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Chapter 230 - On Immortality

There were a few moments where I got to feel smug at their surprise.

“You seized Immortality?” Serondes eventually asked.

“Seize immortality?” I asked, completely unfamiliar with the phrase.

“Attained it with a skill.” Aegion clarified.

“Seized is the better word.” Serondes muttered.

“Attained is accurate!”

“So is seized!”

Awarthril thumped both of them on the head, ending the argument.

“You two are as bad as each other! Knock it off!” She turned to me.

“Elaine! That’s wonderful!” She leaned in closer. “What’d you get as your curse?”

“Awarthril! I would never ask something like that!” Serondes waved his fork at her. “Her curse is intensely private, not to be shared with anyone she doesn’t utterly trust.”

“Oh, knock it off.” Aegion swatted at the air near Serondes. “From the sound of it, she grew up in an area with no Immortals, she doesn’t know any of the terminology, we need to help her out as much as we can.”

“I’m not cursed yet.” I told them.

“Awww, shucks. Sounds like it isn’t an Immortality skill then.” Awarthril cut a steak in half, shoved the entire thing in her mouth, and ate it in like three bites. That was a valid method of eating when she had a billion physical stats, but wow.

“Eh, I haven’t activated it yet. I was concerned about White Dove and getting cursed, since we don’t have a lot of immortals.”

Serondes and Awarthril each picked up something different from that statement, and started talking over each other.

Aegion took the chance to shove a mug of some sort of golden-colored liquid into my hands, raising his own in a universal “cheers” gesture. I instinctively took a sip, flavor and taste having a whole parade at how good it tasted. Why couldn’t everything he made be like this? I narrowed my eyes at him. Or was this some of the “old, good stash”, broken out on special occasions, and not one of his brews?

I was leaning towards “not one of his” until further evidence changed my mind.

Serondes won out, on the basis of having Sound skills.

“Hang on, you know almost nothing about Immortals, but you know about White Dove’s curse ahead of time? Most people who seize Immortality are taken by surprise.” He said, while Awarthril glared murder at him. To her credit, she gracefully backed down, letting me answer Serondes’s question - but from the look on her face, the way she was hunched forward on the table, not eating, said the moment I was done, she’d pounce with her own question.

“Oh, we’ve got some vampires hanging around where I live. I talked with a few of them, they told me how it worked for them.” I said, giving the short, short version.

“Vampires!” Aegion happily slapped the table with one free hand, slamming his mug down to the table. “We’ve got some records of them in the List of Immortals, but we thought they’d gone extinct! Good to hear they’re still alive and kicking. Be a shame to lose another Natural Immortal race.”

“Forget all that.” Awarthril said, still staring at me. “You said you haven’t activated it yet. Are you telling me that you’ve got an active Immortality skill, not a passive one?”

“Uh, yeah. It rewinds the clock on the body, or in other words, makes someone young again.”

That was my understanding of the skill, having built it myself, and from the description given.

The penny dropped for the other two elves.

“Hang on, can you use it on others?” Aegion asked.

I opened my mouth to answer, but Serondes interrupted.

“Elaine, listen to me. No, seriously, listen. I know I said keep your curse quiet, but more importantly, if you can use it on others, don’t tell anyone. Being able to make others Immortal is one of the most sought-after skills, period. Take Awarthril here. She’s bonded with Kiyaya,”

The two in question affectionately nuzzled each other.

“But Kiyaya has a limited lifespan. The bond’s extending it, but Awarthril isn’t expecting her to live more than 200 years.”

“Pblrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrp! I’m expecting her to live forever!” Awarthril interrupted with heat and fire in her voice.

Serondes graciously nodded a compassionate concession, and kept going.

“You’re going for a companion yourself, you should have some idea of the depth of the bond involved. Now, Awarthril’s come along with us to try and get enough levels for Kiyaya to gain her own Immortality skill.”

Awathril threw a fork at Serondes. It wasn’t particularly fast, not with the supersonic throws I knew she was capable of, and he easily dodged it. He did get brained as she pulled on the thin strand of sticky goo attached to the fork, boomeranging it back, making him faceplant into the table.

Either way, message sent and received. Serondes kept talking as he rubbed his head, glaring at Awarthril.

“Now, she finds someone who can grant Immortality, or heck, like you were saying, turn back the clock. What would she do to convince you to help her and Kiyaya?”

“Uh. Ask nicely?” I hazarded, channeling a bit of Brawling and playing the naive human.

No, the implications Serondes was talking about were all too clear. Even if Awarthril was totally moral, and I helped her out willingly, desperation one day might drive her to some extreme or another. Someone with a higher level and fewer scruples might want an Immortality granting healer around, to keep all their favorite toys alive forever.

And since this was Immortality that was being discussed here, forever was forever.

“Ok, no, I get it.” I raised my hands defensively as Aegion started to open his mouth. “What makes Immortality skills different from, like, the best carpentry skills ever? Why doesn’t that inspire greed?” I asked. “Surely this can’t be the only madly desired skill.”

“Time.” Awarthril grimly answered. “Or replaceability, depending how you look at it. You want Folen to make you one of his legendary talismans? You can afford to wait until your name is next on the list. You need a sword of adamantium? Offer a new life to a hundred orphans, and train them all in the art of smithing, until one master rises to the top, and can craft the sword for you. However, you fall in love with a mortal? You find a lifelong connection with a companion who’s only got 300 short years on the planet? Nothing can replace them. The only solution is to get them to a high enough level, and get lucky that the System offers an Immortality skill - or find someone who can grant it. Conventional wisdom says to not fall in love with mortals, or bind with creatures with low lifespans, but… sometimes life just happens.” She affectionately petted Kiyaya, fighting back a tear.

“Oh.”

I put on my thinking cap.

I didn’t have much more to say. I’d wanted the Immortality skill, burned with desire for it. I’d crafted and shaped my class to accommodate the skill, all without thinking about long-term implications and knock-off effects.

With that being said, would I have problems in Remus?

Unlikely. Night, and other vampires could grant Immortality, and yet they didn’t seem to have big problems. Being somewhat secretive and hiding could help, along with being the biggest, baddest fish in the small pond called Remus, but there was something more to it than that. The elves knew about vampires, but I hadn’t heard of secret midnight raids to kidnap them. Given that, to my understanding, they could grant Immortality, I was missing some piece of the puzzle.

I mean… Aegion had just mentioned that the elves suspected the vampires had gone extinct, which might be why there were no daring… midday? raids.

Come to think of it, Night had never offered to turn me into one, nor were there legions of ex-Sentinels-turned-vampires running around. At least, not that I knew of. There had to be something else going on, but I didn’t think this was the time for it.

Also, I’d seen stasis fields from Lun’Kat. Didn’t they imply other ways of keeping people around forever? Oh, right - they’d freeze the person, and it wasn’t much better than creating a statue of the person, but it did extend the timeframe… although given that it was one of the most powerful dragons in the world making the stasis fields, it might be out of the reach of all but the highest leveled elves.

I challenged one of my assumptions. I hoped Lun’Kat was one of the most powerful dragons. I dreaded to think what it’d be like otherwise. The fact that one of her elements was Mirage implied she wasn’t that combat-focused as…

Focus.

“Elaine. If you can help Kiyaya, will you do it? Please?” She asked, as the wolf in question nuzzled my hand, licking me plaintively. “I’ll owe you a favor, even if you just try.”

Well, nothing for it. I had no reason to say no, and this would be good practice.

I focused on the skill, “stretching” it like a new muscle. I tried to channel it into Kiyaya, but there was no purchase. No feeling of activation. It was like I was trying to heal a rock.

“I’m sorry. I don’t think my skill works on wolves.” I said, feeling my heart stabbed as Awathril’s face fell. The skill had no ‘purchase’, no feedback.

She put on a brave face.

“Well, nothing for it. I’d be more than happy to work with you to level you up, get the skill stronger, and evolve it so it can help with non-humans!”

Always the eternal optimist.

“That might be a bit hard - I put the bare minimum in to get the skill, it was expensive.”

“What do you mean?” Aegion asked.

“I had the chance to build my own class! It was a ton of fun, but incredibly stressful.”

I’d mentioned that earlier, but it’d gotten lost in the discussion about my class qualities and stat totals.

The elves and their companions all looked at Serondes, who gave a smug smile.

“I managed to get that for my Lava class! Had a whole range of volcanoes, and a jar of lava to pour. Got some nifty skills out of it. How about you?”

Interesting. It didn’t quite seem to be as rare as I thought.

“Stars and constellations I had to ignite with starlight.” I said.

“Elaine, it sounds like you’ve had a most fascinating journey. I’d love to know more about you. Tell me about yourself.” Serondes gave me a look, like I was the only person in the world.

I know I’d given the short version of my story, heck, earlier today, but now they wanted more.

“Well, things started in earnest when I was eight, and unlocked my System. See, I had my good friend, Lyra, who…”

I gave them a somewhat abridged version of events, from the events that caused me to swear my [Oath], without going into details of exactly what was in it, to running away from home, bandits, Rangers, monsters, classing up, kidnapping, more monsters, plagues, the capital, Ranger Academy - the short version - becoming a Sentinel, keeping all the Sentinel secrets. An overview of my missions, from plagues to pirates, earthquakes to rebellions. Then the Formorians, and, well, they’d heard it from there.

It was pretty late by the time I’d finished, and Serondes had scattered torches around the campsite, igneous rock topped by shifting Lava.

I was helping as well, with my own little glow, but I was feeling more than a bit regretful right now that I’d taken Radiance over Lava. It was just so versatile!

I had to remind myself that it was significantly more expensive to pull off the same tricks, and Radiance had a different bag of tricks. Like, Radiance light was cheap. Lava-light? Had to keep dumping large amounts of mana into the Lava to keep it hot, and it kept radiating the heat out, while also not being all that bright, relatively speaking.

Aegion was contently sipping another mug of mystery beer, a contently sloshed look on his face.

“Good story, good story.” He gestured towards my mug I’d been nursing, carefully rationing every sip. It was good stuff, worth savoring and letting the feeling flow over me with each mouthful.

“I’m totally convinced now. Elaine dear, you need to spend some time with us, to learn what it means to be Immortal, and how it’s going to change things for you. Plus, we need to get your level way up. That Night fellow sounds like he’s got his heart in the right place, but is muddling through it himself. I’m sure he’d do his best to help you, but, well…”

She trailed off, not wanting to finish her sentence, and disparage someone close to me. I could roughly fill in the blank.

“But he’s not an elf.

Still, I did appreciate them wanting to raise my level, even if it was for selfish reasons. I wasn’t going to say no, any help in this hostile world was worth it.

“One early trick, for example, are companions! You’re going to be living a long, fruitful life, probably with a bunch of cycles to get your classes and their quality high enough. Companions are great for that! They help protect you when you’ve just reset, and you’ve lost a lot of strength. Jumping from your first cycle to your second is rough. A lot of Immortals do something silly, thinking they have their old strength, that they’re as fast as they used to be.”

Awarthril shook her head sadly, but not with the knowing of having lost someone close to her to the described mistake.

“Plus, companions are great!” Aegion jumped in, affectionately feeding Cordamo carefully-sized chunks. The poor snake was bloated as hell, having been ‘affectionately fed’ for the past few hours while I was telling my story, but the little glutton was still forcing his mouth open for the next bite. “People will come and go your entire life, no matter how much you might think otherwise. A companion though? They’ll keep you grounded, centered, sane. One friend who’ll never leave you, who you’ll never drift apart from over the centuries.”

“Right now, we’re all the best of friends.” Serondes chimed in, to everyone’s - companions included - agreeing nods. “A thousand years from now? I might be cashing in some favors Awarthril owes me once in a while, and every decade or so inviting Aegion to lunch. A companion? Friendship for your eternal life, the one constant in an ever-changing world.”

Awarthril shot him a foul look at that.

“It’s pretty late. We should turn in for the night.” Awarthril yawned and stretched.

“I’m happy to take a watch if needed! I don’t mind helping. I’m used to it.” I volunteered.

“Watch?” Aegion asked, as confused as could be. “Why would we set a watch?”

Um. What?!

“Er, if something attacks us in the night, or tries to sneak in, or something? Whoever’s awake can alert everyone else?” I looked around, seeing looks of confusion.

“But nothing’s going to attack us.” Serondes pointed out, like it was the most obvious thing in the world.

“Don’t worry about it Elaine! We’ll be fine. Just go get a good night’s sleep.” Awarthril said.

“I’ll fix you up a little space. Come with me.” Serondes got up from the table, beckoning me to follow. With a flicker of thought, he raised walls, expertly catching a bedroll tossed by Aegion over to us. Sand and Lava mixed together as he hummed, a beautiful and haunting melody. Soon, a cozy little sleeping space, complete with small windows, big enough to let in some light but not let anyone see inside, emerged, with us in it.

It would be cozy even before Serondes was here, and as it was, I ended up pressed against him, my mind whirling in all sorts of different and interesting ways. I shifted to make sure my egg stayed safe.

“One last thing before I go.” He musically half-whispered in my ear, not needing to be any louder for me to hear. “Match the egg’s temperature, then exceed it by a small amount. If you’d like, I can make a Lava box to keep it warm at night.”

The soft breaths on my ear was causing a flushing to go up my neck, and I mentally reasserted myself.

“Thank you.” I whispered back. “I’ve got a skill for it.”

“Tell me if you need any help during the night.” He walked out of the small sleeping hut he’d made.

I did need something - I retrieved my armor, and spent some time making sure it was all dry, doing some serious thinking. First things first though, I adjusted the heat output from my Radiance magic to the egg I was holding, then once I’d gotten it just right, according to both Serondes’s instructions and [Egg Incubation], I tied it off with [Persistent Casting] and forgot about it.

First off - all the elves were stupidly good looking and interesting. However, my experience with Jaclyn, remembering how that turned out, was a good reminder not to rush into things. Heck, the elves either didn’t notice the effect they had on me, or just assumed it was totally natural.

I wanted to curse the gods out for making elves so damn perfect. If I’d known, I would’ve begged Papillion to be an elf, not a human. It was so unfair, I could cry.

I let the feeling pass. Crying and being upset over it wouldn’t change the past, it wouldn’t change who I was.

With that being said, I figured I could indulge in the inadvertent crush I’d developed on all three of them for a single night, then ruthlessly crush it - pun intended - and properly mentally reset myself, so I wasn’t totally bedazzled by all three of them, so I didn’t hang onto their every word and watch every motion, hoping they’d glance at me and smile.

Hormones were so annoying!

At the same time, they could be a ton of fun. The trick was going to be in control of my feelings, and not let them rule me, along with not making any dumb decisions.

And hey, once I’d sorted out my crush feelings and gotten my head screwed back on straight, maybe I’d pursue one of them. None of the dates I’d gone on in Remus had been any good, and I was starting to despair of finding someone, anyone, who could relate to me in a respectful way, who I found interesting and wasn’t old enough to be my father.

Ok, maybe technically the elves were that old, but they seemed to be around my maturity level. Either way, we were on a similar playing field, so to speak. They didn’t have a bunch of kids running around, we were all Immortals, in short, they didn’t trigger any of my squick “ewww no” factors.

Awarthril’s mothering of everyone was getting close though. Wasn’t there yet.

Right. Plan was set - indulge in crush tonight, then kill it, and look at the elves with a fresh set of eyes. I wrapped myself up with [Mantle], then started fantasizing about the elves. Only question was - who?

Serondes, with his musical voice?

Cute Aegion?

Awarthril, with her caring nature and ginger hair, which I’d never seen in Remus?

No, wait - All three.

At the same time.

I practically exploded in delight at the thought.

Comments

TYPO: "knock-off effects" should be "knock-on effects"

S T

Every time the elves answer a question, I come up with a new question. PLEASE KEEEP TALKING. 🙏

S T

Her standards are just high. They have to be either extremely eye catching vampire or plain old immature elfsss..

Random×Demon

The [Hot Elves] will be [Eaten] and [Replaced] in the night.

lenkite

Yea the elves are great characters! I love them more than even the sentinels already! So likableeeee

evyatar

another thing that people are forgetting is that elves are cursed to be stubborn and aloof

Zanin Lozar

Yeah, without reset cycling you eventually get stuck. The kind of monsters that can level you past 2000 would annihilate you. And I wasn't talking about Elaine but the elves. Take an elf with advanced Learning and Training at level 1024. That's a 29x experience multiplier. Now let's assume that elves naturally gain 10x more experience due to being the gods' favourites and we have a 290x multiplier. Add to that the fact they have the stats to kill level 300 monsters with a level 32+ class and kill them solo (more exp) while facing them head-on instead of nuking them from afar (more exp). Even if the system rewards less experience due to low risk and no novelty, a hundred dinos a day, with a 290x multiplier, is still going to level their class fast. At least up to level 256. Night is on one end of the spectrum, it took him five millenia to reach 512, while the elves are on the other end. The only reason it takes them so long is probably because they see no point in powerleveling every day. They're immortal, they'll get there eventually. And another point in favour of resetting back to 8 is that it allows you to experiment with different elements.

Cirvante

I am fairly certain that due to Elaine's interference, vampires might go public quite soon without issues. With healers being Oathbound to privacy, vampires can ask for blood and healing without repercussions. The healers might find it gross but money is money and losing a bit of blood is of no issue. This will eventually cause vampires stop hunting since they will be able to just pay for high quality blood - thus significantly reducing tension between the two races.

Alexey Gladkich

yes there are plenty of examples of world beauties marring toads, but the toads are rich, have something of similar or better value going on for them or can offer something that the other party wants really badly. its difficult to rate an artwork in real life standards, Elaine is good looking for sure but saying that someone is perfect is on a different scale, there is no easy way to come to an agreement on this, since we don't even have an artwork of the elves, and am artwork is in the end an artwork, its not really possible to compare to the real thing and the one drawing it is an human so what we see is an idealization of beauty. PS i think we scale differently in how we rate looks,we are oversemplificating with numbers but I would rarely give 8 as a rating and almost never 9, 10 is possible but virtually non exixstent

DANTE

Elaine's [Scintillating Ascent] makes her naturally more beautiful. She hasn't seen her face in ages and I wouldn't be surprised if once she looks upon herself she'd find herself to be stunningly beautiful. Besides, Serenades is totally smitten with her - we have an obvious ship.

Alexey Gladkich

@evyatar the problem is that she doesn't know his age. She sets target age at skill use - not difference to current. De-aging by 10 years an old man is likely to go unnoticed. But what if she messed up completely and badly misjudged his age? So instead of prolonging his life by 10 years he is suddenly young?

Alexey Gladkich

@MeltingSky the person who never reset will never reach 4000 to begin with. Unless ofcource they somehow managed to get Black quality class around lvl 1000 and had very high quality prior to that. Monsters reach extremely high level partially due to having extremely large racial stats boosts - meaning that from the very start their class quality is very high.

Alexey Gladkich

@MeltingSky It won't take a casual week but it will be very quick. You see, Elaine's Learning will boost XP gain greatly at lvl 768, about 10 times. And stats from other two classes with significantly ease level gain of the low level class. Furthermore, the class will be of high quality and have great skills despite being low level. Only 256->768 leveling will take a long while unless seriously risky situations occurred.

Alexey Gladkich

We have plenty of examples of real-world beauties dating or marrying real-world fuglies and Elaine is in no way remotely fugly. A person's worth is not determined by their appearance. Also, the gap in beauty between the elves and Elaine isn't anywhere near as wide as you are making it out to be. Elaine has been described as good looking throughout the story and we straight up know what she looks like since we have pictures of her. She is a very pretty girl, placing her at the top end of human beauty. The elves may be supernaturally beautiful, but that actually doesn't put them much above her. I hate assigning numbers to beauty as if a 1 to 10 integer could somehow capture the nuances of such a thing, but for argument's sake if an elf is an 11 on 1 to 10 scale then Elaine would be a high 9. That isn't much of a gap.

Melting Sky

Leveling from 1 to 256 is going to take way more than a week. If it's a healer class, she is looking at years to get back to 256 since healer classes get very little from killing stuff. If it's a combat class, it's still probably going to take more than a week since the only way anyone goes from 1 to 256 in a week is if they are in a constant life and death struggle in a pitched battle killing thousands of formidable enemies. The only time we have seen feats of combat leveling like that have been the surviving champions of losing battles who stood against the tide as their comrades fell beside them. The system provides very large exp multipliers for novel and dangerous situations which would be completely missing from a fish in a barrel dinosaur hunt. If you are hunting enemies that are trivial to you the leveling pace is going to be MUCH slower. The level cycling process the elves are describing will take many thousands of years to reach a perfect class. Even longer if it's done safely which it pretty much would have to be if you plan to actually survive to the end. You can have a good run of luck, but no run of luck lasts 10,000 years straight. I guess healers have an advantage when it comes to surviving against the odds in pitched battles because they can survive mistakes that would end anyone else, but they are far from invincible. The way the elves stubbornly reset their classes for millennia looking for the absolutely perfect version is not exactly optimal and is likely a result of their curse. A person who keeps resetting around lvl 1000 for thousands of years will be much weaker than one who has never reset and is sitting at close to level 4000. In the pursuit of perfection, the person resetting and weakening themselves over and over again for thousands of years is exposing themselves to WAY more danger than the person that just keeps on leveling until they hit the max. The reset strategy only works if you live long enough to see the fruits of your labor in the far distant future when you finally level cap. My guess is that somewhere in between is where the sweet spot is. At least a couple of resets are probably worth it for immortals who have a safe environment and whose starting classes were really low quality.

Melting Sky

But what if she only de-age the old guy who is about to die by one day? She can do that and its within the oath parameters no? It would risk her freedom and safety to heal him and reveal herself otherwise, make the hard decision kinda thing… And if there is a cool down the next day she doesn’t need to worry about the same oath problem

evyatar

Haughty for humans and elves is a different thing isn’t it? Depends on culture. And the physical classes may be shamed if they use physical force to solve their problems on other classes with respect, like healers for example

evyatar

@Cirvante since the leveling of 1->256 would be quick - the improvements past the reset will be very minor. I think only 256 lvl up and the reset can accumulate enough XP and achievements to get next better class quality. It's very unlikely that you can improve, say, Dark Green quality with lvl 32 or 128 upgrade. If partial reset leads to one of older class instead of choosing a new one - then it's not worth it. A large portion of quality improvement process is picking class when you have lots of stats.

Alexey Gladkich

There was also an obvious foreshadowing in Iona's timeline. With the healer that according to rumors can grant immortality. (The healer is most probably Elaine)

Alexey Gladkich

Elaine has always shown intense romantic feelings ... towards mangos.

Cirvante

It's not just the stats from 8 to 256, but a chance for better starting classes unlocking better advanced classes later. And getting a class from 8 to 256 is easy when you're backed up by two 1024 classes and massive experience multipliers. Just wipe out some level 200-300 dinos for a week and you're golden. I'm not sure how the specifics of a partial reset work, but I think that in order to reconfigure [The Dawn Sentinel], Elaine would have to reset back to level 128 [Constellation of the Healer] and level up to 256 again. The custom class option should still be available as long as she is still the Dawn Sentinel. The system remembers her achievements, even [World Traveller] is still available.

Cirvante

Elves aren't haughty though. The ones we've met so far are certainly arrogant, but more in a 'matter of fact' way rather than being haughty and looking down on others. So like "Of course we're perfect, we're elves!" Ultimately, we know very little about elven society and how they treat each other and that allows Selkie to come up with some explanation that makes sense. I imagine that they have a significant disparity between older elves and younger ones like the trio. Selkie hinted at this with the spatial box. For Elaine it was an amazing magical gadget but to them it's mass-produced trash because they can't afford anything better. Similar to Night who could gift Elaine a house in the inner city, older elves will have spending power magnitudes higher than younger elves during their first cycle. And while older elves might have access to immortality-granting healers, those healers might just not be willing to offer their services for an affordable price. Stubborn and aloof. And good luck forcing a level 1024 healer with two mage classes during his 12th reset cycle to become your personal healing bitch. No, as a young elf during your first cycle trying to keep your pet alive you are probably shit out of luck. If the service is publicly available, the prices would be astronomical and the waiting list measured in centuries.

Cirvante

@Cirvante about impossible to pay - if the skill comes with large cooldown time then no arcanite or any enchantmets can help solve the issue. If the healer can apply the skill 12 times a year and there are 1000 people needing it now - who's gonna get it? It's like an auction with lives on the line and thus prices will skyrocket fast.

Alexey Gladkich

@Cirvante but if you reset your class to an earlier point - do you get to choose what you get? With complete reset a different class can be chosen but is it really the case with partial reset? Also stats from 1->256 contribute very little compared to 256->768. Stat scaling from class level tiers has huge impact. Perhaps it adds a bit but is it worth extra danger?

Alexey Gladkich

One of the more usual traits of beeing haughty would be using violence where diplomacy didn't get ones way. So i do wonder how the elven society tends to handle the ones with immortality-granting skills, for i do not think that every other elf is easygoing and openminded like the trio there. Reading Awarthril sternly warning Elaine about granting immortality beeing a ["...one of the most sought-after skill..."]

Vadim J.

Nope, Selkie confirmed you can reset your class completely or to an earlier point, like 128 or 32. When you only care about amassing stats and upgrading class quality, then resetting to 8 is better since going from 8 to 256 is a breeze with two classes and experience multipliers at 768 or 1024. However, Elaine can reset back to 256 and re-customize [The Dawn Sentinel] at higher quality. As long as she stays a sentinel the option should be there.

Cirvante

Could be absurd prices that are impossible to pay for younger elves. Like massive arcanite crystals, powerful enchanted equipment. It could also be the elven curse at work. Being aloof might just lead to them only using the skill for themselves and some friends. If you're already a rich, immortal elf, you might not want all those annoying youngsters knocking on your door every day so you can de-age their pets or lovers. Or perhaps the scarcity comes from the skill being so difficult to achieve without Elaine's manuscripts. In the future healers will be forbidden from classing up past 256, so the skill can't be too rare at that point. But they all learned her medical knowledge. Then again, elves had five millenia to figure out healing, so high-level healers after multiple cycles should all have the skill. My best guess would be the elven curse making it so that the elves who have the skill being unwilling to share it with strangers or asking for exorbitant prices.

Cirvante

@Selkie I believe I did explain why that would be an issue? It depends on multiple factors... but with CD being long only so many people/companions can get de-aged. Now what kind of reaction people that get the short straw have considering how much is at stake? How will it end up?

Alexey Gladkich

Alexey - he's talking about someone doing it pre-emptively, then selling their services.

Selkie

@Cirvante I think it is only possible to reset class to lvl 1. Else Elves would recommend 768->256 which isn't nearly as weakening as 768->1.

Alexey Gladkich

@Cirvante The problem is that the 100 orphans strategy takes time and possibly a lot, like a 1000 years, which is something you don't have when you need your companion immortal in 200 years. The strategy of trying to mass produce could've been tried... but there are multiple reasons why it could end up failing. Like people not wanting to admit they have the skill considering how much tension it creates where it to be known publicly. Some really nasty situation could've led to that. Also the skill version that can grant immortality to companions is probably extremely hard to get. Elaine pushed most of her starlight of a Dark Green class and didn't manage to fill it. Perhaps, to use the skill it also requires a lot of control making it normally unavailable in pre 768 class-ups. Besides, these skills have cooldown - probably long. How many creatures can a single healer sustain? If CD is a month and you want it applied every 50 years then you have like 600 clients top. It is just so much easier to give simple advice: do not make deep bonds with mortals.

Alexey Gladkich

Shit I never thought about that Cirvante. Good point... maybe they have utterly absurd prices....

Selkie

We don't know how hard it is though. Elaine only got because 1. her insane knowledge and 2. because she could create her own class. If you just raise a 100 orphans they'll never go through similar hardships that Elaine got through. You'd maybe have to raise them all the way to 1000 or something for there to be even a chance of it happening.

Tjark

Finally Elaine has some more romantic feelings. I thought she was immune to them.

Scientist Valci

Now that Elaine is thinking about elvish romance, here is an interesting reflection on romantic tropes in harem (all three!) novels: http://www.andreakhost.com. Enjoy!

Scott, just Scott

Thanks for the chapter.

Joshua Little

If someone is at deathbed from age - then she's Oathbound to heal them. This is unlikely scenario though but it will probably occur one day.

Alexey Gladkich

What's the point of the skill if she won't keep her family alive? She won't tell about the skill. She'll just say that it's some healing buff and each year will make them younger by a year - keeping them effectively unaging.

Alexey Gladkich

With such a valuable skill, she'd be better off cycling only her 2nd and 3rd class while periodically upgrading her celestial healer class whenever she hits diminishing returns. Even if it takes her twice as long cycling only two classes, it's still better than losing her custom class and immortality. Edit: Oh right, resetting [The Dawn Sentinel] to 256 and customize it again at higher quality and with more starlight could work.

Cirvante

I must have missed the bit about her parents. I just remember when she got the skill and described it only in terms of working on herself. At the time I remember thinking it was likely just self immortality, but it looks like I missed a bit of later foreshadowing.

Melting Sky

Eh, you could raise up 100 orphans as healers the same way you would do with blacksmiths for an adamantium sword. The solution to the problem of companions dying of old age is to create abundance not artificial scarcity. Elves have been frolicking around for 5000 years, cycling class resets, and they don't have immortality-granting clinics in every city? If it was really so sought after, you'd think there would be large-scale efforts to produce more individuals with the skill.

Cirvante

If she resets to the same class type then her skills would naturally return and be even better.

Alexey Gladkich

If I’m remembering right, it is possible to reset to a higher level than the baseline— you can reset your class to any level at which it could have upgraded. So Elaine could just reset to a 256 class that still has the immortality skill. It might possibly be less efficient, but she wouldn’t run the risk of losing her immortality.

Sesharan

i don't doubt elaine is attractive but i think the cosplay was more because she is a sentinel than because she is super attractive, like people cosplaying a celebs or fictional characters. using numbers for people looks its just for shortness, there is an chance we don't even agree on what's a 4 and what's a 9, even if we judge and like similar things, for example i would say 70% of people is between 4 and 6 and that's about all average looking people, 8 are people you rarely but consistently meet, 9 you don't come across often at all, and 10 you can count the time you meet one real life in your hands, maybe you scale differently than me, and even still, do you consider yourself a 6 or 7 that dates between 4 and 9 or are you a 4 that somehow got a 9 or a 9nthat for some reason dated a 4? the range is the same between, 4 and 9, but were are you in that range? how much of a jump did you make? for the looks of it between Elaine and the elfs there is a really wide difference unless her looks got a really big upgrade for some reason

DANTE

It's true they've asked Elaine all sorts of stuff no one in Remus would consider asking but you gotta keep in mind these are elves. They probably consider this normal especially considering they told her all about their classes in return even without Elaine asking. Heck Elaine even mentioned once how Awarthril immediately told her exactly how her class works.

Tjark

You don't get [Pretty], if you're hideous. The same way you don't get social skills if your name is Elaine. There's a reason magical plastic surgeons are a thing in Remus.

Cirvante

It would be a little different than for natural immortals for sure. She'd have to keep her healing class and only cycle the other two for as long as it takes to get a second immortality skill in her other class and then change the cycling class. Of course it's worth mentioning that her healing classes were already on the stronger side so it's not really a pressing issue I'd say.

Tjark

She didn't think that even for naturally immortal race of Elves such skill is of extreme value.

Alexey Gladkich

The elves have done a pretty good job interrogating Elaine. They keep tripping warning flags in my mind and I can't help but think that things will head south all too soon.

Patrick

While I won't say Elaine is ugly... The prostitute dressing up as her is a bit of a special case. Elaine is a powerful individual and power is extremely sexy for a lot of people. Elaine could be hideous and people would still drool over her.

Imp

One thing I’m curious about now is how the immortality works with the class cycling that the elves are talking about. They mention she has plenty of time to cycle and get the most powerful classes, but wouldn’t she be able to cycle her other classes only at the risk of losing the immortality skill? Or maybe have to pray she got it in another class so she could cycle her radiance class.

Ashywashy

It makes sense, since it is part of her healer class and it was said beforehand, that she wanted to make her parents jung again as well

Hans

I'm liking how nice it is right now. She deserves it, and hopefully it lasts a while.

ShadowBlah

So it's been confirmed her immortality skill is NOT just a self-buff. Her wording originally when she classed up implied it was probably not a targetable skill. That is a huge revelation. This changes everything. She is a living fountain of youth.

Melting Sky

Elaine has always been a really open and nice person. Her guilelessness is both a strength and a weakness when it comes to meeting new people and diplomacy. It is a huge boon when meeting other good-natured people since her open and kind demeanor will make others lower their defenses and grow close to her more easily. In instances where you are meeting new people being guarded makes the other party view you with suspicion which is the last thing you want with prospective allies. Conversely, it is a liability with those who have evil intent since it makes her an easier target to manipulate and pump for information. It also is terrible in instances where discretion is needed and she runs into somebody she hates since she will not be able to hide her displeasure for long. Some people are just open and friendly. It's not necessarily a bad thing, in the same way being guarded is not necessarily a bad thing either. Both traits have their strengths and weaknesses. Trust is a fool's bargain and distrust is a fearful man's cage.

Melting Sky

Remember, although Elaine doesn't really seem cognisant of it, she is actually a very attractive individual to the point local prostitutes were dolling themselves up and cosplaying as her as a gimmick to improve business. That was before she had a magically enhanced beauty improving skill on top of her natural good looks. Unlike with pretty, her new skill's description suggests it is actually making much more direct improvements to her appearance rather than just tweaking what is already there. Also, people of radically different levels of attractiveness can and do pair up as couples, although it is true that there is some tendency for feathers of alike to flock together. I hate assigning stupid numbers to a person's appearance but I'll do it here for brevity's sake. In my own life, I have dated anywhere between a 4 and a 9.

Melting Sky

She is a very long distance from home in a very dangerous and high level area. Remember she spent days being jetted via Hunting across the entire region controlled by the Formians, then she spent like a week traveling by cart with the Dwarves. Then she was running around in the underworld for months on end. She is out in the middle of BFE.

Melting Sky

There's an interesting power dynamic in bars and situations like that. For instance, they asked men what their biggest fear was meeting a woman they'd met through an online dating service in person and the number one answer was "she doesn't look like her profile pictures." Women's number one fear was that they'd be raped. I submit there's a reason women are pickier about people they meet in bars. As for the idea there's some formula to break down what people find attractive so you can judge objectively even though you don't find that person attractive... Well. Of all the ideas that people have had through history, that's certainly one of them.

Keith Rice

Their assurance that they are safe is probably a combination of the fact they really are extremely well protected via skills, senses and companions combined with a bit of cockiness. I doubt these elves have lived as long as they have by doing truly dangerous things without the skills to back it.

Melting Sky

if buy "ugly" you mean the average 5/10 woman and the 12 guys are 9/10 or 10/10 maybe some would do it but they can probabilly take home an 8 easily enough now days, the only reason to consider it its because its for free

DANTE

do you really think 3 out of 12 men would join any of those?: https://www.flickr.com/photos/johnnyillustrated/2903059460

DANTE

Its quite logical really for her to return to Remus, say hello and than be shipped off after night understand the political nuke of having a socially inept Elaine offering politicians immortality so she returns to the elves, who intend for her to upgrade her class so her immortality skill upgrades, thus! Power levelling season is a go until the elves grow tired of adventure for the next millennium, she returns to remus every a decade or so to the border, touches some sentinels and her family to give immortality too, while her existence is mythical in the records as the creator of the healer manuscripts! And after a decade or two the civil war should calm down and allow her to return peacefully! Sounds goos to me!

evyatar

But they never paid for it! They are old and still alive, they are not naive, arrogant yes, but for a good reason probably, the wolf probably has skills involved with tracking and awareness, humans had to be cautious because everything is a danger to them. Elves developed differently, the wolf alone could be good enough, and we have a snake that is able to smell, taste the air and probably has heat vision… snake naturally are active at night and docile while the sun is up no? Some kinds i guess? The snake can take guard watch if its up at night

evyatar

Being friendly after having a really, really shitty year is basically it. Stress, horomones, lonely, giving help without expecting anything in return, it all adds up.

Imp

If I could give you more writing without burning out, I would!

Selkie

Is probably loneliness, and her open personality. Elaine has already shown that she is an open book as long as you approach her as a friend.

Chloe Grace whitson

Lol relationship wise... maybe. But i think if the most "ugly" woman went into a bar with 12 dudes and said i want to take some one home tonight. 3 of them will immediately join her table and the other 9 will think about it.

Mat

I think she went thorugh a portal when she left the dragons lair. She is hopefully on the same planet.

Torbjørn Nilsen

Post nut clarity truly helps though.

Torbjørn Nilsen

Hmm wondering if the Elves did something to get Elaine to talk so much. Could just be stress and hormones 🤷🏼‍♂️

Nicholas F

Thats hard to believe. Everyone wants to live longer and its obvious many would do all kinds of nasty things if necessary to do so.

tibbish

Poor girl elf whose name i always immediately forget. It would suck to know that you COULD get your dog to stay with you forever, if only you try a little harder.

Mat

LOL what tier gets you access to Elaine's spank bank?

Mat

Nah, just arrogance and pride, making them blind to the fact that anyone could or would attack them.

Mat

Lol also i have never noticed that such things help with ending crushes, specially if they are particularly GOOOD sessions.

Mat

To be fair, it is pretty in character for her. We the paranoid jaded masses of the internet, know the horror of revealing to much of ourselves. However, trust and optimism is both her fatal flaw and her greatest strength.

Mat

Well when was the last time she talked to anyone?

Håvard

I’m half betting they have like a racial skill, some sort of ‘friends of the forest’ type thing.

MrAcerulez

Why were vampires supposed to be secret? She was keeping a lid on the immortality skill because A) She didn't have it, B) she didn't know how night would react to the threat of a new Immortal. Elaine's always been open about stuff. This is nothing new

Selkie

you can still judge someone looks, just because I don't find man attractive it doesn't mean i dont know how to judge mens looks, just because i wouldn't bed an attractive guy it doesn't mean i cant recognize that he looks attractive, you also judge yourself based on what its attractive, if you are 185 with a six pack you know you are way more attractive than a guy that's 160 with a belly, there are some traits that someone might find more attractive than others but there is baseline that allow everyone to judge other people regardless of your preference

DANTE

It doesn't. Or shouldn't. Her Oath makes her heal those who are injured and sick. Namely, those who's condition is "unnatural". Age is something natural, and neither injury or sickness.

Jeanean

She knew it was super valuable, but not THIS valuable

Selkie

Hmmm. Elaines conversations and actions recently (lunkat's lair) make me question how much has learned or matured over the years. She is just spilling all of her secrets and allowing herself to be vulnerable around a bunch of strangers. Vampires were supposed to be a secret. Her immortality skill was supposed to be secret (right?) Shes giving strangers her life story. Hell, at one point with the dwarves she offered to give them a map.

Nova

What could possibly go wrong ?

Thenais

I think "who looks better" changes based on who you're attracted to. If you're not normally attracted to men you're probably not going to find too many attractive men. And visa versa.

Keith Rice

Was there a skill in play here on the part of the elves? I thought Elaine had already figured out how valuable her skill was, and recognized she should keep it a secret.

Sebin Paul

the question is, does her oath force her to save everyone from death by age? she can cure ageing afterall now

DANTE

that's true for sure bur its really rare and require a lot of interaction and compatibility, I say its worst for woman because the way they look is way more important so its way harder on average for a woman to hit up with someone way better locking then her

DANTE

Really hope she's gonna pay a visit to Remus before she starts travelling with the elves in earnest. Also, I wonder how she is going to deal with her parents. She can grant immortality and probably wants to keep them alive, but will she actually do it? Is she going to decide against it herself? or are they going to say no? What about her brother, or Artemis?

Jeanean

Right, this might be the case for elves specifically because of their general attitude but irl looks are definitely not everything. Sure it's tilting the odds but it's still very possible imo.

Tjark

Well they said they're going in the same direction so it might be their destination even if she could go there much faster. I think she does miss them. However, first it would be kinda repetitive if every chapter mentioned it. Second it's probably more in the back of her mind. Sure she would have constantly thought about it when she was alone in the tunnels for months but now that she's actually met people who aren't trying to kill or imprison (at least it doesn't seem so) her it's not a surprise she other things on her mind. Especially with the elves being elves for lack of a better way to describe it.

Tjark

Oh, interesting. There it is and it has the exact same time code as the elaine art with eggs. My phone was off that day might have tried to load both at once on sync. Selkie now declared "not spam".

Spiroko

I also didn't get an email for 229, or for some other Patreon updates earlier this week. Guess they had an unpublicized outage?

Mike G.

Patreon is sending mails to spam for some people.

Rui Lourenço

If I could pay more money to get more of your writing GOOD JOB!

Titania

I mean, the chances of having a relationship with someone significantly better loocking than you are borderline 0, and this is probabily the only case where woman have it worst than man relationship wise

DANTE

She should spend some time with the elves - but I really hope she finds the time make a visit to Remus first. She's been neglecting her family and friends for a while now...

Todor

Just wondering if its me, i didnt get the email for 229 and had to come find it on patreon before i read this. Also: giant wolf ftw. My favorite ranger pet/ shapeshifter/ etc in stories. Ty much.

Spiroko

Thanks

Thenais

Oh boy, this "no watch" plan won't have any consequences.

Keith Rice

Nice, thank you for the chapter.

Allie

Raunchy ending there

Angus Hamilton

Elaine really is spilling all her secrets without thinking twice, isn't she? Oof

Shifty Albert

Third yay, thx for the chapter @Selkie

Chloe Grace whitson

Thanks for the chapter

Dont_like_to_Talk

O lord. This is a top-tier cliff

Addicted_Reader


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