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Bear with me, this is primarily in the name of science🧢👀... Pretend you don't know these men and their personalities. unbiased and without your personal preference...Which of these men is more attractive?

I know judging attractiveness off looks alone isn't what matters. ,
So for context, last night my wife, a friend, and I made dinner and were watching "how to get away with Murder".. and a scene with Charlie came up, and I was like 'damn that's a fine ass man'. To wish my wife and our friend (a guy) didn't seem to agree that he was all that cute. At least not over the top.

The conversation then went into the attractiveness of white men in general. Obviously, no offense intended. Trust me, I hate to use the fucking '1 to 10 scale' because I think it's stupid, but for this, we had to. They said Charlie was a 7 and I was flabbergasted. And I was like if he's a 7, I want to see what y'all consider a 10. Trust me it was a funny back and forth.. My wife pulled up a picture of Pedro and said he was a 30 out of 10. (she absolutely loves Pedro by the way).. Our friend and I agreed that ain't no way Pedro is more attractive than Charlie. At this point in the fun argument, we agreed to just be objective without bias.
 
I know I know being objective here is just based on Western beauty standards. But we're talking about caucasian men after all. Bias or not my wife stood on 10 toes saying Pedro is still the best looking. She even put a poll on Instagram for people to decide lol.. So as usual, I'm coming to yall my other friends to ask for your opinion. This conversation was too funny to just keep with us😂 Remember no personal bias!

Bear with me, this is primarily in the name of science🧢👀... Pretend you don't know these men and their personalities. unbiased and without your personal preference...Which of these men is more attractive?

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Listen, I know this is an old post, but I still wanted to put in my vote because this is something I have also talked about with friends. Charlie is one of those guys that does n o t h i n g for me. Sure, he has an objectively Western beauty standards face, but to me... It's like watching paint dry. Blank canvas. There are a number of celebrities that I know many women fawn over but make me shrug, and this guy would definitely go on that list. Mind you, this is coming from someone whose mother once described her taste in men as "skinny guys who talk really fast", so... Pinch of salt. I would swipe right on both John and Pedro, but in those pictures, Pedro definitely looks more like... A person, if that makes sense. Not a perfect doll, but a guy with a personality. Infinitely more attractive! (I'll also second the safety comments that others have left below. I feel safe with a Pedro.)

Yara Kaas

Labeling Pedro as a "white man" is funny since he's South American but anyways, a lot of women seem to go for that look, even more so now that the white man is considered "evil" 😂 but bottom line it all goes down to personal preferences, what some might consider attractive others won't n vice-versa, ofc there's an average of beauty I'd say but it's somewhat measured by preferences still.

Dan C

Pedro all the way!

Melissa Sanchez

Just judging by looks without taking personalities or vibes into account, I would say Charlie is the most handsome. But even just the smile on Pedro's face in the picture makes him the most appealing lol.

Rie

I think Charlie is the most conventionally attractive but he does absolutely nothing for me. So for myself i would rank Pedro the highest. Personality supercedes everything in my opinion. It can add or subtract points.

Cora Burchak

Charlie wins on looks alone. But total package is Pedro. I especially adore his personality with its oddball charm and seemingly unending sunniness! John? Sorry but that’s a big no from me, dawg 😂

Gen Be

Pedro all day, it’s the smile. He exudes a goofy, sexy, charisma when he smiles. Now your post is just about looks but for me, it’s always more than looks, personality makes a huge difference in attractiveness in men and women IMO.

Izanne

Interesting take! I've also observed that men will seem to find other men with more "masculine" traits attractive - guys that are jacked and intimidating, for instance.

Daria B.

I think it comes down to the styling, and the personality that shines through that. Woman here, and it's definitely Pedro...the full smile and tousled hair lets his personality shine through and makes him look interesting. I thought John Krasinski was a hottie in his Office days, def had a crush on him back then. Never heard of the Charlie guy XD.

Daria B.

Charlie seems more “conventionally attractive” but I feel Pedro is more good looking.. it’s the smiling. John is cute but without personality to carry him, he does match up to Pedro.

Alejandra

Pedro, baby ❤️

Helene Ring Teppan

Trying to keep it neutral and not start anything on your chat 😆

Amanda Winstead

"then lots and lots of space" 😂😂😂

Franklin

that's true. I was just making sure I used the exact pictures that my wife and I were discussing about. The smile does a lot for sure

Franklin

First comment and I absolutely loved it haha

Franklin

damn! love this

Franklin

preach!!!

Franklin

ayoooo "I would find unpleasant" 😂

Franklin

😂😂😂

Franklin

Even judging from the pics only — let's say if I was swiping on a dating app — it's definitely Pedro >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John >> Charlie. With Charlie, he comes off a little "mean" or cold looking which is actually off putting. Pedro somehow exudes charm and charisma.

larme bleue

def Pedro!

Jazzie

Pedro Pascal is the only correct answer

Sarah Wevers

I like Pedro, mostly due to what I've seen of him. (Go Youtube and watch when he hosted SNL, he's hilarious and breaks character a lot.) But watching How to get Away with Murder again, Frank is sexy. John does nothing for me.

Sharon Leggett

Oh no! You've further fueled my obsession 😭 😆

Alva

Probably John

The World Through Stories

Pedro (it’s the smile)

N

1000% with you on Hugh Dancy as Will Graham! Bonus, in person he is humble, sweet to his fans, and his British accent will make you melt.

CatsEyeWatching

No? He is very much white, likely has indigenous roots like most Latinos but that doesn't make him a person of color at all.

MoonRay

Funnily enough, I don't know who Charlie is, so only the looks would count for me and I will still find Pedro better looking. I thought that the first time I saw him and I didn't even know who he was. Pedro >>> Charlie > John

MoonRay

Y’all, no matter what pics you present, it’s a tie between George Clooney and Idris Elba. That’s science.

Susan B

Yes, this. Attractiveness is about so much more than symmetrical features. If all three of these men were just faces to us, and we had no idea of how they speak, move, grin, laugh, cry, it would be like choosing a hat model. 😊 “That one seems to have the right head shape to show off a fedora,” we’d say, but would there be an attraction? I don’t think so.

Susan B

Charlie, Pedro close behind, then John like…around the block (sorry to that man)

LexLuthor3275

He was so very Oberyn Martell.

Susan B

I’d say based on first glance and purely looks, for me it’s Charlie. But factor in personality it’s John, 100% all the way, every day and twice on Sunday.

Gabriela Popescu

This will sound like a lie, but when determining what I find attractive, I can’t separate a man’s looks from his wit, his intelligence and the way he speaks. By a strict standard of facial symmetry and generic handsomeness, most clothing models are a 10. That doesn’t mean much to me. Pedro. Because that grin.

Susan B

Oh, he was Oberyn Martell? That changes everything!!! Okay, Frank tricked us with a bad picture. 😄

Myra

For me it's John, but only because I don't think that's the best picture of Pedro. There are pictures of Pedro as Oberyn Martell that I think anyone outside of maybe Idris Elba would have a hard time beating. They're all 10s imo though. If Charlie's a 7, an average man who takes care of himself is like a -1000 or something. For instance, where is Tom Hanks on a scale of 1-10?

Calbah

Pedro for me. I find his smile more inviting which n turn makes him more attractive.

Ayo Bee

Compared with these three men, Frank is the most attractive. By far and especially because of the smile and the eyes.❤️

Myra

If we're talking "you don't have to talk, hun, just look pretty" (which is horrid, but IF we're talking that) then Charlie. However...on first glance, who do I want to spend time with? Pedro. He's smiling. :) And something about his face says "Hey, do you wanna go cliff diving with me?" and....yeah, sure. I'll watch, at least. Sounds fun! lol

Jessi

As a (somewhat) straight woman, Charlie just looks vaguely threatening to me - hence not particularly "attractive". I will say that I think it has a lot to do with male/female gaze. From talking about this with friends and observing media, I've come to find that a lot of "straight men" will call men beautiful that "gay men" would also find attractive. For women there's simply a different perspective. Broadly speaking, of course. Just something I've come across also, and find fascinating.

Nina Lenz

charlie

Rochella Duijs

For me it goes Pedro, John and then Charlie.

Catherine Thurmond

Pedro for me by a mile. Honestly, it’s vibes.

Ledgedancer

I think Pedro is the hottest personally - he's both handsome and warm but I had a big crush on Charlie when HTGAWM was airing, I thought he was sooo attractive - until he shaved his beard off in a later season and left me DEVASTATED So I guess it goes; 1. Pedro, 2. Charlie with the beard, 3. John with the beard, 4. John without the beard, 5. Charlie without the beard.

Wanzi

😄 Charlie is the most handsome. The faces of John and Pedro are not that attractive, but Pedro has a warm appearence and seems to be a friendly person. But all three are far away from all the characters of IWTV. 😜

Myra

Charlie has objectively attractive features: piercing eyes, square-ish jaw etc. but Pedro Pascal is just way hotter imo. Not only as physical features but just in general the charm he exudes even from the photo is palpable. I can't look at anyone else. John is cute but just based on these photos, I'd put him on third.

Celes

Pedro. He's smiling for starters. Looks friendly and approachable

Gail Seaton Humbert

It's Pedro - it's so warm and he wears it on his face. I'm not even in to men but those other two don't seem like they laugh enough.

Sy

💯

Melissa

Yesss on the politics comment! I couldn't put a finger on it, and that's exacty it!

Melissa

I'm glad I'm not the only one.

Ally.C

I think it's because Pedro seems happier and warmer, and that makes women feel safer.

Singing Wordwright

Your wife is right. Give me a lineup of men with roughly the same physical attributes, and I'll choose the one with the most smile lines, every time.

Singing Wordwright

John

Holly Robertson

Not thinking of any of their work and only looking at these photos, I’d still rate Pedro first. Not only is he handsome he just looks warmer and more genuine. Pedro 9/10, Charlie 8/10, John 7/10 (the beards are giving them a couple extra points fyi)

Rebecca C

I genuinely don’t off the top of my head know any of their work (I’m bad at placing faces/knowing actors names.) I’d say Pedro is the most attractive to me, the other two look like the typical vague Hollywood white guy face I would lose in a crowd. Pedro looks more distinct to me, which is inherently more attractive in my eyes. Plus, hair is a big deal for me. Pedro has curly hair and doesn’t have a boring haircut. (Gay man btw, if that matters)

LORT

John, but only when he has a beard

The Existential Shrew

I have to agree with your wife, Pedro all the way. John and Charlie, although very attractive, are not even close for me 😂. But to be honest, I feel like I’ve seen a lot more movies with Pedro, which probably makes me biased. Also I don’t know about others, but among my friends women prefer Pedro, while men think Charlie is the most attractive 🤷🏻‍♀️

Altynay Abisheva

Pedro. Him in the Last of Us and Game of Thrones? yeah...

Apai

Haha, what an interesting discussion 😂 for me, person’s attractiveness comes down to much more than looks, like the way they speak, move etc. etc. but if thinking about looks alone now, I agree with many here that while Charlie is certainly good looking or handsome in a traditional way, it’s somehow in a boring way. I’m also personally more likely to like brown/dark eyes than blue, so also for that reason he would be the least attractive for me from this list. Pedro just has quite a lot of charm even if you try to look at the picture alone, so he would be nro 1

Sruppa

Definitely Charlie, whenever I watch How To Get Away with Murder I keep thinking about how hot he looks lol (even though if we’re talking about this show in particular I’d say that Jack Falahee is the most attractive)

elena

Charlie and it’s very clear 😂 out of these choices. But my white boys of the month are consistently- Mads Mikkelsen, Sam Reid, Nicholas Galitzine, Taylor Zakar Perez (I know he’s biracial idc he gave white when I first saw him) and Dylan O’Brien.

icedchy

Charlie. Which throws me since I couldn't STAND him in Buffy. Every time I see him in HTGAWM, it's jarring when I remember it's the same person. What a glow-up!

Qiana Hill

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Marcia

I absolutely don't understand the Pedro Pascal hype. He is a nice looking man but I don't get it. Without bias I am picking Charlie 1st, John 2nd and Pedro 3rd

Marcia

I think objectively (if that's even possible in discussions like these), Charlie has the most classically handsome face, but personally I find people with dark hair and dark eyes always more attractive, and even if I didn't know Pedro's personality beforehand he looks more approachable from pictures. I don't vibe with John at all.

Sólveig

Oof yeah with bias I'd pick Pedro lol but I think if I didn't know any of these men and just based it on pics I'd pick John because he looks the most approachable and nice, with a good balance of traditionally attractive features (my past with being bullied by white boys in school def effected this lol but can only be so objective)

Spree

Loving this discussion! So much goes into attractiveness, also depends on the gazers age, background, what's currently happening in their life...but because I love this discussion I think I'll go with John. I can't really separate his picture from what I've seen him in though, and since I've not seen him play a villain, that could be why. 🤷

Fetid Moppet

John 7/10 -- Charlie 8/10 -- Pedro 6/10 Though who I currently chase about as the hottest guy right now is Idris Elba.

Moon Brooke

Pedro takes it for me! He looks really manly and ruggedly handsome. Charlie’s a little more conventionally attractive, which has never been as attractive to me as someone with a uniquely beautiful look. Pedro stands out. And he’s more daddyish too lol

Rigo

For me it's close between John and Pedro. If we include personalities, it's Pedro. Although, since I started watching Hannibal with you, I have developed the opinion that Will Graham (Hugh Dancy) is so attractive it hurts. I'm obsessed. Like, I need that man in front of my eyes 24/7.

Alva

Or JENSEN ACKLES?? *faints* 🤣

Indi500

Based on looks alone, Charlie is definitely #1 based on that photo. In general, though, he looks like an average guy. Pedro #2 because I find his face very ...masculine? He's what I would call handsome. Followed by John, who I think is nice looking, esp with a beard. Now, if you had shown me a picture of Lee Pace? My God. 🥵

Indi500

This, none of the above based on photos alone, personality and context gives looks a boost I believe. Still team Pedro, but I can't divorce him from his personality 😬

AngryGreen

I totally agree. I'm the same, depending on how much I like a person, they become either less or more attractive to me..

Maria

None of these men is what I would consider attractive. My personal pick for the most attractive white man there is would be David Tennant.

Siri Pinchot

Okay, true. One of the, like, 3 blonde men I’d rate a 10.

lita

Oh, and since other people are sharing their top dudes: Sam Reid in his current long hair era is the most attractive man I've ever seen. He has completely blasted everyone else out of the water. It's like he was precisely designed for my aesthetics.

Amanda Winstead

Update: I have now googled enough to identify Charlie, and I think he is very mid. Obviously in real life he would be attractive compared to all the normal people, but in the realm of celebrities his face doesn't stand out to me at all. Perhaps he has charisma in motion/ in character, but I don't see it in Google Images.

Leticia

It’s like the School of Athens in these comments haha

lita

Pedro Pedro Pedro

Nyfe of closegood

I'm probably an outlier, but of these three pics I would have to go with John. Pedro looks like the most fun though. Charlie looks like someone whose politics I would find unpleasant 👀

Amanda Winstead

Another white man who is a 10 for me is Bill Skarsgard, by the way, and I’m not even into blondes generally. 😂

lita

Pedro looks like he gives good, solid hugs. Team Pedro!

Janeka Rector

I think Charlie aged like fine wine, and I love him with a buzzcut but I don't like his hair on the picture you chose lmao, and I agree with what some others have said, I think Pedro just has the X factor cause he is so charming

Tara.

Charlie

Carla Davis

So I don't know who Charlie is, and I suspect that's not the best photo of him, but I do think he's objectively the least attractive among those three. His hair styled like that doesn't do it for me at all, and based purely on that one facial expression he looks like he's about to say something patronising. The others are smiling and looking at the camera, which gives them an edge. I would agree with your wife that Pedro is the most attractive of the three, but I do find it hard to exclude my existing knowledge of him being attractive entirely. I've tried my best, but I do know that he's hot and I can't unknow it.

Leticia

DONT GET ME STARTED ON FRANK DILFino 😭🙏

alex !!

See, this is very interesting, because for me, physical attractiveness actually *changes*, like physically changes, depending on how their personality is. Most people talk about it like "their personality is what you notice ~instead~", but for me it affects the physical quite tangibly! For example, years ago I was single and got hired on a new company to translate medical records. And I met two men. The first man was a fellow translator: kinda short, round face, very "typically Spanish" looking, dark hair, dark eyes, olive complexion, classic Andalusian. The other guy was our software trainer: tall, lithe, with dark hair and blue eyes, and cheekbones that could cut glass. At first sight, I considered the software guy incredibly attractive, and the fellow translator as just your normal guy. Over the days in training, the software guy was stuck-up, classist, kinda mean, while my fellow translator was always kind, funny, cultured and still curious. So... I started noticing how software guy's eyes were actually very small, and his beard was too short, and his hands were always red, and his jeans weren't flattering, and he physically became uglier to me. While I started noticing that the fellow translator had really beautiful kind eyes, and his smile made cute crinkles in his nose, and he always smelled nice, and his hair was almost blue and shiny... People's personality physically changes how I see them! So, from those pictures, yes, Charlie is incredibly attractive, probably the most polished of the three, but Pedro's charm shines on his face!

Lola Lirola

Not really into guys but I'm gonna say Pedro because I like his hair. If personality were a factor I'd still say Pedro for being a big LGBTQ+ ally. That said everyone has different preferences, it'd be boring if everyone liked the same things.

X Jae

I can't say I find any of them that attractive going off those photos alone. Pedro's got a great smile though so i'd prob say him. Are we free to suggest other attractive caucasian men - if so, Austin Butler and Sam Reid (with long hair 😄) these days, but no-one beat Johnny Depp in the 90s or 00s.

Kim D

It makes sense that his nationality / accent would play into it. I was asking because I think that in Europe he would be seen as white (you know, generically southern European) so I was curious. Thank you for responding!

lita

UPDATE: my wife is living for this comment section right now😂😂

Franklin

For me Charlie is the most attractive out of these three! But I acknowledge that there are certain features that just work for me. All of them are objectively good looking.

Michaela B

I think he’s what we’d call “white-passing” but he is legitimately considered a person of color.

Amanda Hill

Literally my first time commenting on anything on patreon but... Charlie isn't my type of attractive he is too generic and his beard is the wrong length for me. John has attractive potential but depends entirely on personality. Pedro is very charming so id probably say he's most attractive out of the three.

Ditje kamseen

someone already mentioned it, but you also gave pedro an unfair advantage by choosing a photo of him smiling. i think a broad smile gives most people like a 20% boost to attractiveness

иосиф вобла

Pedro, Charlie, John for me.

Whitney

Ok so personally I’ve always found white guys like John Krasinski more attractive than the other 2 so I’d put him first. And I’ve never seen the physical appeal in Pedro. I can understand when adding the charisma but not his actual face. Charlie looks like the typical all-American white guy and that’s boring to me. But hey, I’m more of a Stringer Bell girl myself 😍. Although I do love me some Chris Evans lol

StephWells215

Agreed, Charlie is what men think the female gaze is to me.

Amanda Hill

Wanted to say this but I’m not THAT sure / familiar with US racial politics so I left it. Genuinely question: is he still considered “not white” if he was born in Chile, but his family is of Southern European descent?

lita

Pedro and it’s not even close 😂

Liz F.

as a person who knows nothing about these men aside from their names, i think weber is who you generally consider more conventionally attractive, but conventionally attractive white men aren't.... that attractive to me personally. so i'd put pedro first, and the other two are interchangeable to me

иосиф вобла

Pedro, John, then Charlie. While it's hard to separate personalities from people, that's what I'd say based on these pictures. Pedro dressed as Oberon Martell is indeed a 30. Just looked up Charlie -- as a bi white cis middle-aged lady, he is very, very handsome, sure, but in a kinda boring way. I know nothing about his acting or anything -- I'm sure that that would help the non-interesting vibes. Pedro and John's asymmetry are more compelling. If you used other pictures, I'd Charlie is more handsome than John is compelling. So, Pedro, Charlie, John. But beauty is subjective. I'm sure they'll all find dates to the prom.

Martha Brown

From these photos specifically (I don't know much about any of them) I would say Pedro - though mainly because of the smile and slightly wilder hair; the other two look too neat and polished as well as less happy. None of them are really my type though, but I get where you're coming from. But the most attractive (admittedly fictional, I don't really know celebrities) white man is and always will be Aragorn. Or Legolas, he's just straight-up beautiful.

Alex

Pedro > Charlie > John. But the gap is very little. Pedro is more charming to me. I googled to see their faces more clearly and found out Charli is a former model, so you're definitely not that wrong saying he's fine lol

crazykuroneko

Out of these three options; I would have to agree with your wife: definitely Pedro. But that's also because I didn't like Charlie in HTGWM - like at all 😂 I really like Luke Arnold (he plays John Silver in Black Sails) or Hale Appleman (plays Eliot Waugh in the Magicians). But in my experience, one usually grows to find the people one likes attractive. So if I think somebody is okay looking at the beginning but I really love their character (either in real life or the character they portray in the case of actors/actresses) then - usually - these people become much more attractive to me than they were initially.

Maria

John, Pedro, then lots and lots of space . . . and Charlie. Purely physical. I don't find Charlie remotely attractive physically.

Melissa

Pedro, John, Charlie. Charlie is just too generic white. Doesn’t say anything to me, too boring. Context: I’m white but not American. EDIT to say that some of my “white guy” 10s are Matthew Daddario, James McAvoy and Jamie Dornan.

lita

Oh it would still be Pedro based on looks alone, hands down. For more context, Pedro’s ethnicity isn’t Caucasian, it’s purely Chilean.

Amanda Hill

This gay man will vote with your wife...team Pedro

mark

Charlie, Pedro, John. None of them are a 10 for me, but all of them certainly are VERY attractive.

Ninaofthe90s

Exactly what I thought too

Em

hahaha love it. My wife said the same thing. That he just looks boring. That he looks like AI made him 😂😂

Franklin

I didn't read your explanation first so I'm feeling vindicated you agree, hahaha

anna w

Charlie, Pedro then John

Nikki B

I'm a lesbian, but at least by American standards of beauty if I only look at them for their face and not personality, Charlie is more attractive lol

anna w

Being a lesbian, I would put Pedro at the most attractive out of the 3, then John then Charlie. Trying to stay objective, and I don’t know if it’s just their facial expressions but Pedro just looks so friendly and open and fun. John looks generally easy-going, and Charlie looks both intimidating and boring. But that’s just me

Freya Murphy

Charlie then John then Pedro for me.

Ally.C


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