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Franklin
2025-04-11 17:49:28 +0000 UTC"I've never seen him this serious before." You should DEFINITELY put the show 'Oz' on your rotation. 😅 Adding on to say that something people seem to miss about the final scene is that Fletcher won. You can hate his methods all day and I'm in no way trying to justify them, but this is what he wanted all along. He spat in Andrew's face over and over and over because he believed he could push him to his true potential... and that's exactly what it did. He was willing to let Andrew crash and burn and he would have justified it by saying that he wasn't actually that great after all, but when he came back and crushed it, Fletcher feels completely vindicated and justified. He did it. It's his victory as much as Andrew's.
Kele Webner
2025-04-10 16:36:47 +0000 UTCYou are the one and only creator I’ve ever felt inclined to subscribe to a Patreon for and it’s because of these conversations.
Baisparkles
2024-12-27 05:02:40 +0000 UTCI forgot to add this last bit! In the original screenplay of this movie, it is written that during his final drum solo, music executives and internationally-recognized band leaders that were in the audience are rushing out of the room on their phones to spread the word about the raw talent they were witnessing. So if it wasn't obvious enough, Andrew makes it BIG after this.
Benjamin
2024-05-13 22:05:42 +0000 UTCCouldn't agree more, youtube comment sections get extremely toxic and for some reason, no one what to hear any other opinions except their own these days. Thank you for all you do and the positivity and good-hearted nature you bring to your reactions!! A great thing to see these days and there's nor enough of it! Keep up the great work!
Travis Cannon
2024-05-13 21:59:44 +0000 UTCI appreciate your point of view because it comes from a place of understanding both sides and calling out the wrong parts of the equation. Not blindly defending his method as being Superior. There are a lot of nuances to it. To me sometimes it feels like being the "greatest" requires one to give away part of their Humanity or have it taken away from them as a way to push and motivate them. But at the end of the day, I feel like that should be a personal choice, you choose what you're willing to lose. The best examples I can think of are Kobe and Michael Jordan, these men were borderline insane with their work ethic because of how much they wanted to be the greatest. But I feel for them, it was a personal choice, no one abused or pushed them into that heavy work ethic. They made the choice and dealt with the consequences whether good or bad. I would absolutely respect Fletcher more if the story had Andrew (at the beginning) go up to Fletcher, defeated and broken, and told him, "Please make me the greatest, I will do whatever it takes". ya know? it almost feels to me that there needs to be some kind of consent there. Very interesting conversation indeed my friend
Franklin
2024-05-13 20:02:22 +0000 UTCI really do appreciate you all in this conversation being very real and calling out what Fletcher does and how far it goes. I agree with you. Even though he wants the best for some of these students. A lot of his methods, or even some of the reasons he wants them to be great, seem self-serving and trauma-based. Unfortunately, I'm not looking forward to some of the conversations I would have to have on the YouTube side about these topics. The comment section over there can get pretty wild and full of some very backward takes. And I didn't notice how much you said conversation until I read that second paragraph haha. Thanks man. Appreciate it
Franklin
2024-05-13 19:48:43 +0000 UTCI absolutely love and agree with your opinion about generational trauma being passed down and older Generations feeling a bit cheated because newer Generations don't have to suffer as much to find success/self-worth.
Franklin
2024-05-13 19:40:15 +0000 UTCI like that perspective a lot. His father being amazed and sad at the same time
Franklin
2024-05-13 19:36:34 +0000 UTCAlso lol as much as Fletcher crossed the line WAY too much, but Andrew wouldn't be on that stage, wouldn't have the chops and speed he has, and especially the pure drive to put on such an AMAZING moment, even if it was to prove his teacher/enemy wrong. Andrew absolutely wouldn't have been able to have that moment without a very hard teaching process. Saying "good job, let's try harder tomorrow" approach wouldn't push that type of guy to reach true potential, being a truly great performance. A lot of people say "I want to be the greatest..." but don't actually comprehend what it takes to be one. Some are gifted to the point where they're born with it. Some people have the talent but need instruction on how to achieve the most. But some people need a brutal, driven authority to force the best out of them. I've done a lot of Fletcher defending in these comments but I do have to say that as necessary as this process is to some, including some "G.O.A.T.'S", I also agree that Fletcher went WAY too far to the point where it wouldn't be beneficial to almost everybody! Only truly individual people can go thru something this mentally and physically abusive and actually come out ahead. The ends do not justify the means when it comes to the severity of Fletcher's methods. Sean Casey is proof of that. It's a very interesting conversation that I would hope most people would genuinely have an open mind before partaking. As always, love the reviews!!!
Travis Cannon
2024-05-11 03:56:58 +0000 UTCI both love and hate this conversation for the same reason but I really love it because there isn't actually a right, or wrong answer. Many can have their opinions on what could be psychologically wrong with Fletcher to be who he his but as cold hearted as it is, and how abusive and torturous as it is, it actually does come from a positive place. Many, and I mean MANY successful and revolutionary artists come from an influence or teacher very similar to Fletcher. His character even genuinely reflects that a couple times throughout the movie. One of the things that lack in this country is teaching. Not enough teachers ACTUALLY care enough to do what they have to do to get the best out of their students (I know their severe lack of compensation waters down the quality of education but that's a totally different conversation). It really is sad that educators don't do what they can do to motivate, educate and inspire. With that said, how Fletcher goes about it is simply too far. The mental and physical abuse he puts students thru is borderline, and sometimes outright illegal. That's not a good way to get the best out of someone. It can work, but a lot of people aren't actually better because of it. There are SO MANY ways to communicate differently to people in their own way that will push them beyond what they're capable of without damaging them mentally. I feel like if this very same conversation would be a widespread conversation, it would drastically divide everyone. No one can say that their wrong or even willing to genuinely listen to a rebuttal because real, mature conversations aren't had anymore. Fletcher is out of line with how he conducts himself, but the core if his methods can't be ignored due to its long-term success. But positive reinforcement is extremely beneficial as well. It's all circumstantial and a very interesting conversation. PS, I think I said "conversation" way too much lol. Love the reactions, Frank!!!
Travis Cannon
2024-05-11 03:16:30 +0000 UTCI had to pause tooo, to write this lol. in my opinion, people like fletcher seem like they are passing on their generational trauma and in the same breath are unconsciously heavily affected by that trauma too. because you could argue that their generation, is one that had to suffer to succeed, where their only image of self worth or success has to come from suffering and "hard work". as much as people like fletcher, make me rage as well, its hard to not see their own insecurity gush out of their words and actions so clearly. you can see their desperation to be proven worthy, plus you can see how they need their pain justified by inflicting it on others, so they can see that their pain meant something. you also might argue that it feels like injustice to them, as to why they had to suffer to earn their worth, while the next generation is learning to grow differently. change is hard for everyone, especially those who base their entire self worth on what is changing. but even when trying to understand fletcher, I would still not undermine the harm he is doing, because he is still a manipulative and a horrible person, that should be held accountable for his actions. I hope our generation and those after us, could see that accomplishment doesn't only have one path, and self worth should be automatic and not earned. every human is worth great things, but sadly in the current collective head space, you have to earn that worth, and you have to earn it like those before you. I love your conversations, and your thought patterns, keep going :)
junie
2024-05-10 08:11:20 +0000 UTCA scene that always stands out to me is at the very end, during Andrew’s drum solo, when his dad is peering through the door at him. There is a mixture of awe and amazement at what his son was doing. He was seeing him at the zenith of his artistic power, almost possessed by the talent that brimmed underneath. At the same time, I believe there is a measure of sadness in Andrew’s father’s eyes. He knows that he has lost his son to this artistic obsession. He now knows that Andrew is going down a path of self-fulfilment that may very well harm him at some point in the future (such as that artist who killed himself).
Benjamin
2024-05-08 11:29:04 +0000 UTC
