I think it has more to do with the good vs evil dichotomy, that Hollywood likes to force into everything, including history. It is especially bad, when they do this with non-european cultures, who certainly had different moral geneologies. History is simply not driven by a metaphisical good and evil, and forcing that belief only leads to an immature understanding of history and politics, which can be easily exploited by all sorts of groups to gain power.
Falcon
2022-03-14 16:08:39 +0000 UTC
Additionally, it's a bit unfair to label one tribe as 'good nobles' and the other 'evil savages' It just wasn't like that. The movie was supposed to take place much further south, but ended up being filmed in South Dakota, so the tribe Dunbar eventually joins was supposed to be Comanche, only changed to Lakota due to location. The Sioux in general were the largest tribe in the great plains, even divided into three separate regional tribes (If I'm saying that correctly) They did clash with the Pawnee (the other tribe depicted) but the Sioux were nearly always the aggressors. They outnumbered the Pawnee by the thousands and sent bands of raiders after them on a regular basis. The Pawnee had been the strongest tribe in that part of the plains until the Lakota began encroaching on their territory after being driven south. The Lakota were much more aggressive towards white settlers.
So neither of them were made up of "savages". The Pawness had been pushed to their breaking point by the Sioux and encroaching whites, and were simply trying to defend what was left of their territory and I can't blame them for being a bit testy about it. The Sioux were about as harassed by the US army and neighboring tribes (who saw them as invaders anyway) but they were much more likely to mount an armed defense than get out of the way. (Because they had guns. They'd had guns and had been using them to hunt bison for over a century by the time the US Civil War rolled around, and were very, very good with them)
But hey, when you're filming a movie, SOMEBODY'S gotta be the unequivocal bad guy other than the white people. You show white people being the bad guy the entire time and audiences comprised mostly of white people aren't going to want to watch your movie. Gotta have at least one white guy to be the hero of the whole gawdam thing. Solution? Use a tribe picked at random from a hat! They were voluntold as tribute!
Alyson Addington
2022-03-11 04:28:33 +0000 UTC
Back then, the white hunters absolutely knew that buffalo could be eaten, they just didn't care. There was far more meat than they could ever need and take with them. The only value they had to the hunters was the hide and the tongues as mentioned. The hunters likely would have slaughtered more but their wagon probably couldn't hold any more.
Emily Smith
2022-03-08 21:55:26 +0000 UTC
The 'actress' who played Pretty Shield (Chief Ten Bears' wife) was named Doris Leader Charge, who learned the Lakota-Sioux language at home, learning English as a second language. She taught the language at the University on the Rosebud Reservation in South Dakota. She was the official language coach for the cast. The interesting bit is that Lakota-Sioux is a gendered language, where the speaker uses different suffixes to denote themselves as male or female. Since it's a complicated language to begin with, and they were on a schedule, Leader Charge left that part out and just taught the female tenses....and it apparently amused Native American audience members watching the men speak like women.
Costner had the police called on him by a concerned local while they were filming the bison scenes, and led to them showing up to arrest people for poaching...until it was pointed out that the dead buffalo were made of paper mache, and the arrows sticking out of other bison had been attached with hairclips.
There were, however, 3600 bison used for that sequence, and shots were layered over each other to give the impression there were many many more. In the 1880s, herds usually had up to half a million animals in them. Written accounts sometimes stated that the land was black with migrating herds for days. Appalling to hear that white hunters annihilated almost 60 MILLION great plains bison in a little over a decade. By the time it was made illegal to hunt them, there were less than a thousand left. (There are roughly half a million bison today, through dedicated conservation efforts, but no one will ever get to see what must have been an amazing view of migrating herds) The hunting scene took 8 days to shoot because production could only do one take per day, due to "Once you get 3500 bison to start running, you can't really make them stop." It took the rest of the day for the bison wranglers to round them all up again, sometimes from miles and miles away.
Alyson Addington
2022-03-08 08:15:43 +0000 UTC
For the record, it won 7 Oscars, including best picture, director (Costner), writing, cinematography, editing and score.
JIM SCHMITZ
2022-03-07 05:35:40 +0000 UTC
I thought of a great joke at the beginning...but the movie was so long I forgot it...it was what it was. A great sharing with you, Guesses-the- Plot.