UNCUT REACTION - Star Trek TAS ep5 - More Tribbles, More Troubles
Added 2023-06-14 00:33:14 +0000 UTCThe tribbles are back and so is... that one guy!
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This is easily the weakest episode of TAS up to this point. The biggest problem I have with it is it comes across less as a sequel and more as a slightly different adaptation for TAS. Same characters involved, same story elements. Jones, Kirk, Koloth, grain for Sherman's planet, klingon interference(though they have a legit grievance here). The tribbles grow bigger instead of more numerous, the glommer kills the tribbles instead of the poisoned grain, bones finds a solution to control the tribbles at the end, they beam them aboard the klingon ship, there's a klingon weapon instead of a klingon spy. It really doesn't accomplish anything as a sequel, and the TOS ep is just better in every way. Stanley Adams who played Jones both times died a few years after this episode. He divorced his wife of over 30 years the same year this episode aired, and some time in the 70s he suffered a bad back injury that left him in constant pain and made it very difficult to find work. This caused severe depression and tragically led to him taking his own life in 1977.
Timothy Nikiforovs
2024-05-14 07:38:16 +0000 UTCIt first appeared in Elaan of Troyus. When the klingon captain is on screen, you can see the symbol on the wall horizontally behind him, though it's behind a screen so harder to see. It was also on the D7 filming model, but it really wasn't visible on the original footage.
Timothy Nikiforovs
2024-05-14 04:41:53 +0000 UTCThank you for the reaction. This is one of the three I remember but not as good as I remember. I know you guys weren't big fans of The Trouble with Tribbles but I loved it and was glad to see Cerino Jones again. The last episode I remember was also a sequel to an original series episode, I'm interested to see how that holds up when we get to it. I appreciate that you're watching these, thank you!
Gary Leyh
2023-06-15 04:52:01 +0000 UTCI'm one of those who loved the original tribbles episode. It's one of the ones I remember the most from when my dad forced me to watch them as a kid and the one I always asked to watch. That being said, this one is just a bit meh. Most future tribble appearances in ST from here on are only as cameos.
Elizabeth N
2023-06-14 19:50:36 +0000 UTCI already complained about Shatner a bit along those lines, too. It's easy to criticize, but also some people may just not be good at voice acting. It's not necessarily the same skill set.
Joe Concepts
2023-06-14 17:31:20 +0000 UTCEh, 6/10. The first one was this cute character episode but there is no time for that here so it is just a boring fight with tribbles thrown in. They get points for remembering the klingon from that episode and the plotline, but that really isn't enough. On another topic, Leonard Nimoy is pretty bad in these shows, voicing Spock with no energy, giving him the sound of boredom and indifference. He is the weak link here.
Ken R
2023-06-14 07:52:48 +0000 UTCThis seems pretty lazy as a sequel episode. Including the Tribbles is obviously what makes it a sequel in the first place, but more than that, they're worried about Sherman's planet again, which is in need of grain again, with the Klingons interfering again, and transporting the Tribbles over to the Klingon ship again. And the short run time doesn't give any of the jokes room to breathe, and most of the comedy of the Tribbles anyway is from the silly visuals of places being overrun by them, which just doesn't work with such a simple animation style. Kirk pushing multiple Tribbles of increasing size out of his chair in the span of a minute got a chuckle out of me. The rest just didn't work. On the positive side: am I forgetting an earlier appearance, or is this the very first time we see the Klingon emblem? The three-pointed blade-looking symbol on the walls of their ship.
Jeff Cornell
2023-06-14 02:56:04 +0000 UTCYou'll see tribbles pop up in the background throughout Star Trek from here on out. People used to say TAS wasn't "canon" but i've always thought the inclusion of them in the films and later shows means that the domesticated/neutered variant that McCoy helps perfect here ended up becoming popular pets. One bit of continuity that did not carry over it seems is the Organian Peace Treaty. It was one of the few pieces of continuity going from the first episode with Klingons to Trouble With Tribbles. The whole reason the Klingons were using a spy and trying to sabotage the grain was because an all out shooting war was no longer an option. The Organians were forcing peace on both sides. Yet, we seem to have forgotten about that since Season 3 of TOS and beyond. Something must have happened to the Organians, because they were pretty adamant about the fighting.
Steven Johnson
2023-06-14 02:31:40 +0000 UTCDavid Gerrold wrote both episodes. This was slated for Trek's third season but it was not used. There is a kinda/sorta cameo. The very thin Ensign that Kirk tells to seal off the area was him in cartoon form. At the time he was pretty thin. He wrote a cameo into the first Tribble episode (Freeman, the guy beside Chekov when Kirk has them lined up after the barfight) but his "scrawniness" kept him from doing the cameo. The pink color tribbles have been talked about for a while. Fans (and I think Gerrold himself) settled on that pink is the color of the genetically modified tribbles. But as far as the carton was concerned, they thought pink tribbles would stand out better. Lots of fun continuity errors. Like Scotty working the transporter to materialize Jones but the closeup of the arm at the console showing part of the face, you can see Kyle's mustache. One time when Kirk is talking on screen to Koloth, the image of Koloth is actually off the screen.
Mike Rogers
2023-06-14 02:24:31 +0000 UTCYes, same writer, same actor for Cyrano Jones, same Klingon captain. Fortunately for Josh no more Tribbles for awhile.
Jonathan
2023-06-14 01:46:05 +0000 UTCDavid Gerrold was indeed the writer of the original Tribbles episode. I think he had proposed this sequel for season 3, but producer Fred Freiberger didn't want comedy episodes, so it got shelved until the animated series.
James H
2023-06-14 01:18:16 +0000 UTCGotta start them young!
Josh (Target Audience)
2023-06-14 01:11:30 +0000 UTCI'm 56. Been a huge Trek fan since the beginning. Even watched the animated series on first run as an 8 yr old. Forgot about this one, completely. I'm about as big a Trek fanboy as you can get. But I gotta say... This episode sucks. Too long, not funny, too many filler shots, campy....reminded me more of a the '66 Batman series. I remember now why my mind purged this one. Ugh.
Shane Davis
2023-06-14 01:08:14 +0000 UTCI keep putting TAS on for my 14 month old son, hopefully it’ll be one of his first memories. He loves playing with his toy Enterprise!
Stuart Arbury
2023-06-14 00:50:29 +0000 UTCFirst! 🤩
Bret Kay
2023-06-14 00:42:19 +0000 UTC
