Announcement about fees

you are spot on! December will work as usual but starting on January I will have pledge options for people to subscribe too and pay only once a month. For the moment the account would stay the same as a "per creation" but you'd be able to choose the $8 dollar level for example and cap it at once per month. That'd amount to $8.58 which is way better than the current model.

Elven Tower

The fixed sum (0.35) added on to each pledge is really bad for per-post pledges. It seems the only way to respond is to group the posts, to pledge per-month rather than per-post... A 35-cent fee on $8/month isn't too bad, a 35-cent fee on $1/post is really bad. I don't know how easy Patreon makes it to move from a per-post to per-month model though, without losing subscribers... Good luck figuring it out

Max Gibiansky

Thanks for your words Bruce. Yeah this really sucks, specially for "per creation" accounts like this one because they plan to charge those fees for each thing. December is already rolling but what I will probably do is create some new pledge levels so people choose how much to pay once per month so these fees are minimized.

Elven Tower

Thanks a bunch Chuck. yeah we're talking small dollars here but the contentious way this is being done is what is flipping everybody off.

Elven Tower

I am not sure how this will affect me because right now I am seeing different ideas on how much this will cost. I do know I will be backing out of a few other pledges I belong to. Either way by doing this they are in all actuality only hurting the artists that create the material on here. I think this is a real bad business decision by Patreon but we'll see how it turns out.

Bruce Meyer

I don't mind them adding fees for me to pay. They might add fees to your side. But the double dipping and static fee er transaction are what stick in my craw. That said, I'm here for the content and will be here.

Chuck Dee

From what I gathered on the message, instead of a patron paying a $1.00 pledge, they will pay $1.38 instead. I think they should have kept the fee on the other side and made it fixed (like they have now, instead of some fluctuating fee that they used for an excuse to change it) for the Patreon user. It makes things cleaner for the supporters. I support Derek/Elven Tower because I get a great product that I need for my game-play. The fee change doesn't change that fact. I will continue to support because of the concrete help I get. This change does make it harder for those who support multiple Patreon creators (at least It would affect my desire to have multiple).

Brandon Pohja

Did you get a good read on that? “Starting December 18th, we will apply a new service fee of 2.9% + $0.35 that patrons will pay for each individual pledge. ” The 2.9% and the $0.35 are both for the Patron. Considering most pledges are $1, they were taking 5-15% and now they’ll be taking 37.9% from you. I already wrote an email to them addressing this bullsh... issue. Hope all works on the Patrons and consumers favor.

Thanks a lot Robert, I really appreciate it. Hope you're having tons of games :D

Elven Tower

Thanks a lot Richard. Yes I believe you are correct.

Elven Tower

Thank you very much Derek. Not little at all, you've been here for a while, I appreciate it.

Elven Tower

I know it will be a small amount, I just wished we'd been given more time. Thanks for your support.

Elven Tower

The percentage is not that big. I'm willing to give it a try. It's content that matters to me. I've backed a dozen or so Patreon creators. I'm down to five now. I change add and subtract those I support on the content they make and if I'll use it.

Thanks for the heads up on this. For what it's worth, it looks like the company is shifting the credit card/debit card/bank/PayPal processing fee to the patron. It will not change my support for you and your work. Thanks for everything you do.

Appreciate the transparency on this one! My pitiable little donation shall remain steadfast.

Derek Burge

Not sure how I feel about the changes, but thanks for being open and transparent with us. It'll probably be the difference of a few dollars (or less even) a month, so I don't think many will have a problem with it.

Tyler Moore