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NEW VIDEO: Was Katara x Aang Any Good? | An Overdue Critique

NEW VIDEO: Was Katara x Aang Any Good? | An Overdue Critique

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I have always thought that the romance in avatar, like the comedy, was there as an entertaining sub plot to keep kids watching as they engage with the deeper themes of the show. As such, I wasn’t so concerned about the fact that one character got with another at the end. In fact, I recall being disappointed when the two of them finally get together at the end. :$ #nojudgementsplease . As much fun as Zuko and Katara would’ve been together, I think that would’ve distracted from the story. It would’ve been exciting, but that’s not the point, right?

Janet Rabinowitz

I really love this video and thank you for giving Kataang some love. One thing I did want to mention that I think (even you) miss about their love story is that the “love replacing grief” is just as true in this case for Katara as it is for Aang. Aang and Katara’s mom have multiple (in the show and in the comics) parallels that show him as a form of new love for her. From the very teen-cringe use of “sweetie” to the very direct parallel of him sacrificing himself for her in the face of the Fire Nation. I think that adds a lot of weight to her confusion/trepidation in S3 after watching him die.

Ryan Smith

This is interesting! I might have to do a rewatch w this in mind 🤔 - zutara enjoyer

Ruvi

I loved these videos. For years, I have really disliked the Zutara ship and shippers as a whole even to the point of getting mad when thinking or talking about them. However, your videos have helped me see it in a new light. No, I don't suddenly accept it, but I understand it. See, I realize now that most people don’t see themselves as Aang. However, I have. I was always pacifistic. I always took longer to mature than my peers. I enjoy being alive more than most and can find joy in almost anything. So I always associated with Aang as a person and his struggles in life. On top of that, I always enjoyed very positive, clean relationships. I can understand hot, steamy enemies-to-lovers, but I always preferred friends/partners-to-lovers probably because that’s how all my relationships have been, especially the one I am in now with my fiancé. To drive that point home even further: when we first met, she was unavailable, but I thought she was extremely beautiful. Then, one year later, after she was available, we started dating. When we first started dating, I had no real plans in my day-to-day outside of “enjoy life.” I still lived with my parents. I never even finished college. Whereas she finished college, had moved multiple times, is two years older than me, wanted to have a career in acting, and was more anti-social. She even has a harder time just being happy than most, suffering from depression and anxiety. Once we started dating, I supported her more in finding ways to make herself happy things like spending time with friends or not worrying about every little problem in life. In turn, she helped me grow as a person. I became more focused on growing learning things like how to drive, moving out of my parents' house, and being more organized. Just to name a few. This long essay of a comment is all here just to put my feelings to “paper” and, ultimately, to say thank you for helping me understand both sides and a deeper part of myself. Also, I now know that I am in the minority of people who associate with Aang as a character.

Zagard

I will add my two cents to the kataang side of things. As somebody that very much related to Katara, as the sister who became a sort of mini-mom and took on responsibility to that others could have fun, I always gravitated toward Kataang more. And while I agree there is a sort of maturity gap between Katara and Aang, I think it's very interesting that Aang is one of the few child characters not desperate for a mother. He didn't come from a culture where he experienced motherhood or feels at all that he is missing it. He absolutely bypasses Katara's typical interaction with people and gets right to the heart of who she is. And early on she's unprepared for it, so their interactions don't feel like they come on equal footing. But I don't view as an up and down needing to meet in the middle sort of maturity issue. They both have to make lateral moves outside of their comfort zone but into something more honest about themselves. Katara does not have to take on the whole weight of the world and that taking time to have fun will not doom everything; Aang similarly has to realize that he can share the weight of responsibility with others through meaningful connection rather than trying to dull it behind childishness.

SJ

Great video!

cacodaemonia

Shame this isn't on Youtube, so I could watch it on the TV with my wife.

Mercurius

Personally, I don't think Aang's romantic interest gets in the way of a better story. I think it only adds to his dynamic with Katara early on. It gives us another angle to their friendship. I do think though the romantic element challenged the A;TLA fanbase in ways that maybe are generally unrecommended. The romantic element asked fans to change how they saw Aang and how they saw Aang and Katara. The beginning of the show presented Aang as a goofy kid, and Aang and Katara with an almost family like dynamic. And I think a good number of fans really hated changing how they saw Aang, and Aang and Katara's dynamic. As a Kataang shipper though, I would push back on the fandom a bit and ask: What makes it harder to go from friends-close-like-family to romance than to go from hostile enemies to romance? This is something I do not understand. I feel like it should be easier to make the former transition than the latter, but I get the impression many disagree. I think this is the fundamental disagreement between fans of the friends-to-lovers trope and enemies-to-lovers trope.

PastAnalysis

Great video man! ^^ I've always been a huge fan of Kataang and I like how you touch on the shipping culture. As someone who's big into ships like Kataang that are more vanilla/based on friendship, I cannot help but be a bit annoyed with how ships like Kataang are always badmouthed. I think ships like Kataang are a lot more realistic and grounded. What makes ships like Zutara popular, the fact that there is so much conflict and tension, is also the reason ships like Zutara struggle a lot more in real life. I think the notion of "opposites attract" is very overestimated. What every relationship entails is a degree of sacrifice and the greater the extent of difference, the greater the need for sacrifice is. Aside from opposites attract, I also see Zutara as falling into the trope of an emotionally open girl with a serious emotionally turmoil guy. It's the "I can fix him" trope. And I honestly find this kind of trope to be a bit toxic for both parties involved. It usually ends up with the girl doing a lot of emotional labor for what seems like little gain. What I love about Kataang is that it is grounded in friendship first. They enjoy spending time with each other and, as you said, give each other something that the other person needs. Aang gives Katara the freedom to let loose and have fun whereas Katara gives Aang an anchor to talk to for difficult decisions. This comes up multiple times in the comics with The Promise where Aang has to decide what to do about the Fire Nation colonies and The Imbalance where Aang has to decide what to do about the bender supremacist movement. Comparitively, I don't think Zuko and Katara give each other much. After the Southern Raiders, I don't know what Zuko can give Katara in general that is healthy. He would help her open up about her rage more, which is only going to lead to more emotional distance between her and others. Was it healthy of Katara to tell Sokka "then you didn't love her like I did?" when referring to their mom? I'd argue no. That was unnecessary and frankly cruel. Katara gives something valuable to Zuko in that she gives him empathy and encouragement. So, in the end, I think Zutara gives one sided benefits. The last thing I want to add has to do with a complaint levied at Kataang which you mentioned, that it goes against the message of Guru Pathik. I think this criticism kind of misses the point of what Guru Pathik was trying to teach Aang. It was called the Thought Chakra and Guru Pathik was trying to tell Aang that letting go earthly attachments is not the same as letting go of love. Aang had to also open up the chakra that deals with love. The Thought Chakra is more about learning to move on from loss. It's comparable to someone moving on after losing a loved one. It doesn't mean you don't miss them or don't still love them. It only means that you're not dwelling in it, that you're allowing yourself to move on. Anywho, thank you for these two videos. I just wanted to share my thoughts. ^^

PastAnalysis

Hiiii ive been a zutara shipper since i was 12 and ill be So Fr: as a 12yr old girl, nothing was less appealing than a 12yr old boy XDD and that first impression stuck w me i think, but i Love the depth you give to both in examining them, still! I think the friendship angle Would've worked if it was more present outside romance? Their dynamic Before Aang's crush WAS fun and interesting. But i feel like their deeper connection was put on hold for the sake of romance tropes Very Early On that were never nessesary to tell their story? I can immagine a world where aang Didn't have a crush, but just Knew that he loved her (as a friend!!) and Still chose to save her over his duties as avatar, IF ANYTHING that would be even More thematically poignant for katara's character i think?? Katara's first friend outside her family teaching her to have fun and it's his friendship that saves her ???? Is that not more in line w the appeal of their relationship than say, A 12YR OLD DRAMATICALLY AND BOLDLY PROCLAIMING HIS UNDYING LOVE AND OH LETS KISS ON THE MOUTH ABOUT IT WAAAA It feels Cheap to me X'D The romance Actively gets in the way of a better story where they have a nuanced and interesting friendship. IN FACT the romance gets in the way of itself by being present too early on, when it didn't Need to be. I also just Like katara less when she's w aang? She's Such an interesting character but somehow i find that aang has a way of diminishing her passion??? And i just don't like that ???? Bc passion is so integral to who she is. ANYWAYS IVE TALKED FOR TOO LONG im Sure i havent said anything you didn't already gather from looking into fandom but that's my two cents anyway, i hope it wasn't Too Mean. And Re: zutara, man you wouldnt believe what the power of friendship can do. It's almost like NOT having a romance makes it easier to tell a story about grief and family and trust and friendship and legacy... but what do i know i was only the target audience at the time the show was airing lmao XDDD

Ruvi

Looks nice 👍

Miy Eterp


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