UNCUT REACTION - Star Trek TOS - Requiem for Methuselah S3E19
Added 2023-04-13 18:00:03 +0000 UTCHere is our full uncut reaction to Requiem for Methuselah
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So, for me, this is one of the most frustrating episodes of the show. The thing is, on the one hand James Daly and Louise Sorel are in my opinion among the best guest stars TOS ever had. On top of that, I love this idea of this immortal human who has lived all these lives of famous figures and just wants to be left alone. It also makes sense that after over a hundred marriages and after watching over 100 wives and potentially many other lovers wither and die, that he would desire a companion who was as immortal as he was. As far as him now losing his immortality, I don't have a problem with it. It's a tragic but somewhat poetic end to such an accomplished and long lived figure. As far as Rayna is concerned, I don't find Flint's relationship with her to be malicious, at least until jealousy entered the mix fighting with Kirk. We may equate him to a father figure, but he never created her to be a daughter. If it's a matter of age, at this point(for most of his life in fact) any woman in the galaxy will seem like a child to him. Sure he seemed to have an unhealthy possessive attitude toward her, but he would have spent the vast majority of his life in an era of history where women were widely considered property(and I'm not talking about the 20th or even 17th centuries like people like to make it out to be today). If Flint merely created her to be essentially a sex bot, he wouldn't need Kirk for much of anything. He spent a great deal of time developing her intellect to match his own, he just couldn't awaken her emotions. He wanted a companion, not a concubine. Point is, there's nothing to indicate Flint was abusing Rayna in any way, aside from perhaps sheltering her from new experiences too much. This is where the problem I have with the episode starts. This episode alone knocks Kirk down to near the bottom of my ranking of Trek captains. There are 2, maybe 3 captains I'd prefer to serve under less than Kirk, but that's it. Kirk has 430 people under his command in orbit, and they're dying. He's down to the wire to find a cure, and he seems to be more interested in stealing Rayna away from Flint. If I came within an hour of my organs melting or whatever this disease does, and found out that while I and the crew were coughing our guts out, our captain was trying to get his dick wet with an android, I'd be pissed enough to request a transfer. Not his fault the first batch was contaminated, but the INSTANT they had the second batch, he should have ordered McCoy aboard to start injections. Then later after Flint shrinks and releases the Enterprise, instead of being thankful he has the medicine and the ship is freed, he starts fighting with this guy who has the power to destroy his whole ship and crew. Again, Rayna wasn't being mistreated, and even if she had been, weigh that vs his entire crew about to die. His first responsibility is to his crew, not this woman he just met. To make it even worse, his motives weren't to save her from some horrible circumstance, it was just to have her for himself. There are episodes in Trek where characters do horrible things while under alien influence, but this wasn't one. This is Kirk putting his romantic endeavors above the lives of his entire crew, and that's an inexcusable abdication of responsibility in my book. If the Enterprise crew's lives weren't hanging by a thread, and if Flint didn't have the power to threaten the ship, it would be whatever. But fucking priorities, man. Even Spock, rational as ever was saying "dude, don't rock the boat right now". So yeah, I liked this episode overall a lot more than you guys, but I HATE what it does to Kirk's character.
Timothy Nikiforovs
2024-05-05 05:05:58 +0000 UTCThis model was used in certain shots, but the shooting model was 11 feet long and made of wood.
Mark Shampine
2023-12-27 18:48:09 +0000 UTCHmmm...that's really interesting. So Vivian burying Carly alive wasn't the first time Louise Sorel was involved in a story where someone was buried alive
Dion James Pitman
2023-04-15 11:19:30 +0000 UTCThis is a typical season 3 entry: not enough plot/too many minutes. Pretty dull, and he tells them he was also Moses, how do they not ask the questions every person on earth has an opinion or wonders about? Was Mel Brooks right and there were actually 15 commandments? The ending was no big deal for me because tomorrow at lunch Bones is going to spill the beans not realizing Kirk was mind wiped. Kirk is not lonely and the show has gone to great lengths detailing his romantic history from the lawyer in Court Martial, to the scientist in Deadly Years, whatshername in the Finnegan one, his native bride on whatever planet that was, and they ain't done yet. Plus, he is in love with his ship and crew, and has never lacked for feeling fulfilled.
Ken R
2023-04-14 08:52:55 +0000 UTCI was hooked on Days in the early 90s and loved her portrayal of Vivian Alamane.
Brad Barter
2023-04-14 04:22:25 +0000 UTCI own the first two seasons of Rod Serling's (also the host of The Twighlight Zone 1960s TV series) 1970s classic Night Gallery on DVD and one of my favourite episodes has Louise Sorel as well as the actor from The Cloudminders the High Commisioner together in an episode about a patient who could create the appearance of any illness through tapped commands. She was in love with the character who could do these things but after an incorrect tap command to revive himself from posing dead is given he is buried and once she hears the Doctor gave the wrong command she runs to the cemetery years later to awaken him and the final scene is the stuff of nightmares including her expression.
Brad Barter
2023-04-14 04:20:32 +0000 UTCI mainly enjoy this episode for Louise Sorel, who has played Vivian on Days of Our Lives on and off since 1992 (funnily enough in 1993 early into her run on that show she had to take medical leave from the show for a few weeks and was temporarily replaced by Marj Dusay from Spock's Brain). The ending is great and I agree that it is iconic. It really is an important demonstration of Spock's development. That said, when I was thinking about the episode prior to seeing your reaction I actually had the same joking thoughts that you had that perhaps Spock does this a lot.
Dion James Pitman
2023-04-13 18:57:28 +0000 UTCIt's pronounced Reck-wee-um
Brad Barter
2023-04-13 18:11:05 +0000 UTC
