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Industrious - Chapter 45

Here it is!  At long last!  Relationship progress!

Oh, and Hinata shows up, too.  But that's mostly going to be a next-chapter thing, given how the scene's pacing developed.

On the good news front, it looks as though my AC is getting fixed soon, so I won't be dying of heat stroke in my sleep.  I'll only have to worry about it while I'm at work!  Woo!

Hope everyone else is staying cool and living their best life.  Thanks again for your support.

Industrious - Chapter 45

Comments

Wait I thought he had kids and a wife. I don't remember though. So shouldn't it be impossible for him not to have sex before. Lol

Kris Larsen

@Zerak. As much as I am flattered you think this is my argument, it really isn't. This is something I have learned from hearing other men talk about their experiences in dating, studies I have read about the amount of sexual partners and how they affect marriage and divorce statistics. Men, especially those only interested in sleeping with a woman, will say whatever they think will get her into bed with him, not what they really think. Men will agree with women over things they dont believe for a bit of fun in the bed. But when they are looking for a long term girlfriend or wife, they don't do these same things. This causes problems because women think they know what men want because of the players, but they really dont. And women in general dont listen to men when they explicitly state what they do and do not want from women. Being promiscuous is something a woman cannot take back, they cant change it or fix it, once it happens its done. This means they have a very hard time accepting that men don't want promiscuous women, they get angry, accuse men of being insecure, and a whole host of other things.

Ramon Diaz

I agree there would have to be some major propaganda to push for something that more or less destroys relationships. That whole Vegas Rules only really applies to men. Men can forget about women who they have slept with and formed no connection to easily. Women cannot do that, and if they could do that easily then it means they don't really care about you. The more partners a woman has, the less she cares about any of them. She will only really think about the first few, or if she is lucky a really attractive man who gave her attention for a while before moving on. Women mostly dont care about a man's body count. On the contrary, a lot of women respect a man more the more experience he has, simply because it means he knows what to do in bed, and how to deal with relationships. Men don't want experienced women, they want a woman who is as inexperienced and pure as possible. You can say its not fair or equal, and its not, but that does not matter. Life is not fair, men and woman want different things, and if a woman wants to have a good relationship with a man, she must take into account what he wants. If I was shinobi I would never enter a relationship with any kunoichi I knew did those kinds of missions, not even once. I would never be able to trust her. Is she sleeping with me because she likes me, or some other reason such as a mission from up higher, or because I am higher ranked than her, make more money or can provide her with things she cannot get herself or from the men she does like? These kinds of questions may seem strange, but that is because they are what happens in real life. They are the things we as men should think about when getting into any kind of long term relationship with a woman.

Ramon Diaz

Everyone here is coming up with such reasonable explanations and all I thought of was: “Oh no, yandere Hinata is displeased with the amount of time you’re spending with Naruko!”

Matthew Moore

I mean, that is why the three 'main girls' are refusing the potential opportunities implied by such a position. Satsuki in particular doesn't want to admit it, but she prefers someone with an emotional connection rather than one-night stands, but thinks it would make her look less assertive. Even Kota admits that it usually functions under a type of 'Vegas Rules' agreement because people are uncomfortable actually discussing it. So while there's the reality of the situation, there's also the common perception and propaganda of the occupation. Male shinobi and female kunoichi are kind of expected to be sexually promiscuous, and some of them live up to that, but at least an equal number are uncomfortable with those kinds of relationships.

Slayer Anderson

That is a valid argument, and very well thought out. I’ll have to look into some of what you said as it seems very interesting.

Zerak

Can't say I agree with Kotaro's offering regarding exclusivity to the girls. Unfortunately real life affects my thoughts on this matter. No matter girls I can attract whether it be 2 or 10 or any number greater than 1, especially if they know about each other, I would never tolerate much less offer them to sleep with another man. I would my best to make them happy, meet their wants and needs, to a point. However, the moment they ask for anything like an open relationship, or even a one time pass, that would be the end of any association between me and her. Men and women are different no matter how much we think they are not, no matter how much social engineering, the media, or the powers that be try to insist, we are not the same. We are not bonobos. Women will bond with their first few partners, the numbers I've seen say around 5 or so, or you have to be the greatest man she has ever met in her life, and even then its very iffy. They will lose their ability to bond with a man rapidly the more partners they have. This is almost completely unarguable with the way relationships and marriage are going, especially in western countries. Men can also get to the point, if they are successful enough, to consider almost any woman as just another lay. This happens a lot for the men most women chase, 6 foot plus, 6 figure salary plus, in good physical condition. These kinds of men however are the exception for the most part, but would still absolutely settle down with an 20 year old virgin girl, who is lets say a 7-8 in looks, has a good personality, and is helpful to him, gives him peace. Even in the world of Naruto, with bullshit space magic, especially because of Ninshu, the ability to connect our minds and souls in a way that is impossible in real life, men and women would not change. It would take millions of year for evolution to change how we behave toward each other. This is not a criticisms on the writing or decisions of the author. This is me stating my thoughts on the situation.

Ramon Diaz

Neji pulled an Itachi and killed off almost all of the main branch after his father died.

Slayer Anderson

Hinata is a girl.

Slayer Anderson

Wait is Hinata a boy? I don’t think that ever came up in the story. I am sure it would come up. Like if he had a boy and a girl the clan head can have them marry and not put the cursed seal on either of them. When you said something was wrong I thought you meant behaviour not physical. So can you clear up if Hinata is a boy or a girl? Usually I would wait for next chapter, but sometimes it takes a long time between chapters so I would like to know.

Zerak

best guess for a relative innocuous change explaining why Hinata is showing socialability and confidence would be that Hizashi is still around, leading to, among other things, a better relation to Neji

saganatsu

If you did say something about that, it would either be in the previous Comment Sections of Industrious or in the Main Theads themselves.

Draconic Hermit

Correct, Kotaro would find Femboi Hinata to be hot, not wrong. Also, it would be an easy thing to understand given that Hinata's gait would be different. Putting aside the fact that I think I've gone on record that Team 7 will be the only gender-bent characters in the fic.

Slayer Anderson

The whole "something's wrong with this girl" bit makes me worried about what exactly is going on with the Hyuuga, especially since Natsu would have no reason to interfere with Hinata getting bullied due to having her own escort back home and inadvertently inspire her like Bort's Dad did. It's not a surprise Gender Bender, Kota isn't the kind of guy who'd think that type of thing to a cross dresser or an Astolfo Style Femboi.

Draconic Hermit

Hinata and Hanabi get? Well Hinata is graduating and there are no adults left from the main branch, so maybe at her little sister’s instance to keep training Kota she wanted to meet him. Also knowing he trained the strongest 3 in her class might have driven her since she is not responsible for the safety of her sister. If anything I think if a relationship were to develop it would be out of seeking benefit from Hinata’s end (at first), though maybe actual interest from Hanabi. From what you have shown so far ninja students are trained to a much higher standards and know the importance of political stuff and sex. So Hinata might be looking at this as an opportunity to secure a better position for herself and her sister by associating with someone who can help look after her when she is gone or any other reason. Expected Naruko to be involved but it makes sense that if it is it would be later. Though Kushina might drop by to say “Thank you” and it’s good to have the specialist there when trying out the new upgrades. Edit: I like how it took a while to build up to this and ground rules were set. Also with Tenten I assume the hokage will let anyone in charge know she shouldn’t be used on honey trap missions since no gain from that would be more valuable than her being another point to anchor Kota to the village. With the hazards of shinobi life it would be easy for one or more of the girls close to him to die on mission, and till he has kids and sets roots in the village he is still a flight risk, so I highly doubt the hokage would not have thought of that and made sure to elevate the importance of Tenten as an asset thus not being used as the honey trap, or the person who stays behind to cover for the rest. And her skill set conveniently would allow that to be used as the reason, since seal masters or seal master hopefuls are not easy to come by.

Zerak

Hinamaru-san wants to trap the boi with his surprise bussy is what my prediction is

Doggi


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