Japanese Phonetics Episode 71—Updated with native recordings!
Added 2019-10-31 01:31:01 +0000 UTCBibliography
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Good morning Patrons! The seventy-first episode of Japanese Phonetics has been updated with native recordings! In this lesson, we explore the money counter, 円, in detail. We also look at a couple general rules, and this updated video also includes a phonetic shift that has happened in recent years with 千円.
As always, if you have any questions or concerns with regards to this lesson, please don't hesitate to leave a comment below. Thank you very much for your continued support, and good luck with your Japanese studies!
Best from Beppu,
Dōgen
Comments
No worries; my apologies for the confusing wording, and I'm glad you find the series useful!
Dogen
2022-03-03 09:35:12 +0000 UTCHi Dogen. One comment, regarding the 2nd major exceptions in the video. You said, that multiples of a 1 000 up to 10 000 and multiples of a 10 000 up to 100 000 combined with 円 are 平板. But later you bring the example of 17 000 and 53 000. But these two belong to neither of those two categories. They are neither the multiples of a 1 000 up to 10 000 and nor the multiples of a 10 000 up to 100 000. So the rule would be multiples of a 1 000 up to 100 000 or any clean thousand up to 100 000. Sorry for nitpicking, I just found it slightly confusing, but the 17k and 53k examples made it clear to me. I love the series and it is tremendously useful for me. Cheers!
Balint Laczko
2022-02-05 11:52:02 +0000 UTCGreat, glad to hear you resolved the issue!
Dogen
2020-04-30 22:55:17 +0000 UTCNever mind: I just recalled the rule from lesson 69 when the last mora is the "special sound" ん.
Walt Poor
2020-04-30 16:35:04 +0000 UTCMaybe it's just my laptop, but for 13円, your graphic at time 40 seconds seems to show the downstep on the first mora さ of さん, rather than on the ん. Wouldn't this make the number 13 中高 in the combination rather than 尾高 ? What am I misunderstanding here?
Walt Poor
2020-04-30 16:28:28 +0000 UTCThank you! My mistake, thanks for that.
Dogen
2020-03-13 23:30:36 +0000 UTCA very nice lesson as always! By the way, 10, 100, 1000, 10000, etc. aren't squares of 10 but actually powers of 10.
QsavrQuest
2020-03-13 23:25:34 +0000 UTCHi Stephen! Yes, due to the nature of the ん in this position it will assume some of the qualities of え, which makes it sound like that, as explained in an earlier lesson on the ん sound. Cheers!
Dogen
2019-12-23 02:40:43 +0000 UTCI noticed while listening to this that my ear is not catching the ん at the end of 万 in 万円 (well, more like my ear is hearing the え from 円 bleeding into it), so I'm hearing something more like 「まええん」 instead. If I focus hard I can sometimes barely distinguish it, though. I'm not sure what to do about that other than just being aware of it and trying to train my ear with more listening, but I wanted to mention it in case others were struggling with that as well. :)
Stephen Tigner
2019-12-22 22:04:51 +0000 UTCThanks for pointing this out imaginary, will try to fix this next time I’m at my computer! Good luck with the course!
Dogen
2019-11-12 01:50:34 +0000 UTCI'm quite new to learning Japanese, and have just started going through your Phonetics series, but I happened to notice that this video is not yet on the Japanese Phonetics Index Page. Thanks for making these, I hope I'll eventually make it up to watching this video!
Imaginary
2019-11-11 20:59:39 +0000 UTCThere are certainly a few!
Dogen
2019-11-10 23:21:10 +0000 UTCSo many of those!!! So confusing!
Axel Deroubaix
2019-11-10 09:53:17 +0000 UTCGreat idea Axel! Will definitely do this in the future!
Dogen
2019-11-10 09:48:56 +0000 UTCDogen sorry to bother but I was wondering if you ever thought of creating a video with the most common similar words with different pitch accent like 箸 橋 or 髪 神 上？
Axel Deroubaix
2019-11-10 09:44:39 +0000 UTCHi Axel! I would encourage you to watch a movie once, and then to rip the audio from that movie and listen to it during your commute. I used to do this while studying abroad and it helped immensely! Cheers!
Dogen
2019-11-01 05:16:34 +0000 UTCDogen, (unrelated to this episode) you recommend to watch a Japanese tv show on repeat to improve... I have no time to watch tv drama on repeat however I have time during my commute to listen to something. Any recommendation?
Axel Deroubaix
2019-11-01 00:24:26 +0000 UTC
