Answering your Comments #9
Added 2024-06-17 23:27:00 +0000 UTCBetter late than never!
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32:20 last time you didn't get quite caught up so you took a break halfway through
HAL
2024-06-18 16:47:44 +0000 UTCnot sure if ranking seasons makes sense cause aot is so un-episodic and connected that it doesn't make sense to look at any season out of context of hte other seasons though while it owuld be ab it of a cruel experiment I would be curious to see whath appens if you take osmeone who has never seen aot, has only ever vaguely heard of it and tell the mto just wathc season 4, everything before is filler, skip straight to the interesting part and with many tv series you can argue about that but at least here's a meaningful arguemtn that watching jsut one specific season makes sense with aot it kinda doesn't
HAL
2024-06-18 16:26:53 +0000 UTCFundamentally, as is already made clear in season 1 actually, Vinland Saga is an anti war story. Other themes are more important but that's definitely a huge one. Yukimura had an interview with gigguk where he said he only cares to write about three things: life, death, and love. His previous work, Planetes (which I also recommend) tackles these themes with a heavy scifi angle, but with VS he decided on talking about vikings. In his own words, never have people lacked love to such an extent as the vikings did. In terms of the prologue, establishing this theme was vitally important story wise. But you're also right, the plot usually serves as a way of facilitating character interactions. It'd generally a character focused story.
Erjon Sejdijaj
2024-06-18 11:44:48 +0000 UTCYes, the point of the slave analogy is that it is one thing in the core of a person they are after. So while freedom (however ill-defined by Eren) was a drive, it was not his "slavery". =)
M U
2024-06-18 09:59:43 +0000 UTCYeah, I think I have grappled with the political aspect a bit as well as I never had the feeling it was that important. For me, it was just the "setting" to show that people love fighting in the anime (really rough summary of course). The only really important politics to me actually were the ones in the last 6 episodes, where the politics impacted the characters a lot more directly. I also did not think that was really the "strength" of season 1. Like, it was done consistently and was quite intresting, but stuff like Thorfinn trying to survive in the woods, the Anne stuff or the people at the beach were the real strength I felt, but I also probably still have that AoT mindset currently that is like "author presents war, so present it realisitcally, please". I woul dcurrently rate Vinland at the level of Frieren, because though different topics, they felt really similar. :D
M U
2024-06-18 09:57:54 +0000 UTCMaybe even lyrics - now you know about Ymir
puremetalcore
2024-06-18 09:32:07 +0000 UTCPlease if you will stream rewatching AoT save it to YouTube π
puremetalcore
2024-06-18 09:07:47 +0000 UTCMichael Ende really mastered that kind of profound writing i love that. Isayama does the same stuff just not for the meta of youngun's. But with parents i think aot can be highly educational again just like "Shindlers List". So funny that you rely on "MΓ€rchenmond". I have just one author signed book and that is for some reason "MΓ€rchenmond" signed in a reading by Wolfgang Hohlbein in Muenster :D.
tris273
2024-06-18 01:42:26 +0000 UTCOh, and, btw, you can apply tags to your posts and put them into collections for people and yourself to find related posts easier! :)
Digit
2024-06-18 01:23:33 +0000 UTCIf Eren is a slave to freedom, it's hard to define what freedom he's after. He either very carefully chose the best possible personal outcome for his closest friends using his knowledge of paths or was just blind with rage and it somehow worked out.
Digit
2024-06-18 01:21:59 +0000 UTC60 pages already?! That's very impressive speed. Looking forward to checking out your writing. I also have a story I've been slowly thinking of since childhood, but I don't know if I'll ever do anything with it. It's very unconventional and takes place over multiple generations... lol.
Digit
2024-06-18 01:10:03 +0000 UTC"Eren is a slave to freedom" vs "Eren is a slave to hatred" I think these are both crossing axis on a chart. Eren is a slave to a utilitarian self righteousness towards the acquisition of freedom. He sees the freedom of those he cares about and himself as an absolute inviolable right. He narrowly defines that freedom as the absence of restraints. He gives himself permission to indulge in unimaginable hatred toward those that restrain him and those closest to him from freedom. What he says to Armin and the others in the paths "to obtain freedom I will take freedom from the world" is the distillation of Eren's selfish and self righteous form of fascism.
Anna Kyruin
2024-06-18 01:07:21 +0000 UTCI find it interesting you said you didn't think vinland saga s1 had much of a story, when personally I think the main conflict which was set up was almost GoT tier. It's a classic case of having a simple premise, here being the matter of who will be the successor to the throne, but each episode you get another layer to the conflict. First the matter of Thorkell wanting to get to king Sweyn via Canute, then the matter of Canute being seemingly rejected by his father, then you get Canute choosing to retaliate, then the matter of Wales becoming involved as a stray casualty, all while the general Denmark/England conflict is still ongoing, all of this coming to a head in the final banquet scene, and that's just scratching the surface. There's so much politics going on in the first season, to be able to keep track of it as an author is actually insane, nevermind that he laid it out so seamlessly that it all almost falls into the background. Vinland Saga is truthfully aot tier in how planned out the story was from beginning to end, it's just less in your face because there isn't really a central mystery for there to be clues laid out. But the central conflicts in each arc are all so comprehensively written, I can't imagine how much planning must have gone into all of it. Turned into kinda a rant at the end I realize lol, sorry. Vinland Saga is my favorite anime/manga by far lol, so I can quickly fall into a rant.
Erjon Sejdijaj
2024-06-18 00:17:15 +0000 UTCYup, season 1 is quite literally just Thorfinn's backstory. Yukimura even wanted to start on the S2 arc initially, but it was via the imput of his editor that he came to the decision to flesh out Thorfinn's backstory as an entire arc first. And the story became so much better for it, can't wait for some of the moments coming in season 2 (and season 3, should it come, which has moments which even top s2 for me). It's really a case of season 1 becoming so much better with the context of what happens in s2 in mind, they complement each other perfectly.
Erjon Sejdijaj
2024-06-18 00:04:46 +0000 UTCYou saying "I hope Thorfinn has more development in S2" - you are really going to love S2. Season 1 was, legitimately, the prologue of Vinland Saga. Season 2 is where the story starts with S1 as the catalyst.
FullHeart
2024-06-17 23:50:24 +0000 UTC
