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Edited | One Piece | 146 & 147

E146 - Quit Dreaming! Mock Town, the Town of Ridicule!
E147 - Distinguished Pirates! a Man Who Talks of Dreams and the King of Undersea Search!

Our crew has rolled up on a ROUGH island! This time we reallyyyy can't wait for Luffy to deliver a Gum Gum Pistol to the face. Bellamy can kick rocks. Even so, we were so proud of Luffy and Zoro for being the bigger pirates 😭❤️. Love this crew so much. Thanks for watching and we'll see you for the next one!
-Haylo & Kiss 💕

Edited | One Piece | 146 & 147

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It's not just to prove that they can take it. Their argument was about what real pirates are, and Luffy fundamentally believes that the dreams of men are still real. There was no way to convince them, especially not through fighting, and fighting would have only brought them down to Bellamy's gang's level, trying to beat their ideology into people to prove that their right. The only way to win was to show that Bellamy's gang couldn't beat their ideology into Luffy. And it was a lesson Luffy learned from Shanks. It's not the exact same, but it's definitely derived from the bottle scene in the bar.

Mythrial

Nami is angry at the bad words and says they will allow the fight, but I think that Luffy and Zoro just did not fight because they decided that is not worth fighting Bellamy and his friends who have lost dreams and pride of pirates. There is no reason why fight Lufy have to fall down to the same level as thug? Luffy will fight for his friends and when he has to defend his pride as a pirate, but he won't fight a fight where he has to be twisted by force for no reason.

よに 。

I just take it as he was doing what nami wished and showed restraint that he can not cause problems everywhere they go, I’m unsure though

christopher scott

They have no idea who they just met smh, but they will smh

christopher scott

I struggle to understand why Luffy let themselves get beat up. I think it's to prove a point that they can take it. Zoro does it like on a dare because Luffy said they're not fighting. I think it was a trial for both of them. Also the first time I saw it looked brutal but in actuality they looked pretty bad but I think it was something they could easily recover from - although - I think they would have done it even close to death... but I think the Bellamy gang didn't have enough power. So I think they were really beat up. The point was not to fight. Both of them had gotten beat up pretty badly in the past, for reasons, in pursuit of their dreams. Maybe in this case the meaning was in not fighting. Even in this altercation, they risk their lives for their dreams. I think that must be the reason.

Em McG

I have Usopp's legendary rubber band he used against Choo! One of a kind, only a thousand Beri!!

paddy_b

They knew today is One Piece day so they took a holiday vacation 😁

Skele

Are you the one piece salesman 😂😂

Skele

The 2 shirts I linked to don't have spoilers for them. I just thought they'd like some cool merch 🤷🏽‍♂️

paddy_b

Then maybe don't post these kind of topics?

Eniahj

funny thing is the japanese word "ita" means "plank" but also "ouch". That's why chopper reaches usopp another plank even tho he just hitted his thumb with the hammer. :D

MrMegaman94

hate to say it, but they need to slow down so they can speed up, if you get my meaning. eliminate the extra live action on tues/fri after fallout and just alternate the tues/thurs as they finish those shows.

Iceman Radioactive formerly Joe (Moore)-An, a.k.a. No Meds Muscles Ripley, Stalwart Neelix Defender, currently adrift in space

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paddy_b

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paddy_b

i need the next episodes so bad guuuys <3

axl rose

Anyone know why today’s episode (I assume 148-149) is delayed?

Isaac Ahlquist

147 one of the most important episodes in the series whether you know it or not

Ian

he/they has/have appeared...lol. I thought one of them would notice.....

Iceman Radioactive formerly Joe (Moore)-An, a.k.a. No Meds Muscles Ripley, Stalwart Neelix Defender, currently adrift in space

The scene where the guy affirms Luffy's beliefs & dreams is so good! Glad he's an "old school good one" lol

Cosmic Ghidorah

Alright, I (re-)watched ahead and finished the arc. And I think it gave more meaning to Luffy's bar scene. This part will contain spoilers so... Skypia Spoiler: When Luffy was fighting and eventually beating the final boss he was simultaneously making sure to ring the legendary golden bell of the island. He was literally obsessed with ringing that bell. Why? Because as much as he cared about beating Enel, he also cared about proving that Noland and his descendants weren't liars and that Skypia is real. And that last part also connects to the bar scene. Bellamy and his crew mocked the idea of Skypia's existence and Luffy had no way to prove them wrong in that moment. This may be going too deep, but I feel like Luffy may have also felt too "depressed/frustrated" to fight back and sort of resigned (see unclenching of fist). The only way to really fight back was to prove them wrong about Skypia, but he had no way doing that in that moment. And this also connects to Luffy's mission in life: finding the One Piece. Just like with Skypia, many also doubt the One Piece's existence. Bellamy does it himself in this scene, which makes it like 'if Skypia isn't real, then the One Piece isn't real either. But also vice versa, which adds to Luffy's motivation to prove that Skypia is real. Luffy unclenches his fist right after Bellamy mocks the One Piece and the people who believe in it. Did he think of Shanks in that moment? Or did Bellamy's words affect him? I think Shanks showed him that it's ok to not fight back in certain situations, but I think Luffy's reason not to fight back was different from Shanks and had more to do with Bellamy's words.

B.G.

It's a minor scene, but I absolutely love the scene where Sarquiss throws money at the Straw Hats and Nami drags them away in refusal. Would she have done that if she still needed the 100 million to save her village? No idea, but she's still money-obsessed as a quirk, so it's telling what her limits are. It makes me love how multi-dimensional of a character Nami is.

Kitsune Inferno

Amazing reaction once again!! PS: Patiently waiting for aot suite reaction:)

PO

I always comeback to this episode for bits and pieces I missed

Miguel

until Luffy shows up and kills their dreams, that is (if you're acting a fool)

Mojito

Cherry pie man is the exact opposite of Luffy. Also what Zoro said about him is also important titbits.

Anton Ny

Regarding Nami: Yes, she has a strong personality and I doubt she has any lasting trauma from getting laughed at by a bar full of hostile scumbags or them joking about buying her, like some sex slave. She went through too much and will go through too much, for this to have an impact. But at that very moment? Yes, she was hurt quite a bit, so much so that she was throwing a rage fit even when back on the ship. I can't see Shanks letting that happen to Makino just to avoid a 10 second fight, regardless of how strong a personality she has (being a bartender and all). And another reason why I think that the Shanks situation was quite different, is the tone. Shanks was completely unfazed by how he was treated by that Bandit and was able to laugh out loud along with his crew. Did we see Luffy even crack a smile after he got his beating? No. Why not? Why not joke about it and show Nami that it's not a big deal to make her feel better? Because there was more going on here than with the Shanks thing.

B.G.

"People's dreams never die!" is a great line. I am such a dork, but I still remember it every time I am down lol.

Akagami

That scene between the pie guy and Luffy is extremely important. You shall see.

tj

This pace feels perfect for us also!

Haylo

We totally failed to make this connection! Maybe because it seemed so much harsher here 😂. That makes it all the more better!!

Haylo

I think your point is completely valid. To say that Nami was emotionally abused would be a bit of a stretch though. She simply was called a fool and laughed at in her face - same could be said for Zoro and Luffy. But clearly she was more sensitive to their taunts than the guys were. I think Oda essentially had Nami there to mirror the sentiment of a lot of us watching, scratching our heads in a rage, asking why Luffy wouldn't fight back. Even after the fight was over and the dust had settled, and even after the pie-eating man explicitly told her that they WON the fight, that answer did not sit right with her. She was still reeling with anger after the fact. Personally, I don’t see this as 1:1 reenactment from the Shanks bar scene nor is it the same lesson. But it kind of reminds you of that and shows you how Luffy has matured (idk if thats the right word to describe Luffy though) from his kid self. Luffy of the past, would have definitely thrown a punch right back and acted exactly as Nami did. But there are parallels between both scenes. I don’t think Shanks swallowed his pride back then, he literally did not care, the dude wasn’t even worth a second look and he knew that the bandit could not actually hurt him. Same could be said here, although Luffy and Zoro were bleeding, they really did not take any serious injuries, and I think Luffy knew that they couldn’t really hurt Zoro. Even on the ship when they brushed their injuries off, they could not understand why Nami was still so upset, the bar fight did not linger in their mind for a second longer, they literally couldn’t care less. Not defending against punches seems a bit extreme for sure, but if a 6 year old kid came jumping at you with fists, would you fight back? You know their fists don’t really hurt and they are just being an immature brat. Essentially - if your dreams and aspirations were laughed at, how would you respond? I don’t think Oda is saying there is a right answer. Some will feel wronged and violently counter. Some will just see it as a bump on the road. I think Oda is just inviting you to see the latter. Just my opinion though.

pink turtle

It’s nice to see the different type of pirates there are out there, with different ideas of how a pirate should be. Next week’s episodes are fire!! This new schedule of 6 episodes a week is great. It’s moving the show at a good pace without being overwhelming I think.

BashaM

Early on in the series, when asked why Luffy doesn't kill his enemies, Oda responded in an SBS that: "in the One Piece world, where characters live to fulfill their dreams, having their dreams shattered, by Luffy defeating them, is actually more devastating than death" Imo that perfectly encapsulates why Luffy didn't feel the need to fight Bellamy here (besides following in Shanks' footsteps ofc)

klairvoyage

I think the Shanks flashback is about more than one lesson. The first bar scene where we meet Higuma teaches the lesson of not starting a fight over any personal insult, essentially pick your battles - which directly applies to this bar scene with Luffy and Zoro. The second encounter with Higuma brings up Shanks' principle of fighting to protect friends (plus, responding with equal levels of violence - if you're gonna pull out a pistol, you better be ready to get shot) The emotional damage/embarrassment I think is dependent on how far things go - Luffy and Zoro definitely know that Nami has a strong personality, so I think it makes sense that they didn't start a fight over that.

Mimi

beat me to it

Seb

Ok, I'm not. I mean it could be part of it, like I said, but there is obviously more going on here. The Shanks incident was similar, but still too different. The message there was "you can pour a drink on me, but don't you dare hurt my friends". With Luffy's situation, Zoro got physically hurt and Nami got emotionally hurt. I very much doubt that Shanks would have stood by and let the Bandits verbally abuse Makino like that.

B.G.

No, I'm pretty confident the scene is meant to be an ode to Shanks. There are other points in the series where Luffy imitates Shanks, so this scene isn't unique in that respect.

bertaunth

I don't know if the bar scene with Luffy taking a beating makes a lot of sense or is even meant to. Did Luffy try to immitate Shanks here? Idk, Shanks didn't actually order his crew to take a beating for him, he just swallowed his own pride to avoid unnecessary conflict. Then again, Zoro got involved by himself, also becoming a target, so Luffy had to tell him to not fight back also if his goal was to avoid a big fight. Plus he knew Zoro could take the beating. Had they touched Nami, things would have drastically changed. But why though? Luffy isn't Shanks. Since when does he avoid beating up scumbags who provoke him by smashing his face through a counter? Does he really pity them because they don't believe in perusing dreams? Enough to take that kind of beating and having Zoro go through it as well? Idk, it seems to be the most likely explanation, but it's not really a good one. So maybe there isn't a satisfying explanation. Maybe it's all of the above, PLUS Luffy being Luffy.

B.G.

When i was watching one piece when i was 12/13 yrs old. Out of all the emotional scenes in the series, this one stood out for me and felt the most connection with. DREAMS and RESOLVE!! 🏴‍☠️

markus

Luffy 2.0? More like the "Anti-Luffy". Not based on anything spoilery, just based on him liking/disliking the opposite food of what Luffy liked. As you probably can tell, or even know by now, this character introduction is one of the more weighty ones.

B.G.

iconic scene for sure

Alexander Tonkins

Pie man is a legend for that hardcore line about dreams.

Barion

Zehahahaha

Eone

I love how Oda often sets a scene and lets the readers/watchers interpret the meaning/intention without spelling it out for us, and your reactions did not disappoint!! The one-sided fight at the bar definitely sent me back to the Shanks bar scene where kid Luffy yelled at Shanks for yielding in that fight, saying he was "not a real man." You can see how much he's grown now that he also understands that there are fights not worth fighting. Bellamy is the antithesis to Luffy - he has no dreams and mocks those who do, someone who is simply not worth our time. Get strapped in as Oda sets the theme for this next arc: Dreams!

pink turtle

Zehahahaha

Eone

You watched the "Breathtaking world of One Piece" video, so you should remember the iconic phrase "people's dreams never end" at the very end of it.

Lucia Petrozzi

After Crocodile, the new guy we all want to punch in the face is Bellamy! Next week's going to be so fire with where this arc goes next!

fr0st

Yes, really important one, for the future.

Mick Félix

I don’t know if anyone else mentioned it, but Bellamy’s wanted poster was an Easter egg in the live action. It was on the bulletin board when Luffy first complained about not having a bounty. There are a few other future characters also listed, in addition to Jango’s even though he was cut from the series. They’re all accurate to the bounty pictures shown in the manga

Renee

"peoples dreams...have no end!!" i love that line delivery its really iconic. if you guys remember its the last voice line that was in The Breathtaking World of One Piece.

aydin sofian

remember the bar scene with Shanks, thats where Luffy is pulling some inspiration from but Luffy and Zoro took a tougher beating. Lol

Goon

I absolutely understand the frustration of watching Luffy and Zoro just getting beat up without doing anything, but at the same time it's just so freaking cool. These guys just really weren't worth the effort of a fight

AiraKT

yup and vice versa, as you can see Luffy doesnt say and do anything back to Bellamy and his crew

Goon

You girls just watched a very important episode. Remember it well

D Q

Zoro using progressive pronouns 👏👏👏

william munoz

atheist jerk, sure. Just because you don't believe isn't cause to mock those who do

draeonic 🪼

Love your reactions so much. I could never do want Luffy and Zoro did.

John Paul

you got it right, they're dreamless and not deserve to call themselves a pirate. that's why luffy did not fight back, he dont want to stood up to thier level. people's dream have no end - some random guy :)

StarBoi

Oh the guy I hate the most randomly showed up in these episodes. I completely forgot.

ttchoppa

the believer vs the atheist type of dogma

Goon

147 is such a favorite of mine, if only because of the "People's dreams have no end" moment. Fun fact: this moment happens in volume 24, chapter 225 of the manga, titled "People's Dreams". (The volume is also named after the chapter)

Jonas do Prado

Bellamy…I wish he were real so i could beat him up myself 😭 I hate that man sooo much more than y’all hated Croc

Chris

Completely forget that he gets introduced this episode lol

Dank Waifu

that bar scene is one of my all time favorite moments, instant tone setter xD and poor Nami getting all red and embarrassed D':

Goon

The best speech in all of one piece takes place in this arc as well as many iconic moments still remembered today and yet nobody ever talks about this arc Even my favorite episode of the whole series ep 151 is Jaya. This arc is extremely underrated

Salman

I completely forgot about these episodes. Wild.

Jonathan Charles

W take, I'm always so surprised to see Jaya so low on arc tier lists, Its an easy top 10 for me

Roadery

Zehahaha

Allen Ruiz

Jaya is where I knew One Piece was my favorite. The sense of adventure and Luffy’s boundless optimism hooked me right in. That was almost 20 years ago now, love to see new fans still finding it for the first time.

Isaac Ahlquist

one of the most mysterious guys got introduced, hype. :D

MrMegaman94

Carissasan!!! Hayleechan!!! Hello ladies!! hehehe

CacoMetal

PEOPLE'S DREAMS... HAVE NO END!! 👇Cherry Pie Gang Zehahahahahaha

Roadery


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