boxcast episode 8
Added 2023-11-28 02:29:00 +0000 UTClong time no boxcast!
sorry i was mostly the busy one and she also came to korea so we didn't have time to meet
i like todays topic
because i know and you guys know what I struggle as a streamer, but Jinny also does it
i feel like the range of worries are definitely different
for example, she thinks 4k viewers are not good for her, whereas if I ever ever had 4k viewer, I would be so happy XDDD
let me know what you guys think!
also please share the potential topic you want us to discuss!!
Comments
The difference between social interactions between west and east. I want to describe it this way. I think we cut the bullshit and just say whats on our mind more. It saves time. You don't leave things behind to fix later. Like if I were to sit down and negotiate with someone I would want them to be themselves without any imagined blocks or something they percieve but is not really there like them thinking I have any prejudice towards them before even knowing me in person. I learned you can pay to be on the homepage. Well I wrote a ton! Why I am I the only one doing this. It like I feel I'm the only one drinking the drinks at the bar. I tell everyone behind me you gotta try this it so good. And they grunt in disbelief and turn back around.
H2O
2023-12-09 11:03:18 +0000 UTCOn both. As you go along with every streaming episode would expect anything going on the world to affect the show. For example in the New York episode there were protestors about the israel and palestine war. It was unexpected, at the time I thought it was going to clash with what was the focus. Another example was the Twitchcon in paris I read some comments that people were angry they were having the convention during protests. Well the point of some protests is to disrupt regular city activities to bring attention to a problem and having that convention took away their spotlight. My opinion is they shouldn't have had the twitchcon. I got confused on when you were doing the show actually and my discord I don't know. It just doesn't alert me sometimes but then again I hardly use it. In the past I may have had two occasions were someone may have tried to steal it. And thanksgii=ving week it gets busy. Even if you don't plan to spend much its the time of year to save on subscriptions and just about everything digital. For the rest of year its mostly groceries. Well I saw some of it. And like I said before I mean I thought you were good. What I mean by that thousands of people watch your show. I bought stickers and I know like youtube takes maybe 60% but still I put what I could. To me every year is busy in a different way. I felt like less people were online and I'm not looking up any stat to confirm it. Its just a feeling or mood that I got. Overall I still keep coming back to the economy. Buying food is just twice what it cost. I don't do social media anymore so I'm kind of worthless. I think you did great in how it looked but you know its like sometimes you discover good movies that you never knew about because when they originally came out they didn't have the budget to advertise. I did a quick look on your stats for Tyongeee, ๐คท it goes up and down but like events like japan trip I think whats happening is that other people who are interested in going over Japan will use your vids to learn or just preview some sights. I do that. I did that with the sphere in las vegas. Japan right now after seeing some videos, I would think twice. Because of the rude streamer from kick i think they brought more laws having to do with streaming. And I don't know about how welcoming the people would be to foreigners after his incidents caused a lot of anger. I feel he ruined it for everyone and should have been stopped from the beginning. This quick thought, next presidential election is next year. The politics are gong to get tense again. Its going to take take alot peoples time away. I think trump has a good chance. Its not that I like him its that I'm seeing things some of the underlying data and maybe how everything is being presented in the media. Okay on the show thing again. Like I said before I try to search different conventions and events and see if others have done them. Some subjects are electronics, try and see the conventions were they preview new models or inventions. Cars, before las vegas i was thinking of doing a quick scout by visiting a lowrider show but its not as popular as it once was. The comic cons maybe but i'm like half and half in homepages I saw lot of critics saying they're tired on superhero movies. I'm just gonna go anyways its my bucket list. Theres concerts almost in every city. The ones that are outside in the open I think would be good. I wouldn't say go to everyone of them and make yourself bankrupt. There is something of an adventure I want to do. The Alien mummies. It seems something strange is going in Peru with the "face peelers" I want to go to that. Actually go and try to grab and beat one up. Also if I can find it I would go to the original locations where they found the alien mummies. Its probably empty now but I would take video pictures its just frustrating they post potato quality on the internet. Bucket list: Bonk an Extra dimensional being or outer space traveler. I don't understand why you'd want over a thousand that chat is a mess and unreadable everything just goes by too fast. An upside to high viewer count is newbies don't feel discouraged to participate. I've been in some streams where I guess its the usual 5 or ten people and they just act so elitist and uppity like I had to go through some initiation to be accepted. By the way on the outside if someone is not familiar with twitch culture streamers should tell their mods not to be assholes and be patient, give quick explanations. I think sometimes they are too focused on punishing than helping attract new people. I say this not about your streams but on others that I've been in. This subject about money and viewers. For Jinny I think she can major investments maybe 60k. She has to be more open for advertisements in a way. While back I said deconstruction videos. I'd factory vids where they show how things get made. I think Jinny would do great to make something like this. It would be great to have show content even if its been done before. Businesses would always want some way to advertise or get the attention of younger people. Not even to sell things but also to make it look not so boring and encourage new people to apply to work there. For Tyongeee, I hate even sayng but I think maybe 30-40k. But I'm not sure about show ideas. I would say the same like shops, backstage at concerts, but its the numbers that are going to be an impedence. I like your personality when you present. Its just sometimes comedic improvisation uhh needs to be more family friendly or more vague if its like for adults only. Look I don't want to say it because I want to you decide how you want to be. I'll be the bad guy if you feel bad about it or turns off your audience. But you know you both are complaining about lower numbers so try things out. I say get to that point you two have a more secure and maybe clearer vision. If your main target is just one you don't need to constantly second guess about every single person's opinion in chat. You would still care but it be more of off to the side. Yeah in the begining you were stressed. Every little data point was pulling on you. Kind of like if you saw one thing change it was a two bladed sword going up or down. I don't count the donos or subs or bits that get thrown in but to me its sort of like throwing dollars bills. So seeing that I just think must be sweet. I just don't worry still because for most people they can agree its a fun job but then the bad side of it is when its the main source of income. Then money talks. The alopecia I can believe. When I had hair falling out it was a time having left military I had no money left after paying my car off. Sold just about everything I could. This was when the economy was bad. The job that i guess that would have been offered to me were being offered by some people that knew me and just wanted me on their payroll because part of it was they wanted me under their control. Money insecurity makes your hair fall out. For western streamers first thing I think. They want attention thats why they stream. For Korean, Japanese & Chinese its more of getting income. I don't think regular people think broadcast jockey do things that are lewd, I mainly think they dance in short skirts. If they do I think then they just call them cam girls. Talking the family and how they act with their kids - its trauma, trauma just get passed down through generations if its traumatic enough. For mines it was probably living through enslavement. When you think about to go through something like that you end up sort of giving up on hope or at least not to get your hopes up high becasue it feel like a sort of warning when you get too happy that something bad will happen to kick you back down. We don't do it so much within main family but like if my cousin were to announce they got a great job I wouldn't automatically be all happy and cheerful and supportive like regular white people would. i would ask how much? as if already in my mind I'm saying better not be more than me. Or they won something or made something great. I'd find something critical about it. like "Oh yeah can you do it again?" We were negative to each other but didn't understand why. Now of course understanding lead to overcoming it and I'll be all supportive. So it flipped sort of I'll be negative towards strangers. When you are trying to -i don't know to describe this- like build or create something big or make something successful. It helps to move to a place where people don't know you. If its an atmosphere where you know people will have low expectations its demotivating. Its when I was living in a different state so far away that I felt like its new start I can feel like anything is possible. Be a different person too. I wouldn't be able to be like you two streaming in front of a camera because I would just have memories of family having discouraging opinions. Going out with any girl that streams or is the public is just not easy or I would say to someone its just a bad idea. Think about it. They have to talk lots of people and in various ways would be contacting them. Check out celebrity couples. They get into really dysfunctional relationship and I think all around trust can be too easily broken. Just going with a regular girl thats pretty and you can't keep her focus, other guys will see that and try their games to take her away. A girl with too many guy friends is a warning sign. And its sort of like you'll be with her but she won't be completely yours you would have to share her with her fans/audience. I don't know how any guy can go too long like that. I would think it have like this demeaning characteristic to it like a cuck. Ideally what a guy would want in a relationship I think would not be complete. Something will eventually crumble it like a loose foundation. The building falls too easily with any shake. I would say to any guy just don't, especially if you are looking at her with puppy dog eyes and holding her up on a pedestal. But you know if it's their first they should learn. Normies, its things like this it just annoys the us normies. Oh here come the elite streamers. And the term influencer, I never liked. Influencers don't influence me. I think Internet broadcaster or streamer is better it doesn't like come off so smug. So more and more people in Korea are getting into streaming? then it would make sense that the numbers go down right? more streamers means more competition. Thats pretty ouch to be judged on viewer numbers ๐ Tyongeee @36:04 cute sad face I think jinny was seeing it too made her smile little ๐ The people writing bad things online might be miserable with their life. Its just convenience that its you or anyone online they go after. The alternative would be to turn it off. No interaction. That what I was wondering about. If you had no interaction it was just like a traditional tv show would you be happier doing that instead. Would you miss the instant comments even they come sometimes with abuse. I think depending on my situation mental health wise I would kind of feel good about it. Overall mental health is bad and I'd be alright being someone's punching bag. Its sort of feels like I'm taking a punch for someone random that maybe would not be able to take it.
H2O
2023-12-09 10:34:41 +0000 UTCI'll update this little by little laters. On the donating thing. I did write that when they were going to make people start paying back student loans again it might affect streamers income. Over 40% of people in debt will have impact so thats why I mentioned it. I said like people will try cut back on expenses more than likely entertainment such streaming shows. I'm not an expert on this stuff or how you guys get paid but the nature of your job it sort of changes people to displaying a big ego. Flashing expensive stuff, showing things others would envy. So from point of view of the audience would it be understandable that just anyone watching would just not feel not obligated to spend money when a big donor donates. During the pandemic times streamers had a boom and I think its starting to go back to where it was prior. Speaking for myself it was cool to watch streams and thanks. Its just now things are back to normal and I would to travel and do things like learn stunt driving. Also sometimes you two mention rich people that you know so since I'm not a millionaire it kind of makes me think you guys have financial help that way. I think just about any country would think United States is just full of money. Tell me how you view U.S. viewers. Would you expect them to give more or do estimate a bigger amount when you target your content for an American audience (I'm not writing that in anger I think it could be better said in person) Another thing that unrelated to your channel that could have affected it was the Cookie drama that happened like a week before Thanksgiving. The "broke boys" comment did not look good. I worked on another person's computer checked out youtube unsigned. It was one of the most recommended topics on the homepage. I think with that and the other political streamer getting called out by a youtuber for various things and losing the debate it just looked bad overall for Twitch. I think with those two incidents it caused people to turn away or hate streamers more. Its just speculation, I'd like to talk to people in person about shows but then I'm afraid about revealing how much I spend or donate. I'm going to the gym. This episode brought up alot of thoughts so I'll write more later or if you kick me out your patreon โฎ๏ธ
H2O
2023-12-07 00:10:21 +0000 UTCI got distracted again. In light of the twitch news yesterday I will not be critical in negative way. You know its going to be probably like everyone running around with their head cut off trying to figure how to vlog still in Korea but....
H2O
2023-12-06 21:13:03 +0000 UTCWow just 36 seconds in and I can't keep from getting distracted. Had to help with finding something. I am going to be I guess doing this for maybe the whole day because based on things I seen lately. It might become an essay which is something Tyongeee hates. Uhh.. based on the emotion on your voice there seems to somethings youre unhappy about so....
H2O
2023-12-03 22:21:12 +0000 UTC
