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Upfront payment for better rewards POLL!

Ok, so, people have been asking me for a long time if I ever wanted to switch our pledge payment to an up-front method (you get charged as you become a patron and beginning of the month, instead of at the end). 

For a long time I felt like it was not necessary, as I never really cared if people "fake pledged" and cancelled at the last minute (to get the perks, but never pledge). But there are a few reasons why now it could finally matter.

We want to implement new exciting rewards for Patrons who support us, however these rewards would only work well if they were only available to honest users who do pledge.

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Here's a list of reasons why up-front payment would be good for us:

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There are no downsides to using the paying up-front method, other than preventing users from scamming our pledging reward system. Which isn't a downside (except for scammers).

But I wanted to make a poll about this change, to make sure you guys are on board first! I'd like to know your thoughts.

Thanks! 

-DC

Comments

THe work is too slow and incomplete... if the scene was created in all and put to the game for example the coach then dead end to ship unlocking then no hints at all then there are places but blocked or in alfa mode instead you can not have those places and go onn in the game so people an play more if you are going to create dead ends we might just lose interest... and think of let the game complete first...

Vkempires

Most people take the weekend off work

0 Changes in last 24hrs - whole team took vacations?

You need the key hanging near the kitchen entrance, it's super tiny

Omnikuken

I grabbed stool from Garage before I tried attic door, it still says I have nothing to stand on, is that because I grabbed stool first?

Ring does nothing, as to whether or not you can marry a girl with it, we're a few years away from knowing

Omnikuken

So I got the ring from the attic, is there nothing I can do with it. If not does that mean I can marry one of the girls eventually. I would marry mia

There's no storyline, all you do is troll around town unlocking girls/scenes and that's it. The only "end" you can achieve is unlocking all the scenes for all the girls in the jar, otherwise there's nothing much

Omnikuken

Thanks guys... I believe I have reached the end of the story line for now, but am unsure. Is there a way to know for sure? Sorry for all of the questions.

Cookie jar is in the main menu. You unlock scenes for the cookie jar when you unlock the scenes while playing the game. This way if you just want to see a certain scene you have already unlocked you can just go to the cookie jar.

Now I am even more lost. Haven't even seen a cookie jar yet. LOL. Back to the telescope ... thanks

You Can Only Get A hand job for now. In a future update we could progress to her story

NobodyEpic00

I am not sure where to ask this, but am new to the game and am enjoying it. However, I am unsure about the completeness of the content. I have completed all of the Mia content and am able to go to her room any night and have anal, but it won't let me progress to the next quest in my locker, which is Judith. Unless you only get a handjob from Judith. Yet again, it won't let let me check all of the boxes in the Mia quest. Can someone please help? Thanks

Your going to vet any custom dialogue, right? If it doesn't fit the character or if it just plain sucks it could ruin the quality of the game.

This game is one of the best I have ever played with the best communities and I am so glad to be a part of it just want to say that and if people want to check a game I find good then check out Horny Henry on Patreon again, I love this game and all you guys in this community.

Matthew Lynch

Kevin

Can someone help me out, I'm trying to do the music teacher's quest. but I can't find the second student for the talent show. I got Eve to do it, but who else do i need to talk to and where do i find them?

why do that when the game is free?

Skeeta_bite

i support up front pay 100%.

It's random everytime you start a new game

Omnikuken

Did harold donut change?

Erue

I hate so many bot scama

Erue

I have this patreon page, but i don't have pay per front, is this a good option?

but only if you bring a new one UP every month

I don't really care much either way about upfront or after the fact payments, as I'm already paying! I am getting a little chuffed at the lack of rewards for the contribution. Seems to me the only thing I get (at $10USD a month) is access to a discord channel I never go into (as it's full of junk). It would be nice if there was some incentive to keep subscribing. (The subscriber only download link was actually worse than the free one! I ended up using the free link cause it was faster!)

Cam

I like up-front payments! It means more honest support. Too late for the vote but supports 100%

From what I heard from the stearm, yes Jenny is in the plan for a makeover, maybe even as soon as after Roxy update.

Doomyo

Sir, is there a chance to get an update with jenny's story you was working on before?

I'm still not sure what the problem is you're having. Have you emailed me? (I get 100's of emails so I'll go through them and see if you did).

DarkCookie

Ummm, I wasn’t pledging to play. Part of the deal cookie put out was, pledge and you will get goodies. I looked at the goodies he offered and I saw an opportunity to help cookie and watch something come to fruition. I like watching people’s ideas grow to something incredible. But alas, I can’t do that, even if I pledge, so how can I watch the game grow when I can’t even load it? It would be silly to vest into something in which you have no idea what it’s progress is. That’s just bad business practices. (I voted to pay in advance, but I guess that’s bad for me since I can’t even play the game! Lol) still, I liked the fact that I was able to help, even if it was just a little, sad to leave, I just don’t have a choice. I hope he finds out who and why his dad was killed. And I also hope that’s his step mom and sis... crossing fingers! And 😭😭😭😭

is it your system? i am an addict too and have been playing the new version. there have been some issues but really not too bad

Skeeta_bite

Start over everytime, you gotta do it with 0.15.1, 0.15.2 and 0.15.3 anyway. They might finally add something to let you keep some saved stuff. Eventually

Omnikuken

I finally got through at least the teacher content but I know a lot of people weren't that "fortunate". Abandoning so many people is really uncharacteristic of DC, but I can't blame you for wanting to drop the pledge, especially a $20 one at that if you can't even play. You can hover over your profile picture, select "Your Pledges", then select "Edit Pledge" next so SS, and finally there will be a few options on the right, one of them is "Delete Pledge".

It's a virus, not actual people.

So, my addict status has come to an end. Do any of you know how to stop the donations? No point on donating if there aren’t any benefits. Can’t even play! Lol, any help would be very much appreciated.

Will upfront payments help with spammers? They are really fucking annoying.

When 16, 17 and so on are completed will it be a patch so you can continue from 15 or will you have to start over with each update?

Jerry Haley

Sorry that I missed the poll. But even I would have voted for paying upfront.

Normally I do not "support", and only when a new update comes I press "become a patreon" to "pay" like 5-10$ fore the update.

The timing of my income drops makes front-end paying better.

If a) means a properly maintained walkthrough, please, A!!!

Dirheim

Doesn't really impact me, so I lean towards neutral, but if there are really people that a) are poor enough to do this and b) feel strongly enough about SuSa to want more voting power anyway and pledge and unpledge and pledge again the next month, sure, lets prevent that.

Troik

I wish there was a 3rd option for neutral, because I don't really care which one you go with :/

ScarletIce

I chose No.1 like up-front payments.

Doesn't really matter to me. Suit your self. If it is a major problem it should not be put on a vote.

Pledge what I can afford may go up over time though the game is worth supporting. when I am earning will try and increase monthly amount

you always can cancel your pledge and only do it when you see the progress in their website reaching to 100%

javier darku

I'm a bit torn on this cause I agree you shouldn't have to deal with scammers but I also don't want to pay for 2 or 3 months to only get 1 update.

Angel

the current update mainly focused around the teachers (Not including the Principal and Gym teacher) and altering the story to meet Patreon gudelines

SecretMischeif

Same.

Doomyo

This isn't related to this post but is fucking the art teacher the last part of .15?

Lilsneaks1

sometimes I don't get my paycheck until after the start of the month so i like being able to save and know i will be able to pay for the pledge at the end of the month.

Alex Espresso

Im a patreon supporter for a few other patreons and i prefer the upfront payment. Makes it easier since the money is taken out at the same time and not sparaticly.

Robert Martinez

Upfront payment ensures you get compensated for the product you delivered. Only thing I ask as a pledger is that the creator delivers at leat one updated release for each pledge month. I do like the private download site, that's a nice improvement. You provide ample benefits for nominal pledge amounts and you offer a quality and substantial product. You deserve the pledge amounts (if not more ) coming to you. Best wishes on your continued success.

OpineegChipp

I have never understood why every creator doesn't do up front payments to begin with. There really isn't any good reason for deferred payments, as far as I can tell.

Dubsington

I’m not a fan of the “higher pay, higher vote”, but I like all other ideas. Maybe if it was only a 2 vote instead of a 1 for the higher payers it would be alright, but certainly not 3,4,5, etc. I think the update thing being more accessible is a great idea because it’s hard to tell when things will be completed since we don’t know exactly what is being worked on. The added characters doesn’t seem like a good idea but taking suggestions for storylines and dialogue isn’t bad. Anyway love the game no matter what great work

Jack Williams

I like the upfront payment. I support this game, more for the entertainment that it has provided, than anything else. I first saw it in a YouTube video and was supremely intrigued. Since I have downloaded it and like playing it. I really want to see the story develop, and see where it is will be taken. I only started my support in March or February, and would have liked my support to be immediate. Thank you for what you have created, and please keep up the good work.

Changing community input by allowing higher tiers to have more decision power than the rest is, imo, not a good thing. I do not mind the upfront payment, I believe it should be the default option on every patreon. Makes absolutely no sense to allow people to subscribe and gain access to previous content without paying a gate fee and if people drop onto patreon to support content creators they are ALREADY willing to drop some money into those patreons, makes no sense to let them know they will be charged next month.

Bruh that landslide though

Jack Williams

Since I actually pay my pledge why would I care if I pay upfront or at the end of the month. It's all the same to me.

money talks..BS walks

john Smith

Not a fan of people's votes having more of an impact just because they chose to donate more money. Feels like such a greed-mode tactic to put that into the tier system. We're all trying to support you in ways we can but people shouldn't have to feel like their vote doesn't even count because they couldn't give you $10/$20 a month. That said I still voted for up-front payments because if someone's going to support you, immediately paying shouldn't be a problem.

Do what you need to do DC

I voted for upfront cause well shit ur the best guy to pledge 2, man when i first downloaded the game last year i thought it was gonna be another short ass demo with a blurred scene at the end but u gave it all away for free fuck it the real supports know u deserve it and also fuck ya fake ass 4%in hoes

4% are scammers Kappa

Also please have it so only patrons who are paying you are allow to put comments in your channels comments " THIS IS A MUST WITH ALL THE HATERS OUT THERE SPAMMING YOU! " ugh.. But as for the rewards for patron to be honest I wouldn't do it for anything higher then $5.00 and the reason is even if you do, all you will be doing is hurting the guys who can only pledge smaller amounts like myself. Just remember I could download your higher tier rewards for FREE anytime I want. I pledge to you because I Iove what you are doing not because of rewards. So in other words reward tiers mean shit if you know where to look. (^_^) But ya I vote for up front payments you should get paid for your hard work DC.

PZ

i agree with all those points except allowing them to add their own characters in. That almost never works out well

Spook master lance corporal

Came here to say this - those of us who will support you are going to support you regardless. Changing it to the upfront payment removes the number of fake pledgers

The Silver King

This game is amazing and I will pay upfront I don't care. I support what you are doing dc

Daniel

I had no idea this was a thing, and honestly I still really don't care. Do whatever is best for you and the game.

think up front is more serious.. usually how things are done and so far DC has delivers good quality!

Even Haug

Cause people don't immediate get the new game until a few days or week after i think. Summertime saga has been HUGE in the adult game area. one of the few that does well.

My only problem is with some votes counting more than others. It would be unfair to have two people’s vote not count the same solely because one of them has less money. There are other ways to reward higher-paying patrons, as others have pointed out.

Adam W.

I don't get why someone would scam your open and free game. just to get up coming teasers? dont you tease in your open and free streams. why scam?

CrusherJr

My only concern is when will this be implemented so I can make sure the funds are there to cover my pledge , I like the idea of payment upfront I like the idea of better rewards also :)

kal seydlitz

I agree. I'm surprised all creators haven't implemented this. Only downside, which Patreon warns, is when pledgers want to join near at the end of the month they'll will be double-billed.

Hellomellowyellow

If you mean the links, pretty sure those are caused by a virus. Since I've seen one with my username and profile picture, I'm constantly looking at them and I think DC or someone from the team is deleting them (profiles no longer available) but for some reason, the comments remain.

High supporters should be rewarded somehow (usually Pics and/or custom content). I prefer the poll special since it will not cause delay to game releases due to additional work.

What stops him from running? DC has honor. What else would it be in any responsible person?

Skeeta_bite

I can because i care

jose hernandez

Well i like the no scam approach but i don't like that the votes of higher paying patreons count more. That is basicaly like election fraud or “bribe“

For people who want to support you, it shouldn't matter if they have to pay up front, or at the end of the month. If changing the payment time is gonna make scammers life harder, just do it 8)

FramedPixelStudio

DO IT DO IT DO IT!

Now lets do something about the stupid, annoying spammers.

Robert M Kern

Yeah do it, don't let the scammers get their way.

Jin

I don't care about the beginning or the end of month. I pledge because the game is nice so do as you want ^^.

Hecatonchire

Will being paid up front keep you vested in producing this game? What's to stop you from taking the money and running? We trust you and your development team too.

I'm glad this is finally being implemented! I just have a couple quick questions: about the high rollers, mainly what level is a high roller? The other question is about the custom dialogue feature, will it be like dialogue packs or versions, or will we literally be typing in their dialogue. I love the game and have been a fan for a while now, and am more than happy to continue being a loyal patron of DC until the end and beyond!

Im not sure but i think when i became i patron you charge me up front but its not big deal i do it because i want this game to be good

Only you will know what is right for your livelihood. Personally, I do not have much of a stake in it because my pledge gets taken out every 5th of the month, so for the hell of it I vote upfront.

JMULVY

If it means that every tier gets something the yeah I'm for it

96% don't mind. Nice to see you got a pretty honest fanbase.

Nomoneynohamburger

I'm with you Dark cookie.❤️❤️❤️

DC you have my support, till the very end. This game is more than just a H-game, its a very enjoyable game with stories i actually care about as well as the Fap side.

KPSLCrusade

It’s all good, DC. Thanks for the note Tuuku.

Skeeta_bite

Way to go dc we support you till the end .

I like up-front payment, even if you don't end up supporting the patron it feels like you are at least 'buying' the game.

EthanEverhart

I would gladly go to upfront payment. This game is actually downright hilarious at times and truly enjoy playing it.

the change wont effect any current supporters only new pledges.

Tuuku

I’m ready now. Let’s get this done. Still have Okita’s AR machine to watch again!

Skeeta_bite

Do up front payments.

So will you let us know when we can re-pledge? Or will that be necessary?

Skeeta_bite

I think that is good idea you guys work hard for this and as a patreon we need to support you guys good luck DarkCookie

darkcookie@kompasproductions.com

DarkCookie

Looks like it!

DarkCookie

Someone who becomes a Patron to our project at the beginning of the month, enjoys the perks and rewards of becoming a Patron, but unsubscribes at the end of the month just before his pledge payment goes through.

DarkCookie

Sorry Cookie, I just can’t get your game going on my laptop anymore. Or work discord. I need to get back to work. If you don’t reply, I will understand and let you be. I’ll quietly leave and not make a fuzz. Good luck to everyone! Live well and don’t forget to smile!

Looks like your supporters are coming out on the side of getting you paid, DC. Well, I say: Honest pay for good work.

Taxman Andrews

this might be a dumb question but what exactly is a fake plegder????

Darkhero86

Thanks!

DarkCookie

Payment up front does keep things on the up and up. Go for it DC!

Skeeta_bite

Iim a new Supporter and i love the game! Im actually going to up my pledge because of how much i appreciate the hard work for all this. So i agree with doing it upfront!!

And I do like Somrak. He's the most likely suspect given that he even EATS them

Sparkbomber

That's messed up, didn't know people could do that. I totally support this change. Just point me where to sign up. ^_^

Christopher Marshall

The pda system does mention stolen panties from the locker room

Sparkbomber

Cookie monster is a copyrighted character so probably not that hehe. Somrak at night could be funny

DarkCookie

Well,

Sparkbomber

Does this also mean that free release will eventually be moved later for non-paying users? I suppose what I mean is will we pledgers start getting the game a significant time before free players? I've seen other Patreon creators doing this, where their pledgers will get the game a week or up to a month in advance before others do. I don't really have an opinion on the model, though I suppose it makes some people feel better about pledging.

What do you mean?

DarkCookie

If the suggestion box is open? It might be funny to add in the Cookie monster on the tv. Or Somrak during the school break-in as the mystery panty raider.

Sparkbomber

Does that mean we have to become a Patreon of you again or will i still be automatically a supporter because i really like your game :)

Martin

It will always be free. There's no way to prevent our game from being leaked. However, pledging will come with many more rewards now, and will prevent scammers from taking advantage of our lax payment methods.

DarkCookie

So the game will be no free now.

TheMilk

Noted!

DarkCookie

First of all DC, great work on this uodate ( as always) I have no pproblem with the upfront charging, do whatever would be best for you, I do agree with Krillin though about how high roller votes shouldn't count more than other tiers votes. Or at least not THAT much more

Effinpist

We're planning for a method that makes it actually rather easy to compile and implement.

DarkCookie

<3

DarkCookie

Thanks!

DarkCookie

I think custom dialogue is an awesome reward and a difficult one to implement. Ensuring up front payment for hard work on your part makes sense... Specially since you have such a large deliverable product already available.

DocXoxxo

Can you email me the actual link you used for this download at: darkcookie@kompasproductions.com

DarkCookie

I support you ;)

Thanks DC!

Ill go with up-front payment, no problem with that, keep going with the good work

Its basically a voice/text chat app with integrated streaming and such for games

Sparkbomber

I'm all for up-front payments. Just means if people actually want to support this whole thing they'll actually have to do it lol

<a href="https://discordapp.com/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://discordapp.com/</a>

Sparkbomber

Discord? Not familiar with that.

One day if we move to another platform!

DarkCookie

Y'know, if scammers are such an issue then sure. I'm on board for a good while longer, unless something drastically changes. A monthly update model would be good, BUT~! Speaking from experience, if you can't deliver on a new build (tech issues or whatever) then you should throw a bone so to speak. Maybe an art preview?

Sparkbomber

Message me on Discord with the details of why this is failing. I believe only 1 other person has had this problem so far and it was also on Windows.

DarkCookie

That's fine, I do hope once you become financially independent you can re add the mom sis aunt dialogue, anyways good luck got me for 5$

It’s now not worth it to me. I tried downloading the latest version of the game through patreon link, gave it my OS and it gave me the link. I downloaded it, unzipped it, no exe file. Downloaded it 3 times, unzipped it 4 times, same thing. I can’t say I support something I have no access to. I’ve sent messages but all they said was make sure I download the one for Windows. Yeah, I know how to do this have been doing it for some time. I would like to still contribute my 20 each month but... little hard to do that when I can’t even see the results of your work. Can anything be done before I drop out of the patreon partnership?

Even If I released monthly people would still fake-pledge to get the perks and drop off at the end. It doesn't change the issue we're discussing in this post. I do agree about the save files though haha. We are working on that, actually. We hope by 0.17 we'll have save compatible builds. :)

DarkCookie

Couldn't agree more!

Hmm... It's a good point you make. I'll think this over. Thanks Krillin!

DarkCookie

👍🏻Honest support for honest hard work...yes for more updates!

I honestly just want to play the game. I have zero interest in the game development. And if you are not going to deliver a new update every month. People will drop off. And then renew when you do. The monthly update model keeps all parties interested and honest. And please please please figure out how to carry over saves. Restarting from scratch sucks balls. And a real let down.

Adm Trd Ferg

&lt;3

DarkCookie

I believe you won't get double charged from what I've read. But I will double check!

DarkCookie

That's fine. I understand where you from. Maybe I should start releasing updates every month :P

DarkCookie

Doesn't matter to me if it is the beginning or end of the month. Do what works best for you. I honestly never thought about it being delayed. Up-front is probably best to help you best manage financial expectations, though.

It would get rid of spamers also. I am all for it.

I am all for up-front pledges. Cheaters should never be rewarded. However, allowing higher tiers to sway votes with a stronger vote is wrong. Some people put money your way and can only afford that. Add other perks and rewards but opinions from all your pledgers should mean the same, regardless of how much they pledge.

Yes, definitely. I support you and would prefer you got honest support.

i support you so no prob with that :D

Mike S

My only concern will be getting double-charged, essentially, when/if the changeover happens. Especially for the high-tier pledgers.

Ricochetv1

Np!

DarkCookie

Lets do it, commit or bounce fellas

Maurice Morris

Totally worth it.

Duderino

I might be the only guy here who pledge only when there's poll or new release the delete my pledge in the same month. And waiting for another release for later

CK

I never understood the delayed payment method. You get rewards up front, you should pay for them.

Beastman

100% agree with this, I already pledge so it doesn't matter to me. It'll keep our beloved cookie jar clear of nonsense.

omegashrn

I enjoy the idea you asked us first. Thank you for that!

Timothy

Yeah, what's the problem. I support it. Doesn't change anything for me.

PervMASTER

The 2% are all of the scammers lmao

The Melon Man


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