PATREON EXCLUSIVE - Whatever This Is - 2023 Recap FULL EPISODE
Added 2024-01-10 20:20:12 +0000 UTCWhatever This Is has returned in our brand new Patreon exclusive project!
Once every 4-6 weeks we will sit down and talk about anything we want from movies, TV, YouTube, or anything else! We also discuss topics and questions presented by you the Patrons!
We are using YouTube so that you can use the timecodes if you desire.
While this is something we wanted to do just for fun, how long and often we do it will depend on your engagement and interest, so feedback & recommendations are welcome!
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I would be curious to see what you both thought of Buck Rogers in the 25th Century the 1979 pilot and subsequent series starring Gil Gerard and Erin Gray.
Kicked In The Dicebags
2024-04-18 05:19:42 +0000 UTCGroupthink is real phenomenon. People have an ego need to believe they're appreciated and accepted. Some, more than others, will easily set aside their own values, beliefs, or agendas in order to reinforce an appearance of alliance with others. Next time you think about "being cool" just replace the word "cool" with "hip" and then ponder how ridiculous that is. And then you have discovered groupthink. Well, one form of it.
Jovet
2024-01-18 09:58:41 +0000 UTC"Groupthink" is a useless expression that does more harm than good. The internet today proves it's almost impossible to get a majority of people to agree on anything. And it's not anyone's place to police other people's thinking or judge their personal honesty. I've been a Star Trek fan since September 8, 1966 when my mom initiated Star Trek night as family TV night. I've followed all the series, and they've all had their misfires. But they've all had their good points too. I remember when the people crying out about how bad Nu-Trek was started up... they thought The Next Generation had it all wrong. That's because each reimplementation series was always some people's "New Trek" and some people always had problems with them. DS9 was too weird and different. Voyager was such a goofy experiment. Enterprise being chronologically before TOS was so problematic to the Star Trek canon. And so on. After time, both DS9 and Voyager are largely beloved. Do the newer series have new problems? Definitely. Discovery's whole plot line, character development and writing in general were disappointing, but I still watched because I was happy to see more Trek get made. And I will always be grateful to that series for the introduction of Short Treks and for taking a different approach to Harry Mudd (which I liked) and for the course corrections of season 3 and 4. And Discovery's success led to things I like more. I like Lower Decks almost as much as I liked Star Trek: The Animated Series. Strange New Worlds is fantastic. Picard was a wildly uneven ride, but I really didn't mind the fan service in the third season... the characters showed some nice growth and it was wonderful to revisit them with years of other experience behind then. Those are just my opinions. I don't expect anyone else to share them exactly. Opinions are subjective. We can express our own opinions and accept that other people may have different opinions. When you speak your own opinion, Jovet, I am glad to hear it. When you speak as if others liking the thing you don't like means there's something wrong with their opinion... that I have real problem with.
Blane Mather
2024-01-18 07:31:45 +0000 UTC1 - maybe eventually 2 - new background wasn’t ready, it now is though. 3 - We aren’t typically going to, but people keep recommending Chernobyl so maybe we will have to check it out
Josh (Target Audience)
2024-01-14 03:56:17 +0000 UTC1 - Being focused on ST now, will you start to dive into behind-the-scenes Star Trek stuff? 2 - Black background is kind of blah. Josh is a floating head, not that there is anything wrong with that. 3 - Would you do limited series?, I am thinking "Chernobyl", amazing series.
MrDeadstu
2024-01-14 03:36:18 +0000 UTCI am with you Jovet, Cage is crap, but I will say "Face/Off" was decent
MrDeadstu
2024-01-14 03:24:47 +0000 UTCYes. Alex seems to predict what will happen almost immediately, while Josh is more the big picture of the episode or season. It's eerie at times.
Numinous2019
2024-01-13 06:44:49 +0000 UTCCan definitely see how starting something else would be problematic with the sheer amount of star trek. Definitely happy to watch the rest with you guys! Also, i really enjoy the interaction you two have throughout the episodes, and i love how you guys are able to predict so much right before it’s about the happen. Season 1 of TNG is definitely memorable, it’s not as well written as the later seasons, but i always thought it served as a great bridge between TOS and the more in depth TNG that is coming. Highly recommend that you guys check out “William Shatner’s: Chaos on the Bridge” and “Trekkies” when you guys are finished with TNG. Some fascinating insights on both.
Connor Fallon
2024-01-11 20:34:18 +0000 UTCFirst channel I ever supported on Patreon! I'll happily watch the non-Trek stuff because what they're making is, end of the day, art. And you gotta water artists :) They've put me onto some stuff that wasn't already on my radar, so its working out well for me. Plus its been a pleasure watching and being apart of this little community popping up, another first for me. I've never interacted with a channel on the level of recognizing other users on a repeat basis before lol. I get a lot of good out of Target Audience
James Bottas
2024-01-11 20:08:29 +0000 UTCThe amount of things they talk about or predict offhandedly and then which actually happen seconds or episodes later still astounds me!
Jovet
2024-01-11 19:40:50 +0000 UTCI can definitely understand that. It's "funny" to me, watching a lot of shows risking losing their audiences to delays in production. One would think the almighty dollar would prevent that from being a risk at all.
Jovet
2024-01-11 19:39:55 +0000 UTCLOL! I won't "watch all their shit" but I'll watch a lot of it. I'm definitely here for the (classic) Trek. But—for the most part—I enjoy their reactions and thoughts on a lot of different things they watch. Because it's often different from me. Sometimes it's my first exposure to it (e.g. TAS).
Jovet
2024-01-11 19:37:55 +0000 UTC@Anthony Bernacchi Alrighty.
Jovet
2024-01-11 19:32:16 +0000 UTCYou should try watching "Adaptation," Jovet.
Anthony Bernacchi
2024-01-11 19:27:16 +0000 UTCIt needed to stop after Endgane. Loved it all before that but they needed to give it a 10 yr rest and then start again.
Ken R
2024-01-11 18:09:34 +0000 UTCI've really only really been looking forward to Blade, but it keeps getting stuck in development hell. Judging how Marvel Studios handled my beloved Moon Knight, I'm expecting mediocracy.
Ca$hWednesday
2024-01-11 17:45:28 +0000 UTCSame. I am willing to give Marvel stuff at least a peek, but if I am turned off in the first 10 minutes, I completely give up on it and move on.
Collin Freeman
2024-01-11 14:42:17 +0000 UTCI feel like IM1 through Endgame will always be something special that can never be taken away. I spent many opening nights with my friends in a movie theatre watching each of those films when they came out. I'm satisfied with how it ended and that can never be taken away. Now, I kind of have the same feeling towards marvel as Alex and Josh in the sense that nothing really excites me anymore in that franchise. I'll eventually watch them, but the "magic" is mostly gone for me.
Ca$hWednesday
2024-01-11 13:40:26 +0000 UTCWith Marvel there was this what we now know was an illogical devotion to a company we weren't shareholders in, "I see all Marvel stuff". But just like that the fever can break and suddenly nothing interests you. At this point I say "Oh, its Marvel? This can't be good." Just for the record I turned Echo off after 10 minutes, I just don't care anymore. It would be interesting to see you do an Echo reaction just to witness the indifference.
Ken R
2024-01-11 12:40:41 +0000 UTCYou guy aren't A Star Trek channel, you are THE Star Trek channel
Andreas Schmitt
2024-01-11 12:21:07 +0000 UTCI can reassure Alex that I subscribed and became a Patreon precisely because I enjoy both of your reactions and reflections on what you watch. You both have a smart and fun style of discussion and it is clear that you sincerely enjoy ST (instead of cynically just pretending you do). That genuineness, as well as the astuteness of your opinions and not taking ST or yourselves TOO seriously is what makes you stand out from so many other reaction channels.
Numinous2019
2024-01-11 07:23:21 +0000 UTCWell hell....I just looked it up and it's listed as 100 minute run time. Maybe you guys can bend the rules a little and put it on the next poll anyway. It's a good movie for it's time, and very very prophetic.
Monty Crawford
2024-01-11 06:40:28 +0000 UTCIt had some good moments.. I just lost interest over time and especially when I had to wait in between seasons.
TalynStarburst
2024-01-11 04:38:42 +0000 UTCAwww. I thought watching the whole thing was pretty important. It was predictable in someways, and not predictable in others.
Jovet
2024-01-11 04:34:29 +0000 UTCHey, somebody's got to do it. :-P
Regan
2024-01-11 04:30:02 +0000 UTCThe Good Place: Josh, you made a great call at ending it with season 1! I watched the rest and it never lived up to the first season imo. But what a great twist in that!
TalynStarburst
2024-01-11 03:09:02 +0000 UTCThe Bear. I don’t watch many new shows, but I am actually finishing up the 1st season of this right now. It’s a pretty intense show.. and you are right, Jeremy Allen White is fantastic! There is an episode that was done with one take.. I never seen anything like it, but it was mind blowing! 😳 Another new show I just watched and recommend is Sylvester Stalone’s Tulsa King.
TalynStarburst
2024-01-11 03:07:17 +0000 UTCThanks for answering the question on your daily jobs. I definitely get it! Work isn’t something that many of us wants to think about and you guys found such a great outlet from it with your channel! It’s a very relatable deal that most of us have in common.. May your channel one day grow enough to where you can do this full time instead 🙂
TalynStarburst
2024-01-11 02:51:23 +0000 UTCI hadn't heard of The Holdovers, but now I'm definitely going to watch it.
Regan
2024-01-11 01:57:20 +0000 UTC90 minutes? It’ll be on the next poll
Josh (Target Audience)
2024-01-11 00:59:57 +0000 UTCFor what it's worth, I'm here for the other stuff too, not 'just' Trek. I apologize that I don't always have something to say (or find a way to articulate it) in a comment to give back in that way... but I just want to say on this return of Whatever This Is, that I'm in that crew that'll watch all your shit, so just do your thing. We're parasocial bros now lol
James Bottas
2024-01-11 00:37:36 +0000 UTCMark Hamill was a highlight
Josh (Target Audience)
2024-01-10 23:48:49 +0000 UTC00:01:51 is when dollar bill confetti should have started falling from the ceiling, as you keep a straight face and keep talking....
StonyD
2024-01-10 23:22:22 +0000 UTCLOL!
Jovet
2024-01-10 22:59:29 +0000 UTCIt isn't that I expect Alex and Josh to like what I like, but when you have large franchises like Star Trek, Star Wars, Doctor Who, etc... the group think becomes strong. Some people say they like the newer stuff just to go along with it. Some people really enjoy the newer stuff because the properties they value in the franchise have not changed. My personal desire is to minimize the groupthink and make sure everyone's being as personally honest as they can.
Jovet
2024-01-10 22:42:05 +0000 UTC1:51:30 You should add Lexx to your list to watch. ;-) You know, you don't have to do full watches/reactions for everything you guys take in. You can do group episode or whole season reactions for some shows (e.g. Buffy).
Jovet
2024-01-10 22:34:18 +0000 UTC1:49:15 It's funny you should say that. I have NEVER watched Buffy the Vampire Slayer. I can't get past the title! My impression is it's a "lolcat oh the character's name is so ironic ha ha ha lolcat 90s" show and I have zero interest in it. I also expect more than my tolerable share of teen-drama-angst in it, which is anything above zero. I love a good story, I love well-reasoned sci-fi and technobabble, but I can't stand soap operas or drama for drama's sake. No Jerry Springer, no Maury, no white trash, no pro wrestling (sorry guys—at least you recognize how ridiculous it is on some level) and nauseatingly-cutesy satantic-inspired bullshit.
Jovet
2024-01-10 22:28:33 +0000 UTCCount the Tom Cruise movies you watched Most of them are probably 2 hours each and an episode of the good place is just slightly over 20 minutes. So 2 Cruise movies are worth 1 season of The Good Place. It's science.
Phillip Grischa
2024-01-10 22:21:32 +0000 UTC1:46:30 Actually, watching 20 episodes of Star Trek a week is really easy. TNG, at least, is a pretty binge-worthy show. But it's a LOT easier to just watch 20 episodes than it is to film yourself watching and reacting to 20 episodes in one week... can't blame you there. :-)
Jovet
2024-01-10 22:10:04 +0000 UTCYou may have answered this earlier or put it on a patreon movie list....but you mentioned never having even heard of The Omega Man, what about Colossus: The Forbin Project? That's a short 90 minute movie you would enjoy if you guys have not already viewed it.
Monty Crawford
2024-01-10 22:09:13 +0000 UTCI agree with you guys about Guardians of the Galaxy 3. It is my favorite of the 3 GotG films and such a great final chapter in their saga. Oddly enough, to me it had the most serious tone of all of the GotG films and less comedy, something which GotG is known for. One of my biggest complaints about the recent MCU films and TV shows is the amount of humor being injected into the scripts vs being more serious. How do you expect the audience to take anything about the crisis at hand (e.g., universe being destroyed) seriously if your main characters are cracking jokes every 4th line. As for Gen V, kudos to Alex for sticking through the whole season. I am a fan of The Boys, but after I watched the 1st episode of Gen V, I said "I'm out." Too much of the same as The Boys, not just corporations are bad, but taken to another level of pushing the shock-envelope for the audience and depravity. I don't need that much of "heroes are shit" in my life. One show is enough, thank you very much.
Collin Freeman
2024-01-10 22:06:19 +0000 UTC1:41:00 You know we're all picturing a sperm donation clinic... ROTFL!!
Jovet
2024-01-10 22:02:55 +0000 UTC1:22:44 I think you'll end up appreciating Quantum Leap more if you keep up with it. I'm not a huge fan myself, but from what I've seen of you guys, I believe you would appreciate the series as a whole.
Jovet
2024-01-10 21:45:59 +0000 UTCHonestly, everyone has an opinion about New Star Trek's quality but we really should realize by now we can't expect Josh and Alex to share ours when they get to it.
JD Nevesytrof
2024-01-10 21:45:30 +0000 UTCI'm sorry about any unfortunate aspect of your upbringing Josh, but you seem really well adjusted now and it's great you can find humor in it.
JD Nevesytrof
2024-01-10 21:43:47 +0000 UTCIs there a "wrong" Nicholas Cage film?
Ca$hWednesday
2024-01-10 21:29:53 +0000 UTCI like that show! I didn't think I would, but I do. I tried to get my best friend to watch it but he only watched the first episode and says he just can't stand Kristen Bell. After the several Tom Cruise films he made ME watch (I can't stand Tom Cruise)...
Jovet
2024-01-10 21:20:23 +0000 UTCIt doesn't make any difference. They're all the same!!
Jovet
2024-01-10 21:18:10 +0000 UTCFall of The House of Usher i quite enjoyed. I thought Mark Hammill was EXCELLENT in it (along with the rest of the cast). Nothing with ever live up to Midnight Mass in my opinion. PS: I really also enjoyed The Midnight Club too, which I'm sure I'm in the minority for.
Ca$hWednesday
2024-01-10 21:16:57 +0000 UTCI completely disagree that New Star Trek is bad. While I understand not liking everything there's so much variety that it feels weird to call it all bad. Personally I really like Discovery, the first season was kinda uneven and needed to find its footing but that's not unusual and by season 2 it was pretty good. Picard: Season 1 was goodish with some really bad elements, season 2 was atrocious, season 3 still not great but good enough and the fan service elevated it. Lower Decks: Hilarious, took a few episodes to really get going but it's a ton of fun and it tells some really good classic Star Trek stories despite being mostly humorous Strange New Worlds: For everyone who wants new Star Trek ro be like classic Star Trek this is it. Prodigy: Obviously made for a younger audience but also very good and I can't wait of season 2
Phillip Grischa
2024-01-10 21:16:44 +0000 UTCI am in the minority but I can't take anything animated seriously. I'm also allergic to soap operas that take themselves too seriously. I couldn't get through the first episode of Discovery, but what I've seen of Picard S3 was far too much soap opera for me. I actually found it really sad having those beloved actors trying to relive their glory years. Fan fic is almost never a good story. This is what has happened to all the "great" franchises.
Jovet
2024-01-10 21:15:25 +0000 UTCGlad you liked The Good Place, Josh. But the show actually did top the end of the first season. Here's my completely spoiler free mini review of the series: Season 1: Awesome with a great twist Season 2: Even better and went in a very unexpected direction Season 3: The first few episodes were okay but I didn't love them, but the show made it work and the second half of the season was as good as the first two. Season 4: Similar to season 3 a slightly slower start but it ended very strong and the series finale it one of my favorite episodes ever, I cried like a baby. It's up there with TNG's series finale in terms of quality and being memorable.
Phillip Grischa
2024-01-10 21:07:49 +0000 UTCSounds like you haven’t watched the right Nicolas Cage films
Josh (Target Audience)
2024-01-10 21:03:12 +0000 UTC38:40 What?? Nicolas Cage is one of the worst actors in Hollywood. He's "the same" in everything! He's probably the most wooden actor I've ever seen. He couldn't act his way out of a home invasion!!
Jovet
2024-01-10 21:01:02 +0000 UTCSo glad you guys brought up Godzilla Minus One. I used to watch Godzilla movies all the time as a kid and had most of them on VHS. Shin Godzilla and the Legendary series brought me back into the fold. Minus One is my most anticipated movie of the year, I'm just waiting for it to come to streaming somewhere.
Ca$hWednesday
2024-01-10 20:59:57 +0000 UTCBoth of those are made up of good and bad parts just like old Star Trek and Star Wars. Lots of good stuff in Discovery and Picard, Strange New Works is great, Lower Decks is really fun, Prodigy is something different for Star Trek that I was hesitant about at first but even something more geared towards had lots going for it. People far too up their own asses and view all the things they loved in their youth with such rose tinted glasses. I am definitely guilty of that on occasion but maybe we all just need to take a step back and not view things so black and white.
Cory Paton
2024-01-10 20:46:57 +0000 UTCPIC Season 3 shouldn't be lumped in there I feel.
Ca$hWednesday
2024-01-10 20:35:26 +0000 UTCDon't worry. New Star Trek is just as bad (if not worse) than new Star Wars. Cling on (heh heh) to the classics while we can.
Jovet
2024-01-10 20:23:58 +0000 UTC
