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Pluribus - Ep.1X2 "Pirate Lady" UNCUT & UNCENSORED

Ok, I'm hooked! lol

Suffice to say I'm loving this series and am VERY happy to report that it's currently the most well-received pilot episode of all the new series I just started on YouTube :D So, rest-assured that my reaction series for it will be on Pareon AND YouTube for the foreseeable future!

As Carol settles into this new reality, I attempt to parse out what the exact nature of this "hive mind" truly is. What are the implications? What are the limitations? Can we go back? Is this truly the best way forward? Idk, your guess is as good as mine lol

Pluribus - Ep.1X2 "Pirate Lady" UNCUT & UNCENSORED

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carol is doing the same thing that laxmi is doing. misplacing her anger. cause the collective didn't kill her wife. the fall did that. yeah, helen getting the mind glue thing and seizing up led to that, but they didn't mean for that to happen. just like carol didn't mean for 11 million people to die because of her stress. i know you didn't mean it like that, but talking about commentary on how god forbid women express their emotions and then treating carol and laxmi different for acting the same way comes off a little hypocritical

yosef

I freaked out. I’m from madrid. My husband from BILBAO

Agitprop

PS, I hope you read ACOTAR anyway (whether you get to 10k or not). It sounds like it will be a better version of an audible sample. If the book is fun enough I might spend a few credits on the book series.

Sam

Looking at Carol and Laxmi, I think the unaffected 13 are somehow especially miserable. Just wired never to be happy and that's why their brain chemistry doesn't accept this forced contentment by the virus. Carol and Laxmi are just the only two that seem to outwardly show just how miserable they are. Even when Helen was alive, Carol seemed to hate everything that wasn't Helen.

Sam

Omg, so many thoughts! I'm going to have to get my own gay little notebook for these commentaries. 🤣 1. Man, the idea of you pretending not to see people's comments and continuing to refer to Carol and Helen as friends / roommates for the rest of the show is devious!! Hilarious rage bait. Probably would have worked on me. Haha. 2. I love that you're watching Hazbin Hotel!! For some reason, I thought you might have mentioned in another reaction that you didn't enjoy musicals. Did I make that up? I'm sorry if I did. 😅 3. Such a based take on Carol’s (absolutely understandable) crashouts as an allegory for how women’s anger is treated in real life. I’m not saying men don’t face their own pressures around emotional control, they absolutely do. Just speaking from my own personal experience, anger is something I’ve spent my whole life being told I’m not allowed to feel - let alone show. And on the rare occasions I have expressed it, the fallout, even when it’s just in my own head, feels weirdly catastrophic. I won’t spiral into oversharing, but I genuinely think it’s so cool you picked up on that theme because I completely missed it, and it’s made me appreciate the episode on a whole new level. 4. I thought it was really interesting how this show kind of introduced this idea of cultural ideals and how they might differ in their viewpoints regarding "Us". I don't think it was a coincidence that despite the other uninitiated people sharing Carol's ability to speak English, many are from countries which rank very differently in their values of individualism vs collectivism. Very cool! https://www.theculturefactor.com/country-comparison-tool?countries=india%2Cperu%2Cunited+states Okay, time to stop yapping Maggie. 😂 I'm really enjoying your reactions to this one if you can't tell. Haha. (Also so sorry to hear about your computer hard-drive issues. I've had that and I know it can be disheartening. Take all the time you need. 💕)

Maggie

there will be no point if all are us 🙃

MarySoul

I’m out here saging these comments 🌿🚬… Go ahead and jot names down in your gay book — you know, the sacred register. And don’t worry, I’m also handing out chill pills 💊🕉️🧘😜

MarySoul

How could you miss that the woman who writes heterosexual erotica for a living was secretly a closeted lesbian instead of just on a work trip with a friend or colleague? There were so many hints!! Like… um… they’re women who seem to know each other pretty well? 🙄 calibrate your gaydar.

Valaree

imagine how good the hive mind could be in team sports

Finnhie

I think they can probably still create! There are problems to solve, like climate change, hunger, housing, those poor uninfected folks, etc. they can work together to test theories, but now each person has access to all of human knowledge so coming up with new ideas might be even faster. Even if it’s functionally one giant brain, it’s a damn good brain! I doubt they will spend much time focused on artistic pursuits as a means of communication, but they will likely find other uses for our creative spirit. If it makes the rest of the hive a little happier I’m sure the musicians will keep writing new stuff. It just might be about how great it is to be a cog in the machine, and maybe a sad little ditty about how hard it must be for poor Carol to miss out on all the love and togetherness.

Valaree

The concept of Carol's anger killing others seems to be commentary on how our feelings impact other people -- how our cruelty or disrespect or violence can have real, lasting implications on living people (in our normal world). A kid is bullied, and they commit suicide, as one example.

Melissa

Some thoughts/questions: 1. Once everyone is part of the "joining," who will they serve? If they are all happy and only in service to one another, it's literally like living in a state of eternal stasis. Where is the satisfaction in that? How does that elicit "happiness"? If you only know intellectually of negative feelings but you never FEEL them, then it's like no emotions matter at all. What is "happiness"? We only know it in contrast to anger, fear, sadness, loss. Everything is just flat. Meaningless. 2. Thinking about Carol's anger killing people: So what? If they are merely vessels for this hive mind, their memories are left behind even if their physical body is deceased. They clean up the dead -- no one is crying or sad. Really, to the hive, what difference does it make? It matters to Lakshmi because she still has human emotions. It matters to Carol because she feels responsible. The only reason for Carol to restrain herself is for HERSELF and her own conscience. I'd like to hear other thoughts on this. I know I probably sound callous, but what does everyone think? 3. The loss of individuality is catastrophic. Will no one paint? Invent? Seek growth and improvement? Being human is fucking hard and painful A LOT of the time, but living like a "pod person" (to use Carol's language) doesn't seem like the best solution.

Melissa

My thought is this: won't hive mind like that just stagnate? There should be individuality for creation. Isn't hive mind is more like generative AI, where it has a set of data and it can only produce a collage of it. And it will be ok for a while, but i wonder for how long it will be enough? Lets say the knowledge they got won't disappear with the death of a body, but the children who born won't bring anything new as well, they won't have a personality or personal knowledge, they will just resycle available knowledge so ultimately no new knowledge will be produced and at some point smth will happen because of that. Idk what... it's night and i will have to think about it on fresh mind

Oleksandra Yakubenko

Sorry for all the comments, but I’m obsessed with this show too!😊 What frustrates me most about Carol is she doesn’t ask the hive Peeps enough questions that really matter! 😤She has no curiosity about them or their experience as part of the Hive. My biggest question to the Pirate Lady/Zosia would be, who was she before the virus & what kind of life did she live, to get them all to think about their past individuality more! Duh Carol!🙄

Mizzhoneymy

I think I’d adjust to being one of the immune ok as long as I had some family members close like Laxmi, who still has her son & Hubby with her. I’d def ask for all the luxuries for me & my fam, & then ask my fam to act like they were before the virus when around me - as much as they are able to - in order to make me feel more comfy/Happy!😎 They could prolly do that, right?😅 But if I were alone, the transition to life alone in a hive world would be much tougher for sure!

Mizzhoneymy

Love your Shining shirt! 💙

Mizzhoneymy


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