"What is dead, may never die!"
Added 2017-10-20 18:34:20 +0000 UTC"But rises again, harder and stronger!"
Welcome back everyone!
The events of the past 2 days have shaken the adult developer community here on Patreon.
To those who were unaware of the situation, I'll try to sum things up.
About 40 hours ago I've received some messages from you guys that other developers are getting suspended. My page followed soon after.
Patreon sent me an e-mail, along with the suspension, in which they told me that some of the publicly facing aspects of my page are not in line with their Community Guidelines, and they are happy to help to make it suitable again, offering guidance as they put it.
They did not mention anything about my game, nor did they seem interested in it, or any paid / Patron only content.
They did not ask me to change anything in the game itself, or in Patron only posts.
What they are concerned about is the publicly visible things.
In their community guidelines they specify a few topics, which has become known in the adult game dev community as the infamous 'Big 5.'
Those include, [loli, beastiality, necrophilia, rape and incest]
Now, incest is a borderline category. They mention Game of Thrones, which has incest in it, as being okay. So the content of the game is not affected, as long as it is Patreon only.
They asked me to remove the free version of my game from Patreon, as it contains incest, and potential non-consensual elements. (seems like mind control is not a good thing in their books)
I changed the things they asked for, and now the page is back up.
Getting a free version out somehow is in the works. I have to know more before I proceed with that.
What about the future?
Now, the most important thing is that the page is up and running again.
My priority is to bring you guys the content you are here for.
There are a lot of questions that are left unanswered. What is okay, what is not? What can I link to, to provide a demo/free version to people, among others.
I will ask Patreon these questions, and many more, as we adult game developers deserve to know what is allowed and what isn't, not just guess based on the community guidelines adult sections, which is shorter than this post.
Until I get my questions answered, I'm going to tread carefully with anything public. The Patron only content is going to remain the same.
In the meantime, I already thought of backup plans. Plans that will lead to great things. Once Episode 8 is out I can dedicate time to do these things.
Speaking of Episode 8.
The last 2 days was a total nightmare (pun not intended), and I imagine I'll have a lot of things to do still. I've been helping out the other adult devs, so they won't get hit like many of us did, and I'll continue to do so.
With that, Episode 8 development has suffered a bit of a setback.
Now, I had 2 options. Delay the game to early next month, or try to finish on time by cutting some content.
I decided to go make a 3rd option, and release the game this month, but delay the early access release 2 days to 29th, and the general release to 30th, and work day and night until release to be able to finish with all the content that was originally planned present in the game.
I apologize to the Elite tier patrons for this. And as an apology, I will work even more, and even harder next month, to be able to give those 2 days back to them, and release Episode 9 FIVE days earlier to them.
I think I'm right in thinking that most of you don't expect this from me. Your messages and support throughout this time was really helping out keeping everything together, and it felt great. But I feel like I owe you this.
Well, I made this post a little long, but I wanted to tell you guys the full story and let you know that this has only made Lewdlab and Dreams of Desire stronger!
So the new early acces release date is 29th, general release is 30th.
Thank you guys so much for your support, it really warmed my heart to see it!
- Dr Sin
Comments
ok thank u
2017-10-26 08:29:38 +0000 UTCevery new episode contains all previous ones. so get episode 7, it has all from 1 to 7 in it.
Lewdlab
2017-10-26 07:07:46 +0000 UTCi just want to know were do i download episodes 2 - 3 - 4 - 5 - 6 all i see is episode 7 and i played 1 already
2017-10-26 05:07:08 +0000 UTCHey there. You will always find them in release posts, like this: <a href="https://www.patreon.com/posts/episode-7-14613450">https://www.patreon.com/posts/episode-7-14613450</a>
Lewdlab
2017-10-25 08:04:05 +0000 UTCHey there, new patron. Where can i find all the episodes so far for download? Thanks
2017-10-25 02:59:17 +0000 UTCThat's amazing Dr. Sin, pure commitment. There's been so many "big" adult devs that cut out on releases and updates with months because they had a hurdle to get by, but the fact you're committing yourself this much, to be able to push the release out at the end of this month is just flat out amazing, thank you.
2017-10-23 12:01:05 +0000 UTCHad me worried a day or two there but good to see you back Dr. Sin
Aprilsun
2017-10-21 22:49:20 +0000 UTCThank you! I felt like it was a really fitting quote because of extra motivation this gave me to strive to get better and better.
Lewdlab
2017-10-21 10:27:16 +0000 UTCTruth! :)
Lewdlab
2017-10-21 10:24:19 +0000 UTCThank you! It is all thanks to the incredible support you guys are giving!
Lewdlab
2017-10-21 10:24:04 +0000 UTCWell, it's better be safe than sorry I guess! Once the smoke is cleared and we have definitive answers, we can get the pages in a state where it is acceptable to both parties.
Lewdlab
2017-10-21 10:22:58 +0000 UTCThank you! Enjoy your vacation Chaz! :)
Lewdlab
2017-10-21 10:20:36 +0000 UTCNext week's release is priority. After that is done, I'll immediately start working on a backup site, as a first step. If things go south, there will always be something to fall back on.
Lewdlab
2017-10-21 10:20:13 +0000 UTCThank you!
Lewdlab
2017-10-21 10:18:10 +0000 UTCThank you, and best wishes to you as well!
Lewdlab
2017-10-21 10:17:17 +0000 UTCYes. I mentioned that my only problem was the way they handled the situation. An email warning first would have been much appreciated.
Lewdlab
2017-10-21 10:16:42 +0000 UTCThank you, hope you won't run into any trouble.
Lewdlab
2017-10-21 10:15:28 +0000 UTCValar Dohaeris.
Lewdlab
2017-10-21 10:14:52 +0000 UTCThank you! Yes, the internet is gettin a rough treatment lately. But we'll persevere :)
Lewdlab
2017-10-21 10:14:24 +0000 UTCGod bless us all! :)
Lewdlab
2017-10-21 10:14:03 +0000 UTCHouse Greyjoy eh? I knew I liked you for a reason. (subtle hint about future game possibilities) Welcome back.
Deadbeat Daad
2017-10-21 01:45:52 +0000 UTCIN AN OPEN FIELD!!!
Risky Devil
2017-10-21 00:08:02 +0000 UTCWhat is dead may never die, we are Ironborn and one must pay the iron price.
DaSpaz
2017-10-21 00:04:09 +0000 UTCThis is why youβre one of the best devs π
Pu$$yB0$$
2017-10-20 21:42:02 +0000 UTChey, thanks for that update. as a creator ( with no where near your numbers ) I was also pretty worried with this. Reading thins make me think that I might have gone a bit overboard on my own purge ^^
Alx
2017-10-20 20:50:41 +0000 UTCWhat a pain in the ass! Well done for jumping through all the hoops and over the pitfalls they sent you. I'll re patroon once I'm back off vacation. π
2017-10-20 20:22:22 +0000 UTCGlad you're active again, but I'm sure this is far from over. Please begin some sort of back-up plan now for your game hosting going forward. We will follow you wherever you go, but you need a plan B. I firmly believe that Patreon is not done with their witch hunt, and the fact that they are hiring more people to work specifically with monitoring these types of activities going forward is certainly an indication of that.
uncejay
2017-10-20 20:04:03 +0000 UTCAlso glad you're back! "I will ask Patreon these questions, and many more, as we adult game developers deserve to know what is allowed and what isn't,.." Thanks from another dev for all these infos and you also got a new patron! Best wishes
Pandelo
2017-10-20 19:55:02 +0000 UTCThank you for the clarity. I'm glad patreon isn't as bad as youtube and they're willing to work with us
TurkVanGogh Gamez
2017-10-20 19:45:16 +0000 UTCGlad you're back, will be sharing with post with my patrons and changing my page.
PingPanda
2017-10-20 19:13:35 +0000 UTCValar Morghulis.
Mastro91
2017-10-20 19:08:44 +0000 UTCGod bless you Sin ;)
2017-10-20 18:58:20 +0000 UTCReally stupid that some people hunt for stuff to complain about...goid job man. I hope everything goes well and that you have little to no more interruptions.
2017-10-20 18:57:46 +0000 UTCGlad to hear things are somewhat back to normal. It would be a shame to loose such a good developer as you. I don't know what is going on but YouTube is going thru the same thing.
Eric
2017-10-20 18:54:01 +0000 UTC