Which would have been cool, but hard to do on a television budget and again machines emoting? They wanted Edward James Olmos to play Kruge in Star Trek 3. They loved him, but they thought he was too short to be threatening.
Philbot
2024-04-20 01:04:00 +0000 UTCMy favorite in this mini series was The Chief. He was a supporting character but really they did a great job in bringing him to life. Gaius is another one you kind of get his personality, same with Tighe. Ok, all of them except Boxey.
Ken R
2024-04-20 00:03:52 +0000 UTCThe series is really excellent. I hope you do continue it. It is so much better than the original show. In my case, I really didn't like the original show too much, so when I heard they were rebooting it, I wasn't really interested in it for that reason. It quickly became probably my favorite sci-fi series, and still is.
Michael Ducharme
2024-04-20 00:02:34 +0000 UTCI watched this entire show back in 2011. its a long watch. worth it. like you said its more based in todays reality vs the ideal future in Star Trek... much more gritty and dark.
Lt Dan I scream
2024-04-20 00:00:27 +0000 UTCI got a big laugh right at the beginning before you guys realized that it was a reboot, and you suggested that Number Six was Baltar's daughter. That would make certain events/scenes later in the episode a bit weird.
Michael Ducharme
2024-04-19 23:49:28 +0000 UTCI have yet to see a single example of Katie Sackhoff being an asshole 🤷♂️
Derek Orr
2024-04-19 22:45:53 +0000 UTCHonestly the fan base of the original show is pretty small in comparison. Starbuck was hardly an iconic character🤷♂️ and honestly any attitude from them at the time was because of the toxic masculinity BS that people threw at her and the writers.
Derek Orr
2024-04-19 22:44:26 +0000 UTCDid you finish watching all of BSG ? Or just the mini series?
Derek Orr
2024-04-19 22:40:22 +0000 UTCThere's an amusing irony to you being excited to see Katee Sackhoff show up here, since this was the role that made her famous in the first place.
Jeff Cornell
2024-04-19 22:23:56 +0000 UTCThis very adult series rewards in each episode. Thumbs up for you to continue.
Mark Chrisco
2024-04-19 22:05:52 +0000 UTCDo you mean Battlestar Galactica?
Tom Occhipinti
2024-04-19 21:29:29 +0000 UTCSorry, guys, the President has authority above the military. It's sorta designed according to what we recognize in America. The American president is Commander-in-Chief. So is the BSG president. The actress is great, and the character has a great arc throughout the series. : )
Tom Occhipinti
2024-04-19 21:29:03 +0000 UTCI found this series presented the humans as always treating each other like such crap that I started pulling for the cylons to win it.
Alan Thompson
2024-04-19 20:35:34 +0000 UTCSo the usual actors being assholes basically. That's why I've never been a person to mix actor and character. I can honestly say that I can't stand most of the cast of Star Trek of all the shows with few exceptions, yet adore the characters. Actors will be actors, and most of them are nuts.
Andreas Schmitt
2024-04-19 20:27:03 +0000 UTCAs someone who served during that time (thankfully never on deployment but... ) yeah I remember that bullcrap time... I wouldn't have needed that in my entertainment either. First time seeing this it was... fine I guess. I like Adama, but like these guys I'm not a huge fan of the human Cylon angle, and from what I remember , that's pretty much what turned me off from watching it back when it aired now that I think about it. So far, in terms of dark and gritty Sci Fi... I'd say Expanse has this beat by a long shot. And I'd probably rank some other shows there as well. I'm also not a big fan of crap like the baby killing. it's incredibly obvious that that had no point and was just done to shock the audience. That's actually my least favorite aspect of American TV... everytime they can get something through the censors because the rules have changed, or its streaming now or whatever, they just HAVE to push the boundaries just for the heck of it. There's never a really good point in doing it, it's just on "look what we can do, this isn't your grandmother's TV anymore" .. and it's pretty juvenile to me. And as for something that shocking.. I think the M*A*S*H finale did that much better with much more of a point to it long before this.
Andreas Schmitt
2024-04-19 20:19:22 +0000 UTCI really hope you guys continue with the series. I think you’ll be blown away. Also I really want to see your reaction to the first episode of the series after the pilot. It’s a masterpiece!
Jonathan Llyr
2024-04-19 19:38:55 +0000 UTCdamn forgot also..... RIP Jolly we hardly knew ye... You lasted a few minutes with little or no real air time. The re-boot matches the OG. On the bright side, Jolly won't be in the opening credits just to be missing in the episode. OR WILL HE/SHE
Prof Moff
2024-04-19 19:02:51 +0000 UTCI don't see that anyone say this so I am sure I'm the 4th to mention and I missed it..... You said very Fire Fly like.... Well in the Sec of Ed (later Prez) learning about her cancer scene, before the doc comes into the room you see a little beauty of a ship landing.
Prof Moff
2024-04-19 18:51:12 +0000 UTCThere being Cylon models that appear human was actually part of the original show's sequel series 'Galactica 1980' - Episodes 7 & 8: 'The Night the Cylons Landed, Parts 1 & 2'.
David Brown
2024-04-19 17:21:03 +0000 UTCBabylon 5 is criminally underrated. Plus it's fun to see the network of actors move to and from Star Trek in Babylon 5's run.
fatproduce
2024-04-19 17:04:59 +0000 UTCFinally ! This series is AMAZING. In my opinion, so much more depth than the original TV series. This series is a classic.. I hope you watch every season.
John5193
2024-04-19 16:58:31 +0000 UTCNo, I think it is a fair comparison. All that other stuff is incidental. I'm talking about a specific iconic character that you bring back and gender bend. The issue wasn't the bend itself.(The trope is incredibly tired now, though.) It was the unfortunate middle finger attitude of Sackhoff and some of the production people. It's not a good attitude, specially when you're looking at it from a creative perspective and dealing with an established fan base. People forget that Richard Hatch himself was trying to get the series relaunched in the 90s. Put up his own money to film a promotional concept for classic series sequel. That fanbase was still very much there and very dedicated. It comes with the territory that people are going to be sensitive about it. Leaving it at "This is a new show with a new concept. We respect and love the old show, but we're trying something new." is the smarter option. If they did the same thing with Spock, and by the way there was a pitch from B5's Joe Stracyzski for a Trek reboot around 2006 where he suggested that "one of the big characters could be gender bent" and he suggested Scotty for that honor, so it isn't even like this was out of the realm of possibility... You don't want the prospective actor/actress in question throwing birds at TOS fans because they're upset. You want to win them over by being really good. It's not about the change itself. It's about the way the audience at the time was treated by the creatives. Not a good look. Regardless of how good or bad the show did, or how different it was. "It's a different beast" is lightyears from "If you have a problem with Starbuck being a girl you can go fuck yourself."
Steven Johnson
2024-04-19 16:36:42 +0000 UTCVery happy to see BSG pop onto the Patreon feed today - a treat to revisit that show. Looking forward to more BSG content if and when it happens. Happy Weekend Fellas!
OmniRaider
2024-04-19 16:26:18 +0000 UTCThe Spock thing is not a fair comparison....there is so much that is different in this show...it's not a simple reboot or an alternate timeline like Kelvin Star Trek...it's a completely different world/universe and story....it shares only the most basic superficial things in common, like character names (and even then its now call signs) and ship names and a post apocalypse setting. Cylons where not at all tied to humans in the OG, they where an alien lizard species who made robots. There are no aliens in this show
Derek Orr
2024-04-19 16:22:52 +0000 UTC(Babylon 5 did it first!)
Steven Johnson
2024-04-19 16:21:12 +0000 UTCOne of the reasons I wasn't a fan of it at the time. I didn't need a reminder that we could get blowed up at any moment. I lived it. You know Stan's mom from South Park? That was my mom. My windows were taped with plastic for two years after 9/11. The news was on all the time. Tuning into TV and having that be what your entertainment was, it was just... No. It turned me off so bad. Years and years later, revisiting the show. It's enjoyable, but I still have issues with it. People talk it up as the best science fiction show ever, and I don't see that, personally. B5 will always rank higher for me.
Steven Johnson
2024-04-19 16:20:34 +0000 UTCHERE HERE! BABYLON 5! BABYLON 5! BABYLON 5! ...Nobody cares. *single tear*
Steven Johnson
2024-04-19 16:18:28 +0000 UTC"dead baby" Yeah, the original air thing was "Night 1" and "Night 2." Night 1 ends with Adama thinking Lee just died, as I recall. (Great fucking acting by Olmos.) I don't mind the casting of Starbuck. I will say, Katee Sackoff did not endear herself to oldschool fans at the time by basically telling them to fuck off if they had a problem with it... Imagine, as a Star Trek fan, if they gender-bent Spock. For my fellow Patrons, you can get this on Amazon Prime for 12.99. WTF is that price? Star Trek fact: Edward James Olmos was almost Kruge in Star Trek 3. Nimoy felt his stature... He wasn't tall enough. Yet here... Holy shit his presence. ...So, when's the next episode coming out? :) Eh? Eh? C'mahn.
Steven Johnson
2024-04-19 16:04:34 +0000 UTC"the mystery beens solved now" ....OMG lol must bite tongue lol
Derek Orr
2024-04-19 16:02:04 +0000 UTCIt will be the whole cast in the series....with one minor exception:) Gotta admit I was sad you guys didn't seem to feel the intensity of the epic battle. And OMG don't worry about the score....the music in this show will blow your mind very soon
Derek Orr
2024-04-19 16:00:38 +0000 UTCYou're definitely going to have to let go of your memories and context of the original BSG....the things that are the same are largely incidental and not relevant to this show. It's a completely different thing. It's like comparing Crimson Tide to some goody cartoon about a submarine with aliens and silly stuff.
Derek Orr
2024-04-19 15:58:31 +0000 UTCWhat made the space battle scenes stand-out in the day was how they used real physics and inertia, with the small thrusters constantly making adjustments and the like. Also, the Bear McCreary score is minimalist as an answer to Star Trek/Wars bombastic orchestral score. I love this with all my heart, if only because while it's part of a known IP, it still has its own full identity and style. It's refreshing and gripping, with badass realistic characters. The series is even better. Thanks for watching this one!
StonyD
2024-04-19 15:39:14 +0000 UTC100%. This series is science fiction's answer to US post-9/11 paranoia.
StonyD
2024-04-19 15:35:46 +0000 UTCIt’s when we get the Boxey reveal
Josh (Target Audience)
2024-04-19 14:43:50 +0000 UTCThe Cylons didn't just become humanoid for the show to save money, it was mostly done to add paranoia to the show. The show was developed in the aftermath of 9/11, so the enemy being able to hide in plain sight like a terrorist planning an attack was fresh in the writers minds.
Phillip Grischa
2024-04-19 14:05:03 +0000 UTCNot gonna be able to watch this until the weekend, but I choose to believe this thumbnail is the moment with number 6 and the baby...
Brendon Waldron
2024-04-19 13:51:56 +0000 UTCah Gaius you loveable rogue
AzoriusMage
2024-04-19 13:26:51 +0000 UTCUgh, I don't want to see Buffy. But I DO want to see Babylon 5!!
Tom Occhipinti
2024-04-19 13:19:18 +0000 UTCSo say we all!
Gaius Frakking Baltar
2024-04-19 13:02:50 +0000 UTCSo say we all
AzoriusMage
2024-04-19 12:22:00 +0000 UTCTheir first time seeing that opening scene and what a scene that is
AzoriusMage
2024-04-19 12:21:02 +0000 UTCGot the day off...time to roll one for TA and settle in for the long haul...SO SAY WE ALL!!
StonyD
2024-04-19 12:18:19 +0000 UTCOne long movie? Oh boy 🤪
Silk
2024-04-19 12:10:30 +0000 UTCOMG so wanted you guys to see this
AzoriusMage
2024-04-19 12:07:07 +0000 UTC
