MM27 - CATS!
Added 2024-10-02 11:00:17 +0000 UTC
Greeting boys and ghouls, summer is gone, and spooky season officially commences with the return of Ghoulvie Screamset Horror Movie Mindset!
On this episode Will Massacre and Hexxa Deni kick things off with two movies about the spookiest animal of them all: Cats.
First up in the The Black Cat (Ulmer, 1934) horror movie gods Bela Lugosi and Boris Karloff menace a wholesome American couple with their evil European sex perversion in an Art Deco fortress.
Then in Cat People (Tourneur, 1942) an ancient curse turns a nice Serbian woman’s repressed sexuality into a leopard… or does it?
In both these films ignorant Americans fall prey to the deep, occult evils of Europe and a past they think they’re free of. Also there are cats.
They’re writing the movies! They’re casting the cats!
Max Fennig
2025-10-30 20:17:33 +0000 UTC
“Get that cat out of here!” -Dr. Huffouuurrr
M Varnzo
2025-10-08 22:28:31 +0000 UTC
We live in one, after all
bruce
2024-11-09 14:41:02 +0000 UTC
There’s one on the Criterion Blu-ray of Cat People, Val Lewton: Man in the Shadows. Scorsese narrates but didn’t direct.
J.P. McD.
2024-10-20 18:21:32 +0000 UTC
I’m sure all the people who vacationed in gorgeous upstate NY mid-century were just dumb morons who didn’t know the pleasures, like Will does, of visiting somewhere with plenty of microbreweries where you can order charcuterie.
J.P. McD.
2024-10-20 18:16:50 +0000 UTC
"...you don't see a book on his sword" wrecked me
Vincent VanRiesen
2024-10-17 18:30:28 +0000 UTC
EERRRR ACKTHUALLY the town of Niagara Falls would have looked much better in the pre-war era before the majority of the historical downtown was demolished for highways and surface parking lots. I would have expected a journeyman numtot like Will to be well aware of this
etienne
2024-10-11 01:29:30 +0000 UTC
For Dr. Judd fans, he’s a reoccurring character in Val Lewton movies and shows up in the 7th victim
Fresh Dill
2024-10-08 15:52:30 +0000 UTC
just splurged and bought the "cat people" criterion blu-ray... gonna check movie madness here in portland to see if they carry "the black cat"
lot lizard larry
2024-10-08 01:15:10 +0000 UTC
You mentioned Schrader's remake of Cat People, and it got me craving a MM Schrader episode. Would love to hear you two talk about Light Sleeper or American Gigolo.
Dakotah
2024-10-07 18:51:30 +0000 UTC
Cat People 1982 way better. Nastassja Kinski’s bush is legendary.
JASON
2024-10-07 17:14:11 +0000 UTC
God dang ol’ pizza hairline man I tellyouwhat
I am become reply guy
2024-10-06 20:01:04 +0000 UTC
Thank you for introducing me to this movie, loved it.
thunderbolt 1000t
2024-10-06 14:29:58 +0000 UTC
Haven’t listened to the whole thing yet, but have you noticed that The Cat People is the set-up for Rocky Horror Picture Show?
Tony Millionaire
2024-10-04 09:44:33 +0000 UTC
I had the same reaction.
friendly fursona
2024-10-04 04:46:53 +0000 UTC
Nah…
https://youtu.be/7AqteQZ1W1g?si=Ijo0uZjlNRSqp3gR
Eater
2024-10-04 01:33:39 +0000 UTC
Loved to get a bit of Bauhaus
Alex
2024-10-04 01:18:54 +0000 UTC
Dude. Will: you gots to STFU sometimes. The Hesse cutting-off and talking-over is out of control now, especially in the Cat People section. It is literally maddening.
Corey Richter
2024-10-03 22:39:40 +0000 UTC
Man I feel so dumb, I saw this and thought it was over the movie Cats and had no interest. I didn’t realize it was the start of MM horror fest.
Louie Luke
2024-10-03 18:56:21 +0000 UTC
Not nearly enough mentions of Karloff’s hair. That alone would be a huge red flag for me.
Michelle
2024-10-03 18:00:49 +0000 UTC
Cats aren’t scary! Who are these guys trying to kid! Ghost, goblins and things that go bump in the night! Now that is some scary stuff!
Fernslinger
2024-10-03 15:40:29 +0000 UTC
Will has definitely mentioned this film before in an episode of Chapo: I think he described it as the most 'cocaine - recently divorced guy' film ever.
Savannakhet
2024-10-03 14:17:45 +0000 UTC
Another thread connecting the two films: Art Deco was heavily influenced by Egyptian Revival following the excavation of Tutankhamun's tomb in the early '20s.
Also great to see a return of the sword-cane, weapon of choice for Dr. Pennyfarthing/Quackenbush.
demonsweat
2024-10-03 14:09:37 +0000 UTC
I wonder if Will Massacre is related to Hugh Massacre
Whucko Jaang
2024-10-03 09:32:12 +0000 UTC
Anyone see the 1982 remake of Cat People? It’s got John Larroquette, Ed Begley Jr, Malcolm McDowell and others in it lol. I found a free stream of it and will post my thoughts about it under this comment in case anyone is interested in more cat film binging.
Doom Hermit
2024-10-03 03:47:25 +0000 UTC
It's so good to hear this theme music again 😎🎃
Tim O'
2024-10-03 00:01:16 +0000 UTC
I spent the whole ep saying "When are they going to get to the Bowie song???"
Greasy_Jones
2024-10-02 23:12:30 +0000 UTC
A sci fi film by Ulmer is "The Man from Planet X". The alien to me looks very much like Gabor Mate'.
Michael Polacheck
2024-10-02 23:08:50 +0000 UTC
ok i get why you didn’t but i was expecting this to be about the movie-musical CATS (2019) and was mildly disappointed 💀
Emily Robbins
2024-10-02 23:06:47 +0000 UTC
WHAT DID HE KNOW AND WHEN DID HE KNOW IT
Rohmer Simpson
2024-10-02 21:33:22 +0000 UTC
The actress who plays the lady at the restaurant who greets Irena was dubbed by Simone Simon.
Tom Conway (Dr. Judd) was born Tom Sanders, and his brother was George Sanders (ALL ABOUT EVE). He plays a character named Dr. Louis Judd in Lewton's amazing THE SEVENTH VICTIM, although there's no real reason to believe they're the same person. He's also one of the leads in I WALKED WITH A ZOMBIE, maybe the best thing Lewton - and Tourneur - ever made.
Not-very-prolific but underrated writer-director Albert Lewin (THE PICTURE OF DORIAN GRAY, PANDORA AND THE FLYING DUTCHMAN) made only one movie in CinemaScope, THE LIVING IDOL (1957), and it was his last. It's not some kind of lost masterpiece but it's kind of a stealth remake of CAT PEOPLE, with a haunted idol standing in for a panther at the Central Park Zoo.
Rohmer Simpson
2024-10-02 21:32:23 +0000 UTC
Both of these movies I see pop on streaming sites and I've always skipped them. Cant wait to watch them now.
Jesse Spacco
2024-10-02 19:20:37 +0000 UTC
Two of my all time favorites from this period. Watched The Black Cat last year with a group Of people who had never seen it before and assumed it would just be silly. Really enjoyed their total silence during the climax.
Josh Link
2024-10-02 18:04:40 +0000 UTC
righteous chad Ghoulvie Screamset vs. wretched virgin Horror Movie Mindset
warren buffett squishmallow
2024-10-02 17:44:53 +0000 UTC
Movie Mindset is sick, love this
Peen Israel
2024-10-02 17:34:57 +0000 UTC
Ghoul V. Screamset
G
2024-10-02 17:20:33 +0000 UTC
Has anyone else seen the Scorsese documentary where he talks about Cat People? I don’t remember the name of it but it’s all about Marty comparing directors of the time to smugglers.
Dark Belden
2024-10-02 17:08:26 +0000 UTC
Hate to mess up your social plans but they’re both available for digital rental on various platforms
J.P. McD.
2024-10-02 17:02:38 +0000 UTC
You said it’s gonna get real gross this year so I hope we all get the deep dive into Society (1989) that we deserve
MCL
2024-10-02 16:51:58 +0000 UTC
ulmers set design for fritz land and fw murnau going unmentioned is a crime against movie mindset tbh but happy about the pics for this ep 👍
Alexander Fuchs
2024-10-02 16:39:14 +0000 UTC
bottom of the "BUY MATT'S BOOK + OTHER ANNOUNCEMENTS" post
Thomas
2024-10-02 16:30:50 +0000 UTC
Lobbying for recognition of OG Pet Sematery as technically a cat movie 🐈⬛
Matthew
2024-10-02 16:27:55 +0000 UTC
Is there a schedule for spooky season? I can't seem to find what's coming up next
Johnny
2024-10-02 16:04:07 +0000 UTC
When I 1st watched this and saw Irena get so upset and scared by the beautiful cat lady saying "moja sestra?" I just thought "this is awesomely gay."
Toshio42
2024-10-02 16:02:01 +0000 UTC
Bulgakovs cat Behemoth is my all time favorite fictional cat:
“I challenge you to a duel!” screamed the cat, sailing over their heads on the swinging chandelier.”
T
2024-10-02 15:44:50 +0000 UTC
Yoo, Ima Jedi-Mind-Turn-Yer-Brain-Off RN!
ploob
2024-10-02 15:18:40 +0000 UTC
Gay.
⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Nick
2024-10-02 14:43:45 +0000 UTC
Whoever borrowed these two non-streaming movies from my local ibrary; let’s hang irl, I need more friends
Movie Donkey
2024-10-02 14:18:16 +0000 UTC
i was so excited for 10 seconds thinking you were gonna talk abt cats (2019) but this is great too
Bo
2024-10-02 14:12:58 +0000 UTC
Yes!!!
Anders Olsson
2024-10-02 14:03:10 +0000 UTC
That guy who always used to complain about Will's voice fading in and out has cursed me, I can't un-notice it now and I'm going insane
CK LOUIE, de comedian
2024-10-02 13:58:29 +0000 UTC
Give it up for Robert Siodmak, he had the pronunciation of his last name on the back of his director’s chair
Rohmer Simpson
2024-10-02 13:38:03 +0000 UTC
Is that the OCP logo? Y’all should get to redevelop Detroit
MCL
2024-10-02 13:29:19 +0000 UTC
Two of my absolute favorites!!
Akira Honda
2024-10-02 13:28:36 +0000 UTC
I noticed that the original pairing was with Curse of the Cat People. I watched it yesterday. Not as good as Cat People but an interesting missing link become traditional horror and Night of the Hunter.
Leland Alvarado
2024-10-02 13:27:49 +0000 UTC
Could have actually watched CATS
MATT TRIANO
2024-10-02 13:22:09 +0000 UTC
First
Don Tickles
2024-10-02 13:17:11 +0000 UTC
Both such great movies. Love that they’re doing older films. I hope next year they do island of lost souls or Karloffs The Body Snatcher
lake
2024-10-02 13:13:14 +0000 UTC
Hello, period.
ploob
2024-10-02 13:06:31 +0000 UTC
Thought we meant the Fulci/Argento Black Cat and was a bit confused at first lol
Dustin Nelson
2024-10-02 13:03:51 +0000 UTC
Calling it anything but ghoulvie screamset is sacrilege
lake
2024-10-02 12:56:47 +0000 UTC
Another great horror featuring a cat, the Mexican classic: "Más Negro que la Noche"
Brant
2024-10-02 12:44:51 +0000 UTC
i live for movie mindset
danny
2024-10-02 12:40:21 +0000 UTC
Will Massacre is a great hardcore band name.
Yairo Martis
2024-10-02 12:36:27 +0000 UTC
Random q. This was one of the few I didn't watch along with last year, and I want to catch up now. Do you think I need to watch Halloween 2 first? (Obviously I've seen this original)
Drew
2024-10-02 12:34:10 +0000 UTC
LETS GO
Drew
2024-10-02 12:33:12 +0000 UTC
WE BACK!! My second daughter was born around the same time as Matt/Amber’s. The other day my wife said, ‘it seems like just yesterday we were in the hospital watching Halloween 3: season of the witch’
Cullen S
2024-10-02 12:22:10 +0000 UTC
Seeing this drop just as I arrived at work has changed the trajectory of my whole damn day!
Erik Amundsen
2024-10-02 12:20:37 +0000 UTC
It's funny because I've never seen these but listening you can easily remember a show that spoofed on any one of these tropes
Doug Cartel
2024-10-02 12:17:12 +0000 UTC
A movie about Americans’ ignorance of European history and a podcast about two Americans who can’t be bothered to figure out how Tourneur is pronounced
Wes
2024-10-02 12:13:31 +0000 UTC
Speaking of sanity points can we pleeeeease get more DnD eps? 🙏🙏🙏 We need dr quackenbush to return
Blank
2024-10-02 12:11:48 +0000 UTC
Gee whillikers! That's a lot of people for one grave!
Doug Cartel
2024-10-02 12:10:33 +0000 UTC
betrayed by the podcast elite who wish to hide the truth of Cats
Roy McGovernor
2024-10-02 12:10:25 +0000 UTC
WTF I thought y’all were doing Cats: The Movie ft Taylor Swift and other People
Roy McGovernor
2024-10-02 12:09:56 +0000 UTC
Cat people cat people.
Rohmer Simpson
2024-10-02 11:53:21 +0000 UTC
What a fine morning it is
John Frasca
2024-10-02 11:50:40 +0000 UTC
I was having a rough week and feeling pretty down…nothing to perk me up like Will and Hesse guffawing over bela Lugosi 💗💗
Blank
2024-10-02 11:46:01 +0000 UTC
I wish summer was gone. But it's over 100 in the east bay area still....
Bo Galindo
2024-10-02 11:38:37 +0000 UTC
yayyyyyy cats
nat
2024-10-02 11:31:36 +0000 UTC
Don’t listen to any of that noise. Be right here. Join us.
Hardcore Virgin
2024-10-02 11:28:24 +0000 UTC
or late as hell :)
Shivvy
2024-10-02 11:24:04 +0000 UTC
hanging w my gatita listening to this 🐈⬛😍😻
Shivvy
2024-10-02 11:23:50 +0000 UTC
The horror season is always the best MM eps
Flesh Colored Subaru
2024-10-02 11:22:57 +0000 UTC
Being up bright and early is a part of the true movie mindset
Matt James Rich
2024-10-02 11:17:38 +0000 UTC
Thank you, Mr Menaker, sir. We are grateful for these delicious content morsels. We appreciate you and all the work you do.
Mr Tu Damn Quoque
2024-10-02 11:14:36 +0000 UTC
Putting out fire ... with Chapoliiiiiiine
Michael S. Judge
2024-10-02 11:12:09 +0000 UTC
God dammit that what I expected and wanted when I saw this ep
John
2024-10-02 11:09:02 +0000 UTC
Movie mindset sir!!
Nolan
2024-10-02 11:08:31 +0000 UTC
Whew! For a second I thought this was on the 2019 movie… although
Brent
2024-10-02 11:06:20 +0000 UTC
Ready to enter the Screamset again
Dec
2024-10-02 11:05:44 +0000 UTC