I can't believe the amount of times I've watched this and never saw the parallel between Dark Willow's "bored now" here before killing Warren and Vampire Willow's "bored now" in Doppelgäng Land! What a throw back! I'm disappointed in myself tbh. Bravo.
Sarah_M
2025-01-24 08:29:22 +0000 UTC
Not to discount what you said but another reason IIRC was Amber Benson wanted to do other projects (part of why she was never in the opening credits, save for the episode she was killed (as a way to well honor her and joss always had a dream of killing off someone in the opening credits the first time they appeared in em)). But I think Amber wanted to move on.
And there was also the who “kill the gays” trope which I didn’t think it was either and I’m a gay guy. It honestly was a great way and realistic in the metaphors of the series to move to the end of the season. And these are some of my favorite episodes. Throw in behind the scenes the actress had other plans I have no problem whit that part.
Joseph Waldschmidt
2025-01-10 06:35:12 +0000 UTC
It’s definitely good for wrongly convicted individuals. It gives them time to go through the appeals process and try to prove their innocence. The downside is that it takes years and they’re often left in inhumane conditions.
Tyler Ward
2025-01-09 15:36:23 +0000 UTC
maybe that is good for some... Interesting, that Buffy doesn't consider ever messing with humans, but Willow almost used
magic on Oz after he cheated on her ... not sure what she wanted to do there, but it seemed like trying to harm him
Viera Galikova
2025-01-09 15:23:40 +0000 UTC
OMG!!! This is one of my favorite episodes too.
And I loved and enjoyed a lot all of your reactions and I totally agree with all your final comments. I don't know you are "evil" for support Willow in her revenge side. Warren deserved every second of pain and misery he had.
I think it was like I waited for this episode and your reactions to since the beginning of the season.
Can't wait for the next one!!!
Sofía Reyes
2025-01-09 13:36:50 +0000 UTC
There’s so much debate over the death penalty. Some people are all for it, some are completely against it. But the reality is that even when people are given the death penalty, they wait an average of 20 years on death row before they’re actually executed.
Tyler Ward
2025-01-09 12:56:34 +0000 UTC
i loved Sarah Z's analysis called "Why you should watch Buffy season 6".
Buffy has met horrible humans before, who did despicable things, quite similar to Warren but she never actually tried to kill them.
Warren as a character should have an end, it is fitting that he's gone much like the Master, or the Mayor (who was fun, but a horrendous human), or Adam or Glory.
but i just can't wrap my head around the idea of being an American and growing up in a society where death penalty is legal.
Such a mindf.ck.
Like, any of your friends and family could be legally executed.
Viera Galikova
2025-01-09 12:48:08 +0000 UTC
Love this season
JennaB
2025-01-09 07:37:01 +0000 UTC
I know a lot of people hated season 6, for a multitude of reasons. Some hated it because it was so dark. Some hated it because they didn’t like Willow’s storyline of being addicted to magic. Some didn’t like it because they felt it was full of lazy writing. In my opinion, season 6 is one of the greats. The greatest thing about BTVS is that, at its core, it takes real world horrors and turns them into supernatural metaphors. Willow’s addiction to magic is a pretty straightforward parallel to any other form of “human” addiction. But what makes this season so tragic is that Willow was finally able to find strength within herself (not within her addiction to magic) and then when Tara was taken from her, she relapsed… HARD. Tara was her anchor, the one person she would do literally anything for. She got “sober” FOR Tara. And what happens when your ONE reason, to be the best version of yourself, is suddenly ripped away from you…?
I mean, this is all pretty straightforward metaphorically speaking, but the show definitely raises an interesting conversation about the laws of the natural vs supernatural world.
On one hand, I wholeheartedly agree that Warren deserved to die. Though it would be too good for Warren, I would have no qualms if a vampire or some evil creature completely gutted Warren (no pun intended). But as the protagonist, I can understand Buffy’s perspective that killing humans is wrong… even when they hurt the people we love most. There are human laws for human crimes, and while the sad reality is that sometimes justice is not served, does that justify Willow’s quest for vengeance against another human being? Personally, I sided with Buffy when she said, “Being a slayer doesn’t give me a license to kill.” I think there’s so much truth in that statement. Furthermore, I also sided with Buffy when she said that she wouldn’t allow Willow to destroy herself in the process of destroying Warren. Warren is a small and pathetic waste of life. But Willow is so much more than that and, I believe, Tara wouldn’t have wanted Willow to “relapse” or succumb to dark magic for ANY reason. Once you taste vengeance… revenge… sometimes there’s no coming back from that. And how far do you let grief, anger, and pain take you? What is the cost and what are the potential consequences? It’s kinda like when Uncle Ben was killed in “Spider Man”. Sure, Peter got his revenge, but it didn’t ease any of the pain of losing his uncle. He’s still gone and so is Tara. And *if Willow does return to her “normal” self, not only will she have to grieve the loss of her soul-mate, but she’ll also have to grieve the innocence that she lost when she took another human life.
Anyway, that’s all I’ll say about this episode. I’m interested to see how your stance on the matter changes over the next two episodes, if it does at all. But either way, I think you’ll be satisfied with how the season ends! Buckle up!!!!!
Tyler Ward
2025-01-09 01:18:33 +0000 UTC
I found out recently, like the last few years and I’ve been a Buffy fan since early 2000s lol. It makes me look at this part of the season a little different lol
Teresa Jay
2025-01-08 22:40:46 +0000 UTC
i wonder what would have happened if Willow called the ambulance, if she looked outside the window, instead of trying to save Tara with magic.
it seems like Tara and Willow could have had many happy years together - but would they really, since Willow is capable of a relapse like this? What if this happened next time they have a fight with Tara?
This is the episode titled "Villains" because here we learn who are the real villains of season 6: Willow and the viewers.
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When you think about it, Buffy has faced some horrendous, terrible humans.
Buffy can easily kill humans with one hand.
She has met some humans, for example like
the watchers' council put her through hell and almost got her mom killed.
Ford betrayed innocent humans and put them in danger of death.
Faith kidnapped her mom, assaulted her friends, raped Riley.
The college dude named Parker tricked Buffy, dumped her and gaslighted her into apologizing.
Snyder treated her unfairly all the time.
The mayor was a human planning on becoming immortal and a demon.
Maybe Buffy has had a thought of killing some of those humans.
She definitely 'killed' the robot guy in rage,
assuming he's human, in season 1.
But she confessed to the police back then.
And she never actually went through actively working on killing anyone, not even the friggin' council guys.
Americans still have death penalty, unlike so many other countries, so weird to think of that.
I really like that Willow exposed the other crimes of Warren, his murder of Katrina and he revealed his own attitude towards his victim.
I also like that when Katrina's image talked, Warren was actually bothered by it.
It is a good point to bring up - some people are this heartless about people they've hurt, so I'm not mad that Warren's gone. But Willow being the one who killed him - i can't imagine how would i accept seeing my best friend doing that.
Yeah, bringing Tara back would be like Dawn trying to bring Joyce back.
interesting, that Willow did kinda lead Dawn to it back then.
The wizard guy helped Warren because he just wants money. Exactly like when he also gave Willow the extreme high fully aware that it is destroying her. He doesn't care.
Spike can hurt Buffy without the chip working. The chip is not stopping Spike from hurting or kiIIing Buffy.
Viera Galikova
2025-01-08 22:39:42 +0000 UTC
Wow I didn’t know that 👀
Julia
2025-01-08 22:36:29 +0000 UTC
Here we go!!!! 🔥 Dark Willow is here.
Tyler Ward
2025-01-08 21:55:29 +0000 UTC
Tara was actually empathetic towards Warren in season 5 when they found out he made the sexbot and he might be lonely.
Viera Galikova
2025-01-08 21:27:47 +0000 UTC
The crazy thing to me is that the actor who plays Warren actually dated Amber Benson.
Teresa Jay
2025-01-08 21:16:35 +0000 UTC
💔willow's "how is this natural" always shakes me to my core
The studio was drowning in letters from angry fans. But especially the queer fans brought up the "fridging" trope in fiction - the fact that Tara was only killed off to motivate a main chartacter, Willow, to some plot-related actions (much like Buffy was assaulted by Spike only to motivate his next actions, not as much for her own character development).
The response from the writers was that Tara was, unusually, not killed as a result of a hate-crime against her sexuality. She was just a victim of a senseless cruelty of some American with a gun who didn't even know about her. Realistic and somewhat equal to most real deaths, much like for example Joyce.
Spike doesn't need to take the chip out, he can hurt Buffy without the chip working.