HEAT 2

I got in to X3Z because of his forced sets. Of course I do not condone that in real life, but I definetly enjoy it in the realm of fantasy.

burgerman

Awesome.

Jake theberge

Hi all. Merry X-mas and a Happy New Year. :o)

X3Z Fan

Any plans for Lorena's next appearance?

X3Z Fan

Lorelei and Syndori.

X3Z

Is it still the same concept? Any idea who will star in it?

Jake theberge

Want to do ED: Dungeon.

X3Z

Whats up next? ED7? Something else?

Jake theberge

I'm here, just a little rest.

X3Z

X3Z, where did you go?

Eugene Levin

I agree, desperation can be extremely hot. Detailed response to your reply below.

Planetfall

anonymousfan305: I don't disagree with you. As a fellow porn connoiseur, I am strongly for a judgement-free, censorship-free environment where artists can make wildly experimental and often controversial art for fans. I don't think I ever once criticized the content of the Heat set, simply the intent. And I do realize that there are fans from all over the world and that English often doesn't translate well, so I try to be cognizant of that. You are correct in that if Bangfri never made the rape comment, I don't think the issue would have even come up. Truth be told, I think we all like pretty much the same content here (futa and girl-girl aside), and as you said, more breast play, more "reaction to penetration" expressions, and cum shots on both sides would have made this set perfect. I think my concern after viewing the whole set is that SINCE no one cums on either side, the pleasure is secondary to the brutality. I get that we are all here for fantasy, but doesn't someone need to cum for this to be erotic? It doesn't have to be the girl.

Planetfall

Well said, though i prefer the older Syndori than this one. In my opinion she's way more sexy and sensual than this version. Also as you said, she should definitely come out on top in the end preferably killing the orcs. But there were quite a few frames in this set where she looked to be broken and i didn't enjoy them one bit. Breaking a character, even in fantasy is plain evil to me.

PhoenixPrince

I don't think she is hurt, probably at some point, yes, but overall expressions could be better.

X3Z

I agree that Bangfris comment sucks but I have to say that I really like his set, really. I think it was a nice spin off and I hope Bangfri doesn´t feel discouraged about this. We are all prone to mistakes and learing is a process of failure. One cannot learn if one doesn´t do mistakes. The set is awesome the comment gruesome. Now let´s hug each other and be fine. :-)

M´ s Den of Lust and Desire

Am I the only one who doesn´t think she is hurt? I haven´t seen a sadistic scene here... If I hadn´t read the comments I wouldn´t know that someone was about to depict "true rape"... . Without the words it is a very good set and something fresh and new. I think there has to be variation otherwise it is porn and that is what I enjoyed with Hitmanx3z, Hibbli3d (before it got porn) and dizzydills3d. You cannot tell if it is rape or pleasure or something in between. Remember on a certain level, sex is about taking control over another person or letting oneself go. As long as everyone is happy with that there is no harm. And this is art, it is nowhere near reality. I loved the dp scenes and also the scene where the orc pushes her down and takes her from behind. I guess ther is a pont missed where she starts to enjoy it but I really hope that future sets will also involve those desperate looks and a little rough handling as in the scene where they force her onto the cock. I think two pictures of this, sliding into her really slowly and her face expression would have been nice. Also I don´t understand why, never in 3d art, the people play with their breasts? Women are so pleasurable there, they can be sucked, licked and massaged. Another thing is rubbing their clits, licking it and so on. I totally agree that forced sex only makes sense it everyone benfits and so far this elven woman hasn´t but I think she will and I look forward to that. So a little less of rape in the Heat series and a little more of what we have seen here with Syndori and Lorelei.

M´ s Den of Lust and Desire

To me there is no controversy in this set. The girl tried to kill the orcs and they are having their way with her. Telling yourselves that the other sets aren't rape is just your way to protect yourselves from a certain kind of moral that you yourselves established to enjoy your fetishes. This is fantasy and as Goethe put it: Everything is allowed if it pleases someone. So being fantasy and a pleasure for most of us it is perfectly fine. I for example enjoyed the set because it was a little more forceful. I don't care if she enjoys it in the end or not. I love the desperation in her eyes in many of the scenes where she is forced onto the cock and also her hurt expression in some pictures. It seems as if she enjoys it in the end and I agree that she should come against her will. Considering that she tried to kill them it is OK that they are rough but maybe they get soft on her because she is such a delightful plaything. Make her kill them in the end but also let them defile her body a little more. Forced blow and titt jobs, bukakke and the nasty dog monster raping her for good while she is being held in place or trying to crawl away at night. The less submissive she is the more they tease her. She learns and at some point overwhelms them and cuts their throats. As I already pointed out: I hate rape in real life but I enjoy the idea of it in fantasy if there is not only rough sex but also sensuality. It is there as soon as pinup style and desperation in their eyes or the will to fight against it can be seen. Having them broken is not sexy at all, but having them come against their will is really awesome. I think this is the best set so far because it achieved this. I may like Lorelei more but the face expressions in this set are top notch. I agree that there is a lack of cum on both sides but I enjoy what is cuming tu unfold.

M´ s Den of Lust and Desire

<a href="http://mongobongoart.blogspot.com/2013/12/mynxie-gingerbread.html" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">http://mongobongoart.blogspot.com/2013/12/mynxie-gingerbread.html</a> this is the outfit I had in mind. You just have them wearing some thing similar in a snowy outdoor area being attacked by something. It wouldn't have to be more complicated than that. Snow is a universal sign of the holidays, just make it snow as they are taken for maybe 1-5 images?. Tentacles are my prefrence.

Jake theberge

Interesting development and experimentation in this episode X3Z/Bangfri. I think it's about time the girls get a little humorous revenge over their tormentors. Very well done. :o)

X3Z Fan

Don't know if i can do Christmas Themed set, i'm too far away from all kind of Holidays...

X3Z

Okay, I have to give it to Jake....a Christmas one-off with Lorelei and Syndori might be the greatest thing since sliced bread. I am always reluctant to bring up other artists here, but Mongo Bongo did some great holiday themes with Zelda, Princess Peach and King Koopa that are still among my favorites: <a href="http://mongobongoart.blogspot.com/2013/01/new-years-2013.html" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">http://mongobongoart.blogspot.com/2013/01/new-years-2013.html</a> I would love to see Lorelei and Syndori being cute in red and green Santa outfits before getting ravaged by...well, pretty much anyone. Even a few frames would be amazing, as a holiday special.

Planetfall

I got a lot of negative responses for this experiment, alas. Anyway, I have no more ideas for gang-bang scenes. Now I think to start another series, but not sure, whether there will be X3Z's characters, or will someone brand new.

Bangfri

Something new and fresh once in a while is a good thing :) And I like this girl. She has a beautiful skin.

egomaniacXFR

Cool!

PhoenixPrince

Really any new sets are a good thing. And yes it should feature someone who hasent appeared in a while or not at all. Tentcles would be nice, but another set may just distract him from the deadline for ED7. Maybe just a single image with a few girls in xmas gear. Santa hats, red and green heeled boots, optional sex. How about that?

Jake theberge

Великолепный сет. Напомнило старый добрый Реперфилд. Проработка поз и мимика просто на высоте. Девушка очень понравилась, теперь буду знать кто у меня фаворит среди клонов Синдори. Действительно, не хватает только хороших букаке сцен, но надеюсь увидеть их в будущем. Никаких проблем в плане чрезмерной "жесткости" не вижу, да и по сюжетной логике, такая дерзкая вылазка в стан врага, с последующим разоблачением, ничем хорошим закончиться не должна. Я так понимаю продолжение истории под большим вопросом?

I think these girls need individual attention of those orcs. Can't have their attention divided. Totally support you regarding the mini set but it probably should feature only Syndori since she has not appeared in any set since ED3. Throw in some tentacles into the mix???? Nah, better to leave it for ED8 or future ED set. What do u say?

PhoenixPrince

Is christmas in Russia anything like in the States?

Jake theberge

Maybe we can con him into a christmas themed mini set with both of them in it?

Jake theberge

Hehe! To me lorelei and older syndori is tied at 1st spot. Any one them in those poses and with X3Z's signature pleasured yet defiant expressions...i can't wish for a better Christmas or New year gift!!! :D

PhoenixPrince

I would die happy seeing Lorelei in these poses, cumming over and over. Shes my number one X3Z girl. Hope ED7 continues soon.

Jake theberge

Totally agree!

PhoenixPrince

The action in this set is intense and if i follow the story it will also get so in the ED universe soon. What i hope is X3Z takes the poses because they are some of the most varied and intense i have ever seen but depict the same with more sensualism and way better facial expressions and less hurt to those beauties. And hopefully the elven beauties fight till the end and somehow come out on top.

PhoenixPrince

Totally agree with X3Z on this. I agree that 3d art is all about bringing our fantasy to life. Most often than not it revolves around rape. However, there is a fine line between depicting the same tastefully and depicting the same in a raw, sadistic kind of way. And here lies the heart and talent of an artist. I personally never liked porn that depicted sex in such a way that it left a bad taste in the mind. Rapefield was intense and in the end Lorelei did not come out on top but it nowhere in the set was she tortured sadistically and unnecessarily and there was defiance and fight left in her even till the end. This blend of intense action, pleasure, defiance, some of most gorgeous and sensual girls ever created and all without crossing some lines(mindbreak, etc) is what we have got from X3Z till date and that is what we expect in the future also.

PhoenixPrince

Про девушку. Синдори это или нет, тебе виднее, я честно говоря давно запутался в её версиях. XD Персонаж неплохой, выглядит симпатично и костюмчик прикольный. Ну и отдельный плюсик за прическу! Ну а что касается содержания... ну наверно кому-то и такое нравится, Бангфри например. Вообще, работая в коллективе, постоянно натыкаешься на несогласки и различное представление о результате. Тут либо отстаиваешь свою версию, либо соглашаешься с версией соавтора, ну или компромисс искать как-то.

M

Не стоит делать то что тебе не нравится! Иначе рискуешь быстро потерять интерес к любимому делу. По технике исполнения ... офигенно! И я чувствую прям таки отеческую ответственность, О_О ну это даже радует.

M

That's exactly what is missing from Heat. You have a heart, X3Z. There is no heart in this series. Just a lot of pain and way too much anal.

Planetfall

Would a3d accept this set? Its darker than their normal merchandise.

Jake theberge

Its one thing if the girl is a masochist, meaning she feels pleasure from painfull acts. It could be very sexy if you did it tastefully. Like a shot of a girl standing with her arms and legs held in a spread eagle pose with someone standing close buy with a wip. Not a bull whip, a small cat o nine tails, something can only draw blood with if you went out of your way to do it. She has some faint red marks on her back and ass, no bleeding. Add signs of arousal, wet pussy, happy look on her face. As long as she is shown to enjoy it and the acts aren't to crazy. Just a thought.

Jake theberge

Yes. Those scenes seemed the sexiest for me. Especially when she is pulled up against hIs chest in that standing pose. You could also see some pleasure in her eyes, i thought. I liked the first dp pose too.

Jake theberge

I'm not happy with this series, this could be better in many ways. An yeah, personally i don't like this kind of "action". Why i have done it? Because i have given a word some years ago. Can't say that this girl looks like Syndori for me, that makes things easy. But i don't think that i want hurt somebody for just no reason, even if it is fiction character.

X3Z

Render wise this is some of your best. Sydori is gorgeous. Some hot poses. The story... I only like forced sex when the girls is physically overwhelmed, brought to a point were she cums against their will. The more the better. And she should only be a willing particapent from the start or after a round of sexual torment, not being able to cum unless she gives blow jobs or other sex acts, blackmail maybe, that kind of thing. mind break like in this set speaks to the possibility that she has been damaged. The vacant eyed stare isn't very nice to look at really either. Maybe you could do a patreons only version that is more in line with your work. Give Syndori more pleasure filled looks on her face. Add signs of arousal, wetness on her cunt or their cocks. NO MINDBREAK. Or just go right to ED7. Poor Lorelei and Malia must need to cum badly at this point. There is nothing wrong with experiments. This kind of story, darker with rougher treatment could work with some more pleasure on the girls part.

Jake theberge

On a positive note, I did see on the end title credits that you posed scenes #6XX and #7XX for Heat. Those wide angles from behind with Syndori's shoes in the foreground are very cinematic, I love the energy and would love to see those types of shots in your future sets with Lorelei and the others. So sexy.

Planetfall

I agree with Jack and Planetfall. I like the randomness and I do personally prefer your style. Even though your stuff is sex with monsters, I enjoy the look of satisfaction on their faces! Keeping that in mind, I think of them being unwilling at first, but discovering pleasures they've never experienced. But I also don't really care for "the moment of true rape". . . To me, perhaps that is a bad outlook. . . Rape leaves a girl hurt and broken. Even in Rapefield, the girl finishes pleased. I definitely love that about your work! Personally, I feel you should go with your gut! If you feel it will help you to do random sequences such as this one, do so! Testing stuff helps make your work even better!

Cid

Honestly, I like your personal style better. I prefer your Syndori and her expressions. There is a lightness and fun to your work. Some of the poses are good here, and the skin is fantastic, but it's nothing that you haven't done already. I'm also deeply disturbed by Bangfri's comment that the goal of Heat was to emulate "the moment of true rape." I can only speak for myself, but I find that disgusting and would never support that kind of content.

Planetfall

Don't be afraid to experiment and explore new concepts.

Jack