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[BOYS II PLANET] EPISODE 10

[BOYS II PLANET] EPISODE 10

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2:58:13 absolutely. The past week has been rough for Xinlong fans since the leaks dropped that he ranked 4th and it got even worse after the episode dropped and confirmed it. He's been dropped from 3pick by top ranking trainees' fans, and also not a popular 3pick vote by underrated trainee fans since he's deemed as a PD pick. Thankfully he's still popular with more casual fans and his fanbases are doing a good job bolstering fan support and organizing alliances outside the show.

jasmin

This episode was a hard one, so many of the ones I also like were eliminated like Seowon, Chen Bowen, Fan Zheyi and Jung Hyun Jun. I really like them but they were eliminated. I wish Chen Bowen had more screen time but I still hope he gets recruited by another company or a possible chance to debut in the future.

Kirsten Esguerra

So what sets PLAVE apart from other “virtual” K-pop idols is that there is a real person behind each “idol”. They’re not created by AI or Deepfake and the voice isn’t computer generated so they’re not like a Hatsune Miku type vocaloid but a person in a motion capture suit, basically like they’re a real person who’s wearing a mask. So though they’re animated figures in screen, they seem more personable and relatable and they do interact with fans and live stream so fan get to see bits of their personalities. There’s compilations of their image glitching out and it’s hilarious to see how they react when their limbs are suddenly not bending the correct way. They’re definitely an interesting concept in K-pop and while their real identities are like an open secret, fans generally try to keep it from becoming widely known since they want to remain behind the mask and not break that imagery.

Secretninja312 (Tina)

1:31:33 yes, there are screentime analyses on the subreddit. I think one person used a software to track screentime + analysis of whether it's a positive feature, negative feature, reaction shots etc. A different person also has done analyses + rankings of who is mnet's picks, who's liked but not pick, neutral, evil edit, ghost edit. 1:35:30 it's my time to °˖✧. ~shine~ .✧˖° PLAVE is closer to the vtuber culture than vocaloid, but these two are pretty adjacent. Vocaloid: digitized human voice as an instrument so amateur producers can make songs without having to use their own voice or reach out to a singer. Each 'voice' has a character avatar e.g. Miku that takes a life of their own thanks to community written songs, stories, art, memes. Utaite: Amateur singers, most of whom cover their faces, and release song covers. Usually use PNGs for avatars, and sometimes do streams or other content. This community started out vocaloid and anime focused, but nowadays popular Jpop songs get covered too. Sidenote: a lot of Vocaloid producers and utaites have debuted professionally in the music industry under their real names. Kenshi Yonezu for example was a popular Vocaloid producer. Some have also found success under their pseudonymous utaite name. Vtubers: humans use digital avatars to make content under a persona. The individual can do most anything the usual content creator would do - sing, stream, 3D dance, 3D podcast. Unlike vocaloid, each persona is tied to the human behind it. A lot of crossover with utaite community and youtubers in general as those who previously would use PNGs to keep their face hidden now use vtuber avatars so they can do content like streaming too. If you find a vocaloid cover nowadays ~50% chance they're a vtuber too. (It's so linked that non-singers who become vtubers also feel pressure to make covers). Vtubers and idols: There's crossover with Japanese / JP-adjacent idol fans too since PNG idols have been popular since forever. Every other month there's a new color-coded online idol group, and some of them get really popular and perform at stadiums. Many of them are linked to utaite or vocaloid community. 3D vtuber models allow people to perform online and offline concerts without showing their faces. Vtubers in Korea: The KR branch of Nijisanji, a JP company, used to be the biggest Vtuber group there, but they didn't properly capture the market and eventually merged their branch back to the main JP. Nowadays the biggest vtuber-community Vtuber group is probably Isegye Idol, a virtual idol group formed through a survival show by a popular KR Twitch streamer. They release songs and also stream. Their songs have charted before, they've held a concert at a stadium. I consider them different from PLAVE because they're mostly managed by the streamer guy and have a company for legalities. Aside from them there's some color-coded KR Vtuber idols that's gained popularity in the last 2-3 years. They release covers and also stream. PLAVE: Unlike most vtubers that have only face/head tracking 2D avatars usually and maybe 3D avatar for special events where they have to go to a studio for mocap, PLAVE is with a tech company so they have dedicated mocap and studio and use 3D avatars. PLAVE releases songs and also stream a lot. They have really good self-produced music and I remember at the start of 5th gen they were competitive with ZB1 (I haven't kept track of their achievements since). If you want to check them out, I'd recommend their Killing Voice. If you notice the trend, Vtubers release music (get casual listeners) + stream (build core fandom). There are successful vtubers who are content creators with no / minimal music, but these two are the bread and butter for virtual idols. (I'm the casual listener fan)

jasmin


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