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20:35 Yeah CC signed his own death warrant right there if it was me; I could forgive all of the other shit to that point but that earpiece sabotage just guaranteed I'm gonna need to kill him before moving on to anything else.
Casper Ghost
2025-02-17 01:10:46 +0000 UTC
I used to say “i respect your thoughts” and people had a similar response. So i am not sure what is bothering you exactly. I wrote longer to show i put some time into. But yes. I am avoiding the debate and acknowledging you dislike our take.
Rock Lee
2025-02-14 03:11:49 +0000 UTC
I am not trying to trigger anyone to laugh. I read your remarks and I have acknowledged you, shown respect via writing and chose not to challenge you or defend my stance. I also respect you and your point of view.
Rock Lee
2025-02-14 03:00:15 +0000 UTC
I've been watching you long enough Lee to know you are low key trying to trigger someone for a laugh. That passive aggressive/sarcastic stuff doesn't work on me. I'm not some child that can't share opinions and disagree civilized. I don't really see it as a messy topic. As black men who are/have been viewed as threats to America simply for being black and treated differently, kept down and violated in history even when we have done no wrong, I simply can't get behind Cecil's views. I do respect your thoughts as wild as I think they are.
Jordan Postle
2025-02-14 01:38:22 +0000 UTC
Hey Jordan. I hear you are unpleased with our opinions and i apologize for that. My stance is for the best interest of earth. Its a messy topic. So if im wrong. Im ready to be corrected and receive your point of view
Rock Lee
2025-02-14 01:22:32 +0000 UTC
Yup, Cecil threatened Mark long before Mark "threatened" Cecil. You can't tell someone you feel threatened by them when you're the one who literally implanted a device in their brain to cause them immense pain. Cecil is also literally taking away free will of those who oppose him and turning them into slaves. Sinclair and DarkWing are literal slaves now.
Jordan Postle
2025-02-14 00:57:27 +0000 UTC
Ya'll all crazy if you think Cecil is in the right and you would act different if you were Mark. Cecil implanting a device in Mark's head prior to all this is all the justification Mark needs and i need to side with him. Implied threat goes out the windows when you know you have a weapon implanted in that person's head. Cecil is literally taking free will away from. People and turning them into slaves. What are all Ya'll down for taking away freedom and enslaving people now?
Jordan Postle
2025-02-14 00:53:32 +0000 UTC
Gotta side with mark, he can't help that him existing is a threat, why should he be silent because he is powerful, he never intentionally hurt anyone on earth, there is no reason to believe he would hurt anyone, and has straight up saved it from omni man while also being the most valuable hero the planet has.
And he was rewarded by having a weapon planted in his head, and who knows what they'll do next, who knows what other weapons they have in their compound, why would mark ever "shut up and sit down" and do what cecil says again? Cecil is a huge risk to his and his families lives.
Killing reanimen is nothing, they're dead men, he was killing tax dollars. He was defending himself against cecil who decides to use force instead of ever talking anything out.
Cecil says "do everything I say without question or you'll never be a hero" and if anyone pushes against that theyre attacked until they submit. If im putting my life on the line for someone I want my voice to be heard, F that, especially if ive almost died several times fighting for earth and am expected to be on this guys beck and call.
The answer to "tell who about what cecil does", is all the superheroes, all of marks peers, who all seemed clueless on what cecil does.
I wonder if we will see any "rehabilitated supervillains" turn on cecil and cause more damage, cause being 4-4 seems unlikely
What he did could have radicalized mark and caused him to move further towards his dads side. Terrible play
Nate D.
2025-02-12 22:06:29 +0000 UTC
Exactly! I actually agree with most of what Cecil did, including the sonic device. But putting it inside Mark, presumably after either Anissa or Angstrom, is just way too far. Mark has shown time and again that he will risk his life to defend the Earth. If Cecil still doesn't trust him that's on Cecil. There's only so much Mark can do to change his mind. The fact Cecil was so quick to summon Reanimen against Mark after a disagreement is not only a betrayal, it is borderline stupid since he knows Mark will tear through. And following Mark and torturing him in front of The Guardians is so moronic it actually makes me question his intelligence and leadership abilities.
Adam Vialpando
2025-02-12 02:06:48 +0000 UTC
All of Cecil's actions escalated what started as heated disagreement into a battle that shattered Mark's trust in him as well as half of The Guardians' faith. He almost wants Mark to go rogue. Like when Mark returned from Thraxa and casually said he was sending agents to take Oliver. What, did he expect Mark to just say alright? It's one thing to be wary of a sleeping bear, it's another to poke it with a stick and get wary when it gets angry and attacks. I get people shouldn't be too trusting or too ethically rigid, but it's just as dangerous to trust absolutely nobody. Cecil's problem is he is so busy thinking about what might happen that he fails to take into account how things are. What's the point of planning for the 1% possibility if your actions mess up the possibility with the 99% chance of happening? What's the point of reforming villains if you alienate heroes?
Adam Vialpando
2025-02-12 01:56:43 +0000 UTC
Mark was emotional from being in a deadly fight and his blood was pumping and then he learns that some of his enemies are working for his boss. And I don't buy that 'Oh Cecil was scared for his life' line. This is the same man with a near-instantaneous teleporter, the same man who calmly talked to Omni-Man as he was actively trying to kill Cecil. And I'm supposed to believe he was afraid of Mark? We can all say how there was a chance that Mark could have hurt him, but let's be honest here. Until Cecil called the reanimen Mark was not going to attack. Mark was agitated for sure but he wasn't aggressive. And besides that what did Cecil think would happen? "Oh Mark is agitated and his trust is teetering. Let's summon a bunch of fighters that he can tear apart in seconds so he knows he shouldn't trust me. Let's activate the sonic device while we're at it to make Mark really hate me". I don't even mind Cecil has a weapon to use against Viltrumites and Mark. But implanting it in his head is too far. Mark trusted Cecil despite people like his mom warning him to be careful. And when did Cecil plant the device? It either happened after his fight with Anissa (where Mark nearly died because he didn't even wanna pretend to ally with Viltrum) or against Angstrom (where Mark was wracked with guilt after accidentally killing a man who nearly killed his family). I get having a last line of defense in case something happens to make Mark attack, but it has to be the last line. Cecil activated it purely to prove a point and keep Mark in line
Adam Vialpando
2025-02-12 01:49:39 +0000 UTC
The problem with Cecil is that he's logical, but the logic he uses changes depending on his goals. This fight has been a long time coming and it's all on Cecil. When Mark was beating himself up over his choices Cecil always reassures him that he is doing good and is not like his father. But when Mark does something he doesn't like, like going to Thraxa, he always says something like 'That's something your father would say'. And it's not just Mark. The way he always tries to guilt Debbie about Oliver and how he handled Donald when he found out he was an android. He tries to be logical about it without thinking about the emotional state of the other person and just comes off as dismissive and condescending. Which does not create trust. And the thing is that I actually agree with most decisions Cecil makes. Using Sinclair and Darkwing makes sense since locking them up won't undo their crimes and it's better to have them do good. And Mark is definitely a massive hypocrite. But Cecil handled the entire situation horribly. I'm actually shocked by his stupidity.
Adam Vialpando
2025-02-12 01:33:23 +0000 UTC
My biggest issue with Mark is that he is being a massive hypocrite, as Cecil said. Mark has worked with criminals before (Titan from season one), and has helped his father, the individual responsible for one of the largest scale mass killings that the US faced.
The difference I feel, is that the 2 people that Cecil has employed have directly impacted or opposed Mark or his friends and family. I feel like this shows that Cecil is right to be scared, Mark lets his emotions control him, he tends to choose feelings over logic. As a kind of bad example, but this can even be seen with how he treats his relationship with Eve. She asks for some time, just to be as friends for a while, but then shortly afterwards, he does an ultimatum that he feels this way, and that just being friends isn't enough for him. Or in that one bad timeline where he was working with his father and he crippled her so she would be with him.
Anyways, I am team Cecil here, Mark is too emotional and hypocritical for me.
Ziitania
2025-02-12 01:01:11 +0000 UTC
I wouldn’t want cecil as my leader for the simple fact that his version of the ends justify the means is just foolish. Mark is the best option against the superman army that is coming and all of his choices just ruined that relationship right before that threat arrives. Cecil needs to take a page from rudy. Cecil is so concerned about that 1% chance scenario that he ruined the 99%
jason ross
2025-02-11 23:23:54 +0000 UTC
and ur point about the 99% thing is valid too, at this point it’s just a matter of risk management tbh.
damned if you do, damned if you don’t
Sean J
2025-02-11 22:00:56 +0000 UTC
“ installing it in mark when he was at his most vulnerable is too far “
this is why i worded by question to be interpreted as if you were a civilian, not cecil, because if mark did go the omniman route, the victims of the deceased aren’t gonna care about any of that shit you just said
They would just rightfully blame cecil and the government for not doing what it takes to protect the country and world
i completelyyy understand what you’re saying personally, but, if i was a civilian in their world i swear to god i don’t care how cecil handles it, as long as we don’t get an Omniman slaughter part 2 im straight 😭
Sean J
2025-02-11 21:59:56 +0000 UTC
I’m going to come to marks defense here…guys Cecil literally just confirmed one of marks biggest fears, humans can never fully trust him also Cecil is making him more callous to humanity completely forgetting mark was beaten within an inch if his life for this planet, Cecil completely forgets how much mark holds back his strength because he is actually just a good person, you have to give trust to get trust and Cecil basically said i will never trust you because “your race is evil”…im not sure Cecil is in the right here😓
Reaper88
2025-02-11 21:59:05 +0000 UTC
The problem is though that Cecil isn't a random civilian. He knows Mark. He knows what Mark has done, what kind of man he is. Mark almost got killed by Anissa because even pretending to follow the Viltrumites was too much for him. I'm not against working with villains to do good things, I'm even fine with him having a counter to Viltrumites. But installing it in Mark when he was at his most vulnerable is too far. Cecil spends so much time thinking about what MIGHT happen that he fails to see things as they currently are. What's the point of planning for the 1% odds of something if you fuck up the the things that are 99% more likely.
Adam Vialpando
2025-02-11 21:51:32 +0000 UTC
Yes lol
Kiana
2025-02-11 21:46:35 +0000 UTC
Exactly. Cecil had a whole conversation with Omni-Man, who he knew for a fact wanted to kill everyone and was actively trying to kill Cecil, and kept his cool. Especially because he had a teleporter. You telling me he felt scared against Mark, a guy not as strong as Omni-Man and who has shown nothing but loyalty to Earth just because he MIGHT attack? And he still had his teleporter.
Adam Vialpando
2025-02-11 21:44:37 +0000 UTC
Does Cecil have reason to do this? Sure. But if I’m Mark I’m taking my loved ones and leaving Earth for the Viltrumites after this.
Vincent Lee
2025-02-11 20:32:06 +0000 UTC
I understand everything Cecil has done and agree with the precautions he's taken, but he handled that situation horribly.
I will never understand why he didn't just appease the the walking Nuke,or at least pretend that he is. Especially with everything mark has gone through to show he is on humanity's side.
Don't give me the he was scared bullshit, it's his job to handle this. Where did all the balls he had while talking to Omniman in person during the season 1 finale go.
CrazyCoconut
2025-02-11 20:25:27 +0000 UTC
I will say this though. It really isn’t a good idea when Mark was pissed but civil to just bring a bunch of those reanimates, have them physically restrain him and when he fights back turn a fucking screeching bomb in his head. I think we all kind of underestimating how painful and invasive that must feel to just suddenly collapse in pain. Which directly shows what Mark did after it was disarmed. A hot headed insanely powerful kid who just saw murderers be free, had his brain scrambled, got jumped would of course start geeking out when he free lol. Right or Wrong tho i feel for Mark. Mark a traumatized mfer lmao i feel for bro
Shakir
2025-02-11 20:13:44 +0000 UTC
See I think he was actually quite reasonable. He wanted Cecil to admit to people what he was doing. Samson said he broke into the pentagon but like...did he? Seems like he just went in. did he go in a little hot? 100% but Cecil doesn't seem to really think. "Oh We know theres a whole army of Nolans coming possibly even stronger than Nolan as he was sent here by higher ups... Lets pick a fight with the ONE dude who can MAYBE stand up to them.
Bryce Jackson
2025-02-11 17:50:36 +0000 UTC
another thing too, i strongly believe that any civilian in that world would be perfectly fine with Cecil’s methods if they knew. even if they feel as if it’s “ morally bad “, at the end of the day, they got families and friends and things they care about
the civilians in the world outside of marks friends/associates don’t know omni-man and mark personally
they can only know that we got Omni man and the son of the same person who killed thousands of people..
if that same event was to play out again but from mark this time what can Cecil say to the victims families and friends ?
Yea this 19yr old blood related family member from the man who could’ve initiated the holocaust part 2 simply told me,
“ trust me bro “
😂😂 like wuttt
Sean J
2025-02-11 17:20:06 +0000 UTC
Yea i think cecil chasing mark down and trying to capture him was way too far and it's a huge breach of trust and I wouldn't ever work with him after that either. I still think mark started it. The writing is really good cause they are both kinda wrong BUT one has godlike powers AND viltrum is coming. So I feel like one is a liiiiitle more wrong 🤣
Kami
2025-02-11 16:56:11 +0000 UTC
yep i remember, then somewhere after u got into training more, magnesium, boxing, and etc. the whole gang been looking better in comparison to older vids 🔥
salute to all of yall 🫡
Sean J
2025-02-11 16:55:22 +0000 UTC
I used to have an alcohol addiction. Lol. When I was overweight but yea. I don’t say inflammatory comments intentional I’m really looking for a peaceful experience when I come through and read the comment section it’s not perfect but I try
Rock Lee
2025-02-11 16:41:25 +0000 UTC
mm ok yea that’s understandable. was just curious cause i had thought like damn i don’t think i ever heard them be “ naw dis shit ASSS, don’t ask us to continue this shit no more “ 😂
& salute to u for being super active in the community
ur basically alton from snowfall, just without the alcohol addiction, crack, and bodies droppin around u 😭
Sean J
2025-02-11 16:35:44 +0000 UTC
Cecil fear of the possibility of mark turning into his father is a real possibility . That’s why I agree with him doing a contingency plan on mark. However Cecil did nothing to deescalate the situation at all. In fact he made it worse by not explaining anything to the guardians. By torturing and beating mark while he was down. Mark was not attacking anyone. Cecil still tortured him had those robots beating him up. I don’t blame mark for threatening him as he felt that his life was in danger from Cecil. Which for all intents and purposes it was. I mean Cecil did put a bomb in mark’s head and beat him while he was incapacitated. Sorry but I’m still Team mark on this.
Kiana
2025-02-11 16:30:27 +0000 UTC
I see
Sincerely, the Best.
2025-02-11 16:29:44 +0000 UTC
As always I follow the schedule as closely as possible and sometimes I make mistakes
Rock Lee
2025-02-11 16:26:15 +0000 UTC
I put my energy into talking about the things I like the most. And I think that’s healthy and then I attract people that are also excited about those things . I wouldn’t put energy into the things I dislike the most which triggers bad feelings and irritating fans of those products and having to listen to negative energy
Rock Lee
2025-02-11 16:15:13 +0000 UTC
Mark was being aggressive cecil was like chill out, mark kept getting closer. then he started slaughtering robots cecil STILL was calm and said chill out. THEN mark rushed him and only then did he use the sound on him. This 19 year old with the power of a god is in the pentagon being aggressive ordering cecil to put them in jail or he ain't leaving. That's scary lol I feel like cecil was VERY nice and gave many chances for it not to go that far.
Kami
2025-02-11 16:14:26 +0000 UTC
Mark had every right to defend himself, but he should be careful with how he present himself.
Kumi Chan
2025-02-11 16:10:38 +0000 UTC
I think Black Samson was the most level headed person. He understands Cecil might have went too far but also recognized Mark didn’t handle things properly.
Rudy/Robot also had a pretty logical approach and I ain’t mad at it.
Dirty_Oldman
2025-02-11 16:08:34 +0000 UTC
Mark is def not taking it seriously enough.
Kumi Chan
2025-02-11 16:05:55 +0000 UTC
Fr, rex is the 🐐
Kumi Chan
2025-02-11 16:04:56 +0000 UTC
Yall were spitting at the end discussion 🙂↕️
Kumi Chan
2025-02-11 16:04:31 +0000 UTC
I really enjoy Rex he is just keeps becoming a more likeable character.
Jesse
2025-02-11 15:57:52 +0000 UTC
Mark is a tsundere 😭
Kumi Chan
2025-02-11 15:54:55 +0000 UTC
Am I crazy for feeling like mark is not serious enough about the army of super men coming. Like bro. Use everyone and everything. Otherwise it's over anyway. 🥲
Kami
2025-02-11 15:46:27 +0000 UTC
Sorry Mark, I'm gonna side with Cecil.
Jerome
2025-02-11 15:43:27 +0000 UTC
1 curious random question if you don’t mind answering
ive seen a lot of reactions from diff shows from yall but only shit that i personally like a lot
has there been a live action series or anime that you or adorkable strongly didn’t rock with 😭 ?
cause for me something has to be god awful in all categories for me to really dislike it so im just curious what shows that might be for yall
Sean J
2025-02-11 15:38:16 +0000 UTC
Since this Invincible reaction was for yesterday r we getting another one today?
Sincerely, the Best.
2025-02-11 15:37:02 +0000 UTC
The funny thing is, Cecil doesn't seem to get also. He ordered the reanimen to be turned off yet still they continued to beat Mark. He could not control them as he thinks because D A sinclair does. Mark has a point in he can't be trusted and it shows in this. If the reanimen had turned off as soon as Cecil said to. Mark would not have gone all Omni man on them. But they didn't they continued to beat him. So he defended himself and Cecil has the gall to say its Marks fault for the mess.
Bryce Jackson
2025-02-11 15:13:02 +0000 UTC
I agree that Cecil is correct to have a contingency plan in place for mark in case he does go evil. However how things went down . I feel like it was mostly Cecil’s fault. Especially with the Guardians split. Mark has not only fought beside them but is also a friend to them. So them seeing him being tortured and beaten while incapacitated was by Cecil was not a good look on Cecil’s part. I don’t even blame mark for how he threatened Cecil. He thought that Cecil was going to kill him and he defended himself. And mark not working for him after that is fair in my opinion 🤷🏾♀️