Doctor Who 7x8 Reaction Early Access!
Added 2019-03-06 14:58:40 +0000 UTC"Cold War"
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You get a good guy mark for knowing that, such a shame he gets impaled :')
The Doctor
2019-03-11 16:13:15 +0000 UTCFun fact about that. The Omen also featured Second Doctor Patrick Troughton as Father Brennan š
Brian Barnes
2019-03-10 19:53:31 +0000 UTCI am going to try and give my theory on the sonic screwdriver. It works telepathically so it is capable of whatever the Doctor believes, it is kind of like Green Lanterns ring in that regard. The TARDIS specifically gave 11 this sonic, she would have known that he needed to do this with it. It is his connection to the TARDIS....so it is rift with TARDIS juice.
o
2019-03-07 23:25:21 +0000 UTCAt the end of the day, the answer to 'why this?' is 'because it's in the script.'
Bekah
2019-03-07 18:32:37 +0000 UTCAhh David Warner, I can't believe none of you realised he was the guy who was decapitated by a pane of glass in The Omen :')
The Doctor
2019-03-07 17:23:50 +0000 UTCNot just 50 years of history but many different writers as well, even within one season this episode had a different writer to the usual guy.
MrSkarred
2019-03-07 09:48:09 +0000 UTCI liked this episode more when I saw it the first time and didn't know the overarching story line for season 7. After knowing that, it just feels like filler.
Greg Schuster
2019-03-07 09:34:34 +0000 UTCWhen your show has 50ish years of history like Doctor Who (which never took itself too seriously) I feel like you have to accept that rules are made to be broken. You can file almost everything that doesn't match up under "the Doctor lies", it's timey-whimey, or time can be rewritten. Just accept it and enjoy!
Jeanette C
2019-03-07 04:18:59 +0000 UTCthere are just so many spoilers in this thread.
o
2019-03-07 02:34:16 +0000 UTCAnother Mark Gattis episode... It's probably just me but I've not cared for just about all the Doctor Who episodes that he's written. Though this one wasn't too bad I suppose.
MrSkarred
2019-03-06 23:05:31 +0000 UTCThere are many rules to Doctor Who, but most of them follow this rule: "If you stand in the way of a (hopefully) good story, please step aside."
Bernice Summerfield
2019-03-06 19:31:38 +0000 UTCNo sign of it for me either... Sadly it's my bedtime so at least I've got something to look forward to tomorrow! Damn time zones!
Dennis Orman
2019-03-06 19:05:54 +0000 UTCJust to make it clear, I rarely apply real world logic to Doctor Who and actually completely agree with you that it's ridiculous when people do. For example, a lot of people had a huge issue with Kill The Moon because it 'doesn't make sense for the moon to be an egg' but these same people are completely fine with flying daleks, regeneration and statues that move. However, even the most whimsical Sci-Fi show should have some rules (about the laws of time travel) and consistently stick to the rules they've already established for the sake of continuity.
Samara Jordan
2019-03-06 18:40:54 +0000 UTCThis! It drives me crazy when people try to apply logic from our reality to a Sci fi TV show with plot devices like regeneration and a sonic screwdriver that make it easy for the show to continue moving forward without being pedantic about rules.
Chon
2019-03-06 18:27:22 +0000 UTCI completely agree and I usually don't really care about plot holes or continuity errors, however, they mentioned the Angels Take Manhattan which is the only episode that I think really complicates things. I love Listen and none of what I have said takes away from it being a great episode but it doesn't change the fact that it massively contradicts the Angels Take Manhattan.
Samara Jordan
2019-03-06 18:17:24 +0000 UTCErm... Spoilers!
Andrew W
2019-03-06 18:12:28 +0000 UTCHeres the thing, none of that matters whatsoever. Obsessing over rules in TV shows is so utterly pointless. The writer only has an obligation to write what works emotionally and thematically for each individual episode, not to obsess over canon and rules. Listen for example is one of the best reviewed episodes in the history of Doctor Who, and no one thinks that because it does or does not respect that canon.
Nick Earl
2019-03-06 18:10:27 +0000 UTCIs full length not up yet or is it just me having issues ?
El Bee
2019-03-06 17:18:50 +0000 UTCThe most meh ep of S7.
Opti_Frog
2019-03-06 16:38:09 +0000 UTCTobias Menzies always plays such a believable villain. Great actor.
Firefly24601
2019-03-06 16:32:37 +0000 UTCOnce both Amy and Rory's name appeared on the headstone their lives in the past became fixed so they had to die and be buried there. Once the Doctor reads the afterword written by Amy it becomes fixed that he can never visit them again because that's how the afterword is written. On top of that the paradox and the angels prevent him from going to 1938 New York. So he can't avert it by going right where they were sent, he can't pick them up later because they have to die in the past, and he can't even visit because it's written that they won't see each other any more.
Dominic D
2019-03-06 16:03:10 +0000 UTCAh, trying to figure out the rules of Doctor Who. In my experience, it's become a bit of a fruitless exercise, so I just sit back and enjoy the stories, rather than try to analyze the mechanics too much, they ignore their rules too often. I completely forgot that both Davos and Edmure were in this episode, so a nice surprise, haha.
FaultyHammock
2019-03-06 15:56:10 +0000 UTCEric was right about 'The Angels Take Manhattan'. In that episode, it is suggested that once you know an event in your future that event becomes a fixed point in time. As soon as Rory saw himself die as an old man in 1930s Manhattan his death there became fixed, which is why he was able to create a paradox when he jumped off the roof with Amy (because he died at the wrong point in time). Luckily, the paradox corrected itself (which can happen apparently) but, unfortunately, when he read his name on the grave stone his death in 1930s Manhattan became a fixed point in time again. The reason why the TARDIS couldn't go back to that time period and get Rory back was because they would be rewriting another fixed point in time which would cause another paradox and "tear New York apart". This rule creates a lot of problems for future episodes, most notably in 'Listen' when Clara meets her future great-grandson, Orson Pink. Technically, by the logic applied in 'The Angels Take Manhattan', Orson Pink's existence (and occupation as a time traveller) should have become a fixed point in time... But, we all know that doesn't happen.
Samara Jordan
2019-03-06 15:47:30 +0000 UTC
