Now What. #RRF?
Added 2024-11-06 23:22:37 +0000 UTCWelp. Despite this hellish result, we can promise you that our work over here will not stop. So, with the future in mind, what questions do you have about the coming administration, and how we can prepare for it?
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Sorry for the delayed response on this but the show (openargs) and each of us (mattcameron, seriouspod) have all migrated as of a few days ago. It was way past time! Loving that old Twitter energy, especially this week
Matt Cameron
2024-11-13 20:07:14 +0000 UTCThanks for your proactive note about taking a break. This echo's my sentiment and I'm glad that you said it first.
__dang
2024-11-09 00:23:05 +0000 UTCThanks for the extra push! I have been running out of time since got hom
Matt Cameron
2024-11-08 05:49:14 +0000 UTCAny chance of Judge Merchan opting for the funniest timeline and sending Trump to jail? And likelihood of Kathy Hochul still pardoning him before he takes office?
Katie Herrmann
2024-11-08 03:27:39 +0000 UTCThis, and other major federal agencies. EPA, CFPB, FBI.
Katie Herrmann
2024-11-08 03:22:50 +0000 UTCI hadn't allowed myself to think the words "Vice President Vance" yet and I'm going to need to come back to this one.
Katie Herrmann
2024-11-08 03:21:21 +0000 UTCAs a current, practicing attorney: Yes. Learn everything. Because things change, and things change back. Still worth it to know the principles.
Katie Herrmann
2024-11-08 03:15:48 +0000 UTCTo say every citizen can vote is already false, though. Citizens living in US territories can't vote for president. And obviously in any given state, citizens living in the US but outside that state can't vote in that state, and citizens living outside the US can only vote in that state if that's where they last lived before moving abroad. But even if you narrow it down to voters within a state, many states deny voting rights to citizens in prison or even jail, as well as citizens with past felony convictions. Can't remember if any states also deny voting rights to citizens with profound mental incapability or psychosis requiring inpatient care. Basically, if they already have any of these restrictions, an amendment to the state constitution saying “every citizen” would either remove those restrictions, or codify them such that they couldn't be relaxed by legislation.
Graydon Armstrong
2024-11-08 01:37:59 +0000 UTCYou rock Lydia, thank you for your service
M. D. Nova
2024-11-08 01:21:54 +0000 UTCYes.
Graydon Armstrong
2024-11-08 01:19:41 +0000 UTCThey don't care about state's rights. They pretend to care about whatever gets them what they want.
Graydon Armstrong
2024-11-08 01:19:18 +0000 UTCI want to be clear that I never said anything of the sort! Why would you even think that? I will elaborate. 1) What can Biden do with his remaining time? 2) What can we do to prepare for the upcoming flood of (dis)information from the president elect? Can we do anything to prepare for the incoming schedule F changes like monitor certain positions? Heads of departments? etc etc.. It's going to be utter chaos and it's going to all start happening immediately upon inauguration... Sitting around twiddling my thumbs feels like knowing that an earthquake is coming months ahead of time and just doing nothing to prepare.
Shaun T
2024-11-08 00:07:00 +0000 UTCAgreed, would also like to hear about how this also applies to people who are trans.
Undercover-Toad
2024-11-07 16:09:50 +0000 UTCAfter listening to Matt's breakdown of MKUltra, and then now hearing about supremacist orgs paying people to push eugenics, I'd like to hear more about this and how it may have had / not had any affect on the election and major shift to the right in almost every US county. https://theconversation.com/a-new-race-science-network-is-linked-to-a-history-of-eugenics-that-never-fully-left-academia-241646
Undercover-Toad
2024-11-07 16:08:01 +0000 UTCyes and it’s gloriously passive aggressive. it’s basically following the letter of the law or doing a thing that’s asked, knowing that it won’t achieve the results the authority wants.
Keegan
2024-11-07 15:54:59 +0000 UTCoh yeah I forgot about those guys. d'oh.
lauren
2024-11-07 15:01:01 +0000 UTCMalicious compliance? Is that a thing?
Rae
2024-11-07 13:17:57 +0000 UTCAny chance we could join the ICJ before January? (Except for the filibuster, which we'll want to keep around for as long as possible.)
Sean
2024-11-07 12:43:55 +0000 UTC^^^^ Wouldn't stop the current SCOTUS from doing so, let alone a court where Trump's gotten more appointments including potentially the CJ.
Chris Conley
2024-11-07 12:34:39 +0000 UTCYou'd need both Manchin and Sinema onboard, despite both of them being on record opposing anything less than maximum decorum, which an inverse of the RBG->ACB swap certainly would not be.
Chris Conley
2024-11-07 12:34:19 +0000 UTCAssuming you mean literal federal states, no, at least not unilaterally. Changing the boundaries of one or more states, including to consolidate states or to split one into multiple, requires the affirmative consent (so, passing a law) of both the state(s) whose borders are being altered and of Congress.
Chris Conley
2024-11-07 12:14:34 +0000 UTCIf the right keeps pushing for the government to be more localized (power to the states and all that), is there a possibility that democrats take that idea and run with it and make city-states?
Reyals Frontrunner
2024-11-07 10:41:22 +0000 UTCIf Biden resigns now Harris becomes the 47th President. Even though it will be for just a few months, the barrier will have been broken.
Viola DeGamba
2024-11-07 09:21:46 +0000 UTCYes, Trump could die today and the US would get Vance!
Donna W (uk listener)
2024-11-07 07:49:38 +0000 UTCIf States have made abortion legal under their constitution, can that be overuled by a federal ban?
Donna W (uk listener)
2024-11-07 07:48:47 +0000 UTCThis please!!
SmartPal
2024-11-07 07:35:40 +0000 UTCRight this moment, I've chucked some money toward the Trevor Project to support trans and queer youth. It's all important, but this felt most urgent, to try to do something to save anyone from, out of acute despair right now, doing a thing they can't undo.
Graydon Armstrong
2024-11-07 07:13:05 +0000 UTCEach country has its own immigration laws, so it wouldn't be possible to go into much detail. The broad strokes, though, are: • find out what visas are available, their requirements, and their processing times • find out employment prospects for employment-based visas • consider visa pathways, that is, what's next after that visa, does it lead to residence and citizenship, can it be renewed indefinitely, or will it expire and you'll have to leave • stay up to date on all of this, it changes over time, and may especially do so in the face of a significant immigration spike from the US • relocation and immigration are expensive, start putting money aside
Graydon Armstrong
2024-11-07 07:05:55 +0000 UTCI wouldn't count on any reasonableness past January 20. Get some mifepristone now if you can, and hopefully nobody ends up needing it. You might also consider an IUD or implant if you don't have one already, or getting it replaced early if you do have one. Birth control probably won't be so quick to be outlawed, and hopefully won't be at all, but who the hell knows. I just wouldn't count on it remaining available indefinitely.
Graydon Armstrong
2024-11-07 06:57:50 +0000 UTCIf you think you might have to leave, you need to be putting together specific, well-researched plans now, before things get bad. That means figuring out visa pathways, employment prospects they might depend on, processing times, and probably doing that for multiple countries, because if there starts to be significant emigration from the US, you can expect other countries' policies to tighten; the US has too many people for other countries to absorb everyone who wants out. Just 10% of just the LGBT population of the US would double Canada's already-high immigration for the next 4 years. You may have more luck with internal migration to California or New York, where visas aren't an issue and there's safety in numbers. However, you'd still be subject to whatever federal law bullshit comes down the pipe.
Graydon Armstrong
2024-11-07 06:44:37 +0000 UTCProfessional oaths don't trump law.
Graydon Armstrong
2024-11-07 06:28:21 +0000 UTCIn *most* cases, though, you can only get a citizenship if your parents were citizens either born there or naturalised. Some countries may grant *visas* based on grandparents being citizens, but if they moved away as a child, supporting documentation may be difficult to obtain even if they're still alive, and may be nearly impossible if they aren't.
Graydon Armstrong
2024-11-07 06:27:44 +0000 UTCCan't imprison a sitting president, and it would probably be just as disruptive to imprison a president-elect, but I'm hoping Merchan could impose a prison term that begins January 20, 2029. Then there's no conflict with being president that might end up resolved by the sentence being declared invalid.
Graydon Armstrong
2024-11-07 06:21:28 +0000 UTCYes, that much is pretty straightforward.
Graydon Armstrong
2024-11-07 06:17:59 +0000 UTCalso as someone in law school right now…wtf do i do?? do i wait until we know what we are working with? do i just learn everything and expect to unlearn it as im going and they are destroying our constitution? will i effectively have a history degree and have to do it again when everything is over?
K
2024-11-07 04:23:05 +0000 UTCeven longer term, are there things states or individuals could do to throw sand in the gears of rising fascism through malicious compliance?
Keegan
2024-11-07 04:21:40 +0000 UTCare there any things that can be done in the lame duck period that would be difficult to undo? pardons? declassifying documents? state level indictments of co-conspirators?
Keegan
2024-11-07 04:19:00 +0000 UTCrelated, they’ve got plans for a lot of crazy shit, what should we expect to be the first things to change. and conversely are there any threats that they might actually have been bullshitting about and don’t intend to do?
Keegan
2024-11-07 04:13:45 +0000 UTCWhat should our next moves be, tactically and strategically?
Archer
2024-11-07 03:43:03 +0000 UTCOk, terrible question to even consider, but I know it is on the table. Given the supreme Court ruling that presidents have absolute immunity for official acts, can Biden or Harris perform "official acts" that result in the executive branch not being handed over to an insane, dangerous narcissist who will destroy the country? There are a lot of things that that might look like, And I'm sure if the shoe were on the other foot Trump and his advisors would be talking about this. 😬
LipstickLumberjack
2024-11-07 03:18:06 +0000 UTCGood people in Germany watched it get taken over by literal Nazis. Any lessons, any takeaways? Where's the moral line between civil political disapproval and complicity ?
Gmork
2024-11-07 03:17:32 +0000 UTC#letitburn
SlightlyAskewSince1982
2024-11-07 03:02:18 +0000 UTCI see a lot of red states passed initiatives stating "only a citizen of the US" can vote, vice "every citizen of the US". Is this a setup for denying some citizens the right? If not, why are they doing this?
We can feed everybody
2024-11-07 03:00:51 +0000 UTCThank you Lydia!
KeepingThePlatesSpinning
2024-11-07 01:52:02 +0000 UTCI think I can help with this.
Lydia Smith
2024-11-07 01:24:06 +0000 UTCWhat happens if Trump dies, or otherwise becomes incapacitated ... He's clearly a few screws short of a toolbox (30min dance?) ... if the Alzheimer's really kicks in - does Vance take over for the rest of his term?
I am a philosophical hole
2024-11-07 01:15:23 +0000 UTCasked and likely answered on the supreme court chat, but would love to hear matt/thomas' likely concurrence: any chance for an injury time hail mary sotomayor substitution?
lauren
2024-11-07 00:33:38 +0000 UTCThe Every/Only language referenda re: the right to vote in various states passed with overwhelming majorities. On a prior episode you talked about those being a door to further changes. Can you now go into more detail about which further changes we should expect to see?
Drew Vogel
2024-11-07 00:00:40 +0000 UTCThe BCRA requires presidents to spend funds appropriated by Congress. It was responding to Nixon impounding funds meant for programs he disagreed with. On the surface this seems to be a bulwark against the plans of Musk et al to take an axe to the executive agencies. I would love a future breakdown of the case law around the BCRA. Has it been effective in forcing congress's will or have presidents weakened it since Nixon?
Drew Vogel
2024-11-06 23:58:15 +0000 UTCWhat will happen to the FDA??
SonWinks
2024-11-06 23:57:50 +0000 UTC🫶🏼🫶🏼🫶🏼
Aminah
2024-11-06 23:57:02 +0000 UTC🫶🏼🫶🏼🫶🏼
Aminah
2024-11-06 23:55:16 +0000 UTCEncouraging false EC electors is working within the system. I just don't think it would be effective.
Sean
2024-11-06 23:55:02 +0000 UTCThis might be a lot to ask, but as things unfold, could you please point out every time something happens that was outlined in Project 2025. It’s beating a dead horse but I think it’s a good reminder that they told us what they were going to do
KeepingThePlatesSpinning
2024-11-06 23:51:55 +0000 UTCLove this. That kind of work can be a really positive way to channel the negativity I'm sure a lot of us are feeling.
Ian Buckley
2024-11-06 23:47:52 +0000 UTCWhat should folks in same-sex marriages or relationships know about protecting their rights? Should they contact an estate lawyer? Any helpful resources for folks concerned about losing basic rights?
Katie Herrmann
2024-11-06 23:47:42 +0000 UTCShould Biden preemptively pardon Democrats and Never-Trumpers that The Orange has said he would target? How can this best be done to avoid SCOTUS scrutiny?
Sean
2024-11-06 23:47:01 +0000 UTCCould y’all move (or at least cross post) to some site other than Xitter? OA is one of the last things that keeps me going there and I desperately want to pull that ripcord.
Jason H
2024-11-06 23:46:39 +0000 UTCTrump still needs to be sentenced for his conviction. What powers does the Judge still have there? Can he create a Constitutional Crisis in the making?
Alex Dunn
2024-11-06 23:46:29 +0000 UTCIs there any risk of us losing the Civil Rights Act of 1964?
Katie Herrmann
2024-11-06 23:45:26 +0000 UTCI recently found out that my family is eligible for German citizenship because my grandmother's family was forced out during the war. So I guess this is less a question and more of a PSA, that others who may find themselves similarly concerned should look into so-called "ancestral citizenship", which may be easier to obtain than you think.
Andrew Torres did everything wrong
2024-11-06 23:44:46 +0000 UTCMutual aid would be my advice. Marginalized people still need community no matter the outcome. Our unhoused community is still unhoused, people as still suffering after the hurricane, etc. All we have is each other and together we can make some change.
Aminah
2024-11-06 23:43:57 +0000 UTCMoreover, how do we get these better news sources in front of the people who need to see them? How do we make them care enough to absorb it?
Unlikable Internet Goblin
2024-11-06 23:43:37 +0000 UTCCan you talk about the motion the RNC filed to close the polling places that were granted extended hours due to Russian bomb threats?
Sylvie Seeker
2024-11-06 23:43:19 +0000 UTCIs there a way to make it illegal for hospitals to not treat woman whom are potentially dying from pregnancy or abortion complications? Aren't doctors violating their oaths by refusing care? Doesn't this open the door to doctors refusing to provide care for other reasons?
Shannon Klakowicz
2024-11-06 23:43:11 +0000 UTCI want to listen but I can't bring myself to
Maxwell Skipworth
2024-11-06 23:41:06 +0000 UTCIn this exchange on Mastodon https://floss.social/@jgoerzen/113436734585487762 , I commented that Biden and Garland didn't take the fascist threat as seriously as it deserved. An attorney replied, saying: "As a lawyer, sometimes our training causes analysis paralysis. Trump plows right through it. While lawyers try to figure out a strategy within the system that they are trained in, someone from outside, who commits an act that ignores that system or that exploits the weaknesses of the system, can leave lawyers not knowing what to do. That is a general statement. MG totally dropped the ball. But, I suspect there is an element of "what the hell do we do with that?" going on. I've watched pro se people totally flummox lawyers because they aren't following the "system"." Biden is a lawyer, and it struck me that he was excellent at working the system (eg, getting the IRA passed) but totally flummoxed with those that tried to work outside it (eg, dealing with the filibuster, etc). Do you think others in the legal profession are flummoxed also?
John
2024-11-06 23:40:23 +0000 UTCdo u want a dem j6? questioning the election/trying to do something to change it before inauguration is not something to even consider
K
2024-11-06 23:38:45 +0000 UTCI'm not up for anything right now. But I remember I couldn't keep up with the wild bullshit of the first Trump term & how OA was the best source of analysis for it. It changed the whole tone of the show out of necessity. So...an off topic thanks for keeping up with that. I wish you didn't have to do it again.
m1st3rk1ng
2024-11-06 23:38:18 +0000 UTCAs a Palestinian, how do you think this outcome could affect me and my family? (In the US) My father receives plenty of hate as it is and I worry about his safety. Am I being too reactionary? As an activist, I have prepared for the worst when it comes to my work. My senator has already targeted us before and this will no doubt embolden her to do more. I couldn't even get myself to go to work today. Take care of yourselves. 🫶🏼
Aminah
2024-11-06 23:37:53 +0000 UTCI'm keenly aware that my ancestors left Russia in 1874 when the getting was good. Those that stayed, and their descendents, were almost all dead within a few decades. Matt hinted at this in the emergency episode. How do we tell when it's time to stay and fight, or time to flee the country? Not that fleeing the country is easy, but I'm keenly aware that staying and fighting didn't work out too well for those opposed to dictators in Europe last century.
John
2024-11-06 23:37:46 +0000 UTCSo is the Filibuster the only thing stopping Republicans from passing whatever legislation they want? I assume it will be removed at some point, but the question is whether they wait until after the midterms to bring on the national abortion ban and repealing the ACA. All of the moderates like McCain are gone so it seems like we have no buffer from the cruelty.
YakkoWarner
2024-11-06 23:36:51 +0000 UTCWhat are the best ways to achieve meaningful change in our community and country in the coming months and years? A lot of people advise "get involved," but could we have some discussion of what some of the most productive uses of our energy going forward might be? Throwing money into a bottomless DNC fundraising pit and voting each year or two isn't cutting it. As an aside, I would love to hear what everyone is doing for their mental health in times like this. I know a lot of people are struggling. Thanks!
Ian Buckley
2024-11-06 23:34:29 +0000 UTCWhat stops me from seriously considering something like that is that we’d leave the right wing with more power and a lot of nukes.
Krys McCants
2024-11-06 23:33:07 +0000 UTCTo be clear, I live in Virginia. So I mean leave the country. I have dual citizenship in Costa Rica so it’s not impossible for me
Celeste de la Cabra
2024-11-06 23:32:50 +0000 UTCAs a trans person, should I make plans to leave? What practical concerns do you feel are likely?
Celeste de la Cabra
2024-11-06 23:31:54 +0000 UTCrealistically, how long will any of the abortion rights passed last night (my context is colorado’s amendment) protect abortions? how quickly CAN they start restricting birth control and abortions with what is currently in the courts and senate majority? with how long it takes to get healthcare already, it can be helpful to know the earliest it can happen and the reasonably expected timeframe
K
2024-11-06 23:31:29 +0000 UTC🫂🏳️🌈
Diziet Sma
2024-11-06 23:30:54 +0000 UTCLike most (every) recent election in which Democrats lost, many people are probably at least thinking about immigrating to another country, such as Canada. Could you guys talk about how realistic that is and what steps would be needed? Personally, I'm hoping to at least secure a work visa as a software developer then consider my options after living there for a year or two. I believe there is no bottom with this next administration and want to get out while it's still relatively easy to do so.
Too stuffed from the nothing burger to have a thin mint
2024-11-06 23:30:44 +0000 UTCWhat are the early indicators of anything that should set of alarm bells that something worse will happen? What can we do to ensure we take the house in the mid terms?
Michael Ardron
2024-11-06 23:30:25 +0000 UTCFor Matt: what signs or indications would you expect to see if our legal system is irreversibly corrupted? I mean even beyond the Harlan Crow ridiculousness at SCOTUS. But how would we know if the rot reaches all levels and the justice system could no longer be considered legitimate?
Krys McCants
2024-11-06 23:30:05 +0000 UTCIn addition to this (and it might not be OA's wheelhouse), reliable news sources to support. I'm personally trying to figure out how to disconnect from social media while also staying informed.
Zachary Robinson
2024-11-06 23:29:22 +0000 UTCTrump has the ultimate mandate and so should actually enact everything he said he would like tarrifs and all other destructive and crazy policies. Do you think his supporters actually expect him to do this? Can the generals talk sense to him on Ukraine?
Fiasco!
2024-11-06 23:28:34 +0000 UTCThis might be more of a deep dive, but what does this mean for DC as a city? Trump has said some wild things and the federal govt’s ability to directly interfere with the lives of DC residents is significant - and the fact that it’s a Black, Democratic city makes it even more attractive for them
Tonei Glavinic
2024-11-06 23:28:21 +0000 UTCI keep vacillating between desperation, some sickened form of acceptance, and concern for everyone affected by this, which is a lot of people. I am struggling to reconcile my doom against some part of me that thinks I'm overblowing things. Allow me to be selfish: what does the future look like for queer people? I live in Colorado where we just passed abortion rights and same sex marriage. That's great, but what's the reality of a federal undoing of those things? What's the timeline? What can I do in my city and state to protect the marginalized from what I'm disturbed to believe is coming?
Unlikable Internet Goblin
2024-11-06 23:27:44 +0000 UTCAnything that can be done before inauguration? Are we just sitting here just all collectively hoping for the best but knowing it’s all downhill?
Shaun T
2024-11-06 23:26:54 +0000 UTCExplain the legalities of sheltering immigrants from deportation, since we might have to start.
We can feed everybody
2024-11-06 23:26:16 +0000 UTCWhat nonprofit ‘resistance’ organization should we throw all of our money at? ACLU? Propublica? Taco Bell?
Jason H
2024-11-06 23:26:02 +0000 UTCI know the answer might just be "not much" but I'd love a discussion of what we can do at the local level to fight against the fire hose of bullshit that is coming
James Hamblin
2024-11-06 23:25:58 +0000 UTCSomething lighter, here's a good article for a Matt's Footnote (Font) Fetish https://www.wired.com/story/disney-world-menu-hack-wingdings/
Sent from Disneyland
2024-11-06 23:25:57 +0000 UTCCan we have a group scream?
Trimethylxanthine
2024-11-06 23:24:08 +0000 UTCIs there anything to the ‘missing votes’ I assume its wishful thinking conspiracy theories, but am curious…
Simon Crowley
2024-11-06 23:24:06 +0000 UTCDebates with right wing podcasts?
Another Minneapolitian
2024-11-06 23:24:01 +0000 UTC
