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Tangent: Satanism

Hi friends,

Wellbutrin dose increased, depressive episode mitigated, perfectionism abandoned entirely—I've technically finished this Tangent by the deadline!

Content warning: this episode discusses lavishly horrible (and entirely false) accounts of childhood abuse at the hands of Satanic cults. I've tried to make light of it, because what else can you do, but, fair warning, that is a lot of the subject matter.

Enjoy(?), and as always let me know what you think!

-Natalie

P.S. Here's the video link, in case embedding doesn't work: https://youtu.be/vzbtlnm0zUk?si=ESO0NnFSJbFFXxd3

Tangent: Satanism

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There are lots of other sects and spiritual groups that work with Satan each in their own way. Luciferianism (another theistic satanism that doesn't call itself Satanist). Satanic Delco (a group somewhere inbetween the church and the temple that has ideological problems and organizational drama with both but that works with Satan as a philosophical and archetypal figure). There's the complicated role of Satan in certain syncretic Central and South American spiritualities, some of which also have US practitioners. There's a small, mostly online section known as The Devil of the Bathhouse, based on a particular pagan's observation of a satanic altar in a gay bathhouse and a booklet he wrote based on it surrounding a consent-driven gay Satan who wants people to be free to embrace sexual liberation. The altar itself may or may not have been influenced by darker iterations of gay satanic fetishism, which are often associated with the use of vasodilators, chronic masturbation, and the intentional collection or spread of HIV strains -among other nonconsensual acts. These engage with Satan as a personification of taboo, although using satanic sexual blasphemy as an exciting pornographic taboo is certainly not limited to such morally heinous portrayals. In addition to all of that, some polytheistic or pantheistic pagans engage with Satan as a form of spirit or deity, often equating him with an iteration of the archetypal "horned god" of Wiccan fame (which wiccans themselves are always quick to clarify is NOT Satan), and attempting to draw (with limited accuracy) his folkloric lineage to older horned figures like Dionysos Zagreus, Pan, Cernnunos, or even the wild man Enkidu. Many pagans tend to have as personally convenient a view of spiritual history as many Christians do. Tl;Dr: there's a lot of celebration of Satan in modern day post-Christian spirituality, most of it very well meaning, and some of it not so much.

Jittery Zombie

Yeah that was a remarkably effective ritual

Rose Dombegh

Having just rewatched this, and being at the part where you, Mother Contrapoints, give us just a little satanic ritual as a treat, can I request that you conduct satanic rituals more often? The breakup of Trump x Musk *was indeed* "humiliatingly public and spectacularly entertaining." I think this was the most successful satanic ritual I've ever heard of. Whether in public or in private, please throw a few resentful, ironic, and presumably wholly insincere satanic rituals into your schedule on the off-chance that rationality is incorrect, everything you said about prayer and manifesting in the spiritually tangent eventually gets proven wrong, and it turns out that you alone are the one whose dark satanic rituals can restore democracy.

Frenemy of Dorothy

I am clicking into this months late but...I grew up in Victoria, BC, which is where "Michelle Remembers" is set and I have had a theory for a long time that goes unremarked in every analysis I have seen on this book and its effect. Victoria has a special history as a haven for American hippies who dodged the draft in the 60's by moving to the islands on the west coast of Canada, many of whom identified with alternative spiritualisties like "Wicca," and more specifically "Dianic Wicca," which is a second-wave feminist branch of Wicca. I was raised in this world by my mum. I believe that Michelle's memories are deeply influenced by the random influx of American hippy feminist witches to the city, spurring the satanic panic we know today. I can't help but laugh (and cry) at the idea that my Mum's stoner, second-wave feminist friend group as the inspiration for the broader Q Anon, Pizza-Gate and "Deep State" conspiracy theories.

Hannah Tolman

This is such a fantastic companion piece to your most recent main channel video

Felix

THE RITUAL WORKED!!!!!!

Carl Marks

The satanic ritual at 45:52 is finally coming true!!

Zeif

I recently found out my friend who DJs has made a Michelle Remembers track and thought I should share with this group hehe :) hope you enjoy https://open.spotify.com/track/0cqVmYJgJjtxCoRdC9ZZ1z?si=s9x7ZvhRT5eC2PIvMkLbtg

Kysonel

Thank you for this, Dark Queen.

Vanessa Nieto Thrower

Good on you Natalie for highlighting the massive malpractice of Lawrence Pazder. Most media blames Michelle entirely and casts her as a manipulator, and while I do think that is somewhat true, Pazder's behavior is often glossed over. Your mention of Catholic satanic panics made me kind of wish you'd mentioned the case of French priest Urbain Grandier of Loudon, whose horrific case was portrayed in Ken Russell's film "The Devils"; I know you can't discuss every incidence of satanic panic, but we'd be here for it if you did! Witch hunts and satanic panics are sociologically fascinating and distressingly relevant. Also, the bit at 42:46 - I nearly did a spit-take all over my computer! Thank you for that moment!

Lauren Shear

i like this one.

Anne Estipona

You did a great job with this

Ethan Gilligan


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