Rings of Power S1E08 Watch Along
Added 2022-10-14 20:50:59 +0000 UTCHey Peaches! It's the surprise finale of season 1! Well a surprise to us anyways. This episode.... Honestly, I don't want to say anything that might spoil anything. I'll just say this. This episode is one of the best episode of TV we've seen in a very long time.
Can't wait for season 2!
Comments
i wonder if this season focused on the elves rings and the next will focus on dwarves and so on.
Dakota Jones
2022-10-19 19:56:37 +0000 UTCI know I am a bit late, but I thought I could answer a few of the questions you asked. - The rings of power have very vaguely defined powers, but for the most part they seem to grant the wearer what they most desire. For the Elves that was preserving their immortality since they don't belong in Middle Earth and need extra magic to sustain their lives there. That is why the Elves live where in their small areas when we see them in lotr, since they can only sustain a limited area. Elrond has one in Rivendell and Galadriel has one in Lothlorien. The third was with the leader in the Grey Havens (the elf port), but was given to Gandalf at some point. For the Dwarves that was making gathering more wealth (which ended up attracting a bunch of dragons). For Humans that was gaining immortality (which...kind of). Humans were the only ones truly corrupted by their rings because the Elves removed theirs when they sensed Sauron putting on the One Ring and the Dwarves' minds are incredibly hard to bend (although they all kind of went crazy with greed in some part because of the influence of their rings) - Galadriel and Elrond didn't say anything for exactly the reason Adam said. They realized that they did need to create these rings to stay and protect Middle Earth, but that Gil-galad would never agree if he knew Sauron was a part of their forging. - I have no real basis for this, but I can't help but feeling Theo or his descendants may have something to do with the creation of Rohan. Variations on Theo are in a lot of the names we associate with the important people of Rohan: "Theo"den, "Theo"dred, "The"ngel, "Eo"mer, "Eo"wyn (That also has the "wyn" From Bronwyn for good measure). They are currently going to Gondor but we know that Rohan was created by a group originally form Gondor. - Isildur is definitely not dead. We never saw his body and his horse probably ran off to find him (they are connected, remember?). Isildur and his father, Elendil fought in the Battle of the Last Alliance (prologue from Fellowship)
Elisabeth Green
2022-10-18 18:48:52 +0000 UTChe's more probably one of the two "blue wizzards" which fought Saurons minions in the east. He is on his way East to Rhûn where the 3 witches came from in the search for Sauron. also it would fit from a timeline PoV.
Jerome Engel
2022-10-17 21:32:37 +0000 UTCEven though I've pretty much assumed Halbrand was Sauron since the episode he was introduced, I still found the reveal satisfying (unlike the power broker reveal). Same with Gandalf, it seemed pretty obvious but felt earned. The Sauron plot really helps deepen Galadriel's arc and her dance with darkness. Love that it was her pursuit of Sauron that brought him back to Middle Earth and a place of power; that's something she'll have to carry with her. The show started slow but they got there in the end. Looking forward to season 2.
Claire Deeley
2022-10-17 14:48:03 +0000 UTCAs the elf king said in episode one (?), it was foreseen that in her hunt for Sauron, Galadriel would bring about his rise.
Alison Hawkes
2022-10-16 07:15:40 +0000 UTCThe real Sauron twist was so beautifully done because the seduction of it makes you almost WANT what he's saying to be true. It makes sense, there is no lie in it. Only the eventual outcome of what he's saying is where the mislead is...
FalcorDragon
2022-10-16 02:36:09 +0000 UTCOur time is short... shorter than you know... we thought we had a whole other episode!
FalcorDragon
2022-10-16 01:32:01 +0000 UTCAll things Numenor should have been S2. Celebrimbor was just like "I MUST MAKE SOMETHING MAGNIFICENT!" for seven episodes but does nothing, then gets the idea to make rings with the random stones he decided to make with a half hour to go in the season.
Shamis O'Toole
2022-10-15 06:00:00 +0000 UTCA. the mithril saving the elves storyline is totally made up for the show. Nerd of the Rings call it mithrilcholorians (midichlorians). Isildur is Aragorn's ancestor so he should be alive. The opening scenes with Galadriel giving backstory in Fellowship of the Ring has a lot of info. Maybe binge Nerd of the Rings videos or Cliff Notes of The Silmarillion? Numenor winds up mattering eventually. P.S. Halbrand probably stabbed himself to get to the Elves.
B034n76
2022-10-15 04:37:19 +0000 UTCI think Galadriel is afraid of if the others find out Sauron helped in creating the rings then the rings themselves would be considered corrupted. This all the elves would die or even worse be corrupted into something like the Uruk ,Adar.
Stephen Morris
2022-10-15 04:09:03 +0000 UTCThere are 2 videos from CGP Grey that are under 5 minutes each that explain so much. very much cliffnotes for LOTR, i cannot recommend them highly enough. 1. But What Is Gandalf, Really? (4:28) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxgsxaFWWHQ - This goes over all the races in LOTR including elves and wizards. this was probably the most helpful 2. The Rings of Power Explained (4:50)- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKU0qDpu3AM i always come back to these videos to brush up on the lore. (Also CGP Grey is awesome at explaining things)
David Machiavello
2022-10-15 04:03:53 +0000 UTCThis finale was so fun! I loved this episode. I cannot wait for future seasons TBH, this feels exciting. <3
Jacob
2022-10-15 03:36:28 +0000 UTCFor lore clarifications: The elves were the first race to ever be born in Arda (the world). They actually awoke in what is now Middle Earth, when the land was one single mega continent. Then stuff happened and the lands were split, leaving Valinor (where the Valar lived) far away to the west, Middle Earth in... well, the middle, and then some other bits further east in a different continent. The elves were then welcomed to Valinor, where most of important stuff in the First Age happens. Such as the cretions of the Silmarils by Fëanor (Celembrimbors grandfather I belive) etc. Then, the Noldor (high elves) travelled to Middle Earth to recover said Silmarils after Morgoth stole them. A fuckton of Wars happened and much of the western parts of Middle Earth sunk into the sea, leaving us with the map of Middle Earth we now know. The fact that Valinor feels otherwordly, it's because that's where essentially the gods of creation live, and the lands are only open to the elves, as they were the first race, and considered the perfect one. The dwarves were techinically the second race to be made, though they awoke from their creation after the Humans if I remember. Dwarves and Men were both made and woken in Middle Earth and none of them have ever seen or stepped foot in Valinor, until after the destruction of the One Ring and the defeat of Sauron, when the ringbearers were welcomed for their deeds and sacrifices (Bilbo and Frodo). And later Legolas brought Gimli with him after Aragorn's death, as a token of their undying friendship. The whole issue with the elves and their waning in Middle Earth is more of a spiritual one. The corruption of the land affects their spirits, diminishing their power and immortality, to the point where all elves eventually leave to go to Valinor, where the purity and magic of it can sustain them forever.
Andrea Piersanti
2022-10-15 02:12:00 +0000 UTCI have so many questions too but I think it was a good season. I hope the iron out some stuff with the writing but the score and set design were phenomenal and the acting was superb. Thanks for the watch along ✌️💚 💍
Trish Murphy
2022-10-15 01:37:07 +0000 UTCThe plot twist was not as big as a plot twist for those who know a bit of the lore, even though Halbrand was not in the source material. Sauron helped the elf smiths forge the rings under the (supposedly beautiful) guise of "Annatar", which translates to "the Lord of Gifts". So when he said: "Consider it a... gift", it was pretty clear, even though they just red-herringed us with the three acolytes and the Stranger. Also, we can now be pretty sure that it is, in fact, Olórin (who is later also known as Gandalf) from the "if in doubt, follow your nose" quote, a reference to his quote in Moria when they were stuck at the crossroads. He is still about 3000 years too early, but who knows what they'll go with. Lord of the Rings Online did the same thing and had him around for the final battle of Sauron, where he dies and vanishes until he was brought back a long time later.
Axel Dietze
2022-10-15 00:57:34 +0000 UTCIt would be pretty neat if this was the planned structure for the show’s seasons. S1: Elves getting their rings. S2: Dwarves, etc. Being called “Rings of Power”, it’d make sense? 🤷🏼♂️
Jordan Christianson
2022-10-15 00:07:02 +0000 UTCAlso, the "just follow your nose" comment was a direct reference to a line Gandalf says in Fellowship in the Mines of Moria: "If in doubt, Meriadoc, follow your nose." (1:51:45) When Galadriel said at "he needs Elvish medicine" at the end of Episode 7, that was a direct quote of Aragorn from Fellowship after Frodo was stabbed on Weathertop. (1:04:40). There have been a *lot* of these little references throughout the series, which those of us who have watched the movies a few too many times (*cough*) have been picking up. (I gave you the timestamps in case you wanted to look at them for yourselves; the original trilogy is available on Prime.)
Kristen
2022-10-14 23:59:37 +0000 UTCRe: the rings: it's the first thing mentioned in the prelude to Fellowship: "It began with the forging of the great rings. Three were given to the elves: immortal, wisest, and fairest of all beings. Seven to the dwarf lords, great miners and craftsmen of the mountain halls. And nine...nine rings were gifted to the race of men, who, above all else, desire power. For within these rings was bound the strength and will to govern each race. But they were all of them deceived, for another ring was made...." And then they talk about how Sauron forged a "Master" ring in the fires of Mount Doom that would control all the others, aka: the One Ring to Rule them All. So, we just saw them forge the elven rings; we'll probably see the dwarf rings in Season 2.
Kristen
2022-10-14 23:43:38 +0000 UTCI'm so happy you feel this way. I've been greatly pleased with this show.
The Hero's Wizard
2022-10-14 22:55:23 +0000 UTCI can lore dump you all you want on the Tolkien if you like guys - I'm not Stephen Colbert but I have history lol. To answer the stuff you raised in the outro (in an over simple way) it sometimes helps to think of Valinor (magic elf land out west) as "semi heaven" and elves as not-quite angels but pretty close ie they don't die... they are sustained by the light of Valinor. That existed there in the two trees you saw in ep 1 and Morgoth stole it, put it into gems called the Silmarils (which he wore in a crown because... asshole... go figure) and they all went over to Middle Earth to get them back (the big war at the start). The reason they want the rings is to amplify the power of the lil bit of mithril which has come from the lost silmaril which was in the tree and ended up going down the roots into becoming mithril so it contains more of the light of Valinor which they think has all but gone in Middle Earth (so hey look that tree we brought from home which we never needed to water before suddenly looks like the xmas tree mid january). The interesting part (and why they're bringing up Numenor as a plot) is the Numenoreans got the stink eye at the elves because they think they get the immortality *from* Valinor (where they aint allowed to go) and are jealous as all get out. The irony is that Valinor doesn't make people immortal, it's just the land where nothing changes so it's where the immortals are suited to live, doing nothing much but singing praises to Eru Ilúvatar (aka God dude). Let me know if that helps? - Antonia
Antonia Eldritch (tonijaconi)
2022-10-14 22:50:24 +0000 UTCThat three shows down for you guys in a single week what are you going to do with all that free time?
Andrew Christian (APChrist)
2022-10-14 21:02:11 +0000 UTC
