Death Note 1x12
Added 2024-09-13 12:06:00 +0000 UTC
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It had to be the second kira because if the first was going to take that frankly terrible approach he wouldve taken it already its been over a half a year with the first kira. Why hadnt he done that til just now? And why is it so different. And why not use criminals in prison. Rayes kill was a child diddler not a spokeperson on tv when kira proved himself to raye i mean. The show shows how light proves himself. Its different than this new kira. Also new kira has a new b power
Narwhalz123
2024-09-20 12:31:53 +0000 UTCI look forward to your future reactions and am very interested to see what you think. <3
Narwhalz123
2024-09-20 12:29:27 +0000 UTCThen analyze the small details and interactions the same. You cant scrutinize the writing of a character before you meet them. (Misa amane) and for Naomi there are people in the real world that are as smart and as cautious at her and they fall victim toxic people everyday at least once if not multiple times its called being manipulated by a monster. This show has one plot device and its the notebook. I watched aot... all of it... every episode you reacted too. I can tell there is a difference it just seems to me that you dont like this show as much. Because youre not an idiot and youre not picking up on almost any small details. Then you call bad writing which is fine you can have your opinion. But naomi. If they didnt need her they wouldnt have written her. She wasnt placed there to die. She highlights lights weaknesses with her caution. Its very easy to see especially if youre the guy who predicted aot plots (which are complicated af) but cant pick up on why Naomi was so significant. 2 episodes out of 37 were spent with her and light taking a walk. I dont see how you dont see the significance. Wasnt it like a million dollars an episode? You think they spent 2 mil wasting time on a throw away character who was said to be smart and shown to be dumb? She solved the kira case by herself. She beat L? Maybe she just trusted light and had a dream and intelligence wasnt a factor you were so good at seeing and predicting based on human desire before. And was always lenient when characters had faults like eren and mikasa. Naomi is very intelligent. Her husband died she has a moment of weakness when she was on the cusp of solving the case and unfortunately meets the same fate. Shes one of my favorite characters. Im just begging that you pay closer attention like youve already done in the past. This show isnt getting the same analysis as aot? You understand titans so quickly but cant understand these basic human feelings impulses and character traits. Please give this masterpiece its due. And i do love your content btw. Your reaction to aot was a masterpiece of its own. (I will restate if you think this show has plot holes you really need to rewatch it.)
Narwhalz123
2024-09-20 12:24:03 +0000 UTCI actually agree to the point that both were presented (in my opinion and I still stand by that) as characters of capable intelligence (which made sense considering this is a crime chess game show). But once they interact with Light, they become weirtdly dumbed down and emotinal so he can (I assume only with Misa) manipulate them as he is the "emotional manipulator". It is really weird to me to "always" have new interesting characters only to realize they are there for Light to play with and get some upper hand above L (who in my opinions is just running circles around him currently and only the plot keeps Light from being at least revealed to be kira). But the fandom seems really torn, judging by the comments and if one does not expect a "chess game crime series" solely, it probably works a lot better. but I do expect that as that is how this was sold, so well... :D
M U
2024-09-20 09:51:11 +0000 UTCAh, I see, that makes sense. =)
M U
2024-09-20 09:47:46 +0000 UTCI am doing that. If you do not like my criticism (which might not be valid, I am not unfailable), that is okay. But I will give you my thoughts without bullshitting. So if I am an idiot, that is what you get. I love huge parts of the show, but there are definite faults in the writing on small levels (which were not there in aot to this extent). For example, other than Light, L and Lights father, characters are sometimes inconsitent for what feels plot reasons. I get that it was serialized, so it happens. But I call that out if I think it is a thing, same as I call out stuf fin bleach even though I love it to death. I can love things with faults. But I will not fall over heads over heel with praise for stuff that woul dbe disingenious.
M U
2024-09-20 09:43:51 +0000 UTCWeird, I still do not know why it has to be a second kira. Like, he went from murderers to bag snatchers and there was no second kira assumption, but from bag snatchers to innocents ther suddenly was? Still seems like "they guess correctly for the plot". I don't really mind, it just really confused me.
M U
2024-09-20 09:41:14 +0000 UTCIn my opinion this show is actually quite misogynistic in its writing of Misa, Naomi and other female characters; it will present the idea of them having intelligence, but as soon as it comes time for us to meet them they are written as dumb, overly emotional, like a complete joke and instantly exploitable by Light and L in a way that makes me slightly uncomfortable. It's understandable that nobody can really compete with those two minds, but to me it's done quite distastefully.
Merry
2024-09-17 14:09:43 +0000 UTCThere was no planning she had a basic idea of kiras goal and made a video supporting his "ideals" it was not well put together the criminals she killed only voiced their opinions against him unlike light who yes kills people like that when they try to catch him only. L sees it and thinks kira is stupid. She is a kira fan girl with an audio recording device. There is no plan. She said let me kill L or the head of npa. If not people will die. Where is the master plan even comparable to lights potato chip moment, his door handle moment, his hiding the deathnote moment, his feat of manipulating two highly intelligent fbi agents. Misa made one video. Thats all
Narwhalz123
2024-09-17 12:29:38 +0000 UTCCompared to aot, he seems disingenuous. He scrutinized over every detail called it masterful, then he refuses to understand this show and give it its credit. I understood this show much better than he is when i first watched it as a 12 year old boy. Its a little distasteful idk if he doesnt like it as much or what. But he needs to give it its due. Ive never subscribed to a patreon before, but this reaction series is hurting my soul. I has such high hopes.
Narwhalz123
2024-09-17 12:24:59 +0000 UTCWow, I feel you're hitting really hard on justification button this episode. First you went hard on how the TV message was from Light, and when you were proven wrong, you went double hard on trying to prove that Second Kira's modus operandi is exactly the same. But it's really not, I remember distinctly my own WTF reaction when I first watched the Death Note, because the message was so counter to Light's self-confidence and feeling of superiority. Light believes he doesn't *need* to stoop to that level, that he's The Justice itself. He attacks those who attack him, but he never went after those who criticized him - they were not worth his attention.
Eleyvie
2024-09-17 08:59:48 +0000 UTCYou have to remember this is also his first time watching. He will misunderstand things, and will forget things like all humans do. There’s no need for the hostility man!🫶🏻
Markus
2024-09-17 02:19:40 +0000 UTCThe term your looking for with argument of the masses is "Appeal to Popularity (Ad Populum) " also key thing about the "innocent " thing. the purse snatcher was still a "criminal" I think that is the issue. The police officers were not trying to catch Kira in that situation nor did they commit a crime. unlike the purse stancher.
kinky28
2024-09-15 09:26:26 +0000 UTCWhy cant a good character be naive? You didnt have a problem with it with conny? Or sasha? Or jean?
Narwhalz123
2024-09-15 04:09:23 +0000 UTCAnd for the love of god please stop saying coincidences. I dont understand why you trash this show so hard.
Narwhalz123
2024-09-15 04:08:13 +0000 UTCI watched you too til you switched from dub :( you got my hopes up (i like the cup tho)
Narwhalz123
2024-09-15 04:05:01 +0000 UTCAgain. Why would light die.. he doesnt have to follow shinigami rules. Thats so ridiculously silly...
Narwhalz123
2024-09-15 04:03:54 +0000 UTCWhen light kills people he kills them before their death date keep in mind the people light kills are murders terrorists... generally bad people like gangsters. Think of how many lives hes extended beyond their natural point. A shingami did it on purpose a shinigami broke the rules the shinigami get the punishment not the human. All the death note says is a human whose name is written in this note shall die and he probably added swings wildly missing his target then dies... so he couldn't harm her...
Narwhalz123
2024-09-15 04:00:43 +0000 UTCNo they will assume shes dumb because if she was smart she wouldve concealed the fact two kiras existed thats what kira prime wouldve wanted. If she was smart at all she wouldnt have done that. You talk about humanity but cant see the raw humanity trust and desperation in niamos story arc. Naomi almost solving the case with her info is a testament to her smarts not even L has consider kira can kill with means other than a heart attack yet... naomi is smart was shown smart and written like a normal woman who lost her life who she gave up her career for. Misa was written like an idiot and she is an idiot... who granted can be somewhat clever sometimes rarely.
Narwhalz123
2024-09-15 03:46:33 +0000 UTCThey didnt build misa up to be smart L calls her stupid... Light calls her a mockery and a liability... misa was not built up to be smart and made dumb she was smart and had so many reasons to trust light still exercised caustuon and the temptation to work along side L to bring her husbands murderer was too much she couldnt miss that opportunity light is a master manipulator. Even L thinks of Naomi fondly.
Narwhalz123
2024-09-15 03:38:55 +0000 UTCHe calls him weak minded because all things i mentioned before.... then him knowing in two seconds there was a second one.... please try to be less hyper critical of everything... and the dub puts this into language that makes a lot more sense and deathnote is one of the best dubs ever. And it makes more sense. So consider that some things may sound confusing and also this is one of the best anime and manga of all time because of its incredible writing, characters, and plot. That all comes together very well. Sometimes it takes a couple rewatches to get it all. Anyways love the vids <3
Narwhalz123
2024-09-15 03:32:56 +0000 UTCKira would never make a broadcast. Light is a god L knows kira thinks that Light knows L was testing him if L didnt know he wouldnt have tested him, once light knew that L knew he could pin point why. None of it was reaching its some of the best writing ever just slow down and think about all the details the show gives you. Theres so much for these things you call reaching. Remember that the purse snatcher and embezzler where killed using a potato chip bag. Remember no one has died without needing a name before. It all follows that this isnt the same thing as before. This second kira is a weak minded person and Light is on Ls level. If kira couldve always done that why wait so long? It only makes sense this a new second kira :)
Narwhalz123
2024-09-15 03:24:58 +0000 UTCThe difference between her and kira was solely the „no innocents“ and even threw off l for a.moment. That was high level planning stuff. Like, she was able to mimick kira really well in strategy and content, she could not have done that wirhout high intelligence
M U
2024-09-14 16:08:34 +0000 UTCI mean they were in the same place but there is no way they can know who eachother is so is it a coincidence even if they dont speak? Also I just need to understand your thoughts on why you think she was smart in the previous episode and did a 180? It seemed like a pretty reasonable way to get kiras attention and if that was her sole purpose then it makes complete sense, maybe she has a reason for idolising him. I dont agree that she just changed her behaviour its been pretty consistent in both these episodes for me.
daragh faro
2024-09-13 22:41:21 +0000 UTCJust as a tidbit of info, Misa is assumed to be of the age 19-24, given that she’s out of school and working full time as a model. And Light is 17. It can be easy to assume she’s much younger, so it’s kind of interesting she’s got a few years on Light.
Kevin
2024-09-13 20:04:39 +0000 UTCIf we didnt see them Interact then yes. But we saw how the shingami was speaking with her, telling her to be careful which is already a huge discrepancy from Ryuk.
daragh faro
2024-09-13 17:46:47 +0000 UTCwell if you have a few thousand years to live, cutting that in half on one hand means a much bigger loss of lifetime but o nthe other hand also means you'll sitll have a lot of life left
HAL
2024-09-13 16:48:18 +0000 UTC31:30 appearently not it only counts if its a shinigami and only if its his direct intention otherwise they'd cosntantly die, its prettmyuch impossible to change anything in the world without indirectly lengthening someone random persons life by a second or so and while his vigilantee punishments aren't justified light has killed a few criminals in active hostage situations, he's definitely saved a few lives in the beginning
HAL
2024-09-13 16:46:30 +0000 UTC23:57 well I mean thats been reinterpreted many times
HAL
2024-09-13 16:36:34 +0000 UTC9:10 they almost caught first kira despite him using magic using deduction and his reactions second kira literally sent a tape with likely fingerpritns or dna evidence on it thats an insanely dangerous move
HAL
2024-09-13 16:20:27 +0000 UTC2:25 if light is kira he will already know that there's a seocnd one because there's been a whole situation he didn't do hiding the fact that he instantly assumes there's a second one without overplaying it or coming off as stupid or obviosuly playing along is gonna be difficult again
HAL
2024-09-13 16:12:22 +0000 UTCshe completely falls into the same yandere trope that gradually emerged in anime, same as yuno and same as early mikasa though she subverts it in the end, kindof an interesting development though a lot of shows using it use it a lot more shallow
HAL
2024-09-13 16:09:27 +0000 UTC"please don't make her dumb now" well about that
HAL
2024-09-13 16:07:47 +0000 UTCto be fair, ryuk has always been sortof a neutral observer so its fair to assume the shinigami wouldn't help her strategize
HAL
2024-09-13 16:04:15 +0000 UTCHow could you deduce that she was smart because of the recordings. It's clear when we saw her interact with her shinigami that the death god was the smart one. Personally I didnt see anything smart about her recordings other than a childish impulse to get Kiras attention. There is not any building of character and breaking it here, she was from the start and maybe it will be more clear if you watch the recordings again. Maybe im speaking in hindsight or because I watched the show a few times but even during my first watch it really made sense.
daragh faro
2024-09-13 13:34:23 +0000 UTCI think you need to watch the recordings again, its kind of clear that they are not the same person. Imagine from L's perspective that he is almost certain Light is Kira and then compare the tone of manner second Kira spoke in and acted. She was sloppy and acted and talked way more off impulse and its still a fact that Kira did not kill anyone other than people after him or "evil people" up until then. The purse snatcher was in the potato chip scene where he didnt even see the crime and even L at the time was surprised and felt it was a stange move from Kira and even more suspicious of light as he was not watching tv at the time. All this together with the fact that they knew Kira needed a name to kill and then people die without needing a name it is the only reasonable conclusion he could come up with. Just my opinion of course.
daragh faro
2024-09-13 13:27:01 +0000 UTCI am watching it with a cup where Misa is printed 😁
puremetalcore
2024-09-13 13:07:41 +0000 UTC
