SSD 4.04 - A Map for the Future
Added 2022-05-10 19:55:18 +0000 UTCAnd now we continue our productivity adventure. Also, a shout out to bukvyrm for posting a review. I really do appreciate it.
“Maps are a way of organizing wonder.”
-Peter Steinhart
==POV: Caden==
I felt a little bad about laughing so hard when they opened up the door to the sewers, but their disgust was so obvious that I couldn’t help it. I only felt a little bad though, it wasn’t like the smell was going to actually hurt them. It was merely unpleasant.
To be fair, I had subjected myself to that smell in my human avatar. On a less fair note… bad smells didn’t bother me anymore. For all that my avatar was human, it retained the sensibilities of my dungeon nature. And that half wasn’t bothered by bad smells at all. The smell still had bad associations, because sewage was not a particularly pleasant thought, but there was no instinctive revulsion anymore.
I still wouldn’t call my experience of gradually tweaking the sewers for human perceptions pleasant. However, it would take more than it being mildly unpleasant to stop me from perfecting the dungeon. I had a certain pride in creating it properly. Not an instinctual feeling of possessiveness, like Exsan, but rather a joy in making something beautiful and functional.
I could create all sort of trinkets. I could be a sculptor and carpenter beyond compare, but it didn’t matter if what I created had no purpose. The dungeon had purpose. It served an important function. I didn’t necessary understand that function entirely, but two different groups had shown up and entered as soon as it was physically possible. I was hoping to learn more about what a dungeon did on the whole, but for now I knew enough to do my best.
Hence, a trip into the sewers had proceeded. I had also walked all over the dungeon, tweaking things here and there. I had a number of standardized sizes for things like stair steps, chairs, tables, etc… from my efforts. It helped me place windows and railings at the correct heights, put wear and tear in the right places, and far more.
I had to admit I also just enjoyed walking through my dungeon. I had tried to make it as beautiful as I could, even if I was trying to make it gloomy, or scary, etc… I had often appreciated the dark beauty of fairy tales on Earth. I had been okay with unhappy endings. Darkness was beautiful too, as long as it meant something. The original Little Mermaid was tragic, but poetically beautiful.
I was going to try to prevent death from being permanent in my dungeon. However, people only had so many opportunities, and some people would abandon caution rather than learning to do better. Their deaths would hopefully serve to teach someone else. Only here in my dungeon could I have this power over death. I wouldn’t let people leave believing they were invincible, because then they would get other people killed.
My thoughts were morbid, but I was trying to prepare myself for death in advance. I let the thoughts sit in my mind for a moment, and then let them go. I had other things to do.
The functions of the tower were simple enough that nothing there had gone wrong. No other team had entered, so no monsters had regenerated behind them until they stepped into the courtyard. I would need to see other groups enter before I would be able to judge how that worked.
The little groomer boss had worked great. It had gotten utterly smashed flat, but I already knew that these people were superhuman. A normal group of adult humans shouldn’t have much trouble with the tower and boss as long as they were reasonably well prepared. If the monsters turned out to be too weak, because everyonewas superhuman, I would adjust.
It was great to see Zidaun and his team analyze the boss battle too. It was my first chance to see it battle people. They could have destroyed it at any time, as proven by Zidaun wrapping it up in stone. Also, I had no idea how Gurek’s power worked. He got the injury a minute after taking it. Crazy.
Inda was interesting too. She was doing something to knives she was throwing. My calculation ability was going a bit haywire. They accelerated in some fashion, or something, after they left her hand. That wasn’t quite right either. It was driving my ability nuts. The knives were very effective though.
My town needed some minor adjustments though. A few of my ambushes were triggered closer together than I really liked. I did a bit more tweaking with the settings as they left.
I took a quick look at my status. My survival points had increased by four points after they left. Not sure what factors controlled that. Oh well… I would learn.
I hoped they came back and fully explored the town, but I wouldn’t be too surprised if they didn’t. I had made a fairly large environment here. Okay, more than fairly large. It was pretty damn massive. If I had a better way to make areas I would absolutely create bigger ones though. For now I had to make everything I wanted fit without collapsing the dungeon or running out of space.
They were meticulous about surveying everything. Inda actually drew beautifully. However, I wasn’t sure what their end goal was supposed to be. If they were supposed to document every single corner they would be at it for a while, even just with what they had already seen. If they were supposed to find how to clear the dungeon, or valuable materials, or a basic map, or something else... I didn’t know, they could be here for a variable amount of time. Guess I would find out in the future.
For now, a shard watching Zidaun had noticed them doing something interesting. They had pulled out a cylinder of some kind. More of them were in hispack, but I couldn’t really see them very well due to the mana that was a part of them. I appeared in the wall behind Zidaun and stuck just my face through above and behind him. I had already tested that he couldn’t sense me with his access to my aura. Not really surprising, I couldn’t sense myself. I might get abetter form of soul perception, but I didn’t have it yet.
The tube was covered with golden and silver metal, as well as runes. The runes were made of some type of crystal. I couldn’t see everything, but I recognized one; it was for mana. There was something about the way the shape of the cylinder was put together that was bugging me as well…
Zidaun pulled a piece of paper out of the cylinder and started to carefully write on it. I ignored that for the moment since it had no mana. I couldn’t feel the cylinder well enough to recreate the symbols, so I was forced to make them out of stone next to my core as best I could. I made the filigree lines in silver and gold as well.
I couldn’t see the whole thing from where he laid it on the table, and I didn’t want to change my angle too much. I did a little bit, but only to places I was sure he couldn’t see me. It let me put a little more detail together. There was something about the design.
I withdrew when Zidaun shifted and had Inda start drawing. I changed where I was watching from. I still couldn’t see much more of the cylinder. I could see what Inda was working on though. She really could draw well. Hmm, yep, that was a drawing of the town. Looked like some schematics for the internal layout of the tower as well.
They finished and I withdrew. Zidaun put the paper back and then activated some kind of magic. There was a faint ripple of something, but it was gone before I could even consciously realize it was there. When the mana faded away the cylinder had only lingering traces of mana in it. I could see some of it more clearly now. The paper that had been inside was gone now.
Was that some form of teleportation? With the map of the dungeon inside, along with whatever else they had written, it looked like they had sent information off to somewhere. I wish I knew where it had gone.
There was a cylinder inside Zidaun’s pack that felt similar to this one. Had they sent off information before they got into the dungeon or did they do it while I was busy meditating?
The group started to talk again, but they finished quickly and Zidaun grabbed the empty cylinder and headed outside. I moved my avatar back to my core room for the moment.
I watched Zidaun heading down the road, it looked like he was heading for the altar.
This could be very good news indeed.
It was only a few minutes later when he entered.
He found me waiting for him.
I sealed the door behind him as he entered.
I created a fake cylinder in my hands and put it in the altar, dissolving it after.
Yes, No?
Not the most elegant of communications, but I hoped it got my point across.
Zidaun smiled.
“Yes.”
I smiled back andraised up a tendril of stone.
Give, I pointed to the tendril.
He held out the cylinder and my stone tendril took it. As soon as it did I teleported stored it. A token for fifty points appeared held in the tendril’s grasp. Zidaun took it.
I thought for a moment. Zidaun didn’t really know what that was worth. Best to encourage people giving emblems. The more magic items I got the better.
I split the tendril up into multiple tendrils. I added a one centimeter sphere of folerth, a coin of magic infused gold, and a two inch cube of mana crystal that I grabbed from elsewhere (it had a few hundred mana stored in it).
One.
Ipointedat the three items.
Zidaun hesitated, looking at the three items. He seemed uncertain as he looked between the folerth and the cube. Finally, he reached for the folerth.
As he took it I stored the other items away.
I made a table and two chairs, then I sat down.
After Zidaun sat down, I started with a replica of what he had seen of the dungeon. A clear crystal dome covered a replica of the Starlight Grotto. A tiny statue of Jormungandr encircled it, and tiny trees made of gold and emerald created a barrier. Other tiny replicas of the buildings, statues, and doorway appeared as well. Then I created a minimally detailed version of the meadow with a much more detailed fortress in its own bubble. The fortress and town were created with the same gray stone as the originals.
From there I added on more and more crystal until I had created the shape of the mountain that I could see, as well as the snowy valleys and the other mountains that were visible. Then I covered them with grey stone and white marble to show the rock and snow.
It was a very incomplete three dimensional model, but it gave an idea of what I wanted.
I created chunks of marble, grey stone, clear crystal, sapphire, as well as gems in other colors and set them off to the side.
Zidaun.
I pointed at the blank materials and circled my hand around the map I had made.
Zidaun hesitated for a moment before material started to gather.
Additional stonegathered on the jut of stonethat hung aboveme on the map. It looked like the giant piece of stone hanging above the dungeon was pointed and stood all on its own. I wasn’t sure how I felt about that.
Vague identical mountains extended off to the west, to the east of me was a valley and then sapphires were used.
Gradually, a map was made. Rivers of sapphire crossed the land and met an equally blue ocean. Small roads of grey stone wound their way between hills covered in snow. Soon I had some approximation for where everything was nearby.
Zidaun pointed to an area that was below a section of cliffs. The area was a mixture of sapphire and smoky brown topaz. Tiny dots of ruby were held inside the sapphire. The pattern of the sapphire made it obvious that itwas some kind of delta.
“Zidaun. Adar.” He said another word I didn’t understand. Was he saying home?
I pointed to the mountain the dungeon was under.
Caden, Exsan, home?
He smiled, “Yes.”
Great, a new word.
I created a sample of dirt. I pointed at the topaz.
Dirt?
“Yes,” he said.
I made a cup and put some water in it.
I pointed at the water and then the sapphire.
Water?
“Yes.”
I made a small amount of salt. I mimed taking a little bit of it and tasting it. Then I pointed at Zidaun.
He looked at the salt and then tasted it.
I pointed at it.
Salt.
He gave me a different word and I wrote it down.
Then I pointed at the large body of water on the eastern side of the map.
Salt water?
“Yes.”
I pointed at the body of water again, and then at the other one to the west.
Ocean.
We proceeded like this as he described various parts of the map. He showed me the city of Asmund, apparently the city that the rest of his party was native to.
I would have kept going, but I caught Zidaun suppressing a yawn.
I stored the table and other things away for the moment as I rose.
I unsealed the door.
Go.
Another shard had been examining the cylinder I had been given, but I hadn’t figured it out yet. I would understand how it all worked eventually.
Comments
I would have to agree with zarik0 he's not there to hold their hand. He's there to kill, eat, grow, repeat. Dungeons are Dungeons, not a place for fun and games.
xerixoth
2022-05-13 15:25:21 +0000 UTCThank you for the extended answer Yeah its personnal but i dont like it where it go with that avatar thing on that aspect It basically force that now he will use his avatar for everything and everywhere he need to focus and look at thing if his vision is screwed at the baseline in the first place without it Wich will make a central focus of his perspective and his self going by the avatar Wich make it more like its a human walking around and building/managing a dungeon and way less a dungeon core Pov story if it will 95% of the time go by his human avatar perspective now and with it at a central focus/place of the Pov of MC and everything of interest he do and see Its going into the direction/aspect i feared it go when a avatar thing come into a dungeon core story, honestly that ruin a aspect of a dungeon core story in my opinion, i never see it done good when it begin to go into this direction with a avatar in a duneong story After all on of the big good point that is interesting in these story is that the MC is something else than a human now and need to adapt to it, and here you have the amazing big box to open with Caden/Exan thing to add in this aspect to make it extra interesting for us Feeling/Reading that in the end he just rego into a Human Form with his View/Focus passing by it and becoming a central thing of his Pov and Self/Perspective/Interaction with the world going by it now basically all time because the rest is supbar is bzzz Feel like you throwing the original/interesting perspective/story of a human reborn to a non-human thing to just rego into baseline human MC pov and perspective/view Little question did you consider for your soul avatar to not really have a human form instead? like just a blob of thing (or some geometric form after he become and fused with a dungeon core, fractal or shit?) who can modify maybe a bit his form for point thing (tentacle or moving spike/geometrical form), after all its a soul (so why really be human form when his body and experience he havenow is not human anymore and maybe that in some past life he was not a human too and a animal or vegetal instead, so why auto human) Going like that make it way less going out of "im a strange magical non-human entity now" who going to have strange experience and interaction and not just another human pov/perspective blabla Im more ok with going with a avatar thing in the story if it stay a strange thing so it staying consistant with him not being a human now and so creating interesting experience and reaction to it Or its going seriously limited with the human avatar thing and not at all become the central focus by where most of his Pov gonna pass soon Well that just my personnal opinion and my big rumbling on that aspect i dislike So dont take it to heart to much, just keep in mind that with choice like that that you choose in a story What the story gonna gain by having it, and in the other side what it gonna loose by going for it too The most important is what do you want and see for your story The Boss is You !! xD
Zarik0
2022-05-11 18:29:47 +0000 UTCSo, folerth, I mentioned before. It is also called sorcerer's silver, and it is the silver metal that Tam/Gnaeus was using to make enchantments. Also, yeah, patreon does some screwy stuff with formatting. It removes random spaces between things. As for why he isn't using dungeon senses, he tried, but dense concentrations of mana, like people, emblems, enchantments, etc... screw with his vision. Things he created with his own mana, and plants, animals, etc... that grow in his dungeon using his mana don't count. You can think of them being tuned into his wavelength. Since his avatar uses a different system to see, he pulled it over to use it as another tool. His core and his avatar both have "normal" vision, otherwise he uses his aura to see everything. Transporting his core and making it unnoticeable would have been very dangerous and difficult. As for saving people, Caden didn't want to be stuck trying to save people all day manually either. Not going to say exactly how it is going to work, but I am going to remind you that he bought the dungeon laws so that he could automate a few tasks. I am certain he will be interested the first few times the system engages, but the novel is not doing to devolve into him rushing around to save everyone all the time. He wouldn't have time to even try to do anything else if he tried to handle that kind of thing manually. As for his human perspective, it is meant to a be a mix. He uses it interact with Zidaun, and to properly understand the human perspective. He also uses it to enjoy the beauty of the dungeon and appreciates having sensations. However, he is also simultaneously running other perspectives to make the dungeon actually run, and he abandons the human form any time he needs to really work on something.
Foxmoor Fiction
2022-05-11 05:07:42 +0000 UTCComment dissapear in this post and the previous one..... patreon sometime....... :( Lucky i save them each time when i have taken some time to do one now, after having get the same thing in the past multiple time and getting very angry for it I have see that sometime when it happen if you do your repost of your comment piece meal they succeed to stay most of the time, or the only other way i have seen working is to bashe the same repost untill it stay finnaly :)
Zarik0
2022-05-11 00:44:35 +0000 UTCIt is the shape? shape used as a propulsion tube (cylinder) to launch the teleport (ball of mana/energy to transmit and launch) Or the cylinder have a foreign anti scrying/sneak spell/enchantment with a mana charge/reserve on the item to make it work, that cover it so cant decipher the techno/spell of it (and/or coordinate to who it go and identification into it too maybe?) and cant see into it with that And when its used it doesnt matter anymore because the thing into it disappear or the spell/enchant/infos is mostly destroyed
Zarik0
2022-05-11 00:33:15 +0000 UTC"I was going to try to prevent death from being permanent in my dungeon. However, people only had so many opportunities" Personnal opinion here: Ah plz i hope its not a thing here in the meaning, like that they have multiple life and get teleported out with their pendant/token when normally they die by a deathly blow or whatever I'm somewhat ok if he goes with that they can tp out of a fight with the token if they want to escape it (can give a limit to that too, cooldown/cost/restriction to it or etc), but if they normally die by something, well plz they die, dont like he go "full" savior and all that Im okay he adjust a lot for them and make it progressive so at not be a full death trap, but dont go too much in that, with him holding fully their hand and going to much of his way for going Gary Sue to them and all that, they come for fight, train/grow, plunder and loot, they not friend and ally to him (they more natural antagonist in the first place) and he is not a servitor and slave going everything he can for them and playing savior to them They come knowing "More of them were in hispack, but I couldn’t really see them very well due to the mana that was a part of them. " "I appeared in the wall behind Zidaun and stuck just my face through above and behind him." Dont sure i like that too much, feel like a forced thing so he gonna uses his avatar everywhere and every time now, was he not seeing INTO the backpack the problem here? did he not see way better them and the situation without his simple human avatar view? so no need to do that here at all, plz dont make it a focus of his view and him going total central on his avatar Its one of my fear when you where going avatar direction for a dungeon story like the other who got ruined a bit or totally in my view each time by that, his human soul avatar interaction was limit already but ok because limited and etc, and i like he use it for getting a human view when he build his dungeon so reason for it, but that's it, dont make him use it in priority for everything and everywhere and make it central to him or its become less a dungeon core story and more just a human walking around and its bzz in my opinion and ruin a good aspect about what make it interesting, better without avatar in my view but if go for it, as a tool or a thing to use in very specific situation and with limit to it, not becoming central like its his self plz "I couldn’t see the whole thing from where he laid it on the table, and I didn’t want to change my angle too much. I did a little bit, but only to places I was sure he couldn’t see me" Im ??? here, why he not using his dungeon sense to see it to all angle and view possible? he dont need to use avatar human view to see them and what they have close to them normally so this part seem contradictory to me Was it not that he can see them normally with his dungeon sense but cant see inside of them or inside item close to them and cant manipulate close to them his dungeon and item because the mana/aura they emit? If its not like that, all previous chapter are wrong because if so, previously he can "see" and detect only bubbles of aura/empty/nothing/blind zone when they are into his dungeon and all their item who have not his mana and aura into them are also "invisible" to him Really think that your first miss that we got here on this story :) about Point of view of him in the situation and description/observation of them by him in this chapter Maybe i missed something but if go for that i think you need to make it more clear about this aspect and make a solid and explained reason why he cant see here and so use his avatar and morever why with his avatar he can see and not with his dungeon (and something who work with all other past thing and situation in previous chapter), if he see with his avatar he can see with his dungeon the same in every point of view and angle around in my opinion, if he "see"/detect the light wave he can see everything in every angle and with a point of view everywhere "He seemed uncertain as he looked between the folerth and the cube. Finally, he reached for the folerth." What is a folerth? :) You have some micro typo like missing some space between words here and here Finnally the interaction with Zidaun and moreover the map scene into it is just fucking genius man, that was so good to read I really want now to get Zidaun Pov and though on that interaction, its all time a good moment to read when you have done it and there is a bit of possible wtf and woa moment and thinking about it and extrapolate on it for Zidaun Pov here :P
Zarik0
2022-05-11 00:22:07 +0000 UTCMy guess is it uses the teleport system that Caden used
Skyler Jarrard
2022-05-10 23:15:11 +0000 UTCI do love teleportation. So many interesting ways to use it. And it touches on fun and powerful forces.
Foxmoor Fiction
2022-05-10 20:13:10 +0000 UTCNoice, teleportation magic being got. I don’t remember if Caden has it, but getting drawing and map making with his avatar should be good skills.
ZCochraine!%
2022-05-10 20:11:18 +0000 UTCBonus points to anyone that figures out what might be going on with the cylinder. Not really a ton of information here, but someone might guess anyway.
Foxmoor Fiction
2022-05-10 20:11:12 +0000 UTC