1.5 Release Update

This comment really struck me. Thank you for this! Hope you enjoy 1.5!

Meshed VR

I think Meshed fell asleep while the program was zipping, and wont wake up until tomorrow afternoon...

DJ

Awesome!

Mini Max

99%... :)

Meshed VR

94% - thanks for note - just added it for completeness sake: <a href="https://trello.com/c/hLIeRNQn" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://trello.com/c/hLIeRNQn</a>

Meshed VR

89% - my sleep last 3 nights: 3 hours, 3 hours, 3.5 hours

Meshed VR

I remember there was mention of new face morphs (created by a VaM user) too. Could not find this in Trello for V1.5 completed. Is it in?

Mini Max

84% - Yeah I'm seriously about to pass out.

Meshed VR

25 new face morphs. Brow/chin/cheek. Thanks to backer Ren for this.

Meshed VR

Did some new morphs end up in there as well? Think I remember some comments on that, but don't see anything on Trello.

74% - check out the trello board for more info on all the trigger items I have added (planned for 1.6). <a href="https://trello.com/b/LDlEpfvk/virt-a-mate-public-plans" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://trello.com/b/LDlEpfvk/virt-a-mate-public-plans</a>

Meshed VR

Me Too!

61% - A lot more trigger types and trigger action types planned for 1.6. I was only able to get in audio, light, and material actions.

Meshed VR

Dying to see what Creator's will do with triggers

Meshed VR

56%... 2.9GB - smaller than 1.4. I spent a lot of time optimizing assets.

Meshed VR

52%... :)

Meshed VR

50%...

Meshed VR

Uploading...

Meshed VR

<a href="https://youtu.be/oLuHWfOG4yM" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://youtu.be/oLuHWfOG4yM</a>

Status?

<a href="https://trello.com/c/5ePV0NqZ/386-rhythm-force-producer" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://trello.com/c/5ePV0NqZ/386-rhythm-force-producer</a>

RD

Drumroll please...

Icarus Unleashed

What exacty is beat detection? How does that work?

Cc

the silence before the storm ...

RS

Zipping up your pants...;)

Petter Hansen

oh dear god, beat detection made it in? :OOOOOOO

RD

Unleash the Kraken! Haha

eclypse

Ive been waiting for this :)

YAY

I was just returning from a bathroom break and zipping up. Thought you guys would like the status. :)

Meshed VR

I knew I sensed something. About 2 minutes ago I thought "Hmm, haven't checked on Meshed in a few days..." aaaand now I'll be hammering f5 for a bit :D

RD

Zipping...

Meshed VR

New ETA?

Cc

Dry ice machine is going, the dogs are all hung from the ceiling, blacklight strobe is charged up, monkeys are all mayonnaised up.

Gurn

Controllers charged...Leaving work early today...day off tomorrow...The timing is perfect.

Fry

My f5 key has never seen so much abuse since these past two updates...

Morgan

Its cool, friend

seconded, not a problem.

BRUH NO PROBLEM

OK - 1.5 is going to be shorter on built-in scenes (only 3 instead of usual 6) due to that bug setting me back many hours and me not wanting to delay any more.

Meshed VR

You are a rockstar.

Icarus Unleashed

YAY WE GETTIN IT

Bug found and fixed! I'm pretty sure that was the last bug. Now I have to recreate that scene I completely lost due to the bug!

Meshed VR

Updaaaaaaaate

In 1.4.1 I have been having the loading/ saving bug when I use the sync force atom. I know that you had already worked on this bug for the upcoming release. But one thing i noticed about this bug is that I could also not delete this atom once out had been added to a scene. Maybe this Is related, maybe not. I hope you get the much needed rest you deserve.

Update at 5 AM CST. No matter what time zone you're in, that's serious work ethic. Take your time, don't burn out, never rush anything. You're killing it. Leaps and bounds ahead of the rest of the pack. And thank you for everything you're doing for VR. It's a hobbyist's market right now, and a lot of what you're implementing will likely help define the path VR takes in the future. I have a feeling that a fair few of us aren't just paying for content here. Keep on crushin' it, and we'll keep funding it.

No rush for me Meshed, like most of us Ive not worked to anywhere near the potential of 1.41 ! Still so much fun and learning to be had from what we already have. Take the time YOU need, those of us who support you with not just a few bucks will still be here when YOU are ready.

I'm stuck on one last really horrific bug where VaM sometimes refuses to save after you spend tons of time making a scene. That has to be the worst as you lose all your effort. I'm once again out of juice, so I need to get some Zzzzs and with some fresh eyes hopefully I can root it out.

Meshed VR

Bwah ha ha ha! It’s funny because we are all thinking the same thing. I guess it doesn’t hurt to ask, but for the sake of an expedient release, let’s hope he doesn’t answer. 😜

Mo Staff

Sorry, not trying to rush you but just wondering if it will be released within the hour before I hit the sack?

eclypse

99 bugs in the code on the screen, 99 bugs of code, take one down, patch it up, 132 bugs in the code... sigh... lol

AWWalker

Gona need another cup of coffee :)

eclypse

lol. Thanks everyone. No danger of burnout. I might take a 2-day nap after this, but I'll be back. There is so much more I want to do with this and I find the work both challenging and fun. It is the best job I have ever had! So thank you for your ongoing support. As for ETA - it sure looks like sometime tonight. All the tearup and restructure I did to make the project more efficient to work on led to more short-term work and bug fixes than usual, but I'm confident it will make me more efficient going forward.

Meshed VR

Thank you for paying for all the coffee to keep me going! :)

Meshed VR

One is more prone to burning out if they keep thinking about burning out. By constantly saying “don’t burn out don’t burnout” you’re constantly putting it in his head! You guys are doing more damage than good!

Cc

The man is an adult everyone! How many people are going to repeat the same thing?? He will work when he wants and rest when he wants, he knows what his body needs, and has anyone thought that maybe it’s a bit condescending to treat him like a child that needs a curfew? Damn man. Support the man, don’t tell him what to do and make him feel shitty for his decisions by constantly bringing it up. Jesus.

Cc

Please don't push to burnout... I've done that in the past and it doesn't do any good for the project (or for you ;) ). Do what you need to... and take care of yourself as well. We need you healthy for the long run to final product :)

Icarus Unleashed

This guys work ethic man.... geez, gonna be honest I rarely support projects for long.... was only planning on 3 months but that was like 5 months ago lol this guys commitment to his project made me stay, if anything to help see him the end so he can sleep.

Definitely do, why even say that, why punish yourself and everybody...

Cc

Yes we do :p

VR Fan

Might as well release it Friday when you know you've got every checkbox ticked. Plus does anyone really have time to play this during the week?? Lucky bastards lol

oppaidrop

Relax, take your time, don't burn yourself out. You've got all of us behind you

We support you bro. Nuff said. Excellent job and dedication.

Joshua R Dodson

Don't worry meshed, you are doing awesome work and everyone can and should wait.

No problem, mang. One more day wont hurt. I know it will be worth the wait!

Fry

Running out of steam, and it looks like I have quite a few more hours of work left. I had a list of 11 items to complete today, and after about 20 hours of work with only a few breaks I have completed 9, and I'm down to the last 2. Then there is a little bit of scene work, build and package process, upload, notes, etc. So I will take another day to get it out. Sorry all. This ended up being a huge feature build with a lot of new code to test.

Meshed VR

Looking forward to the 2D mode most, it will make customizing characters so much easier especially when working from a reference image.

GT Scenes

Damn.. got the shaft from the wife and thought oh well, 1.5 should be here! Opps..

eclypse

1.5 ComeCome! HotHot!! ShotShot!!!

Don't rush yourself just so you have to release a hotfix shortly after :)

Penumbraa

Don't break your keyboards on refresh! It is going to be another all-nighter for me here. My best guess is about 15 hours from now, which would be around 11:59pm on the 6th in Hawaii. :)

Meshed VR

This is somewhat remedied in 1.5. The issue was only newest skin has the right settings. Now all have the same settings.

Meshed VR

I think we're going to get an email when there is an update. But pressing the refresh button is so much fun....

You know I dont think ive camped any webpage this hard... is it the 6th yet?!?! :D Keep up the good work Meshed. Loving the direction! Wish I could give you more man!!! Much loves

Whether the shape of the pubis is too sharp to correct when the legs are lifted.

Future release should have import feature, but if you want to send me some static models you would like to see included, send them on to me and I'll see if they can fit into VaM. I have 3ds Max, or I can import .obj directly into Unity.

Meshed VR

I'm a 3d modeler I use Maya,Max and Houdini I would love to contribute any non human objects and sets.

I'm still sticking by my initial 1 week delay, which would put it at the 6th.

Meshed VR

You need to get the WMR app for SteamVR and run it through SteamVR at the moment (see my previous post about currently no native WMR support).

Tim Jones

Any rough ETA on release? Next week??

(sorry for replying an irrelevanton on this post, but I cant find the message button QQ.) Excuse me, I've download the windows MR version and I'm using windows MR, but I'm not sure about how to open it with the MR, every time I clicked the game, and it tells me to put on my VR glasses,but after i put it on, I just go into the MR room and cannot switch to this game in the MR mode, is there any way to solve this problem? like the way to open this game in windows MR or something? Thanks :)

I have both. I'll let you know once I have 1.5 complete.

Meshed VR

Does anyone here have both WMR and Vive? I am wondering how much performance is lost in WMR by going through SteamVR. I've requested Meshed for native WMR support, but am curious as to just how much performance (FPS) is lost by not having native support.

Tim Jones

I highly doubt any of your supporters will complain about the delay. You are obviously very committed to this project. We are very committed to supporting you. Don't stress out. This project is a pure gold mine. We all know it.

Thank you! I do not like delaying and I think monthly releases make the most sense given the Patreon model. I'm still striving for that. I hope delays are occasional and not normal.

Meshed VR

This delay doesn't bother me one bit. You've done an amazing job. You've done a great job in updating us and your program is by far the best one I'm currently supporting.

Wow - thank you!

Meshed VR

I'll take a look at it in 1.6, as well as Vive Tracker support as that has been a hot item request. One thing I know that will be issue is the web browser plugin I'm using does not support native windows app at this time, so none of the *Web* Atom objects will work. It also looks like Unity's WMR support is still in early stages. I do have Samsung WMR device to test with.

Meshed VR

Thank you! I won't make you wait that long. It is much closer to being done now!

Meshed VR

Thank you! More programming/logic features coming in future releases!

Meshed VR

I'm working on it. Takes some time!

Meshed VR

Anyone here watch The Wire? Or have seen crackheads going nuts waiting for their fix? I never understood that. Until now. I can't wait for that sweet sweet 1.5 comes out. But seriously, I am so happy that you are dedicated to getting things right over rushed. You're dedicated, talent, and mastery of V.R. already shows in even the earliest releases.

Sean Mic

When will you have native WMR support? I find that running through SteamVR I lose a lot of performance. Some of the more complex scenes have unplayable frame rates, even though I have an i7 8700K, 32GB RAM, GTX 1080Ti system.

Tim Jones

I'd wait two weeks, three weeks, idc at this point, its a amazing product.

Gzilla

as a coder, some of those features / updates are very satisfying. Keep up the good work and don't forget to enjoy yourself :)

Really hope that you can eventually put together a team

Joshua R Dodson

Yeah you will need to upgrade the new Vibromator to get the most out of it. But you'll feel very proud once you unlock it to level 11!

Meshed VR

I'm going to move back to smaller updates. It is just that I have been working on big things. The new trigger system and audio features are pretty huge and complex. Could I release now without these? Yes, but they are so close to working perfectly I thought slight delay was better. This month might just end up seeing 2 releases due to this. 1.6 would obviously be much smaller.

Meshed VR

Are we moving to every-other month releases? Looks like a big update. Not to be a critic, but another project kept going longer and longer between updates and I'm a little worried that's the direction here. That's all your call, just wondering. I'd much prefer smaller updates every month.. Not trying to overwork ya, just my 2 cents (or 8 bucks) hehe All that said, 100% supporting the project, for a level I've never done before. Do what you need to do, just my input :)

Patron

yeah whats next, lootboxes ? .... just joking, take your time =)

stef Ucks

Its all good

Ztreak

I recall Mesh saying that higher resolutions are no problem for the program. Unity renders in whatever resolution the headset is. I suspect your framerate will suffer, though.

DJ

Take whatever time ya needs!

Questions for everyone. How are 4K and up vr headsets? I was looking once to the Pimax 8k and that sounds pretty awesome... but like, can it use oculus sensors and touch, do they come with their own stuff? Is it a pain in the ass to install? Any info would be great

Cc

A possible longshot. More likely 1.6

Meshed VR

Character scaling still on 1.5 docket?

Spacepal

Too many emotions, I just can't... "sniffle" You're still awesome though.

Hey Meshed, great to hear from you, thanks for giving us an update. Just try to manage your time, maybe it's better to have less ambitious plans and give yourself a bit of a buffer every month so you can finish things on time and if you still have couple extra days you can surprise people with bonus content instead of doing all-nighters at the end of each month :)

Thanks Meshed, still super awesome! Things need time, take the time you need.

Gerd Mullah

Sorry Dave! I'll make it up to ya!

Meshed VR

No, VaM is VR app first and foremost!

Meshed VR

3000 bakers and no cakes? You’re really letting us down Meshed.

Does keyboard/mouse/monitor support mean that VR support will degrade to a second thought? I hope not!

Mini Max

Yep! That is exactly what it means! Not quite fully functional. You can't for instance easily move nodes around or select them without using the new quick select option.

Meshed VR

I was reading 10 times that sentence about the option mouse/keyboard/monitor to see if I was understanding ... does it really mean we will be able to use VAM *without* VR when 1.5 is out? That would be a lot nice and promising for next evolutions.

keycode

Actually, yes! Haha can be a fun prop!

Joshua R Dodson

bag of dicks - is that a feature request?

Meshed VR

Triple, freakin', A game developers push back games with crews of HUNDREDS....and you're here complaining about one person who doesn't want to push something they find unsatisfactory? Come on dude...

Ummm... eat a bag of dicks bro. He knows that already. You don't need to tell him that.

Joshua R Dodson

I had another options. You can't always delay the release each time. It's unfair for the most backers. You shall manager your job carefully and should release one version whatever you had done. We support your project not only for love. It's still a sale and buy. We buy your works and your dreams and i hate the delay. I love your work but you had to know you had got over 3000 bakers now so you shall take the responsibility for you project.

3dbob

Thank you! I spend a lot of time thinking about how to enable community with creative multiplying features. It is exciting for me to watch what people make in VaM!

Meshed VR

Thank you!

Meshed VR

I really appreciate everyone's patience. This stuff usually doesn't come together quite as planned!

Meshed VR

I'm glad you all understand! Thank you!

Meshed VR

Thank you!

Meshed VR

This might not make 1.5, but triggers can control just about any parameter that can be saved in the json files. :) So basically animation of parameters: <a href="https://trello.com/c/PHDWApir" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://trello.com/c/PHDWApir</a> Or you can set up colliders in the scene that control parametrs. It will be a huge creative multiplier! :)

Meshed VR

You really are breaking ground into a new frontier. Very excited to watch the progress!

Great upcoming features Meshed, how awesome! Take as much time as you need, I love your vision for the game and how it is evolving. What will be the basic trigger functionality of the triggers beyond audio?

RossNutkinChan

Most of them are on <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/VAMscenes/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://www.reddit.com/r/VAMscenes/</a>

where do i download the custom scenes people make ?

matthew b

Take your time, buddy! We expect nothing less than perfection. And that takes time. Keep rocking! We're some patient folks.

DerIngenieur

UI scale issues have been fixed when you use world scale slider, but character scaling is still not yet complete: <a href="https://trello.com/c/e27fzpST" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://trello.com/c/e27fzpST</a>

Meshed VR

will scale been implemented to the next update ?

You can already disable soft-body physics in User Preferences tab. This is 90% of the performance issue in Physx. You can't turn off all Physx as that is what Unity uses for its physics engine. Turning it off would be no collisions and no natural joint movements/springs/etc.

Meshed VR

Audio 1.0 has the following. New AudioSource Atom. You can place anywhere and it has many adjustable parameters. Then there is Trigger system. One type of trigger is collision. Another is animation timeline trigger. Both of these can trigger sounds to play on specific AudioSource. Person atoms will have built-in AudioSource on the Head controller and place around mouth area. Included will be a bank of sounds to play with. Also possible is selecting audio from a URL. This allows custom audio banks. The Triggers will also support more than playing Audio, although I'm not sure I'll get all the options in for that into 1.5.

Meshed VR

You rock man. No worries!

Mo Staff

Wait does that mean you’re not adding audio or you’re saying that’s the reason it’s pushed back? Also i was bit confused with the audio update. Is 1.0 going to have sound effects or is it only audio for the web browser?

Cc

Will PhysX toggle be available on this release? &amp; Thanks for extra person atoms.

Thank you Meshed VR for all your hard work. You are doing a great job. Keep up the good work!

Keep up the good work. I know it's hard when you have to make that call -- quality versus time -- and I can't tell you how many times as a developer that my boss or the folks in product management chose time... and then later came to me complaining about quality ;) I'm very excited for this update and very glad you're doing it the right way.

Icarus Unleashed

Yes!

Meshed VR

Does this mean VAM will be usable without a VR headset?

Joshua R Dodson