Kiseki: Dear To Me Episode 7 (Full Reaction)
Added 2023-09-28 04:07:57 +0000 UTC
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yep that’s true. The idea of him holding off and waiting till he’s not a minor anymore still feels iffy. But it seems the show isn’t going down that route so I’m glad. I was at the very least hoping that they would hold off on sex and intimacy but I’m also thankful that it was very wholesome and a loving moment between them. It was portrayed more romantically and not at all in a hyper sexualized way And yes, that’s totally true. I know 30 year olds who still act like they’re freaking teenagers lmao.
BL Besties TV
2023-09-28 23:38:49 +0000 UTCOh ik their relationship is kinda iffy hahaha im trying to act like im blind. But i think it would be even weirder for him to wait until hes 18 years old, it would still be kinda weird to me because their relationship still started before that age (even if it was just mutual pinning without acting on it). And for the questioning of the fact that a 17 year old might not be really in love or might fall out of it. I think it applies to any ages, i know a lot of people that are super immature emotionally and that are older than me. But yes for sure, id question if that person is actually in love or if its some type of admiration. I think that someone over 18 willing to date someone thats 17 has to be aware of the consequences if their partner reports them. Dating a minor over 16 is legal, but if that minor decides to report you for any type of sexual abuse (if its true or not) you will be charge as a sexual predator. So theres risk and you need to be ready to face them
Claudia
2023-09-28 22:50:03 +0000 UTCHI sorry in advance for such a long response LOL I didn’t realize I had so much to say but reading what you said gave me a lot to think about. yes!!! totally agree. Love what you shared about the brain developing more around 25. and yessss the power dynamics are the biggest concern in situations like these. I think that’s also why situations like these just generally make people uncomfortable. Minus the clear cut laws regarding what the age of consent is in different countries, there are so many differing opinions on whether this type of dynamic can yield a healthy and lasting relationship. On the negative side, some might say a 17 year old is still too young to be in a relationship with a 22 year old because they’re still too immature. Are they really in love? Will they grow out of it as they grow older and rethink their decisions? Does their young age leave them vulnerable to possibly being manipulated into thinking they’re in love when it’s really just an intense adoration or attachment? On the flip side, I personally I think it’s totally possible for a 17 year old to genuinely fall in love with a 22 year old and end up with them for life. If high school sweethearts can fall in love in high school and end up together for life, is it really that much different from a high school student falling in love with a college aged student? Is it wrong or right to disregard or discredit their relationship just because one is a teenager and one is an adult who is several years older? Many could argue both positively and negatively to both sides. But it really depends on a case by case basis because there’s so many factors involved, including the power dynamics as you mentioned previously. In the context of this story, the older man blackmails the younger guy into letting him live in his apartment, which then somehow leads into a romantic entanglement. Even if these were two grown adults in their 30s, the way the relationship started is already a red flag because it was born out of manipulation with one person having the upper hand. But when you also add the fact that a 17 year old is involved, it becomes even more iffy: An adult took advantage of a teenager by forcing himself into his home, blackmailing him into cooking him meals and forcing him to treat his wounds and let him live there. But then it also becomes even more complicated because the two seem to genuinely grow to really love and care about each other. It’s clear that they deeply care about each other’s well being. It also seems that Ze Rui doesn’t have any intentions to harm Zong Yi or screw him over. He clearly holds back his feelings, seemingly worried as well about the age gap and how young Zong Yi is. Ze Rui seems to also feel very afraid of getting involved with him because he is a gangster. It’s clear that he wants to protect Zong Yi but eventually his feelings grow stronger and he can’t hold back anymore. I feel like anyone who feels negatively about their relationship is mostly concerned about whether or not the younger person is being manipulated or taken advantage of. But since Ze Rui clearly really loves Zong Yi, does that change things? Regardless of where you stand on their relationship, I think the show is doing a good job at representing that situations like this aren’t just black and white. It’s a type of forbidden love that can happen, and it’s creating a conversation about how we all can and or should view these things. Which I think is great. I’m really rooting for them and I’m excited to see how things unfold after the time jump.
BL Besties TV
2023-09-28 22:43:13 +0000 UTCthis explains why I sometimes feel iffy about grown ass couple when one of them isn't really able to take care of themselves or acts very immature ahahah. even if the character is grown, it rubs me the wrong way because of the power dynamics.... if that makes sense
Claudia
2023-09-28 22:01:53 +0000 UTCnah its mostly a social construct. the brain is generally fully developed around the age of 25. nothing actually happens when you're 18. when someone asks: what is considered an adult, people will often rely on achievement and not age because some people become adults young while others act like children until their mid twenties. an adult is often someone who is able to take care of themselves and their needs without having to rely on someone else, it has a lot to do with maturity. gotta thank my sociology teacher for this knowledge.
Claudia
2023-09-28 21:59:30 +0000 UTCI don’t know the scientific reasons off the top of my head, but generally yes. It’s not that they suddenly have a sudden mental development when they turn 18. It’s just believed that it’s generally when they complete development and become a fully formed adult as far as I understand it.
BL Besties TV
2023-09-28 17:00:10 +0000 UTCAgreed! That’s why I appreciate this story. It’s complicated and nuanced and addresses the fact that it’s not always black and white when there are couples like this.
BL Besties TV
2023-09-28 16:56:44 +0000 UTCI totally agree with your comment. There’s so much more to age than just the chronological number.
Cindy Bowser
2023-09-28 13:43:54 +0000 UTCI’m trying my best not to since you’ve warned me before.😳
Cindy Bowser
2023-09-28 13:42:58 +0000 UTCAge is such a weird thing,he could have just turned 18 years old a week ago and suddenly its ok. Do people think at 18, theres a sudden mental development that makes someone an adult?. Thats why when a character is 17, its more of a gray area. Because as you know its not illegal and some people are mature enough at that age. I think it depends on how mature that person is and also the power dynamics.
Claudia
2023-09-28 11:46:18 +0000 UTCoh yeah you really felt their chemistry in that scene and the actors did an amazing job. I think I kind of know what you mean in the first sentence after watching episode 8, but let’s talk about it there to avoid spoilers just in case LOL
BL Besties TV
2023-09-28 10:21:44 +0000 UTCThere’s also a reason why he’s a minor in this series. This is the best BL going on right now and that love scene was awesome in terms of feels.
Cindy Bowser
2023-09-28 09:03:52 +0000 UTCYes, I completely get what you mean! Do they say what the other guys' age is? Not like that makes a big difference i'm just curious. I think the worst age gap scenarios i've seen are usually in Japanese dramas and I can't finish them because the girl is 17/18 and there is an older guy laye 30's-early 40's trying to start a relationship. I have a young daughter so that is so messed up.
Janelle B
2023-09-28 05:03:56 +0000 UTCoof yeah it's a common thing I notice in a lot of bls but for me it's never the legality of the situation that bothers me. It's just the actual scientific and psychological reasons why a relationship with someone who is that young can be problematic and iffy. The reason why 18 is considered the age of consent in the US is because before that your brain is still developing and aren't fully able to make adult/mature decisions, which is why it is often considered to be grooming. However I also really appreciate this story in Kiseki because I do believe there are also situations like this where the two people can genuinely love and care deeply for each other. But yah it's still a grey area especially when intimacy and sex is involved. It's just a weird time at that age to be in a relationship like this. But when the younger person is over 20, a 4-5 year age gap is no issue at all.
BL Besties TV
2023-09-28 04:59:17 +0000 UTCJust fyi, I think the age of consent there is 16 so while it's still weird to me (and us), he isn't considered a "minor" technically 😅 I just googled and it looks like Japan is also 16 and Thailand I think is 15? *shivers* that's a bit creepy
Janelle B
2023-09-28 04:11:05 +0000 UTC
