It Sure Looks Like Mayor of Istanbul Eric Adams Is Going to Get Away With It
Added 2025-03-17 09:35:49 +0000 UTCOA1138 - Is a federal judge really about to sign off on dismissing the federal corruption charges against New York City mayor Eric Adams even in the face of everything that we now know about the corrupt deal which led to DOJ’s request? Why did appointed attorney Paul Clement recommend dismissing the case with prejudice, and what might it mean for future prosecutions by Trump’s DOJ if Judge Ho agrees? Superstar NYC public defender Liz Skeen returns to go beyond the headlines with some local perspective on the current state of one of the most important federal criminal cases in our lifetimes.
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Yes. This! I haven't heard anyone discuss the possibility of NY state charges against Adams. I would love to hear a knowledgeable lawyer address the question of whether or not it's feasible. (Whether or not it might actually happen is probably more speculation than factual analysis.)
Wordorigins.org
2025-03-19 14:09:18 +0000 UTCWhat about this possibility: Trump DoJ gets cold feet and fears that the judge would call for a with-prejudice dismissal, so they just withdraw the motion to dismiss and then go hardcore in backing a new mayoral candidate that will capitulate?
Don Bell
2025-03-18 18:30:09 +0000 UTCNo, ranked choice voting should be judged on its own merits. Unfortunately, here as in nearly every jurisdiction in the US (and most other parts of the world) that uses ranked choice, it's implemented as instant runoff voting, a method that produces worse outcomes than plurality/FPTP in nearly every case where the results differ. It's almost as if the purpose of using IRV (and people choosing to refer to it exclusively as "ranked choice voting", as if it were the only ranked method possible) is to elect terrible candidates to poison the well for a generation against all voting reform in general and ranked choice methods in particular and create a backlash that gets them popularly repealed within the first few times they're used, as happened in Aspen CO, Burlington VT, and Pierce County WA in recent years.
Chris Conley
2025-03-18 10:33:45 +0000 UTCI only ask you not judge ranked choice voting reflexively from whether or not it gets Mamdani elected. I am confident to say more New Yorker’s will feel more free to rank him over Cuomo and Adams than in First past the post.
Austin Flake
2025-03-18 03:38:22 +0000 UTCI think one of the concerns that Clement likely weighed quite heavily (and to be fair, Matt airs this same concern 45min into the podcast) is not wanting to (be the first to?) create the precedent of the Executive completely ignoring the Judiciary and in turn showing the Judiciary to be entirely toothless. I think there is a very real prospect of the entire judicial system being illegitimised as a 3rd branch of government - and this would have far-reaching and catastrophic implications for the future of the country. For example, if the Executive branch were to ignore Justice Ho's decision to require them to prosecute the case, and face no consequences... could they not be emboldened to ignore any future justice's decisions on voting rights? What would be required to put that cat back in the bag? I've told my eldest son that I'm genuinely concerned for democracy and the 3-tier system of government as a concept with Trump's election. And I don't think this is at all ring fenced to the U.S. - Australia's system of government, and I'm sure many other countries, very closely resembles America's 3-tier system. Without the judiciary, the power imbalance to the ruling party becomes ... present-day Russia? And if the Judiciary falls in the U.S., it surely falls with the election of any conservative government the world over...
I'll Be Danned If I Can't Be Frank With You
2025-03-17 23:35:12 +0000 UTCMuller, Jack Smith, Garland, judge Cannon - he got away with everything and the same justice system is going to be used on so many mercilessly and just ignored otherwise.
KeepingThePlatesSpinning
2025-03-17 18:15:29 +0000 UTCsounds a whole lot like a bunch of sternly worded crunchwraps. 😒
ahoy
2025-03-17 17:20:16 +0000 UTCThe one thing that is annoying is that the amicus should have been someone else. This need for a supposed lawyer from a different legal perspective is a false invocation of nonexistent bipartisanship. Another lawyer was needed.
Ryan
2025-03-17 16:22:22 +0000 UTCMy big question is what is New York state doing about this, now that these acts aren't being prosecuted under federal jurisdiction? I'd expect there are relevant state laws against those sorts of things. And it's not like Letitia James would want to sit on that in deference to the Trump administration.
Sam
2025-03-17 16:00:31 +0000 UTCAlways love having Liz as a an addition, and for the record pay a higher patreon price for video of the pods. Also what on earth is up with Cuomo!? Like...really? What!??
Jess C
2025-03-17 15:22:41 +0000 UTCAlso appreciate the plug from Liz for Zohran Mamdani! Really hope enough people will not rank Cuomo that the polls aren’t as relevant as they might be in a first past the post election.
Alvin Bragg should indict Eric Adams
2025-03-17 15:03:49 +0000 UTCIt would be interesting to hear some thoughts from a NY criminal lawyer on the possibility of an NYC DA bringing state corruption charges against Adams after the federal case is dismissed. It seems to me fairly clear that he violated multiple NY state laws, separate from any federal crimes, and the separate sovereigns doctrine would make a state prosecution potentially possible, but I don’t practice criminal law so not sure what the considerations are in the DAs’ decision making.
Alvin Bragg should indict Eric Adams
2025-03-17 14:47:06 +0000 UTCAt least the Trump people probably aren't getting what they wanted, ie a leashed Adams, so that's a tiny bit of pleasure. Speculation on state charges instead? Or the Governor finally doing something?
AliceMerray
2025-03-17 13:49:01 +0000 UTC
