Edited | Band Of Brothers | Episode 9
Added 2024-02-05 15:00:13 +0000 UTC
"Why We Fight"
This has to have been one of the hardest to watch/most important episodes of TV we have ever seen. We really hope that our respect for our troops is apparent during these reactions. Apologies if we say anything that offends, it's never our intent. Thank you for coming along with us as we learn what it really meant to be a soldier in the 101st!
Thank you so much for all of your love and support here on Patreon. Until the next one!
-Haylo & Kiss 💕
What isreal is doing is way worse then slitting throats. They are bombing children and women from the sky. Vaporizing them alive. They have killed 12000 children so far. They have been killing and torrorising palestians for the past 75 years way prior to october the 7th. Even historically speaking while everyone was trying to get rid of the jews and push them around the muslims accepted them, and the christians. They were given rights and this is how they show there gratitude to the only people that gave them a chance. With that said youre one of two things to call what isreal is currently doing "defence": beyond ignorant or an evil pig that doesnt care about annocent lives including children
xoral
2024-02-26 21:41:34 +0000 UTC
The fact that you could watch this and compare it to what is going on in gaza is fundamentally sick. How dare you compare isreals actions to defend itself against people who were slitting their infants throats with what the national socialists where doing. You are no better than the people who enabled this sort of thing to happen.
John webster
2024-02-26 20:33:03 +0000 UTC
I must say I don't comment on Patreon a lot, much less about "controversial topics" but this reminds me of what Isreal is doing to Palestine and Gaza. cutting off there water and food and bombing them for the last 3 months. they killed thousands of children and women raining down bombs from the sky. its like one big concentration camp. And there opression is mentioned in the Quran btw (as well as there invertible downfall). for those interested; 17:4 (And We warned the Children of Israel in the Scripture, “You will certainly cause corruption in the land twice, and you will become extremely arrogant.). 17:5 (When the first of the two warnings would come to pass, We would send against you some of Our servants of great might, who would ravage your homes. This would be a warning fulfilled.). 17:6 (Then ˹after your repentance˺ We would give you the upper hand over them and aid you with wealth and offspring, causing you to outnumber them.). 17:7 (If you act rightly, it is for your own good, but if you do wrong, it is to your own loss. “And when the second warning would come to pass, your enemies would ˹be left to˺ totally disgrace you and enter that place of worship as they entered it the first time, and utterly destroy whatever would fall into their hands.)
xoral
2024-02-07 11:28:59 +0000 UTC
React to "The Fallen of World War II" it really puts into perspective how many lives were lost to WW2.
George P Burdell
2024-02-07 06:22:42 +0000 UTC
I recommend "The Pacific" (2010) (10 episodes), which is a companion piece to Band of Brothers. The same executive producers Tom Hanks/Steven Spielberg. Helps to give a more complete picture of WWII.
Clay F
2024-02-07 02:45:54 +0000 UTC
What gets lost to history is Japanese Unit 731. They use to experiment on Allied POWs and Chinese civilians with biological, chemical weapons and even experimented on them like Nazi, Dr. Mengele.
The Soviets executed thousands of Polish soldiers when they invaded Poland with Germany in 1939. Of the hundreds of thousands of German and Japanese POWs captured by the Soviets. Less than 10% survived being in Soviet work camps, when they were released and repatriated home in the early 1950's.
Rob
2024-02-07 02:35:24 +0000 UTC
I quite understand ... very real for me as my Grandfather died on active service during WW2, British Army Royal Signals July 1943, when my father was 7 . The world would now be a very different place without the sacrifices of these men, and you both deserve every credit for your willingness to learn of these dark times .. God Bless from across the pond !
Chris Rawson
2024-02-06 22:13:17 +0000 UTC
Ohhh okay, thank you very much! We had no idea that's how it would work.
Haylo
2024-02-06 20:20:45 +0000 UTC
It feels inappropriate to heart some of these comments, but we want to say thank you for the information/history none the less. Appreciate reading through all of these!
Haylo
2024-02-06 20:19:35 +0000 UTC
no need to watch the pacific a more brutal and meaningless war
diggs
2024-02-06 06:08:24 +0000 UTC
There's a great German movie, The Short Life of Sophie Scholl, abt her life & efforts w/ the German White Rose resistance group who tried to undermine Hitler & counter propaganda.
Mike
2024-02-06 03:45:28 +0000 UTC
Just my opinion but as hard as BoB's been I wouldn't jump into The Pacific right away. It's great but more brutal. If you do I'd wait awhile.
Mike
2024-02-06 03:42:07 +0000 UTC
Every German might not've know abt camps, but all knew the propaganda & saw their Jewish neighbors have to wear the star, & be All deported from their towns & cities & not return. At some point you had to consider or know they were in a bad place or killed.
Mike
2024-02-06 03:39:23 +0000 UTC
And the real horror of it all is that each and every one of them was a person. Just like us.
Winterson94
2024-02-06 03:25:13 +0000 UTC
Lipton was discharged, but that is sort of a strange army formality when an enlisted man is promoted to an officer. Technically Lipton should have been moved to another company because of this rule. However because of some "slow" paper work being done Lipton got to stay with Easy Company. Long story short the "Discharge" was as an enlisted man, he was then reinstated as an officer.
Zack Edwards
2024-02-06 02:00:53 +0000 UTC
To balance things, the photograph of the German Senior Officer that Nixon threw to the ground was of a regular Wermaht Officer, not an SS man. The black band around the frame signified that he'd died in the service of his Country, being a career soldier, and not necessarily a fanatical Nazi.
Chris Rawson
2024-02-06 00:21:35 +0000 UTC
Tom Hanks, in his only cameo appearance, was one of the French soldiers doing the shooting ...
Chris Rawson
2024-02-05 23:59:45 +0000 UTC
The German farm girl was very apprehensive when Lutz approached her for good reason, she was scared of Allied soldiers. By the end of the war, both Germen military and Civilians were fleeing west to surrender to either the British or Americans. The British and Americans prosecuted any soldier who committed rape to the full extent of military law, so there were just a few isolated examples of such offences. The Russian Military actually condoned these acts, as retribution for what the Germans had done earlier in the War. It was estimated that over 2 million German girls & women, aged between 8-80, were raped in the last 18 months of the war by Russian troops ..
Chris Rawson
2024-02-05 23:54:09 +0000 UTC
I too, like many others, including yourselves, love the opening theme song and find it so moving every time! I did some research and found that the theme song was written by Michael Kamen. He won three Grammy Awards, two Golden Globes and an Emmy, and was twice nominated for Academy Awards - and not surprising given that he's worked with so many artists! The theme was later adapted into a song called Requiem for a Soldier with lyrics, of which you can find different versions of on Youtube.
Gareth Williams
2024-02-05 23:38:40 +0000 UTC
The German people knew. That's one myth that needs to end now. While the use of gas chambers may not have been as widely known, the mass execution squads deployed in Eastern Europe were widely known about both inside and outside of Germany. The systematic genocide was no secret, and the Allies knew fairly early in the war.
An effort was made to "sanitize" the Germans to a certain extent to allow for the re-militarization of West Germany for their support in the Cold War, so people were more than happy to pretend most Germans didn't know about the horrors of the Holocaust, the murder squads and death camps. But they all knew, and a great many Germans were active participants. The German regular army (the Wehrmacht) were active participants in these atrocities; it wasn't just the SS.
John Egan
2024-02-05 23:21:56 +0000 UTC
One of my favorite shots is when they show Randleman, squatting down near the fence, facing away, down at the ground, speechless. It's the damn Bull, the guy who barely flinched as a farmer pulled shrapnel out of his shoulder, and he's struck dumb by that camp. It's incredible storytelling. Brilliant.
Brent Garripee
2024-02-05 23:15:50 +0000 UTC
I was a combat medic in the Army and I remember watching this during training on how we deal with camps if we ever found them in a war zone. I visited Auschwitz and other camps during my time in Europe and I can't imagine being a medical personal during that time. Thank you for reacting to BoB, it's a amazing series and as time goes on these stories need to be told/preserved.
zimmyrhino
2024-02-05 20:27:20 +0000 UTC
The guys executed by the French soldiers in the beginning of the episode were meant to be SS, which were the worst of the worst. As a reminder we were fighting against a mobilized Germany, but not all Germans were Nazis but only Aryan Nazis could join the SS. which is why the baker was confused or scared when he was called a Nazi.
NomadCisco
2024-02-05 19:47:46 +0000 UTC
You reacted roughly the same as I did when I saw it for the first time. The question of "How can people treat other people this way" is something that comes to most of us, I believe. I've though a lot about the answer: Fear - When fear is so ingrained in your society that you dare not question any actions for fear of the same thing happening to you, it would be easy to dehumanize another group of people. Unfortunately has happened a lot i human history - which doesn't make it better...
Anders Thomsen
2024-02-05 19:44:48 +0000 UTC
This episode was powerful and moving. Hug each other, great reaction.
Art
2024-02-05 18:20:49 +0000 UTC
If it's not too late, and you haven't watched Ep10 yet, here's a little something that might clarify a lot of what's mentioned in that episode 10. I've watched a lot of BoB channels and this is something that's often unclear for reactors, because they don't really explain it at all in the episode. No spoilers, so don't be worried about reading.
Points were awarded according to the following formula (a soldier needed 85 to be discharged):
- One point for each month in service in the Army
- One additional point for each month in service overseas
- Five points for each campaign (See list below)
- Five points for a medal for merit or valor (like Bronze or Silver Stars for example, the medals awarded to some of the Easy company members who made the assault on Brecourt Manor in Episode 2)
- Five points for a purple heart (awarded to all soldiers who were wounded in action)
- Twelve points for each dependent child up to three dependent children
Campaigns:
Egypt-Libya ... 11 June 1942 - 13 February 1943
Air Offensive, Europe ... 4 July 1942 - 5 June 1944
Algeria-French Morocco ... 8 - 11 November 1942
Tunisia ... 17 November 1942 - 13 May 1943
Sicily ... 9 July - 17 August 1943
Naples-Foggia ... 9 September 1943 - 21 January 1944
Anzio ... 22 January - 24 May 1944
Rome-Arno ... 22 January - 9 September 1944
Normandy ... 6 June - 24 July 1944
Northern France ... 25 July - 14 September 1944
Southern France ... 15 August - 14 September 1944
North Apennines ... 10 September 1944 - 4 April 1945
Rhineland ... 15 September 1944 - 21 March 1945
Ardennes-Alsace ... 16 December 1944 - 25 January 1945
Central Europe ... 22 March - 11 May 1945
Po Valley ... 5 April - 8 May 1945
celilmandir
2024-02-05 17:48:23 +0000 UTC
Ditto to what Yash said. This is a very powerful and moving episode. Something everyone in the world should watch. Like it was said, it's one thing to read about it, then another level to watch a re-enactment of it, and then to be one of the people that actually saw it and experience it.
Give each other hugs, giving some virtual hugs. Definitely take some time for yourselves to recoup from this. I'm sure the community would be ok with that.
Soccerdmon
2024-02-05 16:11:35 +0000 UTC
The process of becoming an officer is Lipton had to be discharged as an enlisted man and then reinstated as an officer. It is a formality.
Rob
2024-02-05 16:05:22 +0000 UTC
"If some people people didn't notice in the episode, Liebgott, the translater, has a much more difficult journey this episode and breaks down because he's Jewish." -- just so folks know, Liebgott in real life was not Jewish, but it was important to have a Jewish character in Easy Company so that someone who we were directly emotionally attached to was most affected by the immediate personal horror. Just warning in advance that some commenters may bring this up to talk about how the show "lies" to you about Jewish people and what happened to them in WWII. At this moment in history, I ask everyone to be thoughtful and kind in the comments. (Slim chance, but we can always hope.)
Charity Konusser (the chonus)
2024-02-05 15:43:16 +0000 UTC
One of the most important episodes of television I've ever seen, they never held back showing the sheer cruelty done to the people in the camps and the emotional toll it took on the soldiers who witnessed their finding and also the horrible decision they had to make in putting them back in to keep them safe. Powerful stuff, great reaction from you two. Sincere, mature and understanding of what you were witnessing
Baker
2024-02-05 15:36:01 +0000 UTC
“If anyone ever tells you the Holocaust didn't happen, or that it wasn't as bad as they say, no, it was worse than they say. What we saw, what these Germans did, it was worse than you can possibly imagine.”
― A letter from Babe Heffron to his family back home
This episode is emotional, but so important. As for some info from the episode, this will be a longe comment because of the nature of this episode:
- This episode was filmed to be as realistc as possible. The victims in this episode really looked like that, as they were played by terminally ill cancer patients, who despite being so sick, volunteered for this role because they believed it was important to tell this story right. The cast of Easy company were also kept away from the camp and the victims before filming, so their reactions you see in the episode are genuine and authentic.
- If some people people didn't notice in the episode, Liebgott, the translater, has a much more difficult journey this episode and breaks down because he's Jewish. Also, the two soldiers you see manning the checkpoint whom Peconte and O'Keefe take over for are the two replacements who were friends with with James McAvoy's character in episode 4.
- The concentration camp surivor who salutes Peconte likely recognized him as an American soldier. There were many older male victims of the holocaust who fought for Germany against the Americans in WWI, and they were still sent to the camps despite their service to Germany simply because they were Jewish.
- When the Germans claimed to have no knowledge of the camp, that's not exactly true. Most of the victims were citizens of these towns, and they were abudcted in mass in broad daylight, which is hard to miss. The knowledge that "camps" existed was mostly an open secret. The german towns, such as in this episode, also beneffited from the labour of these camps, and some citizens such as construction workers helped build and maintain these camps, while bakers and cooks/bakers went there to feed the guards. Many (but not all) Germans didn't talk out against them a lot because they either approved of the nazi views, beneffited from the free labour, or were afraid to. But there were also heroic Germans, like Schindler, who risked their lives and safety to help victims of these camps as well.
- The martial law scene where the citizens have to bury bodies was also common. General Eisenhower said, "Get it all on record now - get the films - get the witnesses - because somewhere down the track of history some bastard will get up and say that this never happened." Because of this, it was common to have german citizens visit the camps asap after liberation, and to capture this on film. There are real black and white 1st hand documentaries, filmed by Americans, of german citizens visiting liberated concentration camps for the first time. You can openly see germans weeping and fainting at the sights and smells of these camps as American soldiers give them forced tours. These documentary films were also shown in theaters across the world to showcase the Nazi horrors. There are also many letters from American soldiers who liberated these camps online.
- When Nixon sees the lady in red again at the end, it's a striking scene because when he first meets her at her house, she is essentially looking down on him and judging him, but by the end he is literally and figuratively looking down on and judging her. Also, as the wife of a high ranking military officer, there is a good chance she did know what was going on at these camps.
- While the specific liberation shown in this episode didn't exactly happen, its based on how most liberations did. Most soldiers really didn't know about these camps at first. There were some intelligence reports coming from the Eastern front about such camps, but they were mostly dismissed initially, for reasons such as Allied leadership thinking they were exaggerated. It wasn't until the first western camps were found that this was taken seriously, but the lower ranks didn't know until later, unless they themselves liberated a camp. It's why Eisenhower said that quote above when he toured a camp with other Allied generals, to make sure that EVERYONE knew and never forgot about how these camps existed. Sidenote, there is one liberation that was different: the liberation of the Dachau Concentration camp. There, the American soldiers were so horrified at what they saw, they lined up and executed most of the Nazi guards being kept as prisoners of war, and allowed the Jewish prisoners to beat/kill the others. Rightfully so, none of the American soldiers were punished. Also, when Winters referenced a camp the Soviets liberated, he likely meant was Auschwitz, as that was liberated early 1945.
Yash
2024-02-05 15:11:35 +0000 UTC